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[King Gizzard]

Mancini probably out of City, Chelsea new manager, United new manager..

[Drew.]

Wengers position still not 100% certain too.

[Brother Leon]

Well. It'll be a transition period either way when he does leave. Might aswell bring in Ole and Nev. Yeah, we probably won't win **** for ages, but man how sweet it will be if we do.

[Drew.]

PSG could potentially lose points for something pretty strange.. would be hilarious if they didn't win the league because of it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22437768

[Novo]

I remember when Leonardo proper elbowed someone in the face in a World Cup match and got sent off for it, the other player was having a fit on the floor as well. bit of a hothead at times

[Locke.]

all united fans seem to be ****ting themselves and will be gutted if the news is true.. im excited of the thought of United being in control of another manager and seeing what they can do

There'll be no control I'm afraid it will just be a straight drop down the table

http://www.scoundrelscomedyclub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/angelos-banner1.jpg

[Shaun]

Wengers position still not 100% certain too.

can't see him ever being fired. Would be heinous.

[Drew.]

There'll be no control I'm afraid it will just be a straight drop down the table

http://www.scoundrelscomedyclub.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/angelos-banner1.jpg

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[Drew.]

can't see him ever being fired. Would be heinous.

i cant either unless we finished outside of European football, but hes not got long left on his contract so nothings really guaranteed with him atm

[Shaun]

How old even is he? :suspect: *guesses 61 and goes to wiki*

[Shaun]

ah, 63.

[Drew.]

he wont leave whilst hes under a contract but i can possibly see him going when it runs out.. only a year left i think.

[Novo]

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Locke claiming he was behind the idea for Facebook

[Drew.]

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[King Gizzard]

what a **** head

[Drew.]

Bull ****. When he doesn't retire they just say "he decided no to go through with it then" and the 1% chance he actually does "we broke it first".

got the tissues ready for you bruh

[Drew.]

i think Mourinho could be taking over, hes confident hes leaving Madrid this summer so much that hes starting to let out how he really feels about the players at Madrid and theres no chance he wouldnt be causing this much chaos unless he was sure he was leaving and had a club lined up next season. The Chelsea rumours were never concrete and no deals have been agreed with Mourinho and Chelsea.. and Fergie would have lined up his successor first before stepping down, i think it could be Mourinho.

[Drew.]

just as i say that SSN say Moyes is in pole position for the job.

[Ryan57]

Has to be Jose, come on! We want to conquer Europe again and he's the man to do it.

[Drew.]

PUMA Football ‏@pumafootball 12m
We will have an exciting announcement for you this evening. Tune in for big news at 19:00 GMT.

could be to do with this shirt deal

[Drew.]

Cech/Azpilicueta Ivanovic Cahill Cole/Ramires Luiz/Oscar Mata Hazard/Torres

[Drew.]

Lloris/Walker Dawson Vertonghen Ekotto/Huddlestone Parker/Lennon Holtby Bale/Adebayor

[Drew.]

Defoe injured, excellentttt, Make me love you even more tonight Mata

[Marcus.]

chelsea to win

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/AH483U0.jpg

[King Gizzard]

this is just gonna be about fergie isn't it, even during the game they'll be bloody talking about it

[Drew.]

opening titles will be about fergie

[Drew.]

called it.. well there was a picture of him.

[King Gizzard]

you're half right

[King Gizzard]

neville is there so it will be

[King Gizzard]

Need them to win this then rest players vs us

[Drew.]

i can see this being a classic 3-2 or 4-3 game.. iv jinxed it now.

[King Gizzard]

although it would be kinda cool for avb to win at the bridge

[Drew.]

dont get dragged into it Nathan! a Chelsea win and nothing else!

[King Gizzard]

!

[Drew.]

Lampard grabbing a couple of goals would be nice

[King Gizzard]

is he starting

[Drew.]

no :(

[Drew.]

super sub Frank

[King Gizzard]

Hoddle and Souness.. zz z

[King Gizzard]

Jesus Christ you'd have thought he's died with all this coverage

[Drew.]

such a relief when you see Wilkins and Quinn sitting there doing punditry instead of commentating over the game.

[Novo]

Souness :worship:

[King Gizzard]

Thankfully it will be Gary Nev on commentary with someone

[Marcus.]

what is full of sir alex

[King Gizzard]

sky should bring back the no commentary option, don't think they even have it for super sunday anymore, can't believe they got rid of fanzone

[King Gizzard]

Player cam

[Drew.]

hopefully Martin Tyler but i dont think he'll be on again tonight

[Drew.]

a camera strapped round the refs head to see what hes seeing would be bloody good

[King Gizzard]

hopefully Martin Tyler but i dont think he'll be on again tonight

Tyler talks continual crap and bias in nearly every single game, he was gutted every time Swansea scored last night

[Drew.]

i find the tone of voices on a majority of the commentators quite annoying, one of them is insanely slow with his commentary too, i cant remember which one it is.

[King Gizzard]

alan smith?

[Drew.]

nah not him... hes the main commentator.. has quite a dragged out tone in his voice and usually just goes "ohh what a goal"

[Drew.]

i'll point him out next time hes on

[Ryan57]

AVB is a really good looking guy isn't he. Would of liked him at United one day.

[Drew.]

he does have a great mop of hair

[Brother Leon]

Tyler talks continual crap and bias in nearly every single game, he was gutted every time Swansea scored last night

Most football fans not involved at the bottom would of been gutted tbf.

[Ryan57]

he does have a great mop of hair

Indeed. Definitely the fittest Premier League manager. Although, when Jose comes back, wow, forget the football, be tough to choose between those pair in the looks department.

[Drew.]

you've forgot about someone

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwabv7CAAAdKhq.jpg

[Drew.]

Lets goooo

[Brother Leon]

i find the tone of voices on a majority of the commentators quite annoying, one of them is insanely slow with his commentary too, i cant remember which one it is.

Andy Gray>>

Sky ain't been the same since he was sacked.

[Drew.]

Oscarrrrrrrr

[Ryan57]

you've forgot about someone

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJwabv7CAAAdKhq.jpg

Erm, no thanks Drew.

However, I was shocked when that affair came out. Wenger always seemed like he did have a ****** in him.



Also, about the football, come on Spurs.

[Ryan57]

TAKE A BOW SON! Laziest player on the pitch. What a hit!

[Drew.]

bollocks

[Locke.]

Would love a Spurs win and Chelsea (who I still think have the hardest run in even after tonights game) to fail to get top 4, would halt Mourinho's plans in the summer a little.

[Marc]

Great talk Locke

[Novo]

Forfar 1-0 Dunfermline in the big game up in Scotland

[Drew.]

ramires you beauty

[Novo]

Good old Chelsea are getting it done i see

[Ryan57]

Great goal from Ramires. Shat!

Come on Bale, second half hat-trick.

[Novo]

Ramires has knocked himself out

[Drew.]

Luiz doing an Eboue and listening to the manager giving players tactics :joker:

[Ryan57]

Bale has done sweet FA tonight. :nono:

[Ryan57]

Lulz, great change from Rafa.

http://andriyvoroninfanclub.webs.com/benayoun%20the%20rat.jpg

[Ryan57]

Lol, Torres. Heskey would of kept the ball better tonight.

[Drew.]

thank god that finished 2-2. I think Chelsea could dropped some points still at either Villa or against Everton and i think Spurs could still potentially drop points.. 4th place is in our hands now, 3rd is still a possibility too

[Locke.]

