[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Bear has lasted even longer than I thought he would. So he has done very well. Hope he survives tonight.

lol of course he's going to survive the eviction, and when he's crowned the winner next week it will be the result that bb has been pushing for all season.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...well plus he's 'cute' as well, you know Mitch.....

He's about as cute as Bobby Davro's red speedos

[bots]

i don't think its a case of them needing to do anything to get evicted and the production couldn't care less. The only interest is in voting revenue and if other housemates get more votes, money talks. When bear is up against housemates with a large fanbase outwith the show, thats when the his popularity can truly be measured. Tonight with Sam and Ricky untested in the mix, its going to be interesting.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

If that's your opinion of people who just value basic decency, that's really quite sad

I'm not sad at all....I'm just rational and have a very clear understanding of the difference between real life and television....
I don't know what type of people viewers are expecting inside a realty TV show like Big Brother...but from where I'm standing there's Renee who was married to The Mafia, Katie who's granny takes it up the arse , Ricky who took drugs on a live web cam, Renee who spits in people's food and has gone on record as saying Hitler was a brilliant man, Chloe who swapped her baby for fame and fortune, Sam who trashed her own career after getting totally pissed on tele, Grant who dumped his girlfriend just before he entered the house, Bear who dumped his girlfriend just after he entered the house, Marnie who exposed her Tits to another housemate and Biggins who thinks Bisexuals should be hated for the spread of AIDS.

So before you judge me, look at your own basic values pal...

You go to your church and I'll go to mine.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I'm just going to re-post Queen Macie's words though......because it's all part of his redemption story and very much still in keeping with The Bear Show, which has been created and the star of their show isn't going anywhere before the final and probably the win....

Ammi

but really though, this card gets pulled ALL THE DAMN TIME where fans of the probable favorite come up with conspiracy theories about how production is against said HM so when they win in a landslide they can look back and pretend said HM actually had to overcome stuff and this deserved his win. Like, we went through this with Aaron and with Jim Davidson at the exact same times in their respective series. It's old now.

[cassieparis]

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

[Samm]

You said this about Jason..

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

allot of truth in that.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Brilliant Post and totally logical

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by cassieparis

I don't get why some watchers believe the Producers care who wins or loses. They care about rivals to the odds on favourites.
This is because such people increase the vote. It's a business. It isn't personal!! (although it may feel like it)

The majority of managers in any business aren't more concerned or involved in the workers' personalities but the quality of product that they produce, first and foremost. They will indulge unbearable personalities, if they produce results. Even if they alienate less successful employees.

The Producers will manipulate interactions to create rivalry to the favourites. Sometimes that means manipulating things to keep controversial people in. Like Bear. IMO.

Never a truer word spoken

[Kazanne]

BB aren't doing anything,Bear has done it,it's his game,looks like he may have played it wrong,Marco got slated for this why is it different for Bear?

[Kazanne]

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

This sounds like excuses to save face incase he gets evicted,lol,Oh it's BBs fault not Bears

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's obvious they want him out. Everyone got family, except him. Awful edit on the show and on Bots. I guess they think he has served his purpose and have no need for him now.

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

But they have to have done something bad to be able to get a bad edit .... while the producers pick what to show, if he wasn't a dick in the first place, he couldnt get a bad edit

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Or maybe, more likely, people have just finally taken their rose specs off and realised that he's the worst.

No, not from one day to another.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

His dad or his brother could have gone in.

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he's young and in many ways still immature. But I'm sure he will mature with age. I was the same at his age: couldn't hold down a relationship

He's 26 ffs lol, not 17!

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

No, not from one day to another.

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

but again, it was bear and bear alone that left himself open to it by his own actions

I bet they wouldn't put this woman that Lewis has on the outside. They can't have their precious Lewnie looking bad.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Why not? you go off people at the drop of a hat and start liking them again the next day, why is it so hard to believe that people just realise what a nasty piece of work he is now?

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

[crazycolaist]

Well you cant call any victim or fix when you generally have been a dickhead the whole 3 weeks. Just sayin.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Because this series is so manipulated it's almost scripted.

And you come to this conclusion right now, just because your precious Bear was shown up to be the twat that he is?

[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

No, what they've done is give him a reality check and a taste of his own medicine, he's played his game by hurting people and causing upset, but he always dealt with it like there were no victims, well there was a very big victim of his game and he was confronted by her last night and he he showed himself to not have any conscious or heart whatsoever.

To have his 'ex'-girlfriend in front of him, crying her eyes out and spilling her guts about how bad he had hurt and humiliated her, to only smirk and shrug at her showed him to be the scumbag I thought he was all along, even after the event, he went on to slag her off, like how dare she come on here and try to mug me off?! he proved tonight that he isn't a good person, cheats are disgusting in general, but to be so heartless and nonchalant about it, like it was inevitable and that she should have expected it and she should should be grateful that it was now rather than later, just goes to show how much of a nasty piece of work that 'man' (I use that word very loosely in his case) really is, the only person he cares about is himself and that's how it will always be.

I'm under no illusion that he'll go tonight, he'll still probably make the final and win, but with the likes of Stephanie and Scotty being the top 2 of the January series, I can't say I'll be that surprised, people seem to love cheaters these days for some reason.

Fantastic post