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patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jessica.

If they were good parents their kids would have been in bed when X Factor was on.

At 7.30pm on a Saturday night? Nine year olds? I don't even have to ask if you're a parent yourself.

Pathetic.

Next.

Miss Ivy Balls · 15-12-2010, 10:26 AM

I was about to respect your opinion, but you seem to have a different attitude if it is men doing it or Alexander Burke because in your words she is a 'product'.

Kind of flings the fish out the window, if you ask me.

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Ivy Balls

I was about to respect your opinion, but you seem to have a different attitude if it is men doing it or Alexander Burke because in your words she is a 'product'.

Kind of flings the fish out the window, if you ask me.

I said she's a lovely girl, didn't I? Her performance is a product and, I'd imagine, her video differs not much at all from the performances we're discussing. I'd object to it as much as to Christina and Rihanna's performance. Because they are all products objectified by male music industry power brokers. The product is the victim. It's not a derogatory term, more an observtion. I don't want to watch any of it. It makes me feel ill, but, as I've repatedly said, I'm a mother and this is the entertainment of my children's choice. So, rather than just accepting that this is how it is, I choose to voice my disapproval.

Miss Ivy Balls · 15-12-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by patsylimerick

I said she's a lovely girl, didn't I? Her performance is a product and, I'd imagine, her video differs not much at all from the performances we're discussing. I'd object to it as much as to Christina and Rihanna's performance. Because they are all products objectified by male music industry power brokers. The product is the victim. It's not a derogatory term, more an observtion. I don't want to watch any of it. It makes me feel ill, but, as I've repatedly said, I'm a mother and this is the entertainment of my children's choice. So, rather than just accepting that this is how it is, I choose to voice my disapproval.

OK, but I get the impression it is OK if it was males to be doing it or Alexander because she's a 'nice girl'?

patsylimerick · 15-12-2010, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Ivy Balls

OK, but I get the impression it is OK if it was males to be doing it or Alexander because she's a 'nice girl'?

No, no, no. Crossed wires, I think. I hate that Alexandra's doing it, like I hate that they are all doing it. It's never a judgement on them as women, it's a judgement on the power brokers in the industry they work within. And I've clearly stated my view that it is COMPLETELY different to sexually objectify men; because while men do get raped and domestically abused, the OVERWHELMING physical threat comes from men and is aimed at women. This objectification normalises perceptions of women as sexual playthings. It's extremely, extremely dangerous. In my opinion, of course.

Niamh. · 15-12-2010, 11:02 AM

It was a bit much for a family show tbh, I didn't have the urge to ring in and complain cos I realise that music videos etc are all like this but I thought it was a bit too racy (especially Christinas) for a show that's watched by a lot of young kids.

Pato · 15-12-2010, 11:10 AM

I am shocked :-O what sick bastard would complain over something like that ?

Lee. · 15-12-2010, 02:07 PM

Remeber that advert where Duffy cycled through a supermarket, singing (and souding astonishingly like Orville)? I think it was for Coca Cola?

Ofcom received complaints about that becasue she wasn't wearing the correct safety equipment! .. Nuff said

Having said that I do think kids see too much suggestiveness and crudity on television.. My daughter LOVES Lady GaGa and I've caught her a couple of times watching her videos which in my opinion are just too raunchy for a 6 year old! FFS I see some 11/12 years old dressed like miniature ho's!

I think kids should be kept as young and as innocent as possible.

Tom4784 · 15-12-2010, 02:12 PM

I still don't get the fuss really, we've seen burlesque acts before on BGT and worse but there's never been that many complaints and all Rihanna did as strut around a bit. There's more sexuality in a shampoo advert then those performances really.

InOne · 15-12-2010, 02:15 PM

Shouldn't all these mothers complaining be knitting or something?

Niamh. · 15-12-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

Shouldn't all these mothers complaining be knitting or something?

I'm not making a big deal about it really, I just thought Christinas was a bit much, my 6 year old covered his eyes when she was on and even Gav thought it was a bit too much. It doesn't bother me personally but you kind of cringe inside a bit when your young kids are sitting there watching it!

InOne · 15-12-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells

I'm not making a big deal about it really, I just thought Christinas was a bit much, my 6 year old covered his eyes when she was on and even Gav thought it was a bit too much. It doesn't bother me personally but you kind of cringe inside a bit when your young kids are sitting there watching it!

It's a family show but it's not exactly a kids show. This is what they do.

Niamh. · 15-12-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrooge

It's a family show but it's not exactly a kids show. This is what they do.

family would include kids though, kids always watch that show, I mean it started at 7:30

InOne · 15-12-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NingleBells

family would include kids though, kids always watch that show, I mean it started at 7:30

Yeah but vids are on that are more raunchy than on music channels at 7:30am which kids always watch.

Stephanie · 15-12-2010, 06:50 PM

meh, i didn't even think xtina's performance was that bad. don't get why some people complain over things.

Tom · 15-12-2010, 07:42 PM

I hope Rihanna pulls a dildo out on stage next year

Legend killer · 15-12-2010, 07:52 PM

100th post on this thread

Tom · 15-12-2010, 07:57 PM

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100th post on this thread

#101, I got the 100th bottom of last page

Legend killer · 15-12-2010, 08:01 PM

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#101, I got the 100th bottom of last page

MusicXian · 16-12-2010, 10:46 AM

I hope none of you complained because those who do are just losers really. Its only a gameshow, a music gameshow at that.

patsylimerick · 16-12-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MusicXian

I hope none of you complained because those who do are just losers really. Its only a gameshow, a music gameshow at that.

I didn't complain, no. But the more of this kind of post I read the more I wish I had. You're just a loser really is neither constructive nor informative. It doesn't actually say anything. As Christmas Cake says, it's not a soft porn show, it's supposed to be a 'family' entertainment show. To call it musical is stretching it a bit, at times. I wonder a) are you a parent? b) did you actually read through the whole thread before you posted?