UK / IRL immigration thread [was Illegal Migrants French boats & Lorrys entering...]

[Beso]

No bikes?

[arista]

No bikes?


They Buy a Bike
on a loan


Then start working illegally for
Food Deliveries

[Beso]

They Buy a Bike
on a loan


Then start working illegally for
Food Deliveries

Don't forget 4 free meals per day as Britain languishes in a child poverty crisis, where parents go hungry to feed thier kids.

[Cherie]

Yesterday
as Macron/Starmer made a new deal to start next month.

750 illegal migrants, arrived at Dover

They will get
Free Hotel
Free Phone
Free Dentist
Free NHS
Free Cash.

Free travel

Meanwhile they are trying to take that away from over 60s because it costs too much

[arista]

Free travel

Meanwhile they are trying to take that away from over 60s because it costs too much


Thanks added to my original post

[Zizu]

https://x.com/hoodedclaw1974/status/1943543797750862017?s=46


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[Cherie]

https://x.com/hoodedclaw1974/status/1943543797750862017?s=46


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LT beat you to it and posted this earlier, still funny though

[arista]

Yesterday 353 illegal migrants
were pulled into Dover.


Again to get


Free Hotel
Free Phone
Free Dentist
Free NHS
Free Cash
Free Travel.

[Cherie]

When is the government going to admit that this is Putin trying to destablise the West, where are they all getting the cash from to cross....mmm....they used to hitch rides for free on lorries and vans, now they all have cash to pay people smugglers...

[Zizu]

Supposedly the good people of Spain have finally had enough !!’

https://x.com/inevitablewest/status/1944148644862812410?s=46


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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gv5PlC3X0AARdYx?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

Live


https://www.youtube.com/live/020rIcd6bG0?si=gXF3-19xUr8evDvc

[Oliver_W]

I can't really tell what's happening, is it about illegals assaulting women and/or girls?

[Liam-]

Brainless thugs that just want to hurt people to make themselves feel better

[Glenn.]

I watched for 30 seconds. From the comments I’m guessing someone just been seriously assaulted.

****ing morons

[Livia]

I can't really tell what's happening, is it about illegals assaulting women and/or girls?

And the fact that illegal migrants - all young men from cultures that do not value women - have been housed in the middle of their community. The assault on a schoolgirls kind of kicked it all off though. Epping Council said they are against it and were not consulted before the Home Office moved them in. People have said Epping has a history of being Far Right but there's a Jewish community that's lived there quite happily for decades and decades.....

[Beso]

And the fact that illegal migrants - all young men from cultures that do not value women - have been housed in the middle of their community. The assault on a schoolgirls kind of kicked it all off though. Epping Council said they are against it and were not consulted before the Home Office moved them in. People have said Epping has a history of being Far Right but there's a Jewish community that's lived there quite happily for decades and decades.....



It must be really jarring to have another influx into the community considering the parents of many of these people will have moved out to Essex from the old East end when it became unrecognizable to them.

[Glenn.]

Thought I’d check back in and sure enough they’re attacking police vans now…

[BBXX]

Thought I’d check back in and sure enough they’re attacking police vans now…

Probs because they go to Pride x

[Livia]

It must be really jarring to have another influx into the community considering the parents of many of these people will have moved out to Essex from the old East end when it became unrecognizable to them.

Yes. My parents always aspired to live in Epping. Of course, being white working class who never owned a property till they retired, they had no chance. They watched the East End they loved handed over to incomers. I can trace my father's side of the family back to before the Great Fire of London, they lived in the Moorgate area. None of my family live there now. It's like a foreign country.

[Glenn.]

Morbid curiosity allowed me to watch a for a few minutes. There’s a very angry man shouting at the riot police. I’m sure he has to be home for work in the morning. I’m sure he works.

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250717/67c43e054575e0bcb098dd26878bc9f1.jpg
Can’t imagine people following this sort of thing on YouTube. A tad embarrassing

[Beso]

Yes. My parents always aspired to live in Epping. Of course, being white working class who never owned a property till they retired, they had no chance. They watched the East End they loved handed over to incomers. I can trace my father's side of the family back to before the Great Fire of London, they lived in the Moorgate area. None of my family live there now. It's like a foreign country.




The real world, Livia. My heart breaks for them. I couldn't imagine my town just being allowed to change so drastically.

[Livia]

The real world, Livia. My heart breaks for them. I couldn't imagine my town just being allowed to change so drastically.

They're up here in Norfolk with me now. Well, not with me, but a ten minute walk away, five if you cut across a field, about as far removed from east London as you can get. We hardly ever go back to London now, which is sad, generations of my Dad's family lived in the same street in East Ham. It was a decent working class street, like a village really, and there were people from all over, Caribbean, India, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Poland... it was a nice mix of good people. Now it's full of people walking around with machetes, selling drugs and not speaking English.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250717/67c43e054575e0bcb098dd26878bc9f1.jpg
Can’t imagine people following this sort of thing on YouTube. A tad embarrassing

No need to be embarrassed if you can't imagine it. People watch all sorts of stuff on YouTube, music, sitcoms and railways etc

[Beso]

They're up here in Norfolk with me now. Well, not with me, but a ten minute walk away, five if you cut across a field, about as far removed from east London as you can get. We hardly ever go back to London now, which is sad, generations of my Dad's family lived in the same street in East Ham. It was a decent working class street, like a village really, and there were people from all over, Caribbean, India, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Poland... it was a nice mix of good people. Now it's full of people walking around with machetes, selling drugs and not speaking English.




Hope you are all getting a lovely sea breeze. Nothing better than a sea breeze.

[Zizu]

Hope you are all getting a lovely sea breeze. Nothing better than a sea breeze.


My mum always warned us to be careful sunbathing in a sea breeze as you don’t realise how much you are burning


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[Mystic Mock]

Imo if Epping is as far right as some people in the Media say it is, then it's highly reckless of this country to send Asylum Seekers over to that particular area of the country.

On a totally unrelated topic, it reminds me of Glastonbury having Daphne & Celeste perform back in the day.

Safety for the individuals should be a top priority in any scenario.

[Cherie]

Imo if Epping is as far right as some people in the Media say it is, then it's highly reckless of this country to send Asylum Seekers over to that particular area of the country.

On a totally unrelated topic, it reminds me of Glastonbury having Daphne & Celeste perform back in the day.

Safety for the individuals should be a top priority in any scenario.

