Originally Posted by jnashicg

“You must be the change you wish to see in the world.” – Gandhi

Gandhi was a racist.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

Gandhi was a racist.

He might have said some racist things, but that was hardly unusual considering the time and circumstances he lived in

Originally Posted by MTVN

He might have said some racist things, but that was hardly unusual considering the time and circumstances he lived in

I accept it wasn't unusual for the times, but his hatred of black people flies in the face of the public image. Some of his quotes are genius, but quotes are the worst way of judging a persons life in my opinion.

I was just throwing it out there, as not many people will have been aware of the point that I made. If someone goes to google on the back of my comment, then that seems like a good thing.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

I accept it wasn't unusual for the times, but his hatred of black people flies in the face of the public image. Some of his quotes are genius, but quotes are the worst way of judging a persons life in my opinion.

I was just throwing it out there, as not many people will have been aware of the point that I made. If someone goes to google on the back of my comment, then that seems like a good thing.

Fair enough, I don't think he should just be idolised uncritically but I don't think he should be simply branded a racist either (not saying you were doing that) and have all of what he achieved disregarded

[mrlecturer]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

I accept it wasn't unusual for the times, but his hatred of black people flies in the face of the public image. Some of his quotes are genius, but quotes are the worst way of judging a persons life in my opinion.

I was just throwing it out there, as not many people will have been aware of the point that I made. If someone goes to google on the back of my comment, then that seems like a good thing.

Yeyyy

another Google-backed argument. Google also tells me the world will end in 2012, damnit, its the year of my graduation

Originally Posted by mrlecturer

Yeyyy

another Google-backed argument. Google also tells me the world will end in 2012, damnit, its the year of my graduation

I hope that university of yours is free, otherwise I'd ask for my money back. It's not a google-backed argument, it's saying that if people go to google (to look into it) on the back of the point I made, then that is a good thing.

There is a difference, and one which someone at University really should be able to understand.

As this is a quotes thread, how about this one for you:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

[mrlecturer]

Originally Posted by Jesus.H.Christ

I hope that university of yours is free, otherwise I'd ask for my money back. It's not a google-backed argument, it's saying that if people go to google (to look into it) on the back of the point I made, then that is a good thing.

There is a difference, and one which someone at University really should be able to understand.

As this is a quotes thread, how about this one for you:

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt"

I wish you had read something on Gandhi being a racist , before blatantly finger-pointing and labelling him into a racist. His use of the word kaafir (which he used in South Africa to describe the Black population), although not a derogatory term in Arabic, is one of the reasons why the label of racist has been thrown on him. Since you seem to be a fan of google, i'll let you search what kaafir means, in its purest form, not any connotations.

I'm hoping you know his publications on the inequalities African-Americans faced in America. I'm also hoping you know how Gandhi, and as a matter of fact, India, was close friends with W.E.B. DuBois? (Again, i'll wait for you to google that name and Jawaharlal Nehru, he too condemned the injustices in America). In fact, DuBois, himself, wrote about Gandhi! Wow, a prominent African-American historian, writer, fighter against racism, writing about the life of Gandhi, shocking -surely, one of 'em's a racist.

My point is, yes, though Gandhi's life in South Africa is clouded with accusations of racism, the internet's a vast world (google being one of its offspring), and if you had bothered to research just a wee bit more, you would've found plenty of interesting reads- that would've prevented any premature and false judgement coming from you.

I say, if you're using google, use it wisely

[Niamh.]

I have to say I'm finding all this very interesting to read, I'd never heard anything about him being racist before

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I have to say I'm finding all this very interesting to read, I'd never heard anything about him being racist before

Me neither!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Me neither!

Doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't though

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't though

Yes, but it doesn't sound like him.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Yes, but it doesn't sound like him.

You mean, it doesn't sound like what you have been told about him in the past.

[arista]

It was Another Time
way back then.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

It was Another Time
way back then.

Exactly. That's true.

[Marc]

I knew the guy, massive lad.

Never racist once in his life.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Marc

I knew the guy, massive lad.

Never racist once in his life.

Marc, I love your humour.

On topic though, I personally don't think he was racist,from what I have read and learned as to him but I couldn't say for sure 100% obviously.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Marc, I love your humour.

On topic though, I personally don't think he was racist,from what I have read and learned as to him but I couldn't say for sure 100% obviously.

he was definitely racist. that doesn't mean he was a bad person though. All the founding fathers of the US were racist, that doesn't mean they were bad though.

I'm sure everyone here has parents that have said sexist, or homophopbic or racist things, that doesn't mean they are evil people.

Being racist doesn't automatically make you a bad person.

There are plenty of really good and kind and awesome racist people in the world. you can't define someone's worth based on just one aspect.

[Niamh.]

You don't need a quote Mr Lec, I've given you your own thread for this topic

[mrlecturer]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't need a quote Mr Lec, I've given you your own thread for this topic

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't need a quote Mr Lec, I've given you your own thread for this topic

That's true! I keep forgetting!

[MTVN]

Yeah the Capitol or Mollie's Chambers are the main two chat threads, or there's also the Lounge

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yeah the Capitol or Mollie's Chambers are the main two chat threads, or there's also the Lounge

Oh thank you! I'll check them out!

[mrlecturer]

I understand your point Jesus. This saint-like promotion does no one any good. Cause it's simply not true. Like we don't hear Martin Luther King beating up White prostitutes? But it's true, it happened according to the FBI.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by mrlecturer

I understand your point Jesus. This saint-like promotion does no one any good. Cause it's simply not true. Like we don't hear Martin Luther King beating up White prostitutes? But it's true, it happened according to the FBI.

Really? I didn't know that! That's quite shocking!

[mrlecturer]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Really? I didn't know that! That's quite shocking!

haha yup, and he plagiarized while in uni