Doctor Who: Series 10 - Discussion Thread [13TH DOCTOR REVEALED]

[Saph]

I've just finished season 6, the stories definitely aren't as good after the 5th series, I miss the days when each episode was a new story, there's too many confusing (and boring) twists that keep overlapping each other and it just gets too tedious after a while.

simple but effective twists and stories like bad wolf or the crack in amys room are the best ones

[Greg!]

It's all downhill from there I'm afraid to say. It's been mostly ****e for about 5 years

[Oaker]

I agree about Series 6/7 being crap but the Capaldi series have actually been pretty good so far?

They're much less complicated and most of the stories are at least above average

[Saph]

like the season 6 finale with time stopping and that 'oh actually hes not dead' moment it was just a bit of a mess

when you compare it to eps like Turn Left, that had everything that was good about the show, yet it wasnt over-complicated

[Greg!]

Yeah. They'd get a sh*t load of media coverage if they cast a German dwarf too. Doesn't make it a good choice love.

You still haven't explained why casting a black woman would be a bad choice to be honest hunni x

[Greg!]

like the season 6 finale with time stopping and that 'oh actually hes not dead' moment it was just a bit of a mess

when you compare it to eps like Turn Left, that had everything that was good about the show, yet it wasnt over-complicated

Series 4 was amazing. Donna :love:

[Marsh.]

You still haven't explained why casting a black woman would be a bad choice to be honest hunni x
I never said it was a bad choice hunty

My posts were laughing at the fact you said it would be the casting of a black woman that will save the show and make it popular.

[Marsh.]

If anything it would face backlash.

Remenber all of the uproar when the little teen girls got an old man and not a Matt Smith they could spaff over on tumblr? They'd do that again over a woman.

[Greg!]

I didn't say it would definitely save the show and make it more popular, but let's be honest the ratings have been declining for years and picking another safe choice (aka a White guy for their 13th time) won't reignite interest. They may as well take a risk is all I'm saying. Also they could just pick a hot guy for the companion if they want to keep the horny little teen gals and gays on board

[Morgan.]

http://buff.ly/2mwPrrK

News on the cybermen.

[Pete.]

I live :clap1:

Does this mean the Cybus Cybermen are dead and buried :fc:

[Marsh.]

I didn't say it would definitely save the show and make it more popular, but let's be honest the ratings have been declining for years and picking another safe choice (aka a White guy for their 13th time) won't reignite interest. They may as well take a risk is all I'm saying. Also they could just pick a hot guy for the companion if they want to keep the horny little teen gals and gays on board
A risk yeah but a black gal? Why specifically a black gal?

[Scarlett.]

Fingers crossed for a good Cybermen story at last!

[Marsh.]

A good story full stop would suffice for me. :(

[Saph]

A good story full stop would suffice for me. :(

lol tbh

[Marsh.]

Aww what a nice gift for Capaldi though. Didn't he say the originals were his favourite.

[Rob!]

Omg I've never seen this before :laugh2:

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[Rob!]

Also so so here for the Mondasian Cybermen :flutter:

[Marsh.]

Omg I've never seen this before :laugh2:

giaMRyn47Xg
I remember that. :joker:

:clap1:

[Lostie!]

http://buff.ly/2mwPrrK

News on the cybermen.

:amazed:

Every time they've announced a Cyberman story I've been hoping for these creepy bastards :clap1:

[Rob!]

I hope this finally means a decent Cybermen story. I can't even remember when they actually had a decent story to themselves.

[Marsh.]

Omg I've never seen this before :laugh2:

giaMRyn47Xg

I've only just noticed the reference to the emails which make up the Writer's Tale book. :joker:

[user104658]

I've only just watched both of the Capaldi seasons... I actually liked him more than I thought I was going to... got a bit sick of Clara "definitely dying this time" every second episode.

Also I'm already 100% convinced that I'm going to find the new assistant irritating as **** based on the 10 seconds of clips shown at the end of the Christmas special.

[user104658]

And pretty convinced the next doctor, or at least the one after that, will be female. They've hammered home the point that "gender switching" is a thing with "Missy" + the general on Gallifrey, who was an older man and regenerated into a woman, and commented hinting that she was "usually" a woman and had found it strange being a man. They're definitely gearing up for FemmeDoc.

[Glenn.]

Leaked s10 trailer
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/leaked-series-10-new-trailer-83421.htm

[Marsh.]

OMFG

Missy rocking the Helena Bonham Carter look. :amazed:

[Glenn.]

It actually looks like it's going to be a rather good series. That creepy statue thing though, Weeping Angel?

[Marsh.]

Not at all liking the look of that daft emoji episode.

[Oaker]

Not at all liking the look of that daft emoji episode.

And it's written by the same person who wrote that awful forest episode a couple of years ago :omgno:

[Lostie!]

I keep forgetting to watch the Christmas episode

[Firewire]

Bill doesn't seem even remotely interesting

[Marsh.]

I like that she's a bit eccentric in a show where the alien with two hearts should be the eccentric one.

But if she's written like Moffat's other companions she won't generate much interest from me.

[AProducer'sWetDream]

:clap1: Looks fun! Although I definitely feel like Moffat's heart isn't in it any more (and hasn't been for a while). I also hope Missy features a lot more this year- she works really well with Capaldi's Doctor and it would be nice to have her end 12 after being there from his first episode.

[Lostie!]

That brief Cyberman shot though :flutter:

[Rob!]

https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeBaker26/status/840470205184782336/video/1

Working link to the new trailer

Omg :flutter:

That Dalek woman thing looks creepy. The ice warriors are back too.

[Will.]

Wow, it looks really good!

[Lostie!]

So is Matt Lucas a full-time companion for series 10? I thought he was returning for a one-off.

[Rob!]

So is Matt Lucas a full-time companion for series 10? I thought he was returning for a one-off.

Yeah apparently he's there for season 10. Not sure how I feel about that because he was pretty pointless at Christmas.

[Rob!]

The mondasian cybermen look so good omg

[Greg!]

Oh wow that trailer is so good

[Firewire]

So is Matt Lucas a full-time companion for series 10? I thought he was returning for a one-off.

Yeah but he's not in every episode, sort of like Rory in series 5

[Greg!]

Oh Matt Lucas needs to **** off

[Greg!]

I like him but he's annoying on this show

[Denver]

Am i the only one who thinks Bill seems a bit dull?

[Denver]

Phoebe Waller-Bridge has come out of nowhere with the bookies and is now 3rd favourite to be the next Doctor

[Denver]

3 of the top 4 favourites are women and the 5th is a black male so possible they may go for something new

[Rob!]

That trailer has now been officially released.

Apparently the first episode has been "confirmed" to be (though I haven't seen any confirmations anywhere) called The Pilot.

I preferred "A Star in her Eye" but hey ho. Magican's Apprentice was a lousy title and that was a phenomenal episode.

[Marsh.]

I thought The Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar were good titles. :nono:

I was disappointed they weren't literal titles. :mad:

Witch Missy stroking a black pussy. :love:

[Rob!]

I thought The Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar were good titles. :nono:

I was disappointed they weren't literal titles. :mad:

Witch Missy stroking a black pussy. :love:

Disgusting :nono:

[Rob!]

I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

[Marsh.]

I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

pISS OFF

She's better than John Simm and that's all that matters. :nono:

But she probably will as she will largely be associated with Peter Capaldi's era.

Maybe the Master/Doctor will be a big plot point this season and will regenerate together?

[Rob!]

pISS OFF

She's better than John Simm and that's all that matters. :nono:

But she probably will as she will largely be associated with Peter Capaldi's era.

Maybe the Master/Doctor will be a big plot point this season and will regenerate together?

Oh trust me, I'm in no way debating that.

