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Old 30-12-2011, 05:36 PM #1
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In the case of a childs imaginary friend you have the foreknowledge that it's made up though. Well ... much easier foreknowledge.

A better example would be my old favourite : The Space Wolves.

Prove Space Wolves don't exist i.e. destroy my dreams.
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In the case of a childs imaginary friend you have the foreknowledge that it's made up though. Well ... much easier foreknowledge.

A better example would be my old favourite : The Space Wolves.

Prove Space Wolves don't exist i.e. destroy my dreams.
I saw a space wolf once
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I don't see why the bible is really relevant?? it seems to me that either you believe that something is in control of the universe and our destiny or fate (God) or that it's all random and pointless (evolution)
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I don't see why the bible is really relevant?? it seems to me that either you believe that something is in control of the universe and our destiny or fate (God) or that it's all random and pointless (evolution)
Unfortunately, I lean more towards random and pointless. I mean, if something is in control of our destiny and fate, why do bad things happen to good people? Why are innocent children killed in accidents or get life threatening diseases? Answer: Because it's all random and pointless
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Unfortunately, I lean more towards random and pointless. I mean, if something is in control of our destiny and fate, why do bad things happen to good people? Why are innocent children killed in accidents or get life threatening diseases? Answer: Because it's all random and pointless
It seems to me that we all have a set of morals inbuilt in our heads, some of us ignore them others don't though. Why would we have that? we all know whats right and wrong. Bad things happen according to the bible because the devil is in control of the world and weak people are seduced by him

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It seems to me that we all have a set of morals inbuilt in our heads, some of us ignore them others don't though. Why would we have that? we all know whats right and wrong. Bad things happen according to the bible because the devil is in control of the world and weak people are seduced by him
But what is morally acceptable has varied so much throughout history and it still does across the world today, morality is all relative
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But what is morally acceptable has varied so much throughout history and it still does across the world today, morality is all relative
'morality is relative', is the sort of phrase that would come straight out of the mouth of the devil himself!!!
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I don't see why the bible is really relevant?? it seems to me that either you believe that something is in control of the universe and our destiny or fate (God) or that it's all random and pointless (evolution)
You are simplifying it way, way too much. What about Deism? Whereby a godhead figure kickstarted the universe but has no involvement with it? What about a belief system where someone believes in Evolution but doesn't believe it's all random? What about the multitude of spiritual belief systems one can conjure up without the need for a godhead?

And The Bible is one of the biggest 'spiritual' tracts in the world hence why people are mentioning it. It's relevant because people believe it to an extent and others are interested in knowing why or how. It's not that hard to figure out, is it? People like debating things out. There's no harm in that. Obviously you can throw stock statements like "Some people believe, and some people don't" out until the cows come home but all they are are null platitudes that don't really add anything to the discussion.

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You are simplifying it way, way too much. What about Deism? Whereby a godhead figure kickstarted the universe but has no involvement with it? What about a belief system where someone believes in Evolution but doesn't believe it's all random? What about the multitude of spiritual belief systems one can conjure up without the need for a godhead?

And The Bible is one of the biggest 'spiritual' tracts in the world hence why people are mentioning it. It's relevant because people believe it to an extent and others are interested in knowing why or how. It's not that hard to figure out, is it? People like debating things out. There's no harm in that. Obviously you can throw stock statements like "Some people believe, and some people don't" out until the cows come home but all they are are null platitudes that don't really add anything to the discussion.
maybe you're complicating it too much I don't know I don't think religion is a complicated thing really, not that I know that much about it or anything

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Science militants...


Anyway on topc, I only just heard about this.....Nice to see he had such strong belief and it made him feel comfortable during very tough situations. That is the important thing not if you believe in Science or Religion or the Tooth fairy.
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Anyway on topc, I only just heard about this.....Nice to see he had such strong belief and it made him feel comfortable during very tough situations. That is the important thing not if you believe in Science or Religion or the Tooth fairy.
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Wait, why didn't he just talk?
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It's sort of a thing that started from a bullying video that the person holds up the flashcards so that they can "talk" without crying
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is it just me or is all this arguing about stupid semantics totally MISSING THE FOOKING POINT OF THE VIDEO.

Watch it again if you don't get it. Close yur mouth and watch it again, and try to figure out what yur missing, cause yur obviously missing the point. FFS.

Try to not have an opinion for 1 moment in your life, close yur mouth long enuf to actually try to listen to what he was trying to tell you.
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^ We get it, can you just ******ing calm down for two seconds.
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R.I.P. I hope he's having a great time in that peaceful place. Inspiration.
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