Thought Torres was decent tonight, especially in the first half. Still nothing on his former self though, but better than his usual Chelsea performances.

[King Gizzard]

@neilashton_

Wayne Rooney asks Manchester United for transfer. Chelsea make their move. More in tmrw's Mail and on Mail Online.

[King Gizzard]

I don't see Rooney Bayern being that unrealistic y'know

[Drew.]

I don't see Rooney Bayern being that unrealistic y'know

it will happen

[Brother Leon]

As I said. Tell them to give us Bastian/Martinez or do one.

[King Gizzard]

They'll have to sell someone big for sure..too many great players

[bbfan1991]

Papers reckon Chelsea are in for Rooney now. I would actually be gutted if he does leave United and I cannot see Coleen wanting to go abroad, they have a young family to consider too.

[King Gizzard]

absolutely crazy the last couple days

[Brother Leon]

If we sell it will not be Chelsea. Unless we are truly idiots. We aren't Arsenal I hope.

[Drew.]

Moyes to send him to Chelsea on his 1st day in charge

[King Gizzard]

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 1m

Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright tells #SSN, "Deal not done" for David Moyes to join Manchester United

[bbfan1991]

Rooney should comment on this speculation soon as now, but I do find it strange how he has said nothing on the PSG/Bayern stories.

His agent Paul Stretford is a **** though.

[bbfan1991]

Everton chairman Bill Kenwright tells #SSN "deal not done" for David Moyes to join Manchester United.


He could be lying...

[Drew.]

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 1m

Everton Chairman Bill Kenwright tells #SSN, "Deal not done" for David Moyes to join Manchester United

sounds like there has definitely been contact then

[King Gizzard]

deal not done probably signatures away from it being done Lol

[Ryan57]

Please, Bill, convince him to stay with you. Promise him cash.

Leon, would take Robben as part of a deal. :suspect:

Unless of course, Bastian fancied a new challenge which of course would lead to cocks out time.

[bbfan1991]

Plus CR7 apparently said in Spanish after scoring for Real Madrid vs Malaga tonight that he is staying at Real Madrid, which kind of puts a dampen on the Daily Fail's article.

[bbfan1991]

Just saw this on Twitter, class act by SAF:worship:.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJxqbnNCUAALziX.jpg

[Ryan57]

Plus CR7 apparently said in Spanish after scoring for Real Madrid vs Malaga tonight that he is staying at Real Madrid, which kind of puts a dampen on the Daily Fail's article.

Always unlikely he'd leave due to presidential elections mainly. And now David 'effin Moyes in charge. No chance of attracting a big name like that now.

[Ryan57]

Real Madrid manager, Jose Mourinho’s summer departure now seems imminent as new reports reveal that Jose Mourinho has completely lost the locker room and is only speaking to three players; Diego Lopez, Michael Essien and Luka Modric.

LOL! Jose. <3

[bbfan1991]

Now I am confused if the press are saying that Wayne Rooney asked for a transfer two weeks ago, which was turned down why didn't they print a story about it then and also why did some them then print stories saying he wants to stay at United?

[Ryan57]

Now I am confused if the press are saying that Wayne Rooney asked for a transfer two weeks ago, which was turned down why didn't they print a story about it then and also why did some them then print stories saying he wants to stay at United?

Media are very fickle, xD.

[bbfan1991]

Indeed, like us fans;).

[Ryan57]

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 20m
Stories about Wayne Rooney asking for a transfer are correct. Asked to see Ferguson two weeks ago, request was rejected #mufc

Daniel Taylor ‏@DTguardian 5m
To clarify from earlier tweet, it wasn't reported at the time as it wasn't known/confirmed until this evening

Gathering pace...

[Ryan57]

I think he's going to depart this summer. Usually with the media, when they continuously report something in football it tends to come true.

[King Gizzard]

Taylor/Ogden have been pretty spot on about all this stuff and he's saying it quite matter of factly..

If I was him I'd want to stay and beat the records

[King Gizzard]

Taylor/Ogden have been pretty spot on about all this stuff and he's saying it quite matter of factly..

If I was him I'd want to stay and beat the records

[Ryan57]

Taylor/Ogden have been pretty spot on about all this stuff and he's saying it quite matter of factly..

If I was him I'd want to stay and beat the records

Evidently fell out of favour with Fergie and Moyes and him aren't exactly best friends. Had it been another manager I bet he'd of wanted to stay.

[King Gizzard]

Bayern would be very appealing to me if I was a player, would probably even take the pay cut (doubt they'd pay him what he's on at United, gotze is only on 150k there as it is)

[King Gizzard]

lol 'only'

[Drew.]

Rooney would be mad to turn down a move to Bayern, think Gomez is out this summer so it makes sense.. he'll also be playing in his preferred position

[bbfan1991]

It would be slightly amusing to see Rooney immerse himself in German culture and trying to learn the language if he goes to Bayern.

[Drew.]

i hope it happens, i want to try and follow German football next season and it'll be really good to see how he does in a different country

[Brother Leon]

**** German football. Sell him to MLS or keep him. :idc:

[Ryan57]

Bayern would be very appealing to me if I was a player, would probably even take the pay cut (doubt they'd pay him what he's on at United, gotze is only on 150k there as it is)

Well Rooney isn't on the £250,000 the media say he is. So they'd probably pay him around what's on now.
The issue I still see is Coleen. If he had no wife and no kids then it's an easy move really. If Coleen doesn't want to move then he's left with Chelsea and the backlash from United fans.
You never know though, Coleen may relocate. I don't mean this to sound bad but now her ill sister has passed she may be more willing to relocate as she never wanted to move away from her.

Another issue with a move to Bayern is of course playing time. The falling out of favour with Fergie is what has led to him wanting out. With the amount of options at Pep's disposal next season (some will leave but there will still be many options) he might go there and request yet another transfer lol.

[Brother Leon]

The irony if he has requested a transfer. Done it last time for lack of ambition. We sign Robin Van Persie and he requests one, because he is no longer first choice. Oh..Irony.

[Drew.]

how much is Rooney worth.. thats the question

[Ryan57]

The irony if he has requested a transfer. Done it last time for lack of ambition. We sign Robin Van Persie and he requests one, because he is no longer first choice. Oh..Irony.

He never said lack of ambition though. Well, not technically. This was something the media constantly said rather than him. Like the £250k BS. He said he didn't think we could attract top names anymore. Something a ton of our fans were saying at that very time.

And Drew, based on this season, £25 mil - £30 mil I guess. I would like to get £50 mil based on his talent and seemingly his season not being as good as last due to him wanting to leave.

[Drew.]

yeah, i would have said 25.. 30 at max

[Ryan57]

Offer to Real in part exchange for Ronaldo. Deep down Ronnie's dream is to play under David Moyes.

[Shaun]

lovely result tonight

now for us to cock up against a fighting Wigan <3

[Ryan57]

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[Brother Leon]

He never said lack of ambition though. Well, not technically. This was something the media constantly said rather than him. Like the £250k BS. He said he didn't think we could attract top names anymore. Something a ton of our fans were saying at that very time.

And Drew, based on this season, £25 mil - £30 mil I guess. I would like to get £50 mil based on his talent and seemingly his season not being as good as last due to him wanting to leave.

even more ironic lol.



and Drew, he's worth 30m minimum. We sell for less and I will not be pleased :joker:

[bbfan1991]

Danny Welbeck will be under pressure to be a goalscorer next season then LOL.

The same Journalist from the Daily Mail who has done the Rooney transfer request story Ian Ladyman was the same person who did an article a few weeks ago saying that WR wanted to stay at United and a new contract. Hmm?