Epping is not far right, get a grip Mock, but they dont like it when women are attacked, think it would be the same in your neck of the woods no?

[Cherie]

They're up here in Norfolk with me now. Well, not with me, but a ten minute walk away, five if you cut across a field, about as far removed from east London as you can get. We hardly ever go back to London now, which is sad, generations of my Dad's family lived in the same street in East Ham. It was a decent working class street, like a village really, and there were people from all over, Caribbean, India, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Poland... it was a nice mix of good people. Now it's full of people walking around with machetes, selling drugs and not speaking English.

When I came to London first from a rural background in Ireland I absolutely loved it...such a melting pot with so many different cultures.... it changed so much in the last 10 years and while people were still lovely we did feel like a minority and outsiders....so glad we moved ...think alot of people dont experience that, and so they have no idea of how communities changed...but hey ho

[Mystic Mock]

Epping is not far right, get a grip Mock, but they dont like it when women are attacked, think it would be the same in your neck of the woods no?

That's why I said if they're Far Right like the Media are saying, not that they are Far Right.

So I have got a grip thank you very much, unlike a lot of these threads going on Serious Debates at least.

And my area is right wing, but made up mostly of elderly people.:laugh:

[arista]

Police arrested one person.

[arista]

Police arrested Two Men, in total.


The Local MP
wants that hotel closed down.


Ref : Times Radio Debate and BBC1HD 6PM news

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://x.com/russellquirk/status/1946092227291426918




chilling

[Beso]

https://x.com/russellquirk/status/1946092227291426918




chilling




They did exactly that. It's all on the live video of the whole protest that I posted . As is the protestor getting rammed by a large police vehicle, sending to flying and lucky not to go under the wheels. Possible charges to follow for the driver.

[Livia]

When white people want to live with their own people, their own tribe, they're Right Wing. When foreign people want to live with their own people it's called community.

[Livia]

That's why I said if they're Far Right like the Media are saying, not that they are Far Right.

So I have got a grip thank you very much, unlike a lot of these threads going on Serious Debates at least.

And my area is right wing, but made up mostly of elderly people.:laugh:

Maybe those elderly people have worked and paid tax their whole life and now they're watching as their country, and their taxes, are given away to strangers. Maybe voting for the Right is the only way they can protest? Because no one's listening to them. In fact, people are ridiculing them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe those elderly people have worked and paid tax their whole life and now they're watching as their country, and their taxes, are given away to strangers. Maybe voting for the Right is the only way they can protest? Because no one's listening to them. In fact, people are ridiculing them.

Its easy to have "luxury beliefs" when you are young, its why they have them! :laugh:

[Beso]

The lefties sat in their ivory towers have absolutely no empathy for the people this is being forced upon.

[Livia]

Its easy to have "luxury beliefs" when you are young, its why they have them! :laugh:

You're right of course. I've never known such disrespect of older people as I see lately. I find it quite sickening. Younger people seem to feel free to say really harsh, dismissive things about people who've kept this country going. But they will not stand for anything to be said against illegals who are living large on everyone's taxes.

[arista]

The Hotel today
is all fenced off

[Liam-]

If the older generations didn’t constantly try and make everything much more difficult for younger generations just to get by, or didn’t show themselves up with their bigoted views they inherit from their favourite news shows, there’d be a bit more of a bridge between the generations, you don’t get to have loud and proud views that the younger people just don’t agree with and then wonder why they don’t respect you or your voice.

Archaic, racist opinions get watered down through new generations thankfully, although there are some parents out there that are still indoctrinating their kids to be as hateful as them, but one day hopefully those kids will get out and be able to think for themselves and realise they’ve been lied to, that’s the way it tends to go

[Crimson Dynamo]

You're right of course. I've never known such disrespect of older people as I see lately. I find it quite sickening. Younger people seem to feel free to say really harsh, dismissive things about people who've kept this country going. But they will not stand for anything to be said against illegals who are living large on everyone's taxes.

Yes they still lock their cars and doors at night..they still have passports.. and can you imagine if they woke up and found a 4 man tent with illegal migrants in their back garden?

999 before you could say NIMBY :joker:

[Livia]

If the older generations didn’t constantly try and make everything much more difficult for younger generations just to get by, or didn’t show themselves up with their bigoted views they inherit from their favourite news shows, there’d be a bit more of a bridge between the generations, you don’t get to have loud and proud views that the younger people just don’t agree with and then wonder why they don’t respect you or your voice.

Archaic, racist opinions get watered down through new generations thankfully, although there are some parents out there that are still indoctrinating their kids to be as hateful as them, but one day hopefully those kids will get out and be able to think for themselves and realise they’ve been lied to, that’s the way it tends to go

Again, how old are you? Getting up there. And frankly, you're one of the most hateful people on this forum. Hateful... And entitled.

[Livia]

Yes they still lock their cars and doors at night..they still have passports.. and can you imagine if they woke up and found a 4 man tent with illegal migrants in their back garden?

999 before you could say NIMBY :joker:

Oh please let that happen... Pleeeeease...

Although I'm sure they'd be outraged that those poor migrants were in a tent.

[Liam-]

Again, how old are you? Getting up there. And frankly, you're one of the most hateful people on this forum. Hateful... And entitled.

Okay :joker:

[Livia]

Okay :joker:

And you just can't see it.

[Liam-]

And you just can't see it.

Okay :joker:

[Livia]

Okay :joker:

Bore off Liam, you look like a fool.

[Liam-]

Only one of us is losing our heads and constantly insulting members, which is against the rules may I remind you, if you can’t control your emotions when people disagree with you, an open forum might not be the best place for you

[Beso]

No empathy whatsoever.

Shallow minded adult children.

[arista]

Back on Topic

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/19/09/100450461-0-image-a-7_1752914429319.jpg


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/18/22/100412113-14919987-image-a-4_1752873011244.jpg
No,
its not metal that can take that

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/18/22/100412189-14919987-Earlier_the_man_could_be_seen_scrambling_up_the_wi ndscreen_of_th-a-10_1752873339088.jpg

As it was driving away

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/07/18/22/100412287-14919987-Another_man_dressed_all_in_black_approaches_a_poli ce_van_as_a_br-a-14_1752873354196.jpg

That fella protester at the front
was knocked out the way,
as it drove off


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14919987/The-Bell-Hotel-Epping-migrants-protests-sex-attack.html

[Glenn.]

Foreign people HAVE to live together in this country BECAUSE of white people.

