[Ammi]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I think threads on here are assuming BB gave her a warning ,but we didn't actually hear him give her 1. But I guess it's insinuating it is...as he said " BB doesn't tolerate" and blah blah . Which is usually before s punishment of some kind.

…language/terminology is crazy in how a few letters can change so much for someone…if Stop the Gloating/Dont Gloat/giving gloats etc had been said, it would be nothing…it would be gone…but Stop the gloats and it all changes because of the rearrangement of it all/…of those few words …

[Mystic Mock]

And 10. Dean throwing items at Martha because he was angry. No warning.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

And 10. Dean throwing items at Martha because he was angry. No warning.

Yeah tbh this surprised me,I thought BB would class it as aggressive behaviour. But Dean was a wet drip anyway,I don't even think BB took him seriously.

But yeah I read all the list of stuff ,and I agree . Also didn't Ali refer to the other group as "animals" or something?. I remember a few weeks ago ...it being talked about on here .

[Ammi]

…I don’t think that it was a warning as such…more of an explaining and that…(…I’m presuming…)…was prompted and came about because a housemate(s) had expressed that they didn’t feel comfortable with it/it didn’t sit right with them…if BB had done nothing, it could have escalated into another beast of negative stuff …so in calling Sarah in and explaining…it was kind of dealt with so it could be moved in from…I guess that I’m just not a believer in whataboutery type stuff or that one size fits all, type thing…whatever similarities can be attached, the differences are also important to note …(…for me…)…and I guess the main one here is that (we assume…)…no housemate expressed concerns/discomfort etc at any other actions/words…

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah tbh this surprised me,I thought BB would class it as aggressive behaviour. But Dean was a wet drip anyway,I don't even think BB took him seriously.

But yeah I read all the list of stuff ,and I agree . Also didn't Ali refer to the other group as "animals" or something?. I remember a few weeks ago ...it being talked about on here .

Ali called three of them "Marsupials."

I wanna say they were Hanah, Khaled, and Segun.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Ali called three of them "Marsupials."

I wanna say they were Hanah, Khaled, and Segun.

Because they're "in each other's pockets", so it makes sense.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because they're "in each other's pockets", so it makes sense.

Personally I agree with your interpretation of what Ali meant.

But BB never had it clarified about what she meant as far as I'm aware.

I'm just calling for consistency in the Namby Pamby version of Big Brother UK.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because they're "in each other's pockets", so it makes sense.

I mean that is one interpretation, a very kind and charitable one that some extended to Ali, the poster child of woke BB this season.

Another is that she called 3 PoC in the house actual animals. In this you would look at the connection between marsupials and aborigines as well. It could be seen as having racial layers if you wanted it to.

Is the second a reach? Yes, but so is the claimed racism in Sarah's words. It just depends on how much charity is extended to the HM saying it... Ali has the wokies on side so she gets a pass, Sarah voted UKIP a decade ago at the age of 18 so she gets the hammer (at 20 Lily is considered a 'child' by most).

Sarah made a joke about border control when they were keeping the previously gloating mixed race vampire team away from their 'border'...

All else aside, controlling your borders as a country is not racist.

I also thought the wordplay was witty and funny.

[BBXX]

People have interpreted Ali to be a misandrist and nothing more, simply because she’s mentioned toxic masculinity which is a thing that exists. Ali shouldn’t be punished for criticising a behaviour trait that negatively impacts society and it’s silly to compare it to the utilisation of a government slogan used by a right-wing political party to campaign against migrants.

Most other examples above are levelled personally at someone specific. Martha’s clothing isn’t a minority group who have been victims of oppression.

To be honest the only other comments this season I have thought was close to the bone where several made by Marcello around women and when Hanah said “It’s giving famine”. I thought that was pretty inappropriate and out of touch.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by BBXX

People have interpreted Ali to be a misandrist and nothing more, simply because she’s mentioned toxic masculinity which is a thing that exists. Ali shouldn’t be punished for criticising a behaviour trait that negatively impacts society and it’s silly to compare it to the utilisation of a government slogan used by a right-wing political party to campaign against migrants.

Most other examples above are levelled personally at someone specific. Martha’s clothing isn’t a minority group who have been victims of oppression.

To be honest the only other comments this season I have thought was close to the bone where several made by Marcello around women and when Hanah said “It’s giving famine”. I thought that was pretty inappropriate and out of touch.

My point being that we're headed down a road where any "offensive" behaviour deemed by the public or the Housemates will equal BB giving the Housemate a telling off.

I mean BB did do that last night, they saw that three Housemates and a chunk of the public were going to be offended by the joke, and gave her a talking to/unofficial warning.

But other controversial moments in this series haven't been given the same treatment, that is wrong and it is bias against Sarah imo.

And personally I don't see why Hanah should be getting a warning over "it's giving famine" she isn't breaking any rules by saying this.

[Beso]

Kahleds fake prayer when he was trying to get into the basement should have been given a warning as that will have offended many muslims watching.