[King Gizzard]

ladyman lol lol

[King Gizzard]

Welbz to Spurz

[bbfan1991]

Emmanuel Adebayor impressed me tonight for Spurs at Chelsea, he will leave them in the Summer anyway LOOOL.

Hopefully Wigan will be tired after the FA Cup Final and lose to Arsenal, Shaun:evilgrin:.

[bbfan1991]

ladyman lol lol

Plus the papers claim to have quotes from United saying that Rooney is not for sale when if United were to comment it would be via their website or in a press conference...

[Ramsay]

adebayor scored today..what a shock lol. heard it was serious though
draw wasent good enough, really needed a win :(

[Drew.]

There will be 1 more slip up in the next two games out of Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs.. It'll come down to the final day, will be hard to watch.

[Novo]

Rangers salute Sir Alex and manager Ally McCoist said: "His like may never be seen again. Sir Alex has been a colossus and his achievements might never be surpassed.
"He has been at the very pinnacle of the game for so many years and seemed to get better with age. His defeats always seemed to make him stronger and he always bounced back to reach another height.

"But while his total dedication and intense will to win were always obvious Sir Alex also had a sharp sense of humour. When I heard about his decision I sent him a text saying: ‘Gaffer, I hope this isn’t an over-reaction to Monday’s result when Rangers Legends beat Manchester United Legends 4-1’."

Ally scored twice in that match watched by Sir Alex, who, quick as a flash, sent as text in reply saying: "Ha ha… PS, you were offside."

"Sir Alex, who built team after team, and not only on the pitch, will be sorely missed by the game. Time and again he proved himself a football genius with no equal," Ally added. "We all wish him well, the players, the staff and the fans."


:joker:

[Shaun]

I think Arsenal should worry the most... their two teams are fighting to avoid relegation. The others have fairly easy/safe teams.

[Jesus.]

Just saw this on Twitter, class act by SAF:worship:.



He wanted to sign him. It's hardly a letter to an unknown league 3 midfielder.

[Jesus.]

Can't see Bayern wanting Rooney. He doesn't have the fitness or stamina to play in a pep team, and he is on £220-250k/wk. PSG are the only team that could afford him.

Don't think he's fulfilled his potential tbh. He's won the medals, but does anyone think he's better now than in 04?

[Ryan57]

Danny Welbeck will be under pressure to be a goalscorer next season then LOL.

The same Journalist from the Daily Mail who has done the Rooney transfer request story Ian Ladyman was the same person who did an article a few weeks ago saying that WR wanted to stay at United and a new contract. Hmm?

More than one source reported Rooney wants to leave last night. It looks extremely likely.

Also, interestingly, he's now changed his Twitter bio from 'Manchester United player' to 'NikeUK Athlete.'

Can't see Bayern wanting Rooney. He doesn't have the fitness or stamina to play in a pep team, and he is on £220-250k/wk. PSG are the only team that could afford him.

Don't think he's fulfilled his potential tbh. He's won the medals, but does anyone think he's better now than in 04?

An in form Wayne Rooney could easily play in a Guardiola team. His best form was in 2009/10. Euro 2004 was fantastic, looked a quality young player, however at some stage in 2009/10 he was quite possibly the best player on the planet.

Edit: And he isn't on £250k.

[Jesus.]

More than one source reported Rooney wants to leave last night. It looks extremely likely.

Also, interestingly, he's now changed his Twitter bio from 'Manchester United player' to 'NikeUK Athlete.'



An in form Wayne Rooney could easily play in a Guardiola team. His best form was in 2009/10. Euro 2004 was fantastic, looked a quality young player, however at some stage in 2009/10 he was quite possibly the best player on the planet.

Edit: And he isn't on £250k.

Best player on the planet in 09/10? Seriously?

He is on between £220-250k/wk. Where is your evidence that he isn't? He wanted a massive pay rise to compete with what city players were earning at that time. Everyone reported it as £220-250k. Only on this forum (and probably united forums) will you find people playing make believe with sponsors making up his payments.

[Brother Leon]

He's the 4th top scorer of all time for the most succesful English club. If he stays until his 30s not only does he break the record, but he smashes it. Even If he retires today his name goes down next to Best,Charlton,Law. If that isn't meeting potential them he must of been a possible GOAT.

[Ryan57]

Best player on the planet in 09/10? Seriously?

He is on between £220-250k/wk. Where is your evidence that he isn't? He wanted a massive pay rise to compete with what city players were earning at that time. Everyone reported it as £220-250k. Only on this forum (and probably united forums) will you find people playing make believe with sponsors making up his payments.

Clearly you forget 2009/10. The guy scored 34 goals by mid March. He carried United all season. Phil Thompson, extremely biased Scouser, said at one stage of that season he believed him to be, at that time, the best on the planet.
Rooney was absolutely amazing that campaign. His best season in his whole career. Had he not been injured in Munich in the Champions League quarter final we'd of won the league and stood a good chance of conquering Europe. He was that good.

He is now the highest-paid player at Manchester United, overtaking defender Rio Ferdinand. The striker, who was previously on £90,000 per week, is now understood to be earning a basic salary in excess of £150,000 per week.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1322859/Wayne-Rooney-staying-Manchester-United-signing-new-contract.html

It was the media who reported the £150,000 a week. However, it's not as bigger headline as saying he's on £250k. That 'in excess' line is based on clauses.

Also here:

Reports say he will be on a basic of £150-160,000 a week but will more than double that figure through image rights.

Despite the happy ending, United fans will not see Rooney in action for another three weeks because of an ankle injury he picked up in training.

http://news.sky.com/story/813882/its-a-deal-wayne-ends-the-pain-for-utd-fans

He isn't on £250k from United. End of that one. Just something rival fans love to mention when it's wrong.

[Jesus.]

He's the 4th top scorer of all time for the most succesful English club. If he stays until his 30s not only does he break the record, but he smashes it. Even If he retires today his name goes down next to Best,Charlton,Law. If that isn't meeting potential them he must of been a possible GOAT.

I wouldn't put Rooney in the Best, Charlton & Law category at all. Looking from the outside, he's a worse player now than when he broke through, but I don't see his all round play week in week out, so maybe he is a much better player and I don't see it. When he broke on to the scene, he looked as though he could be what Messi and Ronaldo have turned into. He was taking teams on, powering through them and finishing.

I'll accept your judgment on his abilities, but I'd be interested to know what older united fans who actually saw best and Charlton play, say about where he fits in your GOAT list.

[Jesus.]

Clearly you forget 2009/10. The guy scored 34 goals by mid March. He carried United all season. Phil Thompson, extremely biased Scouser, said at one stage of that season he believed him to be, at that time, the best on the planet.
Rooney was absolutely amazing that campaign. His best season in his whole career. Had he not been injured in Munich in the Champions League quarter final we'd of won the league and stood a good chance of conquering Europe. He was that good.

He is now the highest-paid player at Manchester United, overtaking defender Rio Ferdinand. The striker, who was previously on £90,000 per week, is now understood to be earning a basic salary in excess of £150,000 per week.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1322859/Wayne-Rooney-staying-Manchester-United-signing-new-contract.html

It was the media who reported the £150,000 a week. However, it's not as bigger headline as saying he's on £250k. That 'in excess' line is based on clauses.

Also here:

Reports say he will be on a basic of £150-160,000 a week but will more than double that figure through image rights.

