[Marsh.]

She touched his throat, but in retaliation. You need to watch it again.

Before he then holds her down by both arms threatening to 'nut her'.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

She touched his throat, but in retaliation. You need to watch it again.

Before he then holds her down by both arms threatening to 'nut her'.

I know something I have condemned him for 101 times. But I also condemn all her prior behaviour to this

[Kizzy]

You can condemn all you like but you can't link the behaviour to his response..... she was being annoying and he was tired/hungry/ drunk/ constipated or whatever dumb excuse you like but he was wrong to do what he did even if he was furious end of.
NOTHING would fuel a rational man into doing that, no amount of horseplay or flirting.

[Marsh.]

Yes, but her behaviour doesn't excuse his.

You're excusing him by claiming this was all part of Hazel's master plan. Despite the fact Daley was the one to instigate a relationship way back at the start.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Yes, but her behaviour doesn't excuse his.

You're excusing him by claiming this was all part of Hazel's master plan. Despite the fact Daley was the one to instigate a relationship way back at the start.

where did I say I excuse him? that's right I didnt you are lying yet again

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You can condemn all you like but you can't link the behaviour to his response..... she was being annoying and he was tired/hungry/ drunk/ constipated or whatever dumb excuse you like but he was wrong to do what he did even if he was furious end of.
NOTHING would fuel a rational man into doing that, no amount of horseplay or flirting.

what about denise welch then? why wasn't shebooted? were you just as outraged when she assaulted 2 people

[Indy]

Why do people go to so much effort to lie about things everyone here can queue up on video and replay a dozen times over? He grabbed her throat, forced her down to the bed, let go of her throat, pinned her arms, got in her face and told her to learn to respect her elders or he would abuse her further.

Any version that says otherwise is fiction.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

Why do people go to so much effort to lie about things everyone here can queue up on video and replay a dozen times over? He grabbed her throat, forced her down to the bed, let go of her throat, pinned her arms, got in her face and told her to learn to respect her elders or he would abuse her further.

Any version that says otherwise is fiction.

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by the truth

what about denise welch then? why wasn't shebooted? were you just as outraged when she assaulted 2 people

How am I supposed to know?
I am only aware of the shots being tugged down incident so can't comment on anything else.
I was annoyed and was glad when she was warned, as hazel was.....

[Indy]

Originally Posted by the truth

you seem to have edited out all the things she did, so your version is fiction

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Indy

You mean like sitting in the garden talking to Charlie while he kept ranting about them? The 2nd rage he went into over her going back outside after her bathroom break?

I don't like the man, but it doesn't mean he should be crucified. he wanted kip and that's why he was telling them to keep it down. she tortured him as he is mentally a lot weaker and totally out of his depth. and no this doesn't justify him putting his hands on her neck.

[Marsh.]

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

[arista]

Originally Posted by fingers

Excellent liar!

Yes Fear they will Nominate her

[the truth]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

wrong again.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

No, he didn't want them to keep it down, he was demanding Hazel go inside the house.

Maybe we just don't have good enough super hearing superpowers... Only Daley does and he could hear them even though us mere mortals couldn't hear a peep of them from inside the room.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong again.

He didn't ask them to quiet down, he wanted Hazel inside the house. There is video evidence.

Stop with the lies.

[cheapbbfan]

She's an evil succubus and everyone warned him against her. He was too stupid to get involved with her

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by the truth

wrong again.

Originally Posted by 08marsh

He didn't ask them to quiet down, he wanted Hazel inside the house. There is video evidence.

Stop with the lies.

Yeah this. He never asked them to keep it down, he wanted Hazel inside and in bed, like the controlling arsehole that he is. Hazel wasn't ready to go to bed, she was happy outside talking to Charlie and tbf they weren't making that much noise, I'm sure it's probably alot more noisy sleeping in the main bedroom. BB closed the shutters for him and turned the lights off for him but that's not what he wanted, he wanted Hazel to do what she was told and go to bed, just like he told her not to wear so much make up and to go have her shower

[fingers]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

They both "abused" each other. He did not hurt her and there is zero evidence that he would have done. She got a scare but she soon got over it, to the extent she climbed into his bed the following morning.

I maintain it is an serious insult to women (and men) who are in abusive relationships to lump Hazel in with them.

The only "SCARE" she got was when BB intervened and called Daley to the Diary Room, That's when she guiltily jumped out of bed and onto the chair, There was obviously no more danger to her from Daley but there could have been from BB if BB thought that she was instigating something. Guilty as hell just as she looked guilty in the house at the announcement of Daley's exit.
An accomplished liar and cocktease, Dan's next on the list if she can turn him.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by fingers

The only "SCARE" she got was when BB intervened and called Daley to the Diary Room, That's when she guiltily jumped out of bed and onto the chair, There was obviously no more danger to her from Daley but there could have been from BB if BB thought that she was instigating something. Guilty as hell just as she looked guilty in the house at the announcement of Daley's exit.
An accomplished liar and cocktease, Dan's next on the list if she can turn him.

Daley was the one who turned.... She was wanting a hug?
He was being argumentative, intimidating and rude I'm talking the last 3mins here.
It was uncomfortable viewing.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by fingers

The only "SCARE" she got was when BB intervened and called Daley to the Diary Room, That's when she guiltily jumped out of bed and onto the chair, There was obviously no more danger to her from Daley but there could have been from BB if BB thought that she was instigating something. Guilty as hell just as she looked guilty in the house at the announcement of Daley's exit.
An accomplished liar and cocktease, Dan's next on the list if she can turn him.

Wow, I just can't believe that you actually watched what he did to her and still say that. I would have been terrified if a man did that to me. It was scary even watching it. If she wasn't at all scared and was putting on an act then why didn't she act more upset in the Diary Room? She wasn't melo dramatic about it all, she told it like what we saw, she seemed confused at whether or not he was being serious but she said she felt a bit threatened when he said he would "nut her"

[kistar]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

FFS stop referring to Hazel as an abused woman. It is an insult to those women who are trapped in abusive relationships.

Hazel could walk away any time. She chose not to.

Exactly!

[Kizzy]

Daley chose to put himself in the role of aggressor.... And he was removed from the house.
He admitted on bots he overstepped the mark, imo he did much more.

[fingers]

Hazel is a congenital liar and she will find out about what the public think of her "innocent" part in this whole debacle when she gets out -and the sooner she's out the better.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by fingers

Excellent liar!

I am actually amazed that she did that. How she didn't seize upon the opportunity for sympathy and safety from noms is beyond what I thought of her. She may just be worried for once??