[arista]

Foreign people HAVE to live together in this country BECAUSE of white people.


Sure Glenn


But these,
were illegal migrants.

They came in on illegal boats

[Liam-]

If they come here they have to integrate!!

No, we don’t want those brown people in our communities!! Integrate somewhere else!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

the police bussed in the rent a mob Socialist worker crew last night and then bussed them out in 3 vans

ycnmiu

[arista]

Yes outsiders arrived to protest

[arista]

One illegal migrant
was chatting to a 14-year-old local girl.

Thats what went wild on the media a few days back, now

[Livia]

One illegal migrant
was chatting to a 14-year-old local girl.

Thats what went wild on the media a few days back, now

You don't get arrested for chatting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Last Thursday, he appeared at Chelmsford Magistrates' Court, which heard he
allegedly walked into Epping, put his hand on a 14-year-old schoolgirl's leg and
asked for a kiss.

He allegedly asked her: 'Who wants to have a kiss and make love and have
Jamaican babies?'

The following day – July 8 – he approached the same girl and tried to kiss her
as well as a 16-year-old girl, the court heard.

[Ninastar]

Last Thursday, he appeared at Chelmsford Magistrates' Court, which heard he
allegedly walked into Epping, put his hand on a 14-year-old schoolgirl's leg and
asked for a kiss.

He allegedly asked her: 'Who wants to have a kiss and make love and have
Jamaican babies?'

The following day – July 8 – he approached the same girl and tried to kiss her
as well as a 16-year-old girl, the court heard.

I often wonder how many more underage girls and women have to be assaulted/almost raped/actually raped for serious action to be taken by these repeat offenders.

It’s got to be in the hundreds at this point. Maybe thousands? More?

I’ve never understood why most of the illegal immigrants that sneak in are mostly men. Where are the women and children? What are we doing to keep the vulnerable safe from this rampant rise in sexual assault ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

PCSO who is Colombian and wearing a "political badge" tells Dan of DJE Media that the hotel illegal migrants don't make the local people feel intimidated when they hang around in groups ..

https://x.com/DJEMEDIA_/status/1946480129229963447

[arista]

Last Thursday, he appeared at Chelmsford Magistrates' Court, which heard he
allegedly walked into Epping, put his hand on a 14-year-old schoolgirl's leg and asked for a kiss.

He allegedly asked her: 'Who wants to have a kiss and make love and have
Jamaican babies?'

The following day – July 8 – he approached the same girl and tried to kiss her
as well as a 16-year-old girl, the court heard.


Yes, no wonder the Hotel
has now put cages around it.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1946587863677563146?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

‘Concerned local parents’

[Mystic Mock]

Maybe those elderly people have worked and paid tax their whole life and now they're watching as their country, and their taxes, are given away to strangers. Maybe voting for the Right is the only way they can protest? Because no one's listening to them. In fact, people are ridiculing them.

That most likely is the case tbf.

[Beso]

https://youtu.be/6eAHyKmplE4?si=1mBlEnZVPvzISgWL

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://youtu.be/6eAHyKmplE4?si=1mBlEnZVPvzISgWL

6eAHyKmplE4

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1946587863677563146?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

‘Concerned local parents’

You found one person (if true), have a gold star

[Crimson Dynamo]

Look at this drone footage from outside the Bell Hotel in Epping.... if only they
put as much effort into protecting our borders 😯🤷*♀️

https://x.com/jomickane/status/1946654818556346819


2 tier Britain?

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14921575/migrant-sexually-assaulted-teenage-girl-special-needs-jailed.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&ito=social-twitter_mailonline#

No wonder the good people of Epping are worried...

[Beso]

Another protest planned for today.

[arista]

Another protest planned for today.


The Hotel has fences around it

[arista]

6eAHyKmplE4

He is part of the problem.

This got a brief mention on BBC1HD Laura 9AM
in brief with her panel.

[Cherie]

Look at this drone footage from outside the Bell Hotel in Epping.... if only they
put as much effort into protecting our borders 😯🤷*♀️

https://x.com/jomickane/status/1946654818556346819


2 tier Britain?

where are we getting all these police from, none around when you might want one

[Liam-]

Well that’s what happens when racist thickos decide to target innocent people in their mission against foreigners, blame them not anybody else

[bots]

it's a slippery slope when we start praising and supporting lawless vigilantes

[Livia]

it's a slippery slope when we start praising and supporting lawless vigilantes

What should people do? No one's listening.

[Liam-]

Using violence and intimidation to make a political point is pretty much the definition of terrorism btw

[bots]

What should people do? No one's listening.

dont support lawless vigilantes would be a good starting point

[Livia]

dont support lawless vigilantes would be a good starting point


The Good people of Epping should maybe swallow the assault of a young girl and ignore the hotel full of foreign men in their community because the real Far Right might turn up. The police know who are the lawless vigilantes and who are the ordinary worried families but they won't make a distinction. The police ushered Antifa protesters right into the middle of a peaceful protest. They must bear some responsibility for the protests that ensues.

[Liam-]

Ther Americanisation of the British far right needs to be studied, the police let in antifa so they could start a riot? Jesus :joker:

Anything and everything to take the blame away from thugs who want to attack people and destroy things because they can’t stand the sight of brown people, own it, this is what you want, as you said, ‘what else can people do?’ You love brown people and foreigners being attacked at will because of who they are or where they come from

[Beso]

They marched them up to the top of the hill, and they marched them down again.


https://youtu.be/rfMEeOTg4Ms?si=4DJRl3hIdVJHV0G5


Even bussed them out at the end.

[Cherie]

Albanians aren't brown lol

[bots]

The Good people of Epping should maybe swallow the assault of a young girl and ignore the hotel full of foreign men in their community because the real Far Right might turn up. The police know who are the lawless vigilantes and who are the ordinary worried families but they won't make a distinction. The police ushered Antifa protesters right into the middle of a peaceful protest. They must bear some responsibility for the protests that ensues.

the good people of epping should respect the law and use the proper lawful procedures at their disposal.

You do realise if this type of behaviour takes hold, law breaks down, and then everyone suffers. I really can't believe what i am reading here.

[arista]

They marched them up to the top of the hill, and they marched them down again.


https://youtu.be/rfMEeOTg4Ms?si=4DJRl3hIdVJHV0G5


Even bussed them out at the end.


Yes, Councillor Jaymey McIvor
from the next near council
was there talking towards the end
of the video
He is Reform UK.

