[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Zizu

To be fair I don’t care for statues anyways.

I think it’s setting a bad example to our youth showing that they can just go and basically destroy anything and get away Scott Free


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I would politely say you don't really understand them then.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I would politely say you don't really understand them then.

The large majority of our young people are great but there are some who simply don’t respect authority/ people / or property.

They’re the ones I’m concerned about ..


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[Christmas Dynasnow]

Plenty "racism" in The Office if u recall

Let's throw Gervais into the harbour the fat white supremacist pig

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Plenty "racism" in The Office if u recall

Let's throw Gervais into the harbour the fat white supremacist pig

Did... did you watch the office? Have you heard Ricky Gervais talk about the office? You know what it's about, right, and are just being deliberately obtuse?

In The Office - the entire POINT of The Office - is that Brent isn't telling jokes that are funny ... Brent is the joke. And even then it's not intended that he's a joke to be laughed at - he's a joke to be pitied, because he does these things to try to impress people and make people like him... he tries to be "a friendly funny guy" because he's sad and lonely. But people don't think he's funny. His jokes are completely misjudged and fall flat. They think he's awkward and sexist/racist/whatever. That's literally the whole show.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Did... did you watch the office? Have you heard Ricky Gervais talk about the office? You know what it's about, right, and are just being deliberately obtuse?

In The Office - the entire POINT of The Office - is that Brent isn't telling jokes that are funny ... Brent is the joke. And even then it's not intended that he's a joke to be laughed at - he's a joke to be pitied, because he does these things to try to impress people and make people like him... he tries to be "a friendly funny guy" because he's sad and lonely. But people don't think he's funny. His jokes are completely misjudged and fall flat. They think he's awkward and sexist/racist/whatever. That's literally the whole show.

Alf Garnet was also the joke. But people didn't get that and still don't.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Alf Garnet was also the joke. But people didn't get that and still don't.

It's like that part in Fawlty Towers that is sometimes trimmed out.

The Major was (sort of) discussing the difference between N-words and "w*gs" (I've only ever head that word on Fawlty Towers, not counting Gollywog dolls,so I guess it's outdated?) and even the bigoted Basil was trying to change the subject to shut him up :laugh

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's like that part in Fawlty Towers that is sometimes trimmed out.

The Major was (sort of) discussing the difference between N-words and "w*gs" (I've only ever head that word on Fawlty Towers, not counting Gollywog dolls,so I guess it's outdated?) and even the bigoted Basil was trying to change the subject to shut him up :laugh

Indeed, Fawlty Towers was one of the pioneers of the "genre", so to speak. You're not supposed to agree with Basil Fawlty. You're not supposed to agree with his treatment of Manuel. Basil is the joke. That's why Sybil and (especially) Polly exist - to highlight how absurd Basil Fawlty is. It was a show quite ahead of it's time in many ways. It could easily be described as feminist .

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Did... did you watch the office? Have you heard Ricky Gervais talk about the office? You know what it's about, right, and are just being deliberately obtuse?

In The Office - the entire POINT of The Office - is that Brent isn't telling jokes that are funny ... Brent is the joke. And even then it's not intended that he's a joke to be laughed at - he's a joke to be pitied, because he does these things to try to impress people and make people like him... he tries to be "a friendly funny guy" because he's sad and lonely. But people don't think he's funny. His jokes are completely misjudged and fall flat. They think he's awkward and sexist/racist/whatever. That's literally the whole show.

To be fair, the part when the black guy didn't care about Brent's "joke" and it turned out the complaint came from a stuckup white woman was somewhat prophetic From what I've seen at least it's usually middle-class white folks who jump on the banned-wagon for things they think are offensive, while the "targets" just ignore it

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

To be fair, the part when the black guy didn't care about Brent's "joke" and it turned out the complaint came from a stuckup white woman was somewhat prophetic From what I've seen at least it's usually middle-class white folks who jump on the banned-wagon for things they think are offensive, while the "targets" just ignore it

Because the targets have gotten used to it and don't have the level of privilege required to feel like they can openly and loudly complain about it whilst remaining firmly "in the right". White people complain louder because they feel like their complaints will be taken seriously. One of the great ironies of the nuance of privilege.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because the targets have gotten used to it and don't have the level of privilege required to feel like they can openly and loudly complain about it whilst remaining firmly "in the right". White people complain louder because they feel like their complaints will be taken seriously. One of the great ironies of the nuance of privilege.

Then white people should be insulted more Everyone is a fair target, leave the old things up and make new things!

[bots]

the reason they are being taken off the platforms is that they are not watched by many people anyway, and it's more hassle to keep them now as all they were was filler content

[armand.kay]

i feel like people don't get the difference between a show poking fun at bigots and racists and a show literally having the cast in black face....

[madman411]

It's getting out of hand now. Little Britain was made to be a shocker. I remember watching it and couldn't believe some of the acts they did - but they were funny (for the most part). Same with Bo Selecta.

This "preventative maintenance" of their program libraries is a waste of time. Things are so widely available on the internet now, so whether or not Channel 4 or BBC pull programming from their platforms fortunately it's still easily obtainable.

The way things are going I'm concerned things are going to be so PC and overly censored that free speech will no longer exist how we once knew it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by madman411

Little Britain was made to be a shocker.

How is this a defence?

They INTENDED it to be offensive? Really helps it now.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by madman411

The way things are going I'm concerned things are going to be so PC and overly censored that free speech will no longer exist how we once knew it.

This is NOT censorship ffs. It's a production company deciding what they do and do not want to distribute, which is THEIR freedom. The material is NOT banned.

[Good King Glennceslas]

If its so widely available on the web then whats the problem for a streaming company to remove it from their service?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

If its so widely available on the web then whats the problem for a streaming company to remove it from their service?

Shh, don't apply logic to the 'PC gone mad!' brigade.

[Parmy]

I think the question you all need to ask yourselves is.."can intentional blackfacing be seen as funny"

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I think the question you all need to ask yourselves is.."can intentional blackfacing be seen as funny"

I thought that all went away with the Black and White Minstrels .. Incidentally I wonder why they didn’t just use black singers ??


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[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I thought that all went away with the Black and White Minstrels .. Incidentally I wonder why they didn’t just use black singers ??

Because that wasn't the point, they were literally mocking black stereotypes rather than trying to emulate real black people.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because that wasn't the point, they were literally mocking black stereotypes rather than trying to emulate real black people.

People are now saying the movie 'White Chicks' should be pulled,have you seen it ? I haven't ,but apparently there are two black guys whited up as white women also people saying the Pyramids need to come down now as they were built by slaves, what are your thoughts on that ? are we going too far /

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

People are now saying the movie 'White Chicks' should be pulled,have you seen it ? I haven't ,but apparently there are two black guys whited up as white women also people saying the Pyramids need to come down now as they were built by slaves, what are your thoughts on that ? are we going too far /

You’ll probably find that the only people suggesting those things are people trying to mock and belittle the feelings of black people

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

People are now saying the movie 'White Chicks' should be pulled,have you seen it ? I haven't ,but apparently there are two black guys whited up as white women also people saying the Pyramids need to come down now as they were built by slaves, what are your thoughts on that ? are we going too far /

I might be completely wrong here but wasn't that a belief debunked by historians?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Because that wasn't the point, they were literally mocking black stereotypes rather than trying to emulate real black people.

My point is WHY mock anyone .. why didn’t they just have a white singers and black singers ??

It’s not as though there weren’t great black singers around at the time


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[Oliver_W]

It's a bit like Karen-like to want everything banned that makes one choose to feel "offended"