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CBB19 Celebrity Big Brother January 2017 [CBB 19] [All Stars and New Stars] was won by Coleen Nolan.

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Old 06-01-2017, 01:19 PM #1
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Though I am in two minds about the cake thing, I have to admit. On the one hand it seems ridiculous to refuse to bake a cake because you disagree with the message on it. On the other hand, is it really that different to churches being able to refuse to perform gay marriage ceremonies because of their personal beliefs? Not totally sure where I stand on it, though oddly enough I have strong feelings about the B&B that turned away gay couples. And a shop is not much different to a B&B

The rest of her comments are disgusting though. I wonder if BB will throw her under the bus the way they did with that Winston guy...doubt it somehow.
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Oh dear...

Though I am in two minds about the cake thing, I have to admit. On the one hand it seems ridiculous to refuse to bake a cake because you disagree with the message on it. On the other hand, is it really that different to churches being able to refuse to perform gay marriage ceremonies because of their personal beliefs? Not totally sure where I stand on it, though oddly enough I have strong feelings about the B&B that turned away gay couples. And a shop is not much different to a B&B

The rest of her comments are disgusting though. I wonder if BB will throw her under the bus the way they did with that Winston guy...doubt it somehow.
The B&B and the cake shop are businesses for profit. Businesses aren't allowed to discriminate. They would contravene equality legislation by doing so.
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colleen made a snide homophobic comment about beds already on day one
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I'm in two minds over her comments. I've always felt the "gay couples shouldn't adopt" thing is sometimes more of a sexist view than a homophobic one (depending on why someone thinks it). My mum for example holds that view but she's not homophobic in the slightest (she's bisexual herself and has always been accepting/proud of me being gay), the reason she thinks like that though is because she has old fashioned views of male and female roles when it comes to raising children and she'd feel the same about the idea of my sister being a single parent and raising a child without a dad as she would about me and a partner raising a child without a mother, so sexuality isn't actually the factor in her holding that view... she's kind of sexist basically but not homophobic. So it depends really why Coleen thinks like that, if it's because she doesn't like gay people and/or thinks that their sexuality would be a bad influence on children or they'd be bad parents 'because' of their sexuality then yeah she's homophobic, but I don't know how she meant it. And the ISIS cake thing just comes across as stupid more than anything else, if she thinks being gay is comparable/as bad as to belonging to a terrorist organisation then she's pretty homophobic, but it looks to me more like she just put her point across very badly.
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