[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Joseph the Carpenter

you have no idea what type of father he is

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

and you think a good father teaches his children that gay people are in cahoots with the devil and that a womans place is either in the kitchen or on their back?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Of course I have an idea - from everything I have seen, read and heard over the years from him, his wife, his family and friends, his promoter, and even some of his opponents.

Most people want more for their daughters than to be a glorified skivvy.

[Northern Monkey]

Roma Gypsies are the worst.They'll try and sell you some crap or offer you a flower while their kids are pick pocketing you.I've seen it happen.Travel companies warn you about them when you travel into parts of Europe.

[smudgie]

Our local Gypsy spokesman is gay, Oooops, ex spokesman as he is now serving sentence for fraud.
He had a big gay gypsy wedding as well so not all are against being gay.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by NanaChristmas

Our local Gypsy spokesman

Is this a thing??

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Toy Santa

Is this a thing??

Hell yeah.
If there is ever any trouble then he send to pop up on the local news.
There is a legal gypsy camp not too far away, never hear about them normally until some trouble flares up.

[arista]

[letmein]

Originally Posted by arista

Britain = USSR

[DemolitionRed]

The thing about some gypsies is, they think of themselves strict Catholics and just like many Christians throughout Europe and indeed the world, they follow the bible code that states a woman's use is to produce male offspring and cater to the men in their lives.

We don't have to go back more than a seventy or so years in this country to see how women were expected to accept their lot and we can still see this in the poorer or more rural parts of Europe, especially Eastern Europe where the older women still cover their hair and still consider their husband to be the boss.

If gypsies lived like Quakers, we would totally accept their different ways and think them quaint but a lot don't; the gypsies society we hate are the ones who live in no go areas, even for the police. Crime is rife, fighting is an expected part of growing up for the men folk and the single women, at least on that programme seemed to dress and dance provocatively, even though they are virgins. All of this gives out confusing messages to us none gypsies. How can they be strict Catholics if they have such little regard for law and order?.

The answer is, many gypsies have held onto parts of their religion that suits them and disregarded other parts of it that don't. What we see as female repression, they see as the will of God, just like Muslim women. Its not about tradition, its about religion, at least for them.

[letmein]

He's a boxer. lol. How many blows to the head has he taken?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by letmein

He's a boxer. lol. How many blows to the head has he taken?

I actually believe that the more offensive and ridiculous of Fury's extreme views were ingrained in him long before he took up boxing LetMeIn.

[Crimson Dynamo]

to be fair to Fury his views are the exact same as every Iman and every Catholic Priest in the UK

[the truth]

this fury claims to be born again, but Jesus NEVER condemned homosexuality....One of the few shall we say ambiguous speeches included..“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Most theologists interpret this as Jesus accepting some men are born different

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by the truth

this fury claims to be born again, but Jesus NEVER condemned homosexuality....One of the few shall we say ambiguous speeches included..“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Most theologists interpret this as Jesus accepting some men are born different

er no

Jesus is saying that celibacy may well be an option for some of his followers.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

this fury claims to be born again, but Jesus NEVER condemned homosexuality....One of the few shall we say ambiguous speeches included..“Not everyone can accept this teaching, but only those to whom it is given. For there are eunuchs who have been so from birth, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this who can.” (Matthew 19:11-12)

Most theologists interpret this as Jesus accepting some men are born different

There are a few theologians who actually think the J-man dabbled a bit himself. Tromboning, most likely.

[Crimson Dynamo]

maybe Fury is using the slightly less ambiguous passage from Leviticus?

"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."


I would wager he is channelling the OT

[Josy]

Closed for cleaning. I may or may not reopen but when I do get round to cleaning this there will be infractions and bans being handed out. We have given enough warnings in this section lately.

[Ammi]

..in thinking about this more actually I think that it would be wrong to remove him because of his culture and values...so many times there have been threads etc about prejudice shown to the travelling community, which there is...so to remove him because he holds beliefs that many travellers do would be undoubtedly prejudiced and wrong....

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..in thinking about this more actually I think that it would be wrong to remove him because of his culture and values...so many times there have been threads etc about prejudice shown to the travelling community, which there is...so to remove him because he holds beliefs that many travellers do would be undoubtedly prejudiced and wrong....

[Cherie]

Tyson has said that he doesn't hate anyone as that would be against his Christian beliefs and his wife has confirmed that some of the stuff he says makes her cringe so storm in a teacup over for now.