[Livia]

the good people of epping should respect the law and use the proper lawful procedures at their disposal.

You do realise if this type of behaviour takes hold, law breaks down, and then everyone suffers. I really can't believe what i am reading here.

It sounds like, let you kids be assaulted, stay home, say nothing. The rights of the "asylum seekers" are greater than yours. The police will back them.

[bots]

It sounds like, let you kids be assaulted, stay home, say nothing. The rights of the "asylum seekers" are greater than yours. The police will back them.

it doesn't sound like that at all. What i'm hearing is someone that that doesn't respect the law of the land, and quite frankly, it is you that deserves to be locked up

[Cherie]

They marched them up to the top of the hill, and they marched them down again.


https://youtu.be/rfMEeOTg4Ms?si=4DJRl3hIdVJHV0G5


Even bussed them out at the end.

okay so I am only 12 minutes in but some off the counter protesters seem to be professional trouble makers, like the guy who the film maker met at the trans rights demo following him around and harrassing him....nice...but now he has a face mask on, .also the guy from Walthamstow took off when asked about the reason for the protest .ie the guy who has been charged with sexual assault, didn't want to talk about the reason, I dont agree with attacking the police or attacking anyone but the protest was pretty peaceful until the counter protesters arrived

[Cherie]

Putin and Iran must be looking at what is going on with glee

Has Starmer come out yet and called the peaceful protesters 'far right'

[arista]

Putin and Iran must be looking at what is going on with glee

Has Starmer come out yet and called the peaceful protesters 'far right'


No
PM is avoiding this

[Liam-]

Was it only yesterday you were accusing Livia of getting personal and that it was against the rules?

Yep, because both things were true, I’m just telling the truth based on her pattern of behaviour, besides, she constantly gets away with doing it so why not join in on the fun

[Cherie]

No
PM is avoiding this

lol bit hard to back a paedo I suppose

[Liam-]

Yes, peaceful protesters were attacking the police, very peaceful, very concerned

[Cherie]

Yes, peaceful protesters were attacking the police, very peaceful, very concerned

They was some pushing and shoving when the police let the counter protesters walk towards them, before that they were just milling around holding signs, there will always be an element who are only there to cause trouble, we shouldn't tar all with the same brush...remember

[Liam-]

Always everybody else’s fault but the thugs attacking people, it’s okay to be thugs as long as the thugs are white and targeting minorities

[Livia]

it doesn't sound like that at all. What i'm hearing is someone that that doesn't respect the law of the land, and quite frankly, it is you that deserves to be locked up

I see. Thanks for that.

[Vanessa]

I'm not surprised at all at the protests. People have had enough. I'm not anti immigration, but really against the violent ones. When are they going to start checking these people backgrounds?
We could be letting in all sorts of criminals if they don't check.

[Vanessa]

I'm all for Reform. Bring it on and I hope they win the next elections.

[Livia]

I'm all for Reform. Bring it on and I hope they win the next elections.

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

[Liam-]

I'm not surprised at all at the protests. People have had enough. I'm not anti immigration, but really against the violent ones. When are they going to start checking these people backgrounds?
We could be letting in all sorts of criminals if they don't check.

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

[Vanessa]

I feel sure they will. People are sick of it.

I have faith in them. Hopefully they will listen to the people.

[Vanessa]

Doesn’t like violent people but fully supports violent thugs attacking minorities and police, no surprises who you support

I don't. I think anyone who is violent should face the consequences. Anyone.

[Vanessa]

People have the right to protest peacefully. Those who cross the line will be dealt with.

[Liam-]

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

[joeysteele]

What was peaceful about multiple nights of these thugs attacking the police and assaulting random, innocent people purely because of the colour of their skin?

This is what reform supporters want and now it’s happening, like during the farage riots in Southport, it’s on people who purposefully whip up hatred towards minorities

I really have to say I agree with your stance here.

I've personally more stopped entering serious debates on here because it's far from being serious debates or any even reasoned debate.
It's just becoming a platform for more divisive in the main Reform Party viewpoint to be stoked up.
So it's best I avoid political issues on TIBB now

People dare not say anything about Israel or it's forces otherwise they're branded anti semetic
Which is a despicable accusation to fire out to other members.
Or in fact to anyone we don't know.
Yet it's almost being fired out like confetti.
Which is absolutely out of order to accuse others of being antisemitic

I've had it on and off for years, since 2016, simply because I supported Labour even during the time of Corbyn's leadership.

So I see no point in even trying to reason or post now on near all serious debates.

However supporting law breaking is both surprising and wrong
So looking in on this thread, just sighing and scratching my head at the Reform Party being presented as anything of any morals.
Certainly nothing moral about its only main anti immigration rhetoric.
So I just wanted to express agreement with yourself, (putting a crash helmet on as to the abuse that may possibly be levelled from Reform Party sympathisers), on this very sad and worrying situation of these awful events and lawbreaking in this area currently.

[Livia]

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is what reform supporters want

How on God's green earth do you know what Reform voters want?

incredible statement

:conf:

[Crimson Dynamo]

While I agree that the protest of ordinary people has been hijacked by thugs so that now ALL the protesters are tarred with the same brush, it makes me smile when I see people wringing their hands, moaning about Reform and saying NOT A WORD about the fact that this was all kicked off by yet another instance where someone here only 8 days, assaulted a schoolgirl. And it's not an isolated incident.

All that while overlooking the usual racist.posts from Liam.

and the fact you have people protesting about people protesting about a sexual assault on a child

and people on here are supporting that??

:umm2:

astounding

[Ninastar]

It reminds me of a time where I was on a local fb group and a young girl was warning others that she was being harassed by some guy in Leeds and wanted to warn others to be careful as he would not leave her alone.

She said that he was from Pakistan (maybe Afghanistan, I can’t remember it’s been over 10 years) and immediately people were like

YOURE BEING RACIST! WHY DOES IT MATTER WHERE HES FROM? HOW DO YOU KNOW THATS WHERE HES FROM? ANY EXCUSE TO HATE ON SOMEONE OF COLOUR etc etc

This girl was attacked relentlessly. She mentioned that he told her that’s where he was from and people were still furious. I felt so bad for her. She was only trying to warn other young girls/women that there was a guy who would not leave her alone/was following her etc

And I think that at the end of the day, people don’t realise that most women think that any man who doesn’t back down when they keep saying no no not interested, I have a boyfriend etc etc, think that they are going to end up being raped or assaulted by said male

Some cultures treat women horrifically. That is a fact. Most of these migrant men who are coming into the country are from these backwards countries that despise women (and the LGBT). They didn’t respect the women in their countries ans they certainly won’t respect them here. I actually think they have even less respect for British women (they see them as sluts/impure/unworthy of marriage/only to be used for sex (when and only when the men want it.

