[Tom4784]

I feel sorry for anyone who has lost people to war, it must have been quite distressing. I also feel sorry for the everyday normal Muslims that'll get associated with those waste of resources that did this.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I feel sorry for anyone who has lost people to war, it must have been quite distressing. I also feel sorry for the everyday normal Muslims that'll get associated with those waste of resources that did this.

I doubt they will, that is pretty much just a myth really. You never hear of Muslims being attacked in the street or anything just for cases like this.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by InOne

I doubt they will, that is pretty much just a myth really. You never hear of Muslims being attacked in the street or anything just for cases like this.

But it builds up hate towards the whole, some peopee will use this as a reason to validate their hate against all Muslims. Although nothing might not come of it with this incident, but hate like that piles up eventually.

[Novo]

Muslims need to speak out more about the Minority that are disgracing them.. they always seem far to quiet when things like this happen.. it would help if they were more vocal about these protesters

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by Novo

Muslims need to speak out more about the Minority that are disgracing them.. they always seem far to quiet when things like this happen.. it would help if they were more vocal about these protesters

This.

So many racist status' on Facebook tonight. People don't understand that it's just a minority of Muslims who believe this and that the majority are decent folk with respect for our culture.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

But it builds up hate towards the whole, some peopee will use this as a reason to validate their hate against all Muslims. Although nothing might not come of it with this incident, but hate like that piles up eventually.

Well plenty of incidents like this have happened. So the hate was probably already there anyway.

[Vicky.]

People who are going to hate a whole culture of people, based on the actions of a select few aren't worth bothering with either.

[InOne]

We always hear about these things but never know what happens to the people who did it, were any arrested or anything? I only skim read it

[Tom]

Deport anyone involved. They have no place in the UK.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

But a lot of them are homegrown, they were born and raised here and are British whether we like it or not, so it's not really possible to just kick them out or anything like that.

I understand that, but what I am saying is that we need some sort of citizenship criteria which even the "homegrown brits" have to sign up to. There used to be an offence called "Treason" which seems to have died a death in the last couple of decades - it means betrayal of your country and used to carry the death penalty. These aresholes are traitors to this country and should be dealt with accordingly which, in today's politically correct climate, should merit at least a prison sentence.

[Angus]

As regards the "silent majority" of law abiding muslims, perhaps they ought to remember the saying "all it takes for evil to flourish, is for good men to stand by and do nothing". It's about time they spoke up in condemnation of the actions of these morons, that is if they are really opposed to the actions of the "minority".

[Patrick]

I'm not English there for I don't wear poppies or really give a ****** about it.

But,

That is disgusting.

Why don't these Muslims just get the ****** out of the UK?
I'm not sure any one even wants them here anyway the messes, and anyone that DID like them probably turned on them now after their disgusting behaviour today.

Who the ****** do they think they are?


First they try to get South Park axed and threaten to kill one of the creators over a Teddy Bear, and now this?

Just ****** off and take your stupid little hat things with you.

Oh my god yeah!

You all know what you got to do right?


Is there a Muslim celebration day or something like 'St Mohammed's Day?' Idk, but whenever it is...

You all march down there with big signs saying GT.FO!

Right? Stay with me now,
And then you throw one of them hat masks whatever they're called, into a fire and dance around it singing Kumbaya!


Don't ban me or call me racist TiBB Staff, I'm sticking up for you English.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by angus58

I understand that, but what I am saying is that we need some sort of citizenship criteria which even the "homegrown brits" have to sign up to. There used to be an offence called "Treason" which seems to have died a death in the last couple of decades - it means betrayal of your country and used to carry the death penalty. These aresholes are traitors to this country and should be dealt with accordingly which, in today's politically correct climate, should merit at least a prison sentence.

I think treason is a slightly outdated concept though, I dont think there should be a low forcing you to be loyal to the country you're born in. Although if a particular group is actually a threat to a country and its security then by all means actions should be taken, and Islam4UK were banned by the government.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Tom

Deport anyone involved. They have no place in the UK.

Absolutely agree. They're abusing the freedoms that people fought and died for.