But if you look at the history of the character, Missy is the only Master that has ever gone about claiming that The Doctor and the Master are friends. I don't see any particular menace with Missy. She's more Puck than Iago.

[Marsh.]

Oh trust me, I'm in no way debating that.

But if you look at the history of the character, Missy is the only Master that has ever gone about claiming that The Doctor and the Master are friends. I don't see any particular menace with Missy. She's more Puck than Iago.

Oh I thought she did menace well in the season 8 finale.

A psycho menace. They kind of made her a bit too "pally" I suppose in season 9.

[Glenn.]

I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

I thought this too. It would be kinda like a reset for Chibnall should he want a Master story.

[Marsh.]

I'm kind of sick of the Master/Daleks etc I want new monsters.

[Tregard]

This series looks like it's going to do absolutely nothing for me. Moffat will undoubtedly throw several spanners into the work as it's his last horrah, the companions are definitely gone at the end of this run, and it seems like a buffer for the old guard to tie up loose ends before Chinball.

If I'm being brutally honest, I don't think or believe they should cast a female Doctor on this next regeneration. I personally believe the Doctor *after* the next one will likely be female, but this next regeneration will be the first of a new writer who will be completely unproven and will be coming off of the wackiness and insanity of Moffat's arc, they will save something as significant as a female Doctor for later down the line. (Although FWIW, Vicky McClure seems like a good pick)

I agree Missy should probably also regenerate at the end of the series, even if we don't see the outcome. Chinball is going to need as clean a slate as possible to work from. I think this series is going to be largely overshadowed with speculation of the next series, unfortunately.

[Rob!]

This series looks like it's going to do absolutely nothing for me. Moffat will undoubtedly throw several spanners into the work as it's his last horrah, the companions are definitely gone at the end of this run, and it seems like a buffer for the old guard to tie up loose ends before Chinball.

If I'm being brutally honest, I don't think or believe they should cast a female Doctor on this next regeneration. I personally believe the Doctor *after* the next one will likely be female, but this next regeneration will be the first of a new writer who will be completely unproven and will be coming off of the wackiness and insanity of Moffat's arc, they will save something as significant as a female Doctor for later down the line. (Although FWIW, Vicky McClure seems like a good pick)

I agree Missy should probably also regenerate at the end of the series, even if we don't see the outcome. Chinball is going to need as clean a slate as possible to work from. I think this series is going to be largely overshadowed with speculation of the next series, unfortunately.

Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one for brand new viewers which seems ironic with it being his last considering not one of his series apart from possibly 5 have been suitable for new viewers

[Marsh.]

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:joker:

[Marsh.]

Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one

I'll be the judge of that...

http://68.media.tumblr.com/447100698b35a5369134d161e9dd253d/tumblr_nzmhb994kR1uvazy3o1_500.gif

[user104658]

Moffat has catogorically stated that this series is an excellent one for brand new viewers which seems ironic with it being his last considering not one of his series apart from possibly 5 have been suitable for new viewers
Don't like the sound of that personally :hmph:. If they're catering to new viewers it means that they will either totally avoid making many references to past seasons (which is a shame in a show with so much history) OR whenever something history comes up they will have someone explaining it to "the new companion" (a conduit for new viewers) in tedious simple reams, which could get really boring. I'm already concerned about this new companion. As soon as I saw her I got a CBBC presenter vibe and then they showed the actual clips at Christmas :umm2:.

"The TARDIS is badly damaged!"
"OK well first we're going to need some sticky-backed plastic... "

[GoldHeart]

If the Doctor regenerates into a woman then I'm done watching !! And I won't bother with the show anymore , I'll lose interest and stop watching it completely. I don't care if she'll be the best actress it just still wouldn't work :bored: .

And I can see they keep teasing that a female might get cast as the new Doctor and I think it will be ridiculous and the wrong decision.

It's bad enough the Master turned into Missy :notimpressed: , so the Doctor should stay a man ( and I'm a woman myself but I just think it would ruin things) .

[Saph]

im watching season 7 atm, its already a lot better then s6

and yeah the doctor wouldnt work as a woman at all..

[Saph]

the ice warrior ep and the ghost one were creepy but so good

[Marsh.]

If the Doctor regenerates into a woman then I'm done watching !! And I won't bother with the show anymore , I'll lose interest and stop watching it completely. I don't care if she'll be the best actress it just still wouldn't work :bored: .

And I can see they keep teasing that a female might get cast as the new Doctor and I think it will be ridiculous and the wrong decision.

It's bad enough the Master turned into Missy :notimpressed: , so the Doctor should stay a man ( and I'm a woman myself but I just think it would ruin things) .
How would it ruin things?

People are entitled to prefer the things they prefer but I've yet to see a reason why it's such a bad thing.

At least as an experiment. Let's face it DW has always took chances and it's still one of the top shows 54 years later despite the odd unpopular companion or badly cast Doctor or plain bad eras.

[Sticks]

They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

[GoldHeart]

KoHow would it ruin things?

People are entitled to prefer the things they prefer but I've yet to see a reason why it's such a bad thing.

At least as an experiment. Let's face it DW has always took chances and it's still one of the top shows 54 years later despite the odd unpopular companion or badly cast Doctor or plain bad eras.

I can guarantee DW will lose a lot of fans if they make that decision :nono: . Especially alot of male fans who see themselves in the Doctor's shoes he's their hero .

They've already lost fans due to people not liking Actors like Matt Smith & Peter Capaldi :shrug: but that's always going to happen as you can't please everyone but atleast they were MALE Actors . I personally think David Tennant was the one to beat as he left such big shoes to fill , Matt Smith did it perfectly .

Peter Capaldi is however different & very serious but I gradually got use to him , but I just think it will be ridiculous if the doctor becomes a WOMAN. It's my opinion and I think the show will go downhill no matter how good the actress might be , that's another thing I think they'll pick the wrong person too :facepalm: .

[user104658]

I don't think I'll mind a female doctor if they play the role well, I'd probably get used to it. I actually didn't think I'd like Capaldi but have thus far enjoyed his stint :shrug:.

That said, from a sci-fi standpoint, and because I don't like Canon being altered in ways that were clearly not intended (from a writing point of view it grates for me), I don't particularly like that they've blatantly changed the regeneration "rules". In my opinion the timelords were clearly originally written as having a fixed gender, and that's been reconsidered recently and changed. If it had been that way from the start, fine, but it obviously wasn't. It also doesn't make sense that the doctor would have regenerated a dozen times and been male every time thus far. Statistically unlikely, surely.

[Marsh.]

Ko

I can guarantee DW will lose a lot of fans if they make that decision :nono: . Especially alot of male fans who see themselves in the Doctor's shoes he's their hero .

So then they're sexist creeps. If the only argument against is "The Doctor should just be a man" then that's not enough reason. :shrug:

The show has a lot of female fans too.


They've already lost fans due to people not liking Actors like Matt Smith & Peter Capaldi :shrug: but that's always going to happen as you can't please everyone but atleast they were MALE Actors . I personally think David Tennant was the one to beat as he left such big shoes to fill , Matt Smith did it perfectly . .

But again, why is having a female actor so bad?
There are always going to be viewers who don't like a particular era of the show, and others who do. That goes for every series, Doctor, companion etc. Always happens.

Like you just said you felt Matt Smith did it perfectly, I personally wasn't a fan.


Peter Capaldi is however different & very serious but I gradually got use to him , but I just think it will be ridiculous if the doctor becomes a WOMAN. It's my opinion and I think the show will go downhill no matter how good the actress might be , that's another thing I think they'll pick the wrong person too :facepalm: .

Well, them choosing the wrong actor is another thing entirely. I was asking why a woman is so bad? We've had various/Doctors of ages and styles.