Despite the happy ending, United fans will not see Rooney in action for another three weeks because of an ankle injury he picked up in training.

http://news.sky.com/story/813882/its-a-deal-wayne-ends-the-pain-for-utd-fans

He isn't on £250k from United. End of that one. Just something rival fans love to mention when it's wrong.


Who pays image rights?

I'm genuinely not having a go, but if you want to bring media reports into it then read the media reports from the last few days stating what his contract is.

[Ryan57]

Who pays image rights?

Nike.

And here is another quote:

Rooney’s deal is thought to be worth in the region of £160,000 per week in basic salary but could top £200,000 once incentives are worked in.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/wayne-rooney/8083245/Wayne-Rooneys-new-Manchester-United-contract-does-contain-a-break-clause.html

It's only debatable as to how he will get to £250k a week. He isn't on £250k from United. That's a fact, as Rafa would say.

[Ryan57]

Who pays image rights?

I'm genuinely not having a go, but if you want to bring media reports into it then read the media reports from the last few days stating what his contract is.

Why would the media report he's getting £150k a week, rising to £250k a week, and then throughout the years since he signed that contract report he's on £250k a week?

Easy answer, sensationalism.

It's just like with the 'Rooney claimed United lacked ambition', he never said that. In the media it's all about sensationalism.
I remember a few years back The Sun had an Evra story. I think he claimed Arsenal were no longer a big team or something. Anywho, the headline was basically he'd criticised a team. I then read the article, said team weren't even mentioned.

If Rooney was on £250k a week, why did we refuse to offer Eden Hazard £170k then? There would be no reason as to why we didn't match Chelsea's wage offer.

[Jesus.]

Nike.

And here is another quote:

Rooney’s deal is thought to be worth in the region of £160,000 per week in basic salary but could top £200,000 once incentives are worked in.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/wayne-rooney/8083245/Wayne-Rooneys-new-Manchester-United-contract-does-contain-a-break-clause.html

It's only debatable as to how he will get to £250k a week. He isn't on £250k from United. That's a fact, as Rafa would say.

I don't think that's correct. Image rights are paid by the club, because it will have to be taken from use of his image. He will have a separate deal with Nike, who are his sponsors.

Any deals incorporating image rights, are taken from the club.

If I find 10 links from websites saying he's on 250k/week will that mean that I'm right? Because I could go and do that.

Your key piece is resting on image rights, and if that is any way related to Nike, then he has 2 deals with Nike? Doesn't make sense.

[Ryan57]

I don't think that's correct. Image rights are paid by the club, because it will have to be taken from use of his image. He will have a separate deal with Nike, who are his sponsors.

Any deals incorporating image rights, are taken from the club.

If I find 10 links from websites saying he's on 250k/week will that mean that I'm right? Because I could go and do that.

Your key piece is resting on image rights, and if that is any way related to Nike, then he has 2 deals with Nike? Doesn't make sense.

Do you really think we'd pay him £250k a week? The media themselves even said it was £150k, with it rising to £250k. This is the media. They like to sensationalise things. We'd be opening up a can of worms paying him £250k. Any future player, let's say Van Persie, would say, 'I want the same, or thereabouts'.
Also, I said, it's debatable as to how he could earn the £250k. I remember reading back in 2010, not image rights, and instead based on clauses.

I wouldn't put Rooney in the Best, Charlton & Law category at all. Looking from the outside, he's a worse player now than when he broke through, but I don't see his all round play week in week out, so maybe he is a much better player and I don't see it. When he broke on to the scene, he looked as though he could be what Messi and Ronaldo have turned into. He was taking teams on, powering through them and finishing.

I'll accept your judgment on his abilities, but I'd be interested to know what older united fans who actually saw best and Charlton play, say about where he fits in your GOAT list.

This season has been deemed a 'bad' one by some for him. If this is a bad season then god help anyone else.

In a season in which he's had injuries, fallen out of favour with Fergie and become United's 'second star man' he's still managed 16 goals and 13 assists from 31 starts and 6 bench appearances.
Last season he was absolutely fantastic. This campaign, he's fallen out of favour which, obviously, plays some part in how his season has gone.

[Jesus.]

Do you really think we'd pay him £250k a week? The media themselves even said it was £150k, with it rising to £250k. This is the media. They like to sensationalise things. We'd be opening up a can of worms paying him £250k. Any future player, let's say Van Persie, would say, 'I want the same, or thereabouts'.
Also, I said, it's debatable as to how he could earn the £250k. I remember reading back in 2010, not image rights, and instead based on clauses.



This season has been deemed a 'bad' one by some for him. If this is a bad season then god help anyone else.

In a season in which he's had injuries, fallen out of favour with Fergie and become United's 'second star man' he's still managed 16 goals and 13 assists from 31 starts and 6 bench appearances.
Last season he was absolutely fantastic. This campaign, he's fallen out of favour which, obviously, plays some part in how his season has gone.

I'm not sure how £150k/wk + image rights from the club, is different to £250k/wk from the club. It's just assigning it from a different pot.

Seems like you believe the media reports you like, but then accuse the ones you don't of "sensationalism". I don't think you can really have it both ways.

I am happy to agree to disagree though. I just don't think Rooney would have kicked up such a fuss then signed a new contract earning less than Steven Gerrard. You feel free to believe that if you like.

[Ryan57]

I don't think that's correct. Image rights are paid by the club, because it will have to be taken from use of his image. He will have a separate deal with Nike, who are his sponsors.

Any deals incorporating image rights, are taken from the club.

If I find 10 links from websites saying he's on 250k/week will that mean that I'm right? Because I could go and do that.

Your key piece is resting on image rights, and if that is any way related to Nike, then he has 2 deals with Nike? Doesn't make sense.

I could be wrong, I'm not too sure about image rights.

Have just seen this:

Image rights allow a club to pay a portion of a player’s wages in exchange for using their image to promote the club and their sponsors. Payments are made to a separate company, often based offshore, and taxed at a lower rate or not at all.

Seems it is the club then. Hold my hands up, I was wrong. However, if we really trawled the internet for 2010 articles about Rooney signing a new deal we'd see it's £150k a week.

The media said £150k themselves. Those same websites that said it was £150k and rising, by whatever means, also say £250k as that's the media for you. Do you honestly think we're paying a player £250k a week? Why would we refute Hazard's demands?

Believe what you like.

[Ryan57]

At least we can agree in terms of the joke decision of David Moyes. Liverpool fans nationwide must still be laughing.

[Ryan57]

Aston Villa captain Stiliyan Petrov, who has been suffering from acute leukaemia, has announced his retirement from football.

What a shame. :(

[Jesus.]

I could be wrong, I'm not too sure about image rights.

Have just seen this:

Image rights allow a club to pay a portion of a player’s wages in exchange for using their image to promote the club and their sponsors. Payments are made to a separate company, often based offshore, and taxed at a lower rate or not at all.

Seems it is the club then. Hold my hands up, I was wrong. However, if we really trawled the internet for 2010 articles about Rooney signing a new deal we'd see it's £150k a week.

The media said £150k themselves. Those same websites that said it was £150k and rising, by whatever means, also say £250k as that's the media for you. Do you honestly think we're paying a player £250k a week? Why would we refute Hazard's demands?

Believe what you like.

I don't think you did. Hazard flirted with every club around for a while. He then chose to join Chelsea. United didn't turn him down.

[Ryan57]

I don't think you did. Hazard flirted with every club around for a while. He then chose to join Chelsea. United didn't turn him down.

What I meant was, why didn't we match the wages Chelsea offered if we're paying Rooney £250k a week? He was one of our main targets last summer.

[Jesus.]

What I meant was, why didn't we match the wages Chelsea offered if we're paying Rooney £250k a week? He was one of our main targets last summer.

He chose to go to Chelsea. It wasn't about matching the salary he wanted.

[Ryan57]

He chose to go to Chelsea. It wasn't about matching the salary he wanted.

He went for money. Nothing else. The guy spoke absolute bollocks all year about where he was going. I was glad, in a way, that we didn't get him due to his ego. However, after seeing our sorry excuse for wingers this season, I wish we had signed him now.

[Jesus.]

He went for money. Nothing else. The guy spoke absolute bollocks all year about where he was going. I was glad, in a way, that we didn't get him due to his ego. After seeing our sorry excuse for wingers this season, I wish we had signed him now.

Tell yourself that if you wish. He could have earned more from going to PSG. He signed for the European champions at the time, in one of the most sought after cities in the world.

He wasn't going to be poor wherever he went, and although he publicly used all clubs to bump his eventual salary up, I doubt money was his sole motivation.

However, I could well be wrong on that score, and none of us really know. He seemed to be hinting at going to City for a long time from what I remember.

[Ryan57]

Tell yourself that if you wish. He could have earned more from going to PSG. He signed for the European champions at the time, in one of the most sought after cities in the world.

He wasn't going to be poor wherever he went, and although he publicly used all clubs to bump his eventual salary up, I doubt money was his sole motivation.

However, I could well be wrong on that score, and none of us really know. He seemed to be hinting at going to City for a long time from what I remember.

He wanted to come to England so PSG were off the cards. He said he'd be moving to one of the Manchester clubs. Never happened. Why? Well, City dropped out of the running due to his wage demands (yes, even City) and before this we were favourites to sign him.

He then said he was going to announce his future, then made another announcement to say he has to think about it with Chelsea having conquered Europe. A Chelsea team that, let's be fair, were far from the best team in Europe.
Chelsea offered more cash, and it seems a bit suspicious that they signed his brother shortly after. Wouldn't be surprised if this was one of his demands.

[Ryan57]

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hazard1.png

Hazard through the year, meaning last season. Laughable.

[Jesus.]

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Hazard through the year, meaning last season. Laughable.

That's why I said he flirted with everyone last season. Don't think it actually came down to united refusing to meet his demands. But who really knows?

[Ryan57]

That's why I said he flirted with everyone last season. Don't think it actually came down to united refusing to meet his demands. But who really knows?

I really think it was cash with the way he was.

Anywho, The Guardian are doing a live blog for who'll be named the next United boss. No need for a blog, going to be 'effin Moyes.

[Brother Leon]

I wouldn't put Rooney in the Best, Charlton & Law category at all. Looking from the outside, he's a worse player now than when he broke through, but I don't see his all round play week in week out, so maybe he is a much better player and I don't see it. When he broke on to the scene, he looked as though he could be what Messi and Ronaldo have turned into. He was taking teams on, powering through them and finishing.

I'll accept your judgment on his abilities, but I'd be interested to know what older united fans who actually saw best and Charlton play, say about where he fits in your GOAT list.

Of course he isn't better than them or a bigger legend, but in terms of goal scoring there is no option but to put him there. That's what i meant. And considering he was never considered that prolific a scorer it speaks volumes.

[Jesus.]

Of course he isn't better than them or a bigger legend, but in terms of goal scoring there is no option but to put him there. That's what i meant. And considering he was never considered that prolific a scorer it speaks volumes.

Ahh - OK. Fair do's.

[MTVN]

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[Drew.]

sad news about Petrov.. will be an emotional game on Saturday for the Villa

[King Gizzard]

was coming really..no chance he'd have ever played again..on medication now for 2 years

[Drew.]

I think Arsenal should worry the most... their two teams are fighting to avoid relegation. The others have fairly easy/safe teams.

Spurs are definitely worrying the most, they did this last season and flopped a massive lead against of us and we finished above them. Stoke are mathematically still fighting for survival and on their day a hard team to beat at home so it wont be easy for Spurs.. Chelsea are playing against Everton in Moyes possible last game as their manager, they'll be going all out for the win. I think for us Wigan will be quite easy, few days after their FA cup final which if they lose they'll have a classic hangover and wont turn up for the game, our worry is Newcastle.

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/hazard1.png

Hazard through the year, meaning last season. Laughable.

pretty sure this is just a bunch of quotes some of these football twitter accounts come up with :laugh:

[Ryan57]

Spurs are definitely worrying the most, they did this last season and flopped a massive lead against of us and we finished above them. Stoke are mathematically still fighting for survival and on their day a hard team to beat at home so it wont be easy for Spurs.. Chelsea are playing against Everton in Moyes possible last game as their manager, they'll be going all out for the win. I think for us Wigan will be quite easy, few days after their FA cup final which if they lose they'll have a classic hangover and wont turn up for the game, our worry is Newcastle.



pretty sure this is just a bunch of quotes some of these football twitter accounts come up with :laugh:

Doesn't seem so. Just googling for quotes now and, whilst I haven't googled them all, I'm seeing the quotes on the net. The Manchester and Chelsea one we already knew. Have looked up the Vermaelen one and he said that. Also the Spurs one.

Edit: And the Milan and Inter one. He's this kind of tw@t lol, so I suspect he did say all that.

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The English Eden Hazard.

[bbfan1991]

So what if Rooney does not have Man Utd player on his profile? Rio Ferdinand has never had it nor does Tom Cleverley and David De Gea etc.

Tom Cleverley and Rooney both done some work for Nike recently so I suspect it is for PR reasons because on Rooney's account sometimes his PR team do certain tweets, so you can tell when Rooney is tweeting himself e.g. replying to someone etc or his management is promoting something.

PS shame that Stan Petrov has retired from Football:(. I wish him all the best with what he does next and hope he gets well soon!

[Jesus.]

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[Ryan57]

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2013/5/9/1368106035465/Manchester-United-Faceboo-008.jpg

Can you resign, please? kthxbai.

[Brother Leon]

Don't even know why Liverpool fans are so happy. Not like Rodgers came to Liverpool as Barcelona manager. Let's hope we send you down to 8th as we take 7th ;)

[bbfan1991]

United still have not confirmed anything, that PR fail will end up in some people being told off:joker:.

He was not who I wanted, but now it is almost confirmed I can put that to one side and back him when United finally make a statement!

[Alf]

Can you resign, please? kthxbai.
Take of your thank you Sir Alex sig, because he was the one who recommended Moyes, and you don't have confidence in Ferguson's judgement, infact you believe your judgement of whats best for Manchester United, is better than Ferguson's judgement.

[Ryan57]

Take of your thank you Sir Alex sig, because he was the one who recommended Moyes, and you don't have confidence in Ferguson's judgement, infact you believe your judgement of whats best for Manchester United, is better than Ferguson's judgement.

Do calm down. I have never agreed with Fergie on everything. Just like I doubt anyone else has (unless they're totally up his ass). This is because it's opinion. Seemingly, you are unable to accept that I don't want Moyes as United's next manager.

My opinion. That is all this is.

I guess that nobody should thank Sir Alex if they disagree with him on anything. Especially Moyes being the replacement? No... 'have a word with yourself'.

[Jesus.]

Don't even know why Liverpool fans are so happy. Not like Rodgers came to Liverpool as Barcelona manager. Let's hope we send you down to 8th as we take 7th ;)

We were never able shop in the same places you could, yet I think you've made a really poor appointment. I think Moyes has been completely overrated for a few years, and I hope he's your Souness.

I don't expect much to be different next season, but the season after that we'll start to see what he's made of.

[Ryan57]

We were never able shop in the same places you could, yet I think you've made a really poor appointment. I think Moyes has been completely overrated for a few years, and I hope he's your Souness.

I don't expect much to be different next season, but the season after that we'll start to see what he's made of.

Really? I think if Jose returns then we'll really see what Moyes is made of. Jose is, after all, the only manager ever to get to Fergie.
That and, whilst it's a good squad, it needs some TLC.

[Jesus.]

Take of your thank you Sir Alex sig, because he was the one who recommended Moyes, and you don't have confidence in Ferguson's judgement, infact you believe your judgement of whats best for Manchester United, is better than Ferguson's judgement.

I see Martinez is the favourite for your job.


Jesus knows.

[Jesus.]

Really? I think if Jose returns then we'll really see what Moyes is made of. Jose is, after all, the only manager ever to get to Fergie.
That and, whilst it's a good squad, it needs some TLC.

I think autopilot will get them through for a season, but that's when the major rebuild will need to be done. The good thing from my POV, is that whiskey nose was given 7 years, so he will be calling for patience as you trickle down the league.

I'm going to be so ******ing gutted if he turns out to be great.

[Alf]

Do calm down. I have never agreed with Fergie on everything. Just like I doubt anyone else has (unless they're totally up his ass). This is because it's opinion. Seemingly, you are unable to accept that I don't want Moyes as United's next manager.

My opinion. That is all this is.

I guess that nobody should thank Sir Alex if they disagree with him on anything. Especially Moyes being the replacement? No... 'have a word with yourself'.
You have done nothing but put Moyes down, for one reason, he doesn't have champions league experience (but technically he does), maybe if he had the money that Mourinho had to spend he would have won the champions league, maybe if Mourinho had managed Everton with no money to spend, he might not have Champions league experience, at Real madrid, Chelsea and Inter Milan, how many players has Mourinho brought through the juniors and turned them in to International players, none come to my mind, he just goes out and spends top money on top players, where as Moyes i can name some, Rooney, Rodwell, Osman, Coleman he also plucked Jagielka and Lescot from the lower leagues and turned them both in to internationals, who got the best out of Lescot Moyes or Mancini (who has champions league experience, which apparently makes you a better manager)?, who got the best out of Arteta, Moyes or Wenger (who has Champions league experience)? who got the best out of Piennar, Moyes or Redknapp (who has Champions league experience)?
Moyes gets the best out of players, because he's a world class manager, and he will prove that to you very soon, and you'll just look like a dick.

[Jesus.]

You have done nothing but put Moyes down, for one reason, he doesn't have champions league experience (but technically he does), maybe if he had the money that Mourinho had to spend he would have won the champions league, maybe if Mourinho had managed Everton with no money to spend, he might not have Champions league experience, at Real madrid, Chelsea and Inter Milan, how many players has Mourinho brought through the juniors and turned them in to International players, none come to my mind, he just goes out and spends top money on top players, where as Moyes i can name some, Rooney, Rodwell, Osman, Coleman he also plucked Jagielka and Lescot from the lower leagues and turned them both in to internationals, who got the best out of Lescot Moyes or Mancini (who has champions league experience, which apparently makes you a better manager)?, who got the best out of Arteta, Moyes or Wenger (who has Champions league experience)? who got the best out of Piennar, Moyes or Redknapp (who has Champions league experience)?
Moyes gets the best out of players, because he's a world class manager, and he will prove that to you very soon, and you'll just look like a dick.

Just a little perspective. Everton have the 8th highest wage bill in the league. He's not exactly on a shoestring.

[King Gizzard]

and he's one of the highest paid managers, shoestring club is a load of ****

[Ryan57]

I think autopilot will get them through for a season, but that's when the major rebuild will need to be done. The good thing from my POV, is that whiskey nose was given 7 years, so he will be calling for patience as you trickle down the league.

I'm going to be so ******ing gutted if he turns out to be great.

Think it depends on who he signs in central midfield, if anyone. If Jose brings Falcao with him then the title race is basically over.

[Alf]

Just a little perspective. Everton have the 8th highest wage bill in the league. He's not exactly on a shoestring.
And that's down to Moyes managment, and business he's done, the sales of Rooney, Lescot, Arteta, Piennar and many more, and then pretty good recruitment to replace them, and even if they are 8th they're still not able to compete with Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea or Arsenal, lets face it even a club with the size, stature and history as Liverpool cannot compete with these clubs.

[Jesus.]

and he's one of the highest paid managers, shoestring club is a load of ****

Thank you. Everyone believes this myth. Beattie, Koldrup and the rest. He's spunked money up the wall with the best of them.

[Jesus.]

And that's down to Moyes managment, and business he's done, the sales of Rooney, Lescot, Arteta, Piennar and many more, and then pretty good recruitment to replace them, and even if they are 8th they're still not able to compete with Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea or Arsenal, lets face it even a club with the size, stature and history as Liverpool cannot compete with these clubs.

Moyes' management of Rooney was pretty shady from what I remember, and crediting him with selling him is nonsense. He's made some astute signings over the years, I'd never deny it, but lets not pretend he shouldn't be roughly where he is with Everton.

Didn't James Beattie replace Rooney for 8million?

[Locke.]

Don't even know why Liverpool fans are so happy. Not like Rodgers came to Liverpool as Barcelona manager. Let's hope we send you down to 8th as we take 7th ;)

Helps us out in 2 ways. Gives your lot a manager that is unproven at this level, and ****s Everton up a bit aswell. A great couple of days.

[Alf]

Moyes' management of Rooney was pretty shady from what I remember, and crediting him with selling him is nonsense. He's made some astute signings over the years, I'd never deny it, but lets not pretend he shouldn't be roughly where he is with Everton.

Didn't James Beattie replace Rooney for 8million?
Time will tell, and I'm usually right, looks like the people involved at Manchester United agree with me, and think Moyes is the best man for the job, but what do they know?

[Jesus.]

Time will tell, and I'm usually right, looks like the people involved at Manchester United agree with me, and think Moyes is the best man for the job, but what do they know?

That's irrelevant. Previous good decision making doesn't rule out a bad decision ever being made.

Liverpool made the right managerial appointments for decades, but it only took one wrong decision to bring it all crashing down.

[Ryan57]

You have done nothing but put Moyes down, for one reason, he doesn't have champions league experience (but technically he does), maybe if he had the money that Mourinho had to spend he would have won the champions league, maybe if Mourinho had managed Everton with no money to spend, he might not have Champions league experience, at Real madrid, Chelsea and Inter Milan, how many players has Mourinho brought through the juniors and turned them in to International players, none come to my mind, he just goes out and spends top money on top players, where as Moyes i can name some, Rooney, Rodwell, Osman, Coleman he also plucked Jagielka and Lescot from the lower leagues and turned them both in to internationals, who got the best out of Lescot Moyes or Mancini (who has champions league experience, which apparently makes you a better manager)?, who got the best out of Arteta, Moyes or Wenger (who has Champions league experience)? who got the best out of Piennar, Moyes or Redknapp (who has Champions league experience)?
Moyes gets the best out of players, because he's a world class manager, and he will prove that to you very soon, and you'll just look like a dick.

Lmao!

First of all, please use paragraphs. (That isn't mickey taking just makes it a tad hard to read a wall of text as they say)
Second of all, where to start in your post deary me.

That isn't the only reason I don't want Moyes for the job at all. For one, I doubt if he can win a Premier League title. Especially with Jose on his way back to Chelsea. Second of all, I'm not entirely convinced by his style of play.

In regards to you wheeling off players...

Rooney was at his best in 2009/10. And Rooney's best form apart from that was at Euro 2004 really. I believe Rooney departed partly due to Moyes not playing him as much as he wanted. Rooney's best form wasn't under David Moyes. That is for sure.

Rodwell, you sold him when he couldn't even get in your team. He was a decent talent a couple of years back but he's not nothing to write home about and wasn't in his latter days at Everton.

Osman, sorry but, how this guy gets in the England team is beyond me. Sums up how **** we are. Guess he got the best out of him, not that there's much there anyway. Maybe give you that one.

Coleman, haven't seen him a whole lot so sharnt comment.

Jagielka, yes, very good player. Definitely should be in the England squad more.

Lescott, well he had a very good campaign last season. Unlucky for him that he was ousted from the starting XI.

Arteta has been a good signing for Arsenal. His best days were at Everton but he wasn't as good in his latter days at Everton.

Pienaar, give you that one.


Now, it seems you're getting a little butt hurt. It's my opinion. You have a crystal ball do you? You know for sure this guy is going to come in and do brilliantly? No.

The issue here is, you can't accept that my opinion is different. I don't think Moyes is good enough. If he turns out to be though, I will come on here and, gladly, say I was wrong.

Oh, and let's not use youth players that have gone on to play for their international teams and then name English players. Anyone can get in that England team judging by who Woy picks.

[Drew.]

in all fairness Ryan, Osman has been very good.. hes got something about him not many other English players have.

[Ryan57]

in all fairness Ryan, Osman has been very good.. hes got something about him not many other English players have.

Sums up England when we give a debut to a 31 year old. I'm sure the whole of the world will fear us if he gets in the 2014 England squad.

[Brother Leon]

May not be shoestring budget, but he's still worked wonders with what he has. If it wasn't for clubs like City and Chelsea getting Mafia owners and spending Monopoly money then chances are he leads Everton to CL a lot more imo.

[Alf]

Lmao!

First of all, please use paragraphs. (That isn't mickey taking just makes it a tad hard to read a wall of text as they say)
Second of all, where to start in your post deary me.

That isn't the only reason I don't want Moyes for the job at all. For one, I doubt if he can win a Premier League title. Especially with Jose on his way back to Chelsea. Second of all, I'm not entirely convinced by his style of play.

In regards to you wheeling off players...

Rooney was at his best in 2009/10. And Rooney's best form apart from that was at Euro 2004 really. I believe Rooney departed partly due to Moyes not playing him as much as he wanted. Rooney's best form wasn't under David Moyes. That is for sure.

Rodwell, you sold him when he couldn't even get in your team. He was a decent talent a couple of years back but he's not nothing to write home about and wasn't in his latter days at Everton.

Osman, sorry but, how this guy gets in the England team is beyond me. Sums up how **** we are. Guess he got the best out of him, not that there's much there anyway. Maybe give you that one.

Coleman, haven't seen him a whole lot so sharnt comment.

Jagielka, yes, very good player. Definitely should be in the England squad more.

Lescott, well he had a very good campaign last season. Unlucky for him that he was ousted from the starting XI.

Arteta has been a good signing for Arsenal. His best days were at Everton but he wasn't as good in his latter days at Everton.

Pienaar, give you that one.


Now, it seems you're getting a little butt hurt. It's my opinion. You have a crystal ball do you? You know for sure this guy is going to come in and do brilliantly? No.

The issue here is, you can't accept that my opinion is different. I don't think Moyes is good enough. If he turns out to be though, I will come on here and, gladly, say I was wrong.

Oh, and let's not use youth players that have gone on to play for their international teams and then name English players. Anyone can get in that England team judging by who Woy picks.
Not getting hurt at all, I'm enjoying it, I'm just sticking up for Moyes because as an Everton fan have seen what he's about over the past 10 + years, he's not won a single trophy but to me and most Everton fans he's a legend, because we know in reality we have very, very little chance of winning a trophy, but what he has done, he's give the club stability, he's made us a consistent top half club, which in Todays game of ridiculous money is great achievement.
If you want me to write in paragraphs, then you spell your words right, because lmao is not a word.

[Locke.]

Also worth pointing out that Moyes is the only Everton manager never to win at Anfield, when we've not exactly been great the last few years.

Long may his record continue.

[Drew.]

Sums up England when we give a debut to a 31 year old. I'm sure the whole of the world will fear us if he gets in the 2014 England squad.

now we're talking about the England manager.. :laugh:

Moyes does well with the players in his squad that have quality, lets be honest pretty much every United player has quality and so i think he will work well with them and do a good job.

[Drew.]

yeah, his record against the so called top 4 is absolutely terrible.

[Ryan57]

Not getting hurt at all, I'm enjoying it, I'm just sticking up for Moyes because as an Everton fan have seen what he's about over the past 10 + years, he's not won a single trophy but to me and most Everton fans he's a legend, because we know in reality we have very, very little chance of winning a trophy, but what he has done, he's give the club stability, he's made us a consistent top half club, which in Todays game of ridiculous money is great achievement.
If you want me to write in paragraphs, then you spell your words right, because lmao is not a word.

I understand the like for Moyes. Opinions differ, however.

[Ryan57]

now we're talking about the England manager.. :laugh:

Moyes does well with the players in his squad that have quality, lets be honest pretty much every United player has quality and so i think he will work well with them and do a good job.

Agree with this, until we enter the midfield area. In which we have such dire options.

[Drew.]

when i say pretty much every United player has quality.. some have potential like Cleverley, but havent shown all the quality they are capable of

[Jesus.]

Moyes will show everyone just how overrated Cleverly is, next season.

[Alf]

yeah, his record against the so called top four is absolutely terrible.
How many managers do have great records against the so called top 4 clubs?

This season against
Manchester United - won 1 lost 1
Manchester City - won 1 drew 1
Chelsea - lost 1
Arsenal - drew 2

I'm assuming there the big four you talk of?

[Drew.]

How many managers do have great records against the so called top 4 clubs?

This season against
Manchester United - won 1 lost 1
Manchester City - won 1 drew 1
Chelsea - lost 1
Arsenal - drew 2

I'm assuming there the big four you talk of?

'Moyes has still to taste the satisfaction of a league victory at one of the quartet of clubs – Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United'

you'd expect him to have won away to one of those teams in 11 years

[Alf]

'Moyes has still to taste the satisfaction of a league victory at one of the quartet of clubs – Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United'

you'd expect him to have won away to one of those teams in 11 years
He does have beating Manchester United in knockout football (FA cup) on his cv

[Brother Leon]

yeah, his record against the so called top 4 is absolutely terrible.

Does ok against Chelsea and City and we have the players to deal with Suarez and Liverpool either way. Not too worried.


Moyes will show everyone just how overrated Cleverly is, next season.

This logic can be applied to most of our squad next season I imagine. Not even Mourinho can motivate players to be hungry for success like Sir Alex does.

[Drew.]

its something like 40 odd games hes played against them and not won any away.. the stat shocked me but you'd expect this to change next season now hes in charge of United.

[Alf]

Devastated to lose Moyes for selfish reasons, but delighted for him personally because he deserves more than anyone else this opportunity to show the World just what a great manager he is.

[Drew.]

who do you want to replace him?

[Alf]

who do you want to replace him?
Don't know, he's gonna be hard to replace

I'll say Martinez is a worthy favourite, O'Neill although recently not been that successful, he does have the credentials to keep us competitive, I like what Malky Makay has done in his short career so far and I'll throw in a wild shout, Darren Ferguson.

[bbfan1991]

Mark Hughes has expressed an interest too.

[Alf]

Mark Hughes has expressed an interest too.
Not that keen on him, doesn't have much personality, and his cv isn't that great.

[Ryan57]

when i say pretty much every United player has quality.. some have potential like Cleverley, but havent shown all the quality they are capable of

Potential to pass the ball ten yards maybe. Be a stretch for Tom. Passing it forward still has the lad quaking in his boots.

Moyes will show everyone just how overrated Cleverly is, next season.

Overrated? Is he even rated that highly? I don't count being in the England squad as anyone can get in it with useless Woy in charge. :idc:

[Drew.]

Don't know, he's gonna be hard to replace

I'll say Martinez is a worthy favourite, O'Neill although recently not been that successful, he does have the credentials to keep us competitive, I like what Malky Makay has done in his short career so far and I'll throw in a wild shout, Darren Ferguson.

id say Martinez is a good shout, although after 4 years he still hasn't managed the club to be able to defend well which is quite worrying, would like to see Di Matteo given a go.

[King Gizzard]

Poyet

[Drew.]

Gus will guide the mighty seagulls to the PL

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/Dp4QAoU.jpg

[Drew.]

i dont know who i want to win from Watford and Leicester.

[King Gizzard]

time for Vydra to get back on track

[Drew.]

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/63256000/jpg/_63256035_knockaert.jpg

[King Gizzard]

http://i.imgur.com/Uxcxvzu.jpg

[Ryan57]

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article716225.ece/ALTERNATES/gallery-large/almunia-wenger-fawlty-towers-arsenal-cropped

[bbfan1991]

Even though there are some young United lads playing for Leicester I would prefer a Watford win...

[bbfan1991]

Neil Lennon being heavily linked with the Everton vacant Managers job...

[bbfan1991]

1-0 to Leicester City- David Nugent:bored:.

[Ryan57]

Daily Star saying Moyes has had death threats over his appointment as #mufc manager.

No, they weren't from me. :suspect:

[King Gizzard]

everyone gets death threats tbh..just because he's now a figure in the headline news

[King Gizzard]

it's probably just some idiotic united fans or everton fans saying ''i hope u die u ****'' on twitter

[Ryan57]

it's probably just some idiotic united fans or everton fans saying ''i hope u die u ****'' on twitter

Not sure which set of fans it's from.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ2jix1CMAA9BPB.jpg

Totally couldn't give a toss for that article now I've seen Amanda Holden at the top.

[Brother Leon]

Moyes>Amanda tbh. What a specimen.

[Shaun]

ew amanda holden. srsly ryan? :p

hmm, leicester weren't that convincing. but whoever wins can just lose to brighton so idc

[Drew.]

so excited for the game tomorrow night. Seaagullllss

[Brother Leon]

Zaha going to send Brighton home.

[Ryan57]

Shaun, G T F O. She is immense for her age. Best thing about BGT this series has been her and Alesha on the panel to look at.

Along with David and Simon being funny. Infact, the panel has been better than the acts.

[King Gizzard]

BGT is **** and Amanda is vermin

[Shaun]

she's alright I suppose but I've got this general sense of pointlessness about her... not a good actress, not funny, not that good looking.

[Novo]

This Moyes press conference in an hour should be interesting

[King Gizzard]

This Moyes press conference in an hour should be interesting

if it's similar to the newspaper one, apparently he just straight up didn't answer any united questions

[King Gizzard]

she's alright I suppose but I've got this general sense of pointlessness about her... not a good actress, not funny, not that good looking.

and incredibly shallow

[Drew.]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ybpjESi9jTE/UCeSa2bYkoI/AAAAAAAAA0c/WXxgFd9aRR4/s1600/Poyet+Brighton.jpg

[Drew.]

'Spanish and Portuguese publications AS and Récord both claim his family's desire to move to London as the reason Mourinho turned United down'

so apparently he was Uniteds first choice but turned them down, wow. Him and his family really must want to return to Chelsea

[Marcus.]

want c place to lose

[bbfan1991]

'Spanish and Portuguese publications AS and Récord both claim his family's desire to move to London as the reason Mourinho turned United down'

so apparently he was Uniteds first choice but turned them down, wow. Him and his family really must want to return to Chelsea

Sir Bobby was strongly against Jose taking over anyway, but I can see why Jose wants to go back to Chelsea and I do genuinely think that SAF wanted David Moyes to replace him...

[Brother Leon]

Well Rooney is off. This is one of the few times we actually have to fight for every penny. **** selling for cheap like we usually do.

[bbfan1991]

He trolled everyone:joker:. I was kind of hoping he would dismiss the rumours but not to be, wrong choice Wayne although Coleen has been getting lots of abuse tweeted at he when he never had ''Manchester United player'' on his Twitter bio all due to some fans getting annoyed at something that was never there!

If he does go then i'm hoping it is abroad.

[King Gizzard]

pretty amateurish statement

[Drew.]

Well Rooney is off. This is one of the few times we actually have to fight for every penny. **** selling for cheap like we usually do.

how comes your so sure hes leaving? (have been watching the Brighton game and may have missed out on something)

[Brother Leon]

how comes your so sure hes leaving? (have been watching the Brighton game and may have missed out on something)

He released a statement saying he "never had Man United player in his bio" and Nike asked him to put Nike UK Athlete there. Refused to comment on transfer request rumours.

[bbfan1991]

pretty amateurish statement

I suspect Nike were a bit behind it too as to not get caught up in something and to protect their PR image, it only started because some moronic United fans thought he had Manchester United player on his Twitter bio, but removed it recently due to all of these latest stories.

Rooney has never had Man Utd player on his bio, some United players on Twitter don't either but Rooney added Nike UK athlete on there 2 weeks ago. Tom Cleverley has Nike UK athlete on his and Phil Neville, which were added at the same time as him by Nike, which is a coincidence and has caused some people to have a meltdown over nothing in this instance:joker:.

[Drew.]

He released a statement saying he "never had Man United player in his bio" and Nike asked him to put Nike UK Athlete there. Refused to comment on transfer request rumours.

yeah just read it, pretty lame statement to be fair.. the transfer request rumours are far worse and seeing as he didnt comment on them then it does look like its true

[bbfan1991]

The press are inconsistent though because there has been some stories saying that he wants to stay and is reconsidering now Moyes has taken over SAF, so they cannot make their mind up and there is still no definite proof whether there are any truth or not in these rumours.

[King Gizzard]

Zaha is going to be pretty scary if he keeps his head down and works at it when he's about 23/24

[King Gizzard]

so pellegrini's odds to manage City have dropped quite drastically, would love it, don't think I'd hate City so much if it happened

[King Gizzard]

although I'd doubt they'd sack him after they win tomorrow

[Drew.]

Pellegrini 10/1 on to be next Man City manager after a large amount of bets came in and bets from Chile

- Nathan beat me to it

[King Gizzard]

Ouch glenn Murray

[King Gizzard]

my knee hurt watching that

[bbfan1991]

Zaha is going to be pretty scary if he keeps his head down and works at it when he's about 23/24

He has a bright future for sure and seems level headed, so I hope he continues to improve and work on his weaknesses too.

He will be gutted not to actually play under Sir Alex Ferguson, but he also has the honour of being his last ever Manchester United signing:).