[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

why not?

Well for one thing, and quite importantly, he was in the toilet and was entitled to some privacy. For another its not specially bright to be alone in a confined space with someone so drunk they are throwing up.

[coffee]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Well for one thing, and quite importantly, he was in the toilet and was entitled to some privacy. For another its not specially bright to be alone in a confined space with someone so drunk they are throwing up.

LOL!
Just because you are drunk does not entitle you to be a rapey pervert.
Just because you are alone in a room with someone does not entitle you to be a rapey pervert.
Simple.

Did he ask her to leave? No, he didn't. He obviously was enjoying her there since he tried to take her clothes off.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Sickened by the reactions that Chloe was too blame - says a lot about the posters though.

Im sickened by the claims that Jeremy is a Perv and would of Raped her

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

Sickened by the reactions that Chloe was too blame - says a lot about the posters though.

Who has said it's Chloes fault?

[Kizzy]

Ken makes my flesh crawl, I hope he goes soon.
I thought the way jeremy was treated afterwards a bit OTT, I'm gad he's gone though he wasn't mentally capable from what I saw.

[poppsywoppsy]

I also challenge the black and white connotations. When inappropriate comments means " he is a pervert" and a drunken fumble or pass means "rapist"

How I look at it is, we should behave and dress appropriately when in company. Do and dress how you will when in your own space and choice of company.

When I mention an elbow or knee used to stop any unwanted attention, it was then mentioned as "assault" which in black and white terms it could but there are many different shades of grey intention or actions between.

BB are obviously walking the black and white line because of previous complaints and criticisms from authorities, so it is understandable they react this way.

If every drunken fumble was viewed as rape, our prisons would be full to overflowing, an immediate verbal reaction was usually enough to repel these fools but I felt with all the lechers in the soft porn industry Chloe works in, should have prepared her for these approaches and given her the ammunition (verbally) to render them impotent.

[coffee]

Honestly, I can't believe that there are women on here who think this is Chloes fault.
I cried when it happened, it actually effected me a lot because I am ****ing sick that things like this still happen!
Drunk or not. If you haven't been invited to touch a woman. Her hair, her clothes, then don't! Don't even lean in and sniff a woman without invitation because it's all creepy AF!

Members on here who say Chloe is at fault then I feel sorry for you. You have obviously been brought up very badly.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by coffee

Honestly, I can't believe that there are women on here who think this is Chloes fault.
I cried when it happened, it actually effected me a lot because I am ****ing sick that things like this still happen!
Drunk or not. If you haven't been invited to touch a woman. Her hair, her clothes, then don't! Don't even lean in and sniff a woman without invitation because it's all creepy AF!

Members on here who say Chloe is at fault then I feel sorry for you. You have obviously been brought up very badly.

[Niamh.]

Well said coffee

[WyldeFyre]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well said coffee

Agree entirely

[puzzled]

Of course what happened wasn't Chloe's fault. It's certainly possible that his grabbing her robe scared the bejeezus out of her, because she didn't know he'd stop. So I can see her leaving the bog in tears, but good grief, the endless caterwauling and heaving and going from room to room was really too much. Still, it's a reality show, and there's nothing wrong with making hay while the sun shines. As for Jeremy, it was a really stupid drunken blunder, but he's not the devil incarnate. The real villain of the piece, IMO, was Perez, trying to grab the spotlight and act the victim, carrying on as though HE'd been wronged. Disgusting. Jeremy deserved to go, though.

[coffee]

Originally Posted by puzzled

Of course what happened wasn't Chloe's fault. It's certainly possible that his grabbing her robe scared the bejeezus out of her, because she didn't know he'd stop. So I can see her leaving the bog in tears, but good grief, the endless caterwauling and heaving and going from room to room was really too much. Still, it's a reality show, and there's nothing wrong with making hay while the sun shines. As for Jeremy, it was a really stupid drunken blunder, but he's not the devil incarnate. The real villain of the piece, IMO, was Perez, trying to grab the spotlight and act the victim, carrying on as though HE'd been wronged. Disgusting. Jeremy deserved to go, though.

Honestly, no.
Perez isn't worse than Jeremy. He is annoying AF and a huge attention seeker but it wasn't him who opened a womans robe revealing her breast.

[puzzled]

Jeremy was legless, Chloe was shocked, Perez was calculating. Yes, Perez, villain.

[wendywillow]

I don't see anyone saying she was to blame but she shouldnt have been in the toilet with a drunk and bb probably should be rationing the alcohol.

careful what you wish for. bbus barely gives them a half a glass of beer and its boring as sin in there. it was a a sloppy pass, a mistake, he paid for it

[Macie Lightfoot]

k.

[Kizzy]

Don't worry riona I saw it as a drunken pass, it was misguided but nothing to be labelled rapey for. Having this opinion is nothing to be labelled misogynistic for either imo.