If the only argument for a male Doctor is "Because they've always been men" then that's not strong enough IMO because that would've been like them not casting Peter Davison because at that point "he's always been old".

[Marsh.]

I don't think I'll mind a female doctor if they play the role well, I'd probably get used to it. I actually didn't think I'd like Capaldi but have thus far enjoyed his stint :shrug:.

That said, from a sci-fi standpoint, and because I don't like Canon being altered in ways that were clearly not intended (from a writing point of view it grates for me), I don't particularly like that they've blatantly changed the regeneration "rules". In my opinion the timelords were clearly originally written as having a fixed gender, and that's been reconsidered recently and changed. If it had been that way from the start, fine, but it obviously wasn't. It also doesn't make sense that the doctor would have regenerated a dozen times and been male every time thus far. Statistically unlikely, surely.

And they've changed more than that. Now he can take on the faces of people he's known in the past. :joker:

[Jarrod]

They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

Your "cancellation" posts are really silly. BBC wouldn't go through the effort of commissioning a new series and hiring a brand new show runner for it to be cancelled. Doctor Who still gets 7 Million+ a night and has massive appeal around the world.

[Marsh.]

Here for the Doctor to start seriously missing Donna before he regenerates and take on her face. :smug:

The Doctor can still be male, just with Donna's face.

How do people feel about an androgynous Doctor? :think:

[Marsh.]

They should have one who is a ginger at last

Assuming there is a new Doctor and the show is not cancelled...:whistle:

Yeah, cancel one of their most popular shows and one of their biggest worldwide brands. That makes lots of sense. :whistle:

[GoldHeart]

And they've changed more than that. Now he can take on the faces of people he's known in the past. :joker:

Yeah alot of the rules have changed . He's took on faces he's known in the past to explain why Capaldi got picked :joker: because he got saved in the Pompeii episode back in season 4 .

Time Lords are all men , why would he suddenly be a woman now?? It would be confusing. I know they can regenerate into anyone but he should stay a man.

[Marsh.]

Time Lords are all men , why would he suddenly be a woman now??

Why would the Master?

Why would he go from 70+ years old in appearance to 50s, then to 40s then 30s, then late 20s and then early 60s?

Why does the Tardis interior frequently completely transform?

This is Doctor Who there is no reason or canon plot facts to stop him being female.

Another Timelord other than the Master also became a woman in the series 9 finale.

Time Lords have also NEVER been all men. There were Time Ladies in the original series.

[GoldHeart]

Why would the Master?

Why would he go from 70+ years old in appearance to 50s, then to 40s then 30s, then late 20s and then early 60s?

Why does the Tardis interior frequently completely transform?

This is Doctor Who there is no reason or canon plot facts to stop him being female.

Another Timelord other than the Master also became a woman in the series 9 finale.

Time Lords have also NEVER been all men. There were Time Ladies in the original series.

Who else became a woman in series 9 ???? I'm lost now :conf:.

Changing the Doctor's age is completely different , I've noticed though there's all this fuss about the Doctor being a woman but no mention of changing the Doctor's ethnicity ? :think: I'd find that interesting if he became a Black man or Hispanic man . But people would rather have a woman which I find strange .

[Marsh.]

Changing the Doctor's age is completely different , I've noticed though there's all this fuss about the Doctor being a woman but no mention of changing the Doctor's ethnicity ? :think: I'd find that interesting if he became a Black man or Hispanic man . But people would rather have a woman which I find strange .

No mention? :joker:

It may depend where you look but people have been questioning why he hasn't been played by a black actor for years.

I don't particular want/need an ethnic actor or a female actor to play the Doctor. If it turned out to be another white male I wouldn't be particularly bothered but I also wouldn't be against an ethnic or female Doctor because there is really no need to be IMO.

Who else became a woman in series 9 ???? I'm lost now :conf:..

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I forgot it was a BLACK woman too. :joker:

[Marsh.]

I was disappointed though as I thought Ken Bones was great and wanted to see more of him.

[GoldHeart]

[QUOTE=Marsh.;9251897]No mention? :joker:

It may depend where you look but people have been questioning why he hasn't been played by a black actor for years.

I don't particular want/need an ethnic actor or a female actor to play the Doctor. If it turned out to be another white male I wouldn't be particularly bothered but I also wouldn't be against an ethnic or female Doctor because there is really no need to be IMO.






I'd forgotten that :shocked: . All these female regenerations is making more obvious it will probably be a female doctor then seen as they keep finding ways to introduce a different gender :rolleyes: .

I'm not saying the Doctor should be a Black guy but I'd rather he changes ethnicity than Gender just my opinion :idc: .

I can think of a ton of decent male actors who'd fit the role perfectly

[Marsh.]

No mention? :joker:

It may depend where you look but people have been questioning why he hasn't been played by a black actor for years.

I don't particular want/need an ethnic actor or a female actor to play the Doctor. If it turned out to be another white male I wouldn't be particularly bothered but I also wouldn't be against an ethnic or female Doctor because there is really no need to be IMO.






I'd forgotten that :shocked: . All these female regenerations is making more obvious it will probably be a female doctor then seen as they keep finding ways to introduce a different gender :rolleyes: .

I'm not saying the Doctor should be a Black guy but I'd rather he changes ethnicity than Gender just my opinion :idc: .

I can think of a ton of decent male actors who'd fit the role perfectly

I think that was Moffat's way of normalising it or getting the audience used to it happening so the "canon" excuse couldn't be used anymore.

But it's no longer his show going forward so who knows.

[Glenn.]

This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.

[Lostie!]

I'm kind of hoping that Missy regenerates at the end of this season. She's a fantastic character but she isn't the master.

I agree with this. I really enjoy her and Michelle Gomez but I wish she was a separate character. I'd prefer a Master more in the vein of the brief taste we got of Derek Jacobi rather than the more campy, comical portrayals.

[Marsh.]

This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.

There isn't a need. But it's not a problem either.

[Marsh.]

I agree with this. I really enjoy her and Michelle Gomez but I wish she was a separate character. I'd prefer a Master more in the vein of the brief taste we got of Derek Jacobi rather than the more campy, comical portrayals.

But as far as campy and comical goes, Gomez strikes the right balance.

I actually feel embarrassed whenever I watch a John Simm episode.

Part of that might have been the production around him though. Him gurning to Rogue Traders. :worry:

[user104658]

This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.

That's my concern too really, that it'll feel "shoehorned in" for effect rather than organic. It DID feel like that with Missy to be honest. Her being a good character saved it, really.

But I do think if they want to explore a bit more diversity, they should go for ethnicity first. It is a bit strange that, with all of humanity as a possibility, he's always not only white, but always British :joker:.

[Marsh.]

If it were America he'd be a mixed race, transgendered sexually fluid Sea God with a missing arm by now.

[Rob!]

But as far as campy and comical goes, Gomez strikes the right balance.

I actually feel embarrassed whenever I watch a John Simm episode.

Part of that might have been the production around him though. Him gurning to Rogue Traders. :worry:

Him screaming "DINNERTIME!!" and flying towards those tramps is literally me when I walk into the gay bar

[Marsh.]

Him screaming "DINNERTIME!!" and flying towards those tramps is literally me when I walk into the gay bar

:joker: :joker: :joker: :joker: :joker:

[GoldHeart]

This whole 'the doctor should be a woman' thing is so boring. If done it would literally be a gimmick. Having the Master regenerate into Missy was gimmicky enough but she's a secondary character.

Why is there such an obsessive need for the Doctor to be a woman? It's not necessary.

:clap1: Exactly .
I'm glad I'm not the only who thinks people are obsessed with the Doctor becoming a woman.