People are not wrong in saying that there are racist ***** who are taking advantage of a protest to scream their idiotic racial hate. But let’s not pretend that most protests have people using them as an excuse to commit crimes (London riots looting, BLM destroying black owned business etc etc)

I think essentially all points can be true. There ARE people who are furious that this is happening to the vulnerable in our society. There ARE also people who are using this just to hate on brown people for no reason. Both are true. But at the end of the day, surely the focus should be on the underage girl (I actually believe there were 2 in this case) and what we can do to stop it from ever happening again

Because the truth is this isn’t just a one time thing. It is constant and again, I don’t think people understand the scale on which these attacks are happening.

I know there was the Rotherham or Rochdale or something that states with R scandal. But it’s still happening constantly

I totally understand wanting to help people from war torn countries, especially when we are the ones who caused it. But letting in thousands and thousands of undocumented men is just not a good idea for anyone. And again, I want to know where the women and kids are? Why aren’t we keeping them safe? Why can’t we open our arms to them instead of the thousands of able bodied men?

[Ninastar]

Holy **** I am sorry for the essay

[Beso]

When the police facilitate outsiders to come to to your town and call you racist whilst you are protesting about a hotel housing illegal immigrants, where one of them has tried it on with a very young girl, you are obviously going to get an angry response.

The fact it's about kiddie fiddling makes it a just response. Of course some on here denounce any violence and don't see that there should ever be a reas9n to become violent.. unfortunately when it comes to kiddie fiddling, as this is what the protest was about until the police allowed it's disruption, when it comes to kiddie fiddling the majority of the public would and should be acceptable to violence towards the perpetratuer.

He wasn't around, so the police got it for facilitating the disruption of the peacefully process.


Simple human nature, and one to be proud of if you ask me.

[Beso]

Live tonight..

https://www.youtube.com/live/7aflVRiFyTM?si=VHrSPvR1SyufHLNv

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Kate!]

Holy **** I am sorry for the essay

It was great, very eloquent.

[Cherie]

Y37bre7lYL8

Shocking video

of people standing around peacefully protesting

putting illegals into hotels has failed, find an alternative, we have all these brilliant minds in government apparently who cant come up with a solution..the solution is not to put them in the middle of towns next to schools so your mates get their money for hotels and cheap labour

[Cherie]

6 arrests overnight, its done now, as usual these protest turn to shiz as outsiders latch on

[Cherie]

Nick Ferrari reported this morning that Essex police thanked the protesters on Thursday for peaceful protest, not been able to find any of this online naturally.....:umm2:

[Beso]

4 arrests on Sunday for violence on the Thursday, 2 arrested for damaging a police car.

One anti racism protestor who infiltrated the protest not arrested to prevent a breach of the peace like we have seen happen to pro Israelis at the pro Palestinian marches. Instead she was allowed to walk right into the middle of the protest to spew her views about the migrants towards some already het up mothers, before being ushered back down the road protected by about 100 officers..straight past the BBC cameras of course.

[Liam-]

There were actual full on Nazis there handing out fliers last night, yet more concerned local parents :joker:

[Livia]

If only people complained about you everytime you abused a member of this forum.

If the truth about your own behaviour is offensive, then maybe you should change your behaviour.

You've been allowed to carry on your anti-Semitic insults at me and are supported by the forum's admin. They must agree with you.

[Liam-]

I’ve asked you many times now to point out these supposed antisemitic remarks and you’ve consistently failed to do so, just accept that your lies aren’t effective anymore because people can see exactly what you’re about

[Beso]

There were actual full on Nazis there handing out fliers last night, yet more concerned local parents :joker:

There were 2 men dressed in brown shirts offering whites first propaganda leaflets.. they got the short sharp shrift from the protestor. Like your claim about the young lad in an earlier post...he was being challlenged fir being there, just like thede 2 were....not by the police, but by the locals

[Livia]

I’ve asked you many times now to point out these supposed antisemitic remarks and you’ve consistently failed to do so, just accept that your lies aren’t effective anymore because people can see exactly what you’re about

You don't need to be told how not to be islamaphobic, but you do for being anti-Semitic? You just don't like me and your racism against me feels justified to you and what's worse, it's being supported. Why did you bring up the fact I'm Jewish on this thread that has nothing to do with Jews? Go read you posts on the anti-Semitism thread where you don't differentiate between Jews and Israelis. You're the worst kind of racist, one who doesn't believe he is.

I'll leave you to continue your campaign, I can't bear to talk to you anymore.

[Liam-]

A perpetual victim, you’re exhausting, everything you don’t like is antisemitic and the powers that be have allowed you to run rough shot over this forum for far too long with your same tired routine of abusing and manipulating people with your false accusations, like I said, if you don’t like people recognising and calling out your pattern of behaviour, change your behaviour, it’s not up to anybody else to coddle you and treat you better than everyone else just because you demand it because of your religion

[Cherie]

Tommy Robinson is going to turn up at the weekend? This is not good Epping better lock down

https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=299&q=tommy+robinson+going+to+essex&cvid=c85352a4817244aa9da9ed4599c3f902&gs_lcrp=EgRlZGdlKgYIABBFGDkyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQABhAMg YIAhAAGEAyBggDEAAYQDIGCAQQABhAMgYIBRAAGEAyBggGEAAY QDIGCAcQABhAMgYICBAAGEDSAQg3MjIzajBqMagCCLACAQ&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=LCTS

I don't see the need for this any more than people coming from outside the area like Walthamstow, its a local issue, let the locals protest and lobby their MP ....if there is a riot the any leverage if they ever had any is lost

[Cherie]

There were actual full on Nazis there handing out fliers last night, yet more concerned local parents :joker:

why are you so dismissive of parents looking out for their girls, if gay people were being assaulted you wouldn't be quite so accommodating I am sure

These are quite worrying stats for WOMEN but you dont worry yourself about that you look after yourself and your virtuous stance

https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-assaults-committed

[Ninastar]

This is why I don’t like protesters. More than half of the time, they just want to cause a **** storm and then try and get away with it in the act of “justice”. Get over yourself, you’re just being a thug and getting away with it. Hopefully they get arrested before they can do any damage

