[Macie Lightfoot]

I think the whole idea of a bitter jury is kinda stupid because ultimately you're always going to vote for someone you like, or at least respect, to get half a million dollars. Like, if you handpicked the jury and they're bitter at you, that's more indicative if your gameplay than their feelings.

And I don't even know how one can assess gameplay on a season like OTT bc there isn't even a discernible game to be played with America interfering like every third day. I'm sure Morgan fans can spin a good case as to how she played a better game and the Jason fans can as well. ****, even HypoKryssie spun a good case for herself in her final speech.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Morgan played better than Jason

part of the format is american voting so acting VILE is a bad game move,

She really didn't, she was a massive who and I could make a case for almost all of the F9 (and certainly the F5) to win over her. There's a lot of luck involved in Big Brother and she's one of the biggest recipients of it in recent history.

Of course it is, I'm not denying that - my point is that those who have in the past derided 'bitter' juries for their favourites losing/jurors voting emotionally (even so recent as three months earlier in BB18!) - were then guilty of doing exactly the same thing. People can pretend that Morgan won by her own volition all they like but the reality is it's 80% her opponent who won her the game through his own behaviour. Great/kudos/you take what you can get/slay/you win the $250k/whatever, but my point still stands. The hyprocisy from these same people who lambasted bitter/emotional jurors was real.

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

I think the whole idea of a bitter jury is kinda stupid because ultimately you're always going to vote for someone you like, or at least respect, to get half a million dollars. Like, if you handpicked the jury and they're bitter at you, that's more indicative if your gameplay than their feelings.

I agree with all of this but that's basically my point, people who would usually blame the jury for their favourite's loss and deride a juror for voting personally and not on who played the best, were then guilty of doing the exact same thing. Of course it's Jason's fault he didn't endear himself to America, but to spend your life saying 'jurors should vote on game' and then not is...well...just complete hypocrisy? And I vividly remember in the week leading up to the finale many people across many different sites saying something along the lines of 'Jason may have played the best but I can't vote for him' or 'I don't think Morgan really turned up until now but Jason can't win so', and all that's just been airbrushed out of history because she ended up winning. Like, these people needed to practice what they preach or admit they talked ****e.

[Headie]

To this day I still don't really know whether I was team LNJ or team Ballsmashers. I liked some from both sides and disliked some from both sides tbh. Danielle was probably my overall favourite, and I was gutted to lose Neeley over someone like Scott, but as a whole Danielle/Shane/Neeley/Morgan/Shelby were probably my faves? Morgan was FAR better than her sister as well

[EspeonBB]

They really need Shelby and Alex back for a regular season (I'd throw Danielle in there too even though I wasn't a huge fan)

[Headie]

Originally Posted by EspeonBB

They really need Shelby and Alex back for a regular season (I'd throw Danielle in there too even though I wasn't a huge fan)

The edit really favoured Alex but I remember hating her on the feeds, icr why but she was hella annoying to me

Alex and Danielle were the HBIC's of their alliances though

[EspeonBB]

Originally Posted by Hayden

The edit really favoured Alex but I remember hating her on the feeds, icr why but she was hella annoying to me

Alex and Danielle were the HBIC's of their alliances though

I like Alex but she was a bit of gamebot so I can see why she would grate on the feeds, plus as you said it was great to actually have HBICs rather than the terrible female cast full of followers on BB19

[Macie Lightfoot]

I'm not even disagreeing with you really but in the same regard half of Jason's votes were from alumni who didn't even properly watch or even follow OTT and people who supported his Bitchy Gay persona rather than anything to do with gameplay so it goes both ways.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Alex works a lot better for me once I realize that she'll forever be jealous of her Dumb Recruit Bikini Girl Sister for actually winning a season of Big Brother