I want him to stay a man and Missy was a weird one to get my head around because I still kept thinking of the Master :bored:

[Lostie!]

But as far as campy and comical goes, Gomez strikes the right balance.

I actually feel embarrassed whenever I watch a John Simm episode.

Part of that might have been the production around him though. Him gurning to Rogue Traders. :worry:

Oh I agree, that's why I really do enjoy Missy as a character in her own right.

[Rob!]

There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
Fingers crossed for Idris Elba :fc:

[Pete.]

The Doctor is an alien from Galifrey so he can turn into whatever because he's not human.

I don't always buy the James Bond argument either considering he was written as a Scottish man but most of his actors have been English...

[GoldHeart]

There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
Fingers crossed for Idris Elba :fc:

:clap1: Thank you
James Bond has to stay male too . The Doctor & James Bond will always be male figures so people need to stop being silly because these characters were written as men so they shouldn't change or mess with it . Idris would be amazing but he's too busy in Hollywood , I'm glad he's so successful though :cheer2:

[Marsh.]

I want him to stay a man and Missy was a weird one to get my head around because I still kept thinking of the Master :bored:

That's a good thing because she is the Master. :hmph:

[Marsh.]

The Doctor is an alien from Galifrey so he can turn into whatever because he's not human.

I don't always buy the James Bond argument either considering he was written as a Scottish man but most of his actors have been English...

This.

James Bond is practically rebooted with each actor.

It's not a science fiction show that bends and changes every rule it makes. :hmph:

[Marsh.]

:clap1: Thank you
James Bond has to stay male too . The Doctor & James Bond will always be male figures so people need to stop being silly because these characters were written as men so they shouldn't change or mess with it . Idris would be amazing but he's too busy in Hollywood , I'm glad he's so successful though :cheer2:

James Bond is a human male so unless he decides to undergo gender reassignment that's not really a valid comparison.

[GoldHeart]

That's a good thing because she is the Master. :hmph:

Is she heck !!!! :laugh3::crazy: she's a twisted version of Mary Poppins on acid !! :facepalm: . I know she's the master but I find it weird .

[Marsh.]

Is she heck !!!! :laugh3::crazy: she's a twisted version of Mary Poppins on acid !! :facepalm: . I know she's the master but I find it weird .

And John Simm didn't look like he was on acid? :crazy:

[GoldHeart]

James Bond is a human male so unless he decides to undergo gender reassignment that's not really a valid comparison.

That makes no difference when you get directors and writers trying to be clever by putting a modern twist on it all :bored: .

They'd probably do something ridiculous and make James retire and his long lost female sister or cousin would take over aka Joan or Janice Bond or something :rolleyes: .

Atleast Super girl being the cousin to Superman worked
( it wasn't the most exciting movie but i didn't mind it too much )

[Marsh.]

I'm glad they're simply a female Time Lord. I always thought Time Lady sounded daft.

[Glenn.]

There really is no need for the Doctor to be play d by a woman, just as there isn't any need for a woman to play James Bond. It's been established he is a male and bowing down to whatever feminist claptrap the media are sprouting is pointless. I'm sure there are several great female actors who could play The Doctor brilliantly but there really is no need at all.
Fingers crossed for Idris Elba :fc:

Preach it

[Marsh.]

Rob wanting a big black cock. Typical.

[Ashley.]

Why are we discussing what is and isn't realistic in regards to a television show about an alien in a flying police box?

[Rob!]

Apparently the Christmas Special is some of Moffat's best work on Doctor Who...

I'll wait and see before getting too excited.

It wasn't.

[user104658]

Why are we discussing what is and isn't realistic in regards to a television show about an alien in a flying police box?

That's the very reason, though. Sci fi and fantasy universes, though often weird and out there, have an established set of rules for that world. Or good ones do, at least. You have to be very careful about changing the rules mid-game, because if you do, you can break the suspension of disbelief that's required to really enjoy those worlds. You change something, the viewer notices "a glitch in the matrix" so to speak, you get pulled back into the real world and suddenly ALL of it becomes obviously ridiculous.

I know these things don't matter much to a lot of viewers but to those of us who get invested in lore, it's important. If you want to change the Canon you better have a dammed good reason, AND a dammed good explanation.

I personally think they missed a perfectly good Sci fi out clause with the doctor. It could have been that, as standard, time Lords are a fixed gender BUT the doctor being gifted a new set of regenerations - which I guess you could think of as "man made" rather than natural - could have introduced any regeneration rule changes they wanted. But too late for that now because they have Missy and the other gender swap regeneration.

[user104658]

It wasn't.

Agreed. All three capaldi Xmas specials have been poor, to be honest.

[Glenn.]

I read on Gallifrey Base that

Susan is back this Christmas, along with David Bradley playing the First Doctor.

[Busterowen2]

Jarrod these are some more of confirmed episode names: The Haunted Hub Extremis and The Eaters of Light Episodes 4 6 and 10 :)

[Marsh.]

That's the very reason, though. Sci fi and fantasy universes, though often weird and out there, have an established set of rules for that world. Or good ones do, at least. You have to be very careful about changing the rules mid-game, because if you do, you can break the suspension of disbelief that's required to really enjoy those worlds. You change something, the viewer notices "a glitch in the matrix" so to speak, you get pulled back into the real world and suddenly ALL of it becomes obviously ridiculous.

I know these things don't matter much to a lot of viewers but to those of us who get invested in lore, it's important. If you want to change the Canon you better have a dammed good reason, AND a dammed good explanation.

I personally think they missed a perfectly good Sci fi out clause with the doctor. It could have been that, as standard, time Lords are a fixed gender BUT the doctor being gifted a new set of regenerations - which I guess you could think of as "man made" rather than natural - could have introduced any regeneration rule changes they wanted. But too late for that now because they have Missy and the other gender swap regeneration.
But unlike many other shows Doctor Who rarely has rules and when it does it proceeds to break them as soon as possible.

So imo in-universe rules don't apply.
Especially now we've seen two Time Lord's regenerate into Time Ladies.

[Rob!]

Jarrod these are some more of confirmed episode names: The Haunted Hub Extremis and The Eaters of Light Episodes 4 6 and 10 :)

The Eaters of Light is written by classic who writer Roma...someone or other who wrote Survivor which was the last episode before it got cancelled :cheer2:

[Marsh.]

Well, that's not a good sign. She wrote for the series which saw it decline so badly when it was axed?

[Firewire]

Is anyone not even remotely interested in this at all?

[Marsh.]

Me. It's still Moffat's work and I've had a belly full after 5 years.

I'm only interested to see the new stuff next year.

[Rob!]

Well, that's not a good sign. She wrote for the series which saw it decline so badly when it was axed?

To be fair Survival was actually a really decent story

[Rob!]

Yeah i'm honestly more excited for series 11 than I am 10

[Marsh.]

To be fair Survival was actually a really decent story

I've never seen it. What was it about?

[Rob!]

I've never seen it. What was it about?

It's been a LONG time since I've seen it but the basic plot was about the Doctor's companion of the time, Ace being taken back to her home town where they find that a group of cheetah people have been led there by The Master and are basically taking over the town. It sounds naff but it was actually really good.

[Marsh.]

It's been a LONG time since I've seen it but the basic plot was about the Doctor's companion of the time, Ace being taken back to her home town where they find that a group of cheetah people have been led there by The Master and are basically taking over the town. It sounds naff but it was actually really good.

Nawt t'Master.

[Rob!]

Have you watched any classic episodes Marsh

[Marsh.]

Not any full episodes.

[Marsh.]

No, I tell a lie. I watched Planet of the Spiders (Pertwee story) on Watch a few years back. Might've been during the 50th anniversary celebration stuff.

Other than that, just old clips.

[Ashley.]

I was a born a little too late for the classic episodes, but I remember when they used to show repeats on Watch. I recall an Egyptian-themed episode and then another one with the Mannequins. :think:

[Rob!]

No, I tell a lie. I watched Planet of the Spiders (Pertwee story) on Watch a few years back. Might've been during the 50th anniversary celebration stuff.

Other than that, just old clips.

You should watch Genesis of the Daleks. That's one of the best ones ever

[Rob!]

I was a born a little too late for the classic episodes, but I remember when they used to show repeats on Watch. I recall an Egyptian-themed episode and then another one with the Mannequins. :think:

So was I :nono:

[Ashley.]

So was I :nono:

I wasn't suggesting you weren't!

[Rob!]

I wasn't suggesting you weren't!

You were not suggesting I were not?!?

****ing CHEEK :hmph:

[Ashley.]

:hmph:

[Marsh.]

Rob, I completely forgot about your book why didn't you remind me?

[Rob!]

Rob, I completely forgot about your book why didn't you remind me?

Because I shouldn't have to good buddy old friend old pal http://i.imgur.com/8KAD4SF.gif

[Marsh.]

:joker:

[Denver]

Bookies Betway are reporting a new favourite in the frame to be named the next Doctor Who, with Phoebe Waller-Bridge plummeting from 20/1 to 2/1 in the past 24 hours.

[Firewire]

I loved Fleabag but I think she'd be terrible

[Denver]

I wont judge until they are on screen.

Capaldi on paper was set to be the best yet but for me it just didnt work as well as i wanted

[Firewire]

I think he's been wasted

The writing hasn't exactly been amazing

[Denver]

Maybe it is one of the reasons he left because the stories just were not there.

Its a shame he hasnt had one of those episodes that everyone will always remember

[user104658]

I wont judge until they are on screen.

Capaldi on paper was set to be the best yet but for me it just didnt work as well as i wanted
It was the other way around for me; I thought I'd dislike him more than I did. But then again I might be the only person in the world who thinks Matt Smith is better than David Tennant. :joker:.

Main problem with both of Capaldi's series, in my opinion, is that they were more The Clara Show than about The Doctor...

[user104658]

Maybe it is one of the reasons he left because the stories just were not there.

I wouldn't say he's really leaving prematurely, 3/4 seasons has been standard for the last 3 doctors... But then...


Its a shame he hasnt had one of those episodes that everyone will always remember

I think this is true and it's what makes it feel like he hasn't been around as long as Tennant or Smith. They had so many "big moments", a lot happened for them, whereas not a lot has happened for Capaldi so it doesn't feel like he's had a huge amount of time. The only really "big" episodes for me were the ones on Scarro and then the one where he spends billions of years punching through Diamond...... And both of those were sort of... Stupid. The living sewage dalek thing was ridiculous... And I don't even know where to start with the diamond punching.



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[Sticks]

Its a shame he hasnt had one of those episodes that everyone will always remember

What about the 2nd part of the Zygon story in series 9 with the anti war speech?

uCYobBjA1kk

[Denver]

The new companion is Gay

[MB.]

Oh, I thought she was called Bill

[Denver]

When Doctor Who returns to BBC One on April 15, the Doctor (Peter Capaldi) will meet a new friend, Bill Potts.

Now, actress Pearl Mackie – who plays Bill – has confirmed that her character is openly gay, saying that "representation is important, especially on a mainstream show".

"It shouldn't be a big deal in the 21st Century," she told the BBC. "It's about time isn't it?

"It's important to say people are gay, people are black.

"I remember watching TV as a young mixed race girl not seeing many people who looked like me, so I think being able to visually recognise yourself on screen is important.

"[Being gay] is not the main thing that defines her character – it's something that's part of her and something that she's very happy and very comfortable with."

www.digitalspy.com/tv/doctor-who/news/a824925/doctor-who-pearl-mackie-bill-potts-gay-companion/

[Tom4784]

:clap1:

Not Tumblr going into a shipping induced cardiac arrest if the next Doctor is a woman though.

[Rob!]

Slay :clap1:

I'm all for removing any chance of "love stories' between the Doctor and the companion, so hopefully Bill stays on after Capaldi leaves.

[Marsh.]

Capaldi to lure Bill to the dick?

[Firewire]

FFS

I've written about Doctor Who and its lack of gay representation but I can't include Bill because the episode airs after my dissertation is due and I have nothing to cite from

I'm gonna (virtually, I don't want to be arrested) stab Steven Moffat

[Sticks]

The new companion is Gay

I expect church groups will be condemning this erosion of morals and denouncing this, instructing Christians not to watch Doctor Who

I also expect some church people to say it is now banned from their household because of this homosexual character :bored:

[Ashley.]

I expect church groups will be condemning this erosion of morals and denouncing this, instructing Christians not to watch Doctor Who

I also expect some church people to say it is now banned from their household because of this homosexual character :bored:

What does your Crystal Ball say about me x

[Sticks]

Sorry, I don't have such an item

I would be excommunicated if I did as they are seen by some groups as Satanic items of divination

With these people you just can't win

[user104658]

Capaldi to lure Bill to the dick?
Capaldi would never. Clara wanted it sooo bad and he was too classy to go there.

He was like "Yes I punched through a diamond wall for 12 billion years for you but no you still cannot touch my Danny Pink you moon faced hussy".

He has a duty of care :nono:.

[MB.]

I expect church groups will be condemning this erosion of morals and denouncing this, instructing Christians not to watch Doctor Who

I also expect some church people to say it is now banned from their household because of this homosexual character :bored:

I think you're confusing all churches with the Westboro Baptist Church

[Sticks]

You have never been to certain parts of Scotland then and some of the Wee Frees...

[Tom4784]

If there wasn't an uproar about Captain Jack then there won't be about Bill.

[Marsh.]

Capaldi would never. Clara wanted it sooo bad and he was too classy to go there.

He was like "Yes I punched through a diamond wall for 12 billion years for you but no you still cannot touch my Danny Pink you moon faced hussy".

He has a duty of care :nono:.
:joker:

[Rob!]

Tut tut. Steven Moffat and his lesbian agenda.

Tbf Sticks is probably right. Mind you, I'm sure the types of houses that would ban their kids from watching have already banned them because of the sci fi element suggesting that God isn't a thing.

[user104658]

Tut tut. Steven Moffat and his lesbian agenda.

Tbf Sticks is probably right. Mind you, I'm sure the types of houses that would ban their kids from watching have already banned them because of the sci fi element suggesting that God isn't a thing.
They usually steer clear but I actually noticed that Capaldi's Doctor on more than one occasion was quite blatantly flippant about the legitimacy of organised religion :joker:.

[user104658]

They also already have a lesbian relationship... That victorian lizard woman who sexually abuses her maid.

A... Lizbian. If you will.

[Greg!]

Ugh honestly I can't wait for this series to be over and for the new producer and doctor to start. The show really is a shadow of its former self. Also why are they making such a huge deal of Bill being a lesbian when they've had gay characters and companions since literally 2005

[MB.]

...they're not making a big deal of her being gay, that's the whole point. We'd have found out some other way than in an interview two weeks before the premiere if they were making a big deal out of it

[Greg!]

I meant the media, not the show

[Greg!]

Even if season 10 is good, that will only be 2 out of 6 seasons by Moffat that weren't awful

[Rob!]

They also already have a lesbian relationship... That victorian lizard woman who sexually abuses her maid.

A... Lizbian. If you will.

The hilarious thing is that got complaints purely because of the lesbian aspect. They were fine with the idea of multspecies, a human and a lizard but outraged at two women kissing.

[Denver]

Bill just comes across as really dull and im not sure viewers will take to her

[user104658]

Bill just comes across as really dull and im not sure viewers will take to her
I agree. Got the CBBC presenter vibe as soon as I saw her and clips etc have only confirmed so far...

[Rob!]

New trailer

PbJqNa0_Oz0

:amazed:

[Denver]

Rumours that Billi is also leaving and the BBC are not exactly denying it

[Denver]

However, hopes of a woman Doctor have been dashed as The Mirror reports that the BBC want to bring the show back to the “glory days” of David Tennant and cast a “male actor in his thirties” to take over from Peter.

A source said: “A lot of younger fans have been lost in the last few years, especially young females and the gay male audience.

[Firewire]

Possibly because there's been no gay male character to root for, they can't expect a target audience to stick around when they haven't been represented at all

[Ross.]

Possibly because there's been no gay male character to root for, they can't expect a target audience to stick around when they haven't been represented at all

I love a line from your dissertation

[Marsh.]

I love a line from your dissertation
:joker:

[Marsh.]

Possibly because there's been no gay male character to root for, they can't expect a target audience to stick around when they haven't been represented at all
Let the lezzers have their moment you filthy beast.

[Marsh.]

And the only reason they're abandoning is because they want a doctor to fancy.

I say fook off to them.

[Firewire]

I love a line from your dissertation

It's similar!

[Ross.]

BREAKING NEWS: SAMANTHA WOMACK cast as the new doctor.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/0a/09/480a09ed1db4efafb5712f96dc94c39e.jpg

[Firewire]

Her companion

http://www1.pictures.fp.zimbio.com/Celebs+Leaving+Little+Italy+Bar+London+jCYNKH2M3ee l.jpghttp://www1.pictures.fp.zimbio.com/Celebs+Leaving+Little+Italy+Bar+London+jCYNKH2M3ee l.jpg

[user104658]

Bring back Captain Jack for a season. Torchwood is clearly dead in the water, give him a proper end to his character arc. They can even explain him being a bit older by having the doctor meet him in like 12017 or summat. I'm sure they said he does physically age very slowly.

[Marsh.]

Bring back Captain Jack for a season. Torchwood is clearly dead in the water, give him a proper end to his character arc. They can even explain him being a bit older by having the doctor meet him in like 12017 or summat. I'm sure they said he does physically age very slowly.

Kill him off screen IMO.

[Denver]

John Barrowman can not act so no thanks

[Greg!]

BREAKING NEWS: SAMANTHA WOMACK cast as the new doctor.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/48/0a/09/480a09ed1db4efafb5712f96dc94c39e.jpg

omg if that happened I'd go into cardiac arrest

[Greg!]

in a good way

[Rob!]

Kill him off screen IMO.

This. ****ing awful and overrated character and actor. The only person I've ever seen want Jack back is John Barrowman.

[Rob!]

And urgh I hope those press reports are a gross exaggeration l've LOVED capaldi.

[Firewire]

John Barrowman can not act so no thanks

I'm not a big fan of his

Every character is the exact same

[Ross.]

John Barrowman's Desperate Housewives character is a scream

[Marsh.]

John Barrowman's Desperate Housewives character is a scream

:joker: :joker: :joker:

You can see on Drea de Matteo's face "Straight? Who are you kidding?"

[Rob!]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

You can see on Drea de Matteo's face "Straight? Who are you kidding?"

Omg you can see how we've felt with you all these years :joker: :idc:

[Marsh.]

*puts my unwashed dildo under Rob's nose when he sleeps*

[Ross.]

:joker: :joker: :joker:

You can see on Drea de Matteo's face "Straight? Who are you kidding?"

:joker::joker:

[Rob!]

*puts my unwashed dildo under Rob's nose when he sleeps*

http://i.giphy.com/7zEL4hQDmqVwI.gif

[Jarrod]

Forget Jack, I want bloody Gwen Cooper back.

[Jarrod]

Also, the episode is confirmed for 7:20pm on Saturday 15th.

[user104658]

It would sort of make sense for him to go back to being younger to be fair, based on the character arc. He became an older / meaner / tougher doctor in Capaldi because of the events at the end of Matt Smith's run... He "had to" be that slightly darker person as a healing process as I think he was essentially experiencing some sort of time Lord version of existentialist depression at the start of the Capaldi stint. It would make sense for him to have come through it by the time he next regenerates and go back to being a "more youthful" and optimistic version.

That said, I also have enjoyed this version. It was so refreshing to not have him huffing and moaning over every single death. Capaldi Doctor barely even noticed some of them :joker:. "Oh yeah he died obviously. Whatevz. Let's go."

[Saph]

where can i watch series 9 online please thx

[Saph]

They also already have a lesbian relationship... That victorian lizard woman who sexually abuses her maid.

A... Lizbian. If you will.

lmao bye

[MB.]

It's on Netflix but I'm guessing that's not what you're after

[Saph]

season 9?

[MB.]

nvm it's only the Christmas special... I was sure it had been added recently?

[Marsh.]

It's on Netflix but I'm guessing that's not what you're after

nvm it's only the Christmas special... I was sure it had been added recently?

I did the exact same thing.

I was perched to re-watch Face the Raven then saw it was literally just the Christmas episode.

[Rob!]

And they added the 50th anniversary into series 8 :unsure:

[Rob!]

According to the sun

John Simm is back as the master

[Marsh.]

:umm2:

I heard the trailer at the end of episode 1 contains a spoiler that....

Susan returns.

[Rob!]

:umm2:

I heard the trailer at the end of episode 1 contains a spoiler that....

Susan returns.

Well the sun report says that the spoiler at the end of the trailer is the one that I mentioned. I hope not though.

[Marsh.]

:worry: That would actually be terrible.

Unless it's literally a 10 second flashback showing how he became Missy.

Unless it's revealed he's not Missy at all. D:

[Rob!]

:worry: That would actually be terrible.

Unless it's literally a 10 second flashback showing how he became Missy.

Unless it's revealed he's not Missy at all. D:

God knows. Moffat is in free fall now.

I hope we get one last weeping angel story before he goes though.

[Saph]

nty to john simm

[Saph]

when is martha gonna make a comeback though.. shes like the only assistant not dead or in another universe or anything

[user104658]

If they do regen Missy into John Simm then I can only imagine it's to gauge fan reaction with a view to bringing back either Tennant or Smith's doctor. Or even just opening that door for the future (someone could leave for a season and then return). Though I'm sure the concept of other timelords "revisiting old faces" has been mentioned in the show before...

On the other hand for him to be back for a couple of episodes they wouldn't have to be flashbacks OR him being a new version... They're time travellers... Surely they could just encounter him earlier in his timeline? Before he became Missy. We've had Tennant and Smith sat side by side, why not the Master and Missy getting up close and personal?

"It's not incest... We're MASTERbating muahahahaaa"

[Tom4784]

Not here for John Simm, especially if they are are going back to him as a replacement for Missy. I'm hoping it's more of a cameo or perhaps something happens to Missy that causes her to split into two or something.


when is martha gonna make a comeback though.. shes like the only assistant not dead or in another universe or anything

I doubt we'll ever hear of her again, I think she's considered a bit of a failure. I feel bad for the actress because it's the writers' fault for trying to turn her into Rose 2.0

[user104658]

MarFAAA...

Yeah she was a bit of a filler-companion. Still not as bad as Catherine Tate though.

[user104658]

Though if it's at all possible, so far I'm finding Matt Lucas even more irritating :umm2:.

[Tom4784]

Yeah, I like having more than one companion but I just don't like his character all that much.

[Saph]

Donna was the best companion

Donna > Rose/Amy > Martha > Clara

[Braden]

I don't know if I've already said this, Russell T. Davies' era of Doctor Who was iconic. It all went downhill from when he left.

As much as I loved Doctor Who, I'm not sure if it's purely RTD that caused me to become a fan. I love most of his other work too (Cucumber, Queer as Folk, etc.)

Bring. Him. Back.

[Tom4784]

I'd place Clara above Martha tbh, she was pretty boring in her first season but they found a direction that worked when they paired her with Capaldi.

Donna > Amy/Rory > Clara > Rose (I don't think she was THAT great, looking back) > Martha.

[Saph]

season 1 rose was amazing

season 2 rose was just gagging for davids cock

[Tom4784]

I don't know if I've already said this, Russell T. Davies' era of Doctor Who was iconic. It all went downhill from when he left.

As much as I loved Doctor Who, I'm not sure if it's purely RTD that caused me to become a fan. I love most of his other work too (Cucumber, Queer as Folk, etc.)

Bring. Him. Back.

I thought he was a more consistent showrunner than Moffett but he had his problems. An overreliance on the Daleks were a big one, another issue were weak season long arcs that depended on keywords rather than actual build up (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon, Medusa Cascade/Bees). I also disliked how badly he handled most of his LGBT characters as they often felt like statements rather than actual characters which is surprising given that his claim to fame is mostly from well written gay themed shows.

Moffett's had his problems but the only really problematic season he's done was 7, I think. Matt Smith's first two seasons were good and both Capaldi seasons have been a return to form. Moffett's main issues were his need to overcomplicate everything and the fact that he was inconsistent but I think Capaldi's seasons so far have fixed some of those issues at least in part.

Ready for the new showrunner though.

[Braden]

I thought he was a more consistent showrunner than Moffett but he had his problems. An overreliance on the Daleks were a big one, another issue were weak season long arcs that depended on keywords rather than actual build up (Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon, Medusa Cascade/Bees). I also disliked how badly he handled most of his LGBT characters as they often felt like statements rather than actual characters which is surprising given that his claim to fame is mostly from well written gay themed shows.

Moffett's had his problems but the only really problematic season he's done was 7, I think. Matt Smith's first two seasons were good and both Capaldi seasons have been a return to form. Moffett's main issues were his need to overcomplicate everything and the fact that he was inconsistent but I think Capaldi's seasons so far have fixed some of those issues at least in part.

Ready for the new showrunner though.

See, I never really noticed a reliance on Daleks. Maybe because I was young and naive at the time, but I enjoyed all of the episodes that included them (except, ironically enough, the first one that reintroduced them...and even that wasn't so bad)). I liked the simplicity of key-word arcs, but again, that could be because I was quite young at the time. I'd much rather have subtle hints of keywords than the complicated and intricate story-telling of Moffatt's era. I feel like RTD's era did a good job of producing stand-alone episodes, but tied them all together quite nicely at certain points of relevance. The only Moffatt season that comes close to doing that is S5, and 'the crack in the wall' still grew to become tiresome—also, don't get me started on that shocking season finale.

I do agree with how he made LGBT characters appear more like statements rather than complex additions. I can't even think of any LGBT character he included apart from Captain Jack, who I enjoyed nonetheless.

I stopped watching during S6. I think the season being split into two parts was the final state for me. It was complicated enough without having to wait months and months to establish any sense to the narrative (which never usually happened anyway from what I gather :p).

[Tom4784]

See, I never really noticed a reliance on Daleks. Maybe because I was young and naive at the time, but I enjoyed all of the episodes that included them (except, ironically enough, the first one that reintroduced them...and even that wasn't so bad)). I liked the simplicity of key-word arcs, but again, that could be because I was quite young at the time. I'd much rather have subtle hints of keywords than the complicated and intricate story-telling of Moffatt's era. I feel like RTD's era did a good job of producing stand-alone episodes, but tied them all together quite nicely at certain points of relevance. The only Moffatt season that comes close to doing that is S5, and 'the crack in the wall' still grew to become tiresome—also, don't get me started on that shocking season finale.

I do agree with how he made LGBT characters appear more like statements rather than complex additions. I can't even think of any LGBT character he included apart from Captain Jack, who I enjoyed nonetheless.

I stopped watching during S6. I think the season being split into two parts was the final state for me. It was complicated enough without having to wait months and months to establish any sense to the narrative (which never usually happened anyway from what I gather :p).

Having the Daleks be the big bad in three our of four series was massively problematic for me. The problem with the keywords, I think is that there wasn't any real development. They'd throw in references and wait until the last block of episodes for a payoff.

Captain Jack is a sore spot for me and a big reason why I dislike Russell. Jack's meant to be bisexual (not bothering with the silly stand in sexuality they came up with in the show) but the only time he ever felt like a bisexual character was in his first appearances in the Empty Child two parter and even then that was mired by the stereotype of Bi people being overly flirty/promiscuous. Once Russell got his hands on him he straight up dropped the bisexuality and made him gay which I find particularly offensive since that's just another stereotype checked off the list. Bisexuality is woefully represented in most TV shows and it bothers me that Russell T. Davies would take one that was mostly well written (Flirty stereotype aside) and would turn him into another gay character for no reason than his own ego.

[user104658]

I agree about the captain Jack sexuality thing... They introduced him with this really interesting concept of being from a future with a completely fluid in sexuality; he was into women, men, aliens, whatever so long as he found them attractive. It was an interesting take on sexual enlightenment. But past his initial couple of episodes... That evaporated and he was quite clearly gay in terms of sexuality. He had some emotional connections with depth with female characters, but any real "love interest" or character he showed any sexual desire for, was always a human male. I agree that it's problematic for people that are genuinely bisexual. It furthers that stereotype that anyone claiming to be bisexual is simply half-in-the-closet and will eventually come out as gay.

[Braden]

Having the Daleks be the big bad in three our of four series was massively problematic for me. The problem with the keywords, I think is that there wasn't any real development. They'd throw in references and wait until the last block of episodes for a payoff.

Captain Jack is a sore spot for me and a big reason why I dislike Russell. Jack's meant to be bisexual (not bothering with the silly stand in sexuality they came up with in the show) but the only time he ever felt like a bisexual character was in his first appearances in the Empty Child two parter and even then that was mired by the stereotype of Bi people being overly flirty/promiscuous. Once Russell got his hands on him he straight up dropped the bisexuality and made him gay which I find particularly offensive since that's just another stereotype checked off the list. Bisexuality is woefully represented in most TV shows and it bothers me that Russell T. Davies would take one that was mostly well written (Flirty stereotype aside) and would turn him into another gay character for no reason than his own ego.

I think for me, as I've mentioned, age is a key factor. I liked that RTD made Doctor Who a family show, and the simplicity of the narrative is something that I enjoyed. I've always wanted to re-watch his era again, so it'll be interesting to see if my opinion change now that I'm older.

Yeah, the only time I remember Jack flauting his sexuality was the episode where The Master re-appears. I think it was named 'Utopia', and they specifically had him flirt with a woman, man and alien throughout the episode. I'm not really sure what to make of it now, but it definitely reinforces the stereotype you mentioned that bisexuals are overly flirtatious and sexual. I can see why that would be an issue with viewers. From what I know, he was essentially turned into a 'gay character' within Torchwood?

[Glenn.]

I agree with Dezzy on the dalek thing. The overuse of the Daleks irritated me too.. RTD definitely relied on them too much. I couldn't believe the S3 Finale didn't feature one of them. I liked that Moffat rested them somewhat and when he bought them back there was progression with them and they wasn't just there to destroy the universe etc. Can a Dalek have character development?

[Pete.]

According to the sun

John Simm is back as the master

My time to leave :amazed:

[Glenn.]

Just been confirmed by the BBC

John Simm will return as The Master to battle The Doctor (Peter Capaldi), new companion Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) and Nardole (Matt Lucas) in the forthcoming series of Doctor Who.

John Simm says: “I can confirm that it’s true, thanks to the power of time travel I’m back. It’s always a pleasure to work with this great team of people and I can’t wait for you all to see what The Master gets up to in the next series. “

Steven Moffat, writer and executive producer, says: “Nothing stays secret for long on Doctor Who but you’ll have to wait a little bit longer to see exactly what The Master is up to and how he makes his return to face the Doctor. It’s been a huge pleasure to have fan favourites John Simm and Michelle Gomez face to face in the same role! It’s not often you get to see a solo personality clash.”

John Simm was last seen as The Master on New Year’s Day 2010. Viewers will have to wait to see exactly when and how The Master will return to the new series, which starts on Saturday 15 April at 7:20pm on BBC One.

As previously announced, Doctor Who series ten will also star Michelle Gomez as Missy – a later regeneration of The Master. Other returning foes include the Daleks, the Ice Warriors and – returning for the first time in almost fifty years – the Mondasian Cybermen. An exciting line up of new faces and adversaries will debut across the series, including adorable-but-deadly Emojibots and David Suchet as The Landlord.

[Tom4784]

Here for Missy scalping him and all of us in the process.

[Jarrod]

DOCTOR WHO - S10 EP1 - THE PILOT
Saturday 15th April @ 7:20pm

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/640x360/p04zc7tx.jpg

Two worlds collide when the Doctor meets Bill, and a chance encounter with a girl with a star in her eye leads to a terrifying chase across time and space. Bill's mind is opened to a universe that is bigger and more exciting than she could possibly have imagined. But who is the Doctor, and what is his secret mission on Earth?

Cast:
The Doctor - Peter Capaldi
Bill - Pearl Mackie
Nardole - Matt Lucas
Moira - Jennifer Hennessy
Heather - Stephanie Hyam
Voice of the Daleks - Nicholas Briggs
Director - Lawrence Gough
Producer - Peter Bennett
Executive Producer - Steven Moffat
Executive Producer - Brian Minchin
Writer - Steven Moffat

[Ross.]

Just been confirmed by the BBC

John Simm will return as The Master to battle The Doctor (Peter Capaldi), new companion Bill Potts (Pearl Mackie) and Nardole (Matt Lucas) in the forthcoming series of Doctor Who.

John Simm says: “I can confirm that it’s true, thanks to the power of time travel I’m back. It’s always a pleasure to work with this great team of people and I can’t wait for you all to see what The Master gets up to in the next series. “

Steven Moffat, writer and executive producer, says: “Nothing stays secret for long on Doctor Who but you’ll have to wait a little bit longer to see exactly what The Master is up to and how he makes his return to face the Doctor. It’s been a huge pleasure to have fan favourites John Simm and Michelle Gomez face to face in the same role! It’s not often you get to see a solo personality clash.”

John Simm was last seen as The Master on New Year’s Day 2010. Viewers will have to wait to see exactly when and how The Master will return to the new series, which starts on Saturday 15 April at 7:20pm on BBC One.

As previously announced, Doctor Who series ten will also star Michelle Gomez as Missy – a later regeneration of The Master. Other returning foes include the Daleks, the Ice Warriors and – returning for the first time in almost fifty years – the Mondasian Cybermen. An exciting line up of new faces and adversaries will debut across the series, including adorable-but-deadly Emojibots and David Suchet as The Landlord.

I'm lowkey perched NOT SORRY

[Morgan.]

Why did I read Peter Bennett as Pete Bennett? :joker:

[Rob!]

Apparently the final two episodes are called World Enough and Time (:unsure:) and The Doctor Falls.

[MB.]

I do recognise the reference in that somewhat awkwardly-worded title, but that's only because I had to google it after a Doctor Who fan I know changed his Instagram bio to the full quote (he's also studied Lit so I just assumed he was being pretentious)

And I hope The Doctor Falls is some really anti-climactic episode in which he takes a tumble getting out of bed and gets a Stannah stairlift installed

[user104658]

I do recognise the reference in that somewhat awkwardly-worded title, but that's only because I had to google it after a Doctor Who fan I know changed his Instagram bio to the full quote (he's also studied Lit so I just assumed he was being pretentious)

And I hope The Doctor Falls is some really anti-climactic episode in which he takes a tumble getting out of bed and gets a Stannah stairlift installed
I would love it if they had a regeneration for a totally random reason one time. No massive world saving sacrifice. Like the Doctor solves the problem as always, doesn't get hurt, everything is great, they all go off to get ice-cream and he gets hit by a car :joker:.

[Denver]

Capaldi has confirmed he has filmed his death scenes so we will be getting a new doctor announced pretty soon before they film the xmas episode

[Tom4784]

It'll either be a woman (come thru Olivia Coleman/Tilda Swinton/Hayley Atwell) or a young attractive guy for the fans to thirst over.

Here for a female doctor.

[armand.kay]

Capaldi has confirmed he has filmed his death scenes so we will be getting a new doctor announced pretty soon before they film the xmas episode

how sad I was hoping we would get a capaldi doctor without Moffat!

[arista]

slow start

[Greg!]

This is quite good isn't it.

[Greg!]

Bill is annoying but she's already better than Clara

[MB.]

Bill mistaking the TARDIS for a glorified lift :love:

[Braden]

I'm not a fan of Peter Capaldi tbh. I am liking Bill, though.

[Marsh.]

Capaldi has confirmed he has filmed his death scenes so we will be getting a new doctor announced pretty soon before they film the xmas episode
He's regenerating. It's not death you heathen.

And they won't reveal anything until after series 10 has aired.

It'll probably be like in 2013, new doctor announced in August before the current doctor's final episode at Christmas.

[MB.]

Me chasing my crush teas :(

[Greg!]

Actually Marsh hon I watched Grahame Norton and he did say he'd filmed his "death scene" so stop being nasty!

[Marsh.]

I would love it if they had a regeneration for a totally random reason one time. No massive world saving sacrifice. Like the Doctor solves the problem as always, doesn't get hurt, everything is great, they all go off to get ice-cream and he gets hit by a car :joker:.
Didn't one of the old doctors regenerate because he fell off a pylon? :joker:

[MB.]

Didn't one of the old doctors regenerate because he fell off a pylon? :joker:

Tom Baker, which was probably the most anti-climactic ending possible (other than, say, being strangled by his own scarf)

[Marsh.]

Actually Marsh hon I watched Grahame Norton and he did say he'd filmed his "death scene" so stop being nasty!
Still not a death you naughty girl!

[Marsh.]

Tom Baker, which was probably the most anti-climactic ending possible (other than, say, being strangled by his own scarf)
:joker:

[Braden]

The last episode I watched was the first one with Capaldi and Clara, and I thought that was awful. This one was a lot better—I think she's great so far, and I actually want to watch the next episode. I haven't wanted to do that for a while.

[Marsh.]

I thought Deep Breath was great.

[MB.]

I enjoyed series 8 but looking back, I can see what an effing awful character Clara was

[Marsh.]

Yeah. She was an improvement on Pond for me as Karen Gillan just irritated me. But bad writing let them both down.

[Braden]

I thought Deep Breath was great.

http://68.media.tumblr.com/aea2285fcf771f9b5fa790cc761270d1/tumblr_omxum3nigS1rrt01ro1_400.gif

Nah, honestly, I couldn't even make it through the whole episode. Like I said, I'm not a fan of Capaladi—and I couldn't warm to Clara at all.

[Marsh.]

Yeah. Clara could be a bit too much of a know it all for me.

I like companions really taking in the adventure aspect and being new to it all.

[Braden]

Yeah, me too. Did you say Donna was your favourite?