[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

She didn't grab his throat first, blatant lie.

Most of your other points are reading into every tiny detail as though ever breath is a machination of some sort.

In realty these are real people, not characters from a soap.

you just choose to dwell on the details that suit your own agenda

[Marsh.]

She touched his throat, but in retaliation. You need to watch it again.

Before he then holds her down by both arms threatening to 'nut her'.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

She touched his throat, but in retaliation. You need to watch it again.

Before he then holds her down by both arms threatening to 'nut her'.

I know something I have condemned him for 101 times. But I also condemn all her prior behaviour to this

[Kizzy]

You can condemn all you like but you can't link the behaviour to his response..... she was being annoying and he was tired/hungry/ drunk/ constipated or whatever dumb excuse you like but he was wrong to do what he did even if he was furious end of.
NOTHING would fuel a rational man into doing that, no amount of horseplay or flirting.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You can condemn all you like but you can't link the behaviour to his response..... she was being annoying and he was tired/hungry/ drunk/ constipated or whatever dumb excuse you like but he was wrong to do what he did even if he was furious end of.
NOTHING would fuel a rational man into doing that, no amount of horseplay or flirting.

what about denise welch then? why wasn't shebooted? were you just as outraged when she assaulted 2 people

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

what about denise welch then? why wasn't shebooted? were you just as outraged when she assaulted 2 people

How am I supposed to know?
I am only aware of the shots being tugged down incident so can't comment on anything else.
I was annoyed and was glad when she was warned, as hazel was.....

[Marsh.]

Yes, but her behaviour doesn't excuse his.

You're excusing him by claiming this was all part of Hazel's master plan. Despite the fact Daley was the one to instigate a relationship way back at the start.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Yes, but her behaviour doesn't excuse his.

You're excusing him by claiming this was all part of Hazel's master plan. Despite the fact Daley was the one to instigate a relationship way back at the start.

where did I say I excuse him? that's right I didnt you are lying yet again

[Indy]

Why do people go to so much effort to lie about things everyone here can queue up on video and replay a dozen times over? He grabbed her throat, forced her down to the bed, let go of her throat, pinned her arms, got in her face and told her to learn to respect her elders or he would abuse her further.

Any version that says otherwise is fiction.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

Why do people go to so much effort to lie about things everyone here can queue up on video and replay a dozen times over? He grabbed her throat, forced her down to the bed, let go of her throat, pinned her arms, got in her face and told her to learn to respect her elders or he would abuse her further.

Any version that says otherwise is fiction.

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

[Indy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

I don't like the man, but it doesn't mean he should be crucified. he wanted kip and that's why he was telling them to keep it down. she tortured him as he is mentally a lot weaker and totally out of his depth. and no this doesn't justify him putting his hands on her neck.

[Marsh.]

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

wrong again.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong again.

He didn't ask them to quiet down, he wanted Hazel inside the house. There is video evidence.

Stop with the lies.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong again.

Originally Posted by 08marsh

He didn't ask them to quiet down, he wanted Hazel inside the house. There is video evidence.

Stop with the lies.

Yeah this. He never asked them to keep it down, he wanted Hazel inside and in bed, like the controlling arsehole that he is. Hazel wasn't ready to go to bed, she was happy outside talking to Charlie and tbf they weren't making that much noise, I'm sure it's probably alot more noisy sleeping in the main bedroom. BB closed the shutters for him and turned the lights off for him but that's not what he wanted, he wanted Hazel to do what she was told and go to bed, just like he told her not to wear so much make up and to go have her shower

[Indy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

Maybe we just don't have good enough super hearing superpowers... Only Daley does and he could hear them even though us mere mortals couldn't hear a peep of them from inside the room.

[arista]

Originally Posted by fingers

Excellent liar!

Yes Fear they will Nominate her

[cheapbbfan]

She's an evil succubus and everyone warned him against her. He was too stupid to get involved with her

[Kizzy]

Daley chose to put himself in the role of aggressor.... And he was removed from the house.
He admitted on bots he overstepped the mark, imo he did much more.

[fingers]

Hazel is a congenital liar and she will find out about what the public think of her "innocent" part in this whole debacle when she gets out -and the sooner she's out the better.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

Excellent liar!

I am actually amazed that she did that. How she didn't seize upon the opportunity for sympathy and safety from noms is beyond what I thought of her. She may just be worried for once??

[Kizzy]

She is a pretty girl who flirted, she's not the first and she won't be the last. Mr knuckledragger should have kept his distance then..... Words fail me how his actions are being excused due to this.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She is a pretty girl who flirted, she's not the first and she won't be the last. Mr knuckledragger should have kept his distance then..... Words fail me how his actions are being excused due to this.

Me too.

[fingers]

She may have all kinds of sympathy on this forum, but she won't find the public so forgiving.