[Cherie]

This is why I don’t like protesters. More than half of the time, they just want to cause a **** storm and then try and get away with it in the act of “justice”. Get over yourself, you’re just being a thug and getting away with it. Hopefully they get arrested before they can do any damage

I hope the locals tell him he is not welcome, they don't need him there, not sure who he thinks he is :shrug:

[Beso]

I hope the locals tell him he is not welcome, they don't need him there, not sure who he thinks he is :shrug:

Well they were all chanting his name, so maybe it was a call for help
:shrug:

[Cherie]

Well they were all chanting his name, so maybe it was a call for help
:shrug:

Well lets see how it all turns out then, its not like he has any influence and in fact including him will just make it worse, just listened to a woman who lives across from the Bell she said she felt safe with the protesters and all the police lets see if it remains

[Crimson Dynamo]

Former illegal migrant hotel caretaker speaks out, make of it what you will :shocked:

https://x.com/JournoJones05/status/1947264317910380789

[Cherie]

Former illegal migrant hotel caretaker speaks out, make of it what you will :shocked:

https://x.com/JournoJones05/status/1947264317910380789

I thought they got 10.00 a week, not 10.00 a day and Iphone or Samsung, can someone give me a free phone please :laugh:


Meanwhile we have no money so we will have to increase pension age to 110 because its just not sustainable to give out free money, what do you mean to had to pay into the system for 40 years to get it...its a BENEFIT

Bit suspicious though as this protest is the same day as Tommy visits Essex, are they organising mass protest :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

protest now in Diss

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[Cherie]

Governments are going to walk us into civil war

[MTVN]

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

[Cherie]

Say it loud, say it clear Refugees are welcome here...correct

Are there any refugees in the hotels though

[Cherie]

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

Definately something planned with all these protests popping up

[Liam-]

Governments are going to walk us into civil war

No, violent racist thugs are going to keep attacking people because they don’t like minorities

[Liam-]

Who organises these things these days? EDL aren't really a thing anymore but I know UKIP are trying to move to a street movement type organisation

There’s apparently apps out there where all the luckier daggers collect and organise riots across the country, professional agitators

[Cherie]

No, violent racist thugs are going to keep attacking people because they don’t like minorities

People are sick to death of their quality of life diminishing because the government has not got enough money, the majority of these people could be processed and allowed to work legally but that wouldn't suit the hotel owners, longest asylum process in Europe, the country is a joke led by a clown

First it was the pensioners who were targetted
Then the farmers
then the disabled
now future pensioners....

no wonder the young aren't keen on working

kinda against your narrative that it was mainly older men and women in the counter protest in Diss...

[Glenn.]

�� UK Government Spending (2024–25)

Ranked by Amount Spent
1. Social protection (pensions, benefits) – £313 billion
2. Health (NHS) – £193 billion
3. Debt interest payments – £110 billion
4. Education – £89 billion
5. Transport & infrastructure – £45 billion
6. Public order & safety (police, justice) – £45 billion
7. Housing & communities – £38 billion
8. Defence – £37.6 billion
9. Science, research & digital – £17 billion
10. Environmental protection – £14 billion
11. Foreign aid – £7.5 billion
12. Culture, media & sport – £7 billion
13. Illegal immigration (estimated total) – £5 billion

The maths isn’t mathing

[Cherie]

�� UK Government Spending (2024–25)

Ranked by Amount Spent
1. Social protection (pensions, benefits) – £313 billion
2. Health (NHS) – £193 billion
3. Debt interest payments – £110 billion
4. Education – £89 billion
5. Transport & infrastructure – £45 billion
6. Public order & safety (police, justice) – £45 billion
7. Housing & communities – £38 billion
8. Defence – £37.6 billion
9. Science, research & digital – £17 billion
10. Environmental protection – £14 billion
11. Foreign aid – £7.5 billion
12. Culture, media & sport – £7 billion
13. Illegal immigration (estimated total) – £5 billion

The maths isn’t mathing

Think you will find illegal immigration is part of social care not a separate issue, notice it is the only one with an estimated total as well lol

The government could take the heat out of the situation and make a statement to the effect that they are working on a solution as per their manifesto promise but so far just radio silence, think they want it to kick off

[Beso]

A nice video of an ex addicts recovery. A walk and a chat round blackburn, including exclusive access to that Muslim ceremony where they all slap their bare chests.


Very insightful Muslim input.

https://youtu.be/gtCn0JAcnuM?si=DvkY9S415oFCmXxm

[Glenn.]

Think you will find illegal immigration is part of social care not a separate issue, notice it is the only one with an estimated total as well lol

The government could take the heat out of the situation and make a statement to the effect that they are working on a solution as per their manifesto promise but so far just radio silence, think they want it to kick off

It’s not included in social care. It is in fact a separate issue.

You see you’re angry at the immigrants because they want you to be angry at the immigrants.

[Cherie]

And I hope you realise Glenn that alot of illegal migrants who come here end up on benefits, so will be part of No. 1 on your list...

[MTVN]

There’s apparently apps out there where all the luckier daggers collect and organise riots across the country, professional agitators

Probably a lot of the same people who were National Front in the 90s, BNP in the noughties, EDL in the 2010s

I do sympathise with the broader issue but there's always so many dodgy characters trying to take advantage

[Glenn.]

And I hope you realise Glenn that alot of illegal migrants who come here end up on benefits, so will be part of No. 1 on your list...

They’ll join the rest of people born and bred in the country then won’t they. But still very separate.

You claim there’s no money for pensioners and yet we spend more money on pensioners than anything else.

[Cherie]

It’s not included in social care. It is in fact a separate issue.

You see you’re angry at the immigrants because they want you to be angry at the immigrants.

You misunderstand but that is natural, I am not angry with immigrants, I am angry at the toothless incompetent government who have given their mates 10 year hotel contracts and cheap labour ...you are welcome

[Cherie]

They’ll join the rest of people born and bred in the country then won’t they. But still very separate.

You claim there’s no money for pensioners and yet we spend more money on pensioners than anything else.

Do we, how do you make that out, we have the lowest pension rate in Europe, the triple lock was brought in to bring pensioners in line with Europe, still lagging behind. I don't claim it your government took away their winter fuel allowance

[Liam-]

You misunderstand but that is natural, I am not angry with immigrants, I am angry at the toothless incompetent government who have given their mates 10 year hotel contracts and cheap labour ...you are welcome

I don’t seem to recall you ever being this angry when migrants were in hotels under the tories, must be a new thing you’re suddenly paying attention to for some reason

[Glenn.]

Do we, how do you make that out, we have the lowest pension rate in Europe, the triple lock was brought in to bring pensioners in line with Europe, still lagging behind. I don't claim it your government took away their winter fuel allowance


Did you read the list I posted? You can read the amounts paid yeah? I mean it’s there in black and white.

[Cherie]

Probably a lot of the same people who were National Front in the 90s, BNP in the noughties, EDL in the 2010s

I do sympathise with the broader issue but there's always so many dodgy characters trying to take advantage

Yeah its a gift to the bad actors in all this

[Cherie]

I don’t seem to recall you ever being this angry when migrants were in hotels under the tories, must be a new thing you’re suddenly paying attention to for some reason

I believe I was? You just need to go back over my posts, this government came in with a manifesto pledge to smash the gangs, how is that going for you?

[Beso]

A group of worried mothers and fathers have organised this protest, after complaints from their children.

[Cherie]

Did you read the list I posted? You can read the amounts paid yeah? I mean it’s there in black and white.

Pensions and benefits lumped together, yes it is there, can you tell me which costs more? State pension is not a benefit or at least it wasn't until governments tried to lump it in with benefits, anyone can claim benefits, you need to have worked for 35 years and paid in to get a full state pension, it is not a benefit, people have worked for it

[Cherie]

Well I say anyone can claim benefits, I know numerous people who have been made redundant but couldn't claim anything until they had run through their redundancy

[Glenn.]

Pensions and benefits lumped together, yes it is there, can you tell me which costs more? State pension is not a benefit or at least it wasn't until governments tried to lump it in with benefits, anyone can claim benefits, you need to have worked for 35 years and paid in to get a full state pension, it is not a benefit, people have worked for it


Pensioner Spending
£174.9 billion
Working-Age Benefits
£141.2 billion
Disability & Health Benefits
£75.3 billion
Housing Support
£35.3 billion
Total
£426.7 billion

[bots]

The state pension is an investment account that people pay into throughout their working lives, they then get that pot that they paid into back in a monthly payout when they retire. It's not a handout by government

[Cherie]

The state pension is an investment account that people pay into throughout their working lives, they then get that pot that they paid into back in a monthly payout when they retire. It's not a handout by government

And that is why it is so disingenous to lump it in with benefits
Next they will be telling us that Occupational Pensions are a benefit because we pay in to those too, as does the employer

State pension is only paid as a benefit if the recipient has never worked

[Crimson Dynamo]

These protests primarily are about the safety of women and young girls. Would anyone like to attach a "cost" to that?

[Cherie]

Pensioner Spending
£174.9 billion
Working-Age Benefits
£141.2 billion
Disability & Health Benefits
£75.3 billion
Housing Support
£35.3 billion
Total
£426.7 billion

These total the same as pensions, and most people on working age benefits will be in receipt of housing support, as previously stated pensions are paid for through your NI taken every month so they are not a benefit

The government love to tell you that pensioners are costing the earth when in fact they are just taking back pensions they paid into just like an occupational pension which is what successive governments have promised to do

[Cherie]

These protests primarily are about the safety of women and young girls. Would anyone like to attach a "cost" to that?

err...tuppence

[Glenn.]

These total the same as pensions, and most people on working age benefits will be in receipt of housing support, as previously stated pensions are paid for through your NI taken every month so they are not a benefit

The government love to tell you that pensioners are costing the earth when in fact they are just taking back pensions they paid into just like an occupational pension which is what successive governments have promised to do

NI doesn’t go into some magic pension piggy bank with your name on it. It pays current pensioners. Always has. When you retire, it’ll be the next lot paying yours.

And like it or not, pensions are classed as benefits in the spending breakdown. £175 billion is still public money going out.

Also, saying most on benefits get housing support doesn’t cancel anything out, that’s just even more being spent.

[Beso]

The state pension is an investment account that people pay into throughout their working lives, they then get that pot that they paid into back in a monthly payout when they retire. It's not a handout by government

Can I get it in one lump sum then please.

[arista]

Over 150,
illegal migrants brought into Dover.


on Sunday Night


BBC reported

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250722/caaccd5b2e49520861a15e642933aa2e.jpg
:skull:

[bots]

must be from Cornwall

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250722/caaccd5b2e49520861a15e642933aa2e.jpg
:skull:

Blame the woke schools and Marxist teachers

[Glenn.]

Blame the woke schools and Marxist teachers


Oh sweetie they haven’t been to school for a few decades. If at all.

[Ninastar]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250722/caaccd5b2e49520861a15e642933aa2e.jpg
:skull:

Omg dead :hehe:

I mean the point still stands but Jesus Christ how embarrassing

[arista]

T.Robinson due on Friday


Another Demo due on Sunday


Ref:ITV1HD London News

[Beso]

Omg dead :hehe:

I mean the point still stands but Jesus Christ how embarrassing

Its how essex pronounces, our.

[Oliver_W]

If the (attempted/) molesters were publicly named and shamed, and deported, I'd put money on the protests dwindling right down.

Why should they be enabled to take up time and money in our legal system when they should barely be here in the first place?

[Cherie]

Britannia Hotel Canary Wharf now although its unclear if there are any migrants staying there, apparently someone threw eggs from an upstairs window :laugh:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2085487/london-migrant-protest-live-britannia

A video posted on social media shows eggs being thrown from a window at the hotel. Meanwhile, the protesters have been heard shouting "Keir Starmer is a w*****" as they gather outside the hotel.

[Beso]

Britannia Hotel Canary Wharf now although its unclear if there are any migrants staying there, apparently someone threw eggs from an upstairs window :laugh:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2085487/london-migrant-protest-live-britannia

A video posted on social media shows eggs being thrown from a window at the hotel. Meanwhile, the protesters have been heard shouting "Keir Starmer is a w*****" as they gather outside the hotel.

Follow the citizens instead....worth rewinding this live feed 10 mins to listen to a 17yr olds view of things.

https://www.youtube.com/live/_5gin-sEvsc?si=rRyYYnJRJVsSiXUE

[Cherie]

Follow the citizens instead....worth rewinding this live feed 10 mins to listen to a 17yr olds view of things.

https://www.youtube.com/live/_5gin-sEvsc?si=rRyYYnJRJVsSiXUE

The people in Epping will be happy looks like that hotel will be empty

bloody hell the guy who turned up who had a room booked :skull:

so skipping through the video, numerous people turned up to find the hotel they had booked for their holiday had been taken over and today is the day Angela Rayner is pushing for a tourist tax, you will be lucky to have any tourists if London gets a reputation for not honouring bookings

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh sweetie they haven’t been to school for a few decades. If at all.

bollocks luv

3 kids

iv been in more schools and meetings etc in the last 20 odd years than you can dream about

lol when were you last in school, the 80s?
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/1f/34/18/1f3418a18ba6f6ceeaf37381cfccc182.jpg

:joker:

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b46aa02f-39fd-4f4a-be35-a6471c630d7b.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police have admitted escorting pro-migrant protesters to an asylum hotel at the centre of days of volatile demonstrations.

Essex Police initially denied that it had brought activists from the group Stand up to
Racism to the Bell Hotel in Epping amid claims by anti-migrant protesters that the arrival
of counter-demonstrators sparked the violence on July 17.

However, the force backtracked after being shown footage of the protesters being
escorted by officers from a nearby station to the hotel.

:whistle:

[Beso]

Nothing has changed..police still willling to lie to the public and cover things up until found out..

Acab.

[Beso]

Ther Americanisation of the British far right needs to be studied, the police let in antifa so they could start a riot? Jesus :joker:


Alll the evidence was posted for you, but you still didn't believe it cause the police were lying to you. Still stand by this now the truths out, do you?

[Beso]

the good people of epping should respect the law and use the proper lawful procedures at their disposal.

You do realise if this type of behaviour takes hold, law breaks down, and then everyone suffers. I really can't believe what i am reading here.

When the law lie and break the law what on earth do you expect to happen!!

[bots]

When the law lie and break the law what on earth do you expect to happen!!

i expect people to use the proper procedures to complain about the police etc. Thats what the procedures are there for

[Beso]

i expect people to use the proper procedures to complain about the police etc. Thats what the procedures are there for

Ah you mean they should report the police, to the police.


How do you think that usually turns out When they lie to our faces.

[Cherie]

Nothing has changed..police still willling to lie to the public and cover things up until found out..

Acab.

Two tier, but that doesn't happen right

[Cherie]

i expect people to use the proper procedures to complain about the police etc. Thats what the procedures are there for

Can you imagine the frustration, you are standing there protesting about a paedo and unvetted men put in your community, and the police march a counter protest to your face so it increases tension and starts aggro, the government have put these people there, where on earth do you turn :shrug: There is no law against peaceful protest, and I think that is the issue here, it was peaceful and we can't be having that, the police need it to kick off so the media can report the original protesters as the far right and protest can be shut down

[Crimson Dynamo]

the Police Chief of Epping was the same chap who sent the cops round to Allison Pearson's house (Telegraph journo) for a year old tweet that both had a correct community note attached to it and Pearson had deleted when she realized it was incorrect.

[Oliver_W]

Police have admitted escorting pro-migrant protesters to an asylum hotel at the centre of days of volatile demonstrations.

Essex Police initially denied that it had brought activists from the group Stand up to
Racism to the Bell Hotel in Epping amid claims by anti-migrant protesters that the arrival
of counter-demonstrators sparked the violence on July 17.

However, the force backtracked after being shown footage of the protesters being
escorted by officers from a nearby station to the hotel.

:whistle:

What would that even achieve?

Was the protest mostly peaceful before the masked ones arrived?

[Cherie]

What would that even achieve?

Was the protest mostly peaceful before the masked ones arrived?

Yes

[bots]

Can you imagine the frustration, you are standing there protesting about a paedo and unvetted men put in your community, and the police march a counter protest to your face so it increases tension and starts aggro, the government have put these people there, where on earth do you turn :shrug: There is no law against peaceful protest, and I think that is the issue here, it was peaceful and we can't be having that, the police need it to kick off so the media can report the original protesters as the far right and protest can be shut down

the police have many faults, but it would be a hell of a lot worse if vigilantes were allowed free reign

[Oliver_W]

I can't think of any justification for escorting the "counter" protesters there, what could it possibly achieve?

[Cherie]

I can't think of any justification for escorting the "counter" protesters there, what could it possibly achieve?

Tension, its like keeping football fans apart, what is the reason for that, so that there is less violence, its clear the police needed some violence so they could arrest a few people and change the narrative

[Cherie]

the police have many faults, but it would be a hell of a lot worse if vigilantes were allowed free reign

I don't think the main protest was vigilantes, if T Robinson turns up with his mob all bets are off though

[Glenn.]

Can you imagine the frustration, you are standing there protesting about a paedo and unvetted men put in your community, and the police march a counter protest to your face so it increases tension and starts aggro, the government have put these people there, where on earth do you turn :shrug: There is no law against peaceful protest, and I think that is the issue here, it was peaceful and we can't be having that, the police need it to kick off so the media can report the original protesters as the far right and protest can be shut down


Where are the protests for the British paedos?

[Cherie]

Where are the protests for the British paedos?

you are really reaching now... its really interesting that you are more interested in a bench and being the grammar police than a 14 year old girl, I would imagine if it were a 14 year old boy you would be on page 60 by now of grieving like you were with the bench

[Beso]

Where are the protests for the British paedos?

People call them paedo hunters and they can be found on social media doing the job for the police.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where are the protests for the British paedos?

Are you not aware of the proliferation of paedo hunters who uncover hundreds of paedos a month and hand them over to police?

they even catch MP's

https://www.tiktok.com/@spottednews/video/7459001919948868896?q=hunters&t=1753264846694

[Cherie]

A very eloquent woman who puts it all in a nutshell

No services, but just pile in more people to stretch them even further

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/moment-pensioner-at-london-migrant-protest-vents-fury-starmer-will-be-worried/ar-AA1J84qC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=9e8ef3479afd412a8dafb51d14dd0554&ei=5

[Glenn.]

you are really reaching now... its really interesting that you are more interested in a bench and being the grammar police than a 14 year old girl, I would imagine if it were a 14 year old boy you would be on page 60 by now of grieving like you were with the bench

Ah, the classic deflection, can’t answer the question so you pivot to benches and made-up scenarios. I’m asking where the outrage is for British paedophiles, not for your fictional tantrum. Funny how some only find their moral compass when they think it points at foreigners.

[Cherie]

Ah, the classