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Twosugars · 06-03-2019, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah most likely and I'm sure he had an horrendous time as a child himself, it doesn't excuse him though imo

No, it doesn't, but provides some context as to why. If the allegations are true, of course.
But since his estate is very rich we can't overlook financial gain as motivation either.

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

No, it doesn't, but provides some context as to why. If the allegations are true, of course.
But since his estate is very rich we can't overlook financial gain as motivation either.

The estate should come out fighting in court now that the accusations are out their. ..instead they make payments...and line up the other Jackson to say he wasn't a pedo..

Glenn. · 06-03-2019, 12:26 PM

I went completely off his music when he died and every radio station shoved him down our throats like he was such a loss lol

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 02:31 PM

I will still strut my stuff to his tunes though at the 80s night I'm going to this weekend if they play him..I will probably just interpret a pedo dancing while I dance.

Twosugars · 06-03-2019, 02:39 PM

Didn't know that, thanks Parm.

AnnieK · 06-03-2019, 03:23 PM

I am reserving judgement until I have seen the documentary. I don't want to believe it but the documentary with Martin Bashir years ago was an eye opener

All I know that there is no way I would let my 8 year old son sleep in the same bed as a grown ass man, no matter how friendly I was......or how rich he was. Nether would many grown ass men want to sleep in bed with a child....unless there was some ulterior motive.

Alf · 06-03-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

I am reserving judgement until I have seen the documentary. I don't want to believe it but the documentary with Martin Bashir years ago was an eye opener

All I know that there is no way I would let my 8 year old son sleep in the same bed as a grown ass man, no matter how friendly I was......or how rich he was. Nether would many grown ass men want to sleep in bed with a child....unless there was some ulterior motive.

Annie, are you OK? are you OK? are you OK, Annie?

Twosugars · 06-03-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Annie, are you OK? are you OK? are you OK, Annie?

you suggesting he was a smooth criminal?

chuff me dizzy · 06-03-2019, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK

I am reserving judgement until I have seen the documentary. I don't want to believe it but the documentary with Martin Bashir years ago was an eye opener

All I know that there is no way I would let my 8 year old son sleep in the same bed as a grown ass man, no matter how friendly I was......or how rich he was. Nether would many grown ass men want to sleep in bed with a child....unless there was some ulterior motive.

Yes it was !!!

Kazanne · 06-03-2019, 04:07 PM

Weren't the press and media gloating on how he was broke when he died ? now all of a sudden he is worth quite a bit,nothing is clear cut in this at all.

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Weren't the press and media gloating on how he was broke when he died ? now all of a sudden he is worth quite a bit,nothing is clear cut in this at all.

The royalties from the songs played on the radio on the day of his death must be worth about 10 million. ..and that's a conservative guess.

user104658 · 06-03-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Weren't the press and media gloating on how he was broke when he died ? now all of a sudden he is worth quite a bit,nothing is clear cut in this at all.

He was in significant debt when he died but (ironically, I guess) his death sparked a HUGE resurgence in sales of his music. His estate went from being hundreds of millions of dollars in debt, to (I believe) over $1 billion in the black.

reece(: · 06-03-2019, 04:14 PM

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...ified-14094338

Wtaf

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 06:32 PM

I'm actually raging at going over this again...his estate basically paid off families if the kids grassed Michael off for making them partake in mutual masterbation and probably cock kissing....but his music...oh his music....

This stinks on all accounts...power being the worst.

Marsh. · 06-03-2019, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

I'm actually raging at going over this again...his estate basically paid off families if the kids grassed Michael off for making them partake in mutual masterbation and probably cock kissing....but his music...oh his music....

This stinks on all accounts...power being the worst.

"Probably".

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 06:34 PM

Parents probably gutted a rape didn't happen......dollar dollars

Marsh. · 06-03-2019, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Parents probably gutted a rape didn't happen......dollar dollars

Who?

armand.kay · 06-03-2019, 07:22 PM

I'm somebody who's believed in MJ's innocence for a while now but thats not a hill i'm willing to die on.

i'm gonna give this documentary a chance and go into it with an open mind.

Parmy · 06-03-2019, 07:33 PM

Come on Marsh. .

There are loads of levels of pedophillia some like forcing etc...but Michael was like the football coaches..get a load of kids together and get them competing for your affection and praise..then see how they are with you showing them affection...

You forget the devious mind of a pedo, the thrill is almost as exciting if not more than the end result.

So if your target seems ammiacable enough for your jollies then fine..if not then someone else becomes a target. .and lets face facts here, the amount of worldwide kids dressing up as Michael sending letters to him and photos of them dressed up as him.....come on....the ****ers had all day to pick and chose.

Marsh. · 06-03-2019, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Come on Marsh. .

There are loads of levels of pedophillia some like forcing etc...but Michael was like the football coaches..get a load of kids together and get them competing for your affection and praise..then see how they are with you showing them affection...

You forget the devious mind of a pedo, the thrill is almost as exciting if not more than the end result.

So if your target seems ammiacable enough for your jollies then fine..if not then someone else becomes a target. .and lets face facts here, the amount of worldwide kids dressing up as Michael sending letters to him and photos of them dressed up as him.....come on....the ****ers had all day to pick and chose.

So he's guilty because he had kids as fans all over the world?

Ariana Grande is fooked.