Also, anyone taking part in any kind of march or protest with their face covered should be arrested.

[Mr XcX]

What sadistic sick people they are.

Why would ANY God allow them to do that.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

Absolutely agree. They're abusing the freedoms that people fought and died for.

Also, anyone taking part in any kind of march or protest with their face covered should be arrested.

Where do you deport them to though? They're our citizens so they're our respnisbility at the end of the day.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Where do you deport them to though? They're our citizens so they're our respnisbility at the end of the day.

They have no allegiance to this country, so they have forfeited their citizenship as far as I'm concerned. They can't have it both ways.

[Big Sexy]

Originally Posted by angus58

I understand that, but what I am saying is that we need some sort of citizenship criteria which even the "homegrown brits" have to sign up to. There used to be an offence called "Treason" which seems to have died a death in the last couple of decades - it means betrayal of your country and used to carry the death penalty. These aresholes are traitors to this country and should be dealt with accordingly which, in today's politically correct climate, should merit at least a prison sentence.

Flawed thinking, though. The world is not that black and white a place. Think of all the great artists, comedians, musicians etc who have made a living from criticizing their countries and dressing them down [America being the predominant example]. What would you have done with them? I know in most cases these true patriots wanted simply to improve their country but does everyone really love the country they are in? I love my country but if I won the lottery I would be out of here. Shame on me?

I'm no PC nutter but freedom of speech is freedom of speech. No if's, no buts.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

Flawed thinking, though. The world is not that black and white a place. Think of all the great artists, comedians, musicians etc who have made a living from criticizing their countries and dressing them down [America being the predominant example]. What would you have done with them? I know in most cases these true patriots wanted simply to improve their country but does everyone really love the country they are in? I love my country but if I won the lottery I would be out of here. Shame on me?

I'm no PC nutter but freedom of speech is freedom of speech. No if's, no buts.

What utter drivel! If their so called "freedom of speech" includes inciting violence and hatred towards the very country they live in, then they are traitors, plain and simple and should be dealt with accordingly. It's about time some commonsense and logic were applied to these arseholes, instead of the usual politically correct twaddle that is trotted out by people living in their ivory towers.

[Big Sexy]

Originally Posted by angus58

What utter drivel! If their so called "freedom of speech" includes inciting violence and hatred towards the very country they live in, then they are traitors, plain and simple and should be dealt with accordingly. It's about time some commonsense and logic were applied to these arseholes, instead of the usual politically correct twaddle that is trotted out by people living in their ivory towers.

TWADDLE! OUTRAGE! RAPSCALIONS!

Nothing towards my point on the great artists, then? I know I'm clearly talking to a Daily Mail user message generation machine that thinks with it's balls but I'll try ...

Fair point on inciting violence which could lead to others harm. But are the EDF then and that whole hard headed patriotism culture in general responsible for inciting violence, knowingly or not, towards muslims? Where do you draw the line?

And that's the key isin't it. Where do you draw the line? Do you believe in free speech? You either do or you don't. Free speech is a very clear idea, IMO. And it's not one for PC morons living in 'ivory towers'. I also believe in the freedom for BNP jagoffs to have their little fantasy revolution marches.

You are going down a rocky, dark road denying the freedom of speech to a group of individuals. No matter how reprehensible they may be. Many ordinary people hate their countries too. Stop being so ****ing imperialistic about it.

Or screw it. We will censor them like many Arab countries would censor us. Oh the irony.

[Wonders how close Angus is to thinking I'm a muslim or a 'bleeding heart liberal'. I'm neither].

[Niall]

Ugh...so many people were going mad about this on Facebook earlier.

So many people were saying 'Muslims are *******s' 'Muslims should die' and I was trying to say to them, this is only a small minority of Muslims. But no-one would listen to me so I gave up. I feel sorry for those regular Muslims who have to put up with twats like this trying to cause trouble. And as usual the Daily Mail made it sound like World War III was about to break out.

[Boothy]

Originally Posted by InOne

We always hear about these things but never know what happens to the people who did it, were any arrested or anything? I only skim read it

Didn't look like it. Looked like the EDL were getting worse treatment if anything.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Big Sexy

TWADDLE! OUTRAGE! RAPSCALIONS!

Nothing towards my point on the great artists, then? I know I'm clearly talking to a Daily Mail user message generation machine that thinks with it's balls but I'll try ...

Fair point on inciting violence which could lead to others harm. But are the EDF then and that whole hard headed patriotism culture in general responsible for inciting violence, knowingly or not, towards muslims? Where do you draw the line?

And that's the key isin't it. Where do you draw the line? Do you believe in free speech? You either do or you don't. Free speech is a very clear idea, IMO. And it's not one for PC morons living in 'ivory towers'. I also believe in the freedom for BNP jagoffs to have their little fantasy revolution marches.

You are going down a rocky, dark road denying the freedom of speech to a group of individuals. No matter how reprehensible they may be. Many ordinary people hate their countries too. Stop being so ****ing imperialistic about it.

Or screw it. We will censor them like many Arab countries would censor us. Oh the irony.

[Wonders how close Angus is to thinking I'm a muslim or a 'bleeding heart liberal'. I'm neither].

Can't be arsed to respond to such a ridiculous post - go look up the meanings of traitor and treason and you will understand that these arseholes are ABUSING the privilege and inciting violence against our armed forces and our country - but hey ho, so long as it satisfies the politically correct morons and "right on" brigade, that's okay I guess. Oh, and the only thing that offends me in your misinformed post is the accusation that I'm a Daily Mail reader - talk about stereotyping people, but then that's the M.O. of most intolerant bigots which is probably why you sympathise with this vermin

By the way, the ignore feature is great for sparing me from having to even bother reading such utter apologistic crap

[Big Sexy]

Originally Posted by angus58

Can't be arsed to respond to such a ridiculous post - go look up the meanings of traitor and treason and you will understand that these arseholes are ABUSING the privilege and inciting violence against our armed forces and our country - but hey ho, so long as it satisfies the politically correct morons and "right on" brigade, that's okay I guess. Oh, and the only thing that offends me in your misinformed post is the accusation that I'm a Daily Mail reader - talk about stereotyping people, but then that's the M.O. of most intolerant bigots which is probably why you sympathise with this vermin

Quote to me the piece of text which you feel best shows I sympathise with them. Try and stay away from the bits where I call them 'reprehensible'. Go on. Go for it.

While you are at it, do the same little exercise only this time for me insinuating that you read the Daily Mail. I never said that. I said you SOUND like a Daily Mail comment. A mere reflection on your 'I'm so angry, bro' language, rather than the views expressed therein. You are clearly making your assumptions about me in abundance too. Waving that stupid little PC flag and assuming I am sympathising with these people?

Are you high?

I don't sympathise with them. Not one bit. I just believe in freedom of speech. These days on planet earth most foward thinking countries have put treason to bed in favour of free speech. It comes with it's downsides - sure - but on the whole it's a pretty swell concept. You cannot destroy it with arguments that have no actual content or application in the real world. The word 'treason' is not an argument. Repeating it ad nauseum will not win you supporterz. My brother hates this country. He thinks it is a small minded, foul weathered ****hole that's on a mission to get stupider with each passing Saturday night TV slot. As soon as he finishes his degree he is leaving for Australia and never coming back.

But not before you can burn him at the stake apparently. You bitter old bastard.

Freedom of speech is freedom of speech. But if you don't believe in that then that is cool too, bro.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Me!

Ugh...so many people were going mad about this on Facebook earlier.

So many people were saying 'Muslims are *******s' 'Muslims should die' and I was trying to say to them, this is only a small minority of Muslims. But no-one would listen to me so I gave up. I feel sorry for those regular Muslims who have to put up with twats like this trying to cause trouble. And as usual the Daily Mail made it sound like World War III was about to break out.

And still there's a deafening silence form the law abiding Muslim majority - no wonder people are pissed off. It just looks like the whole Muslim community are complicit in their behaviour because of their lack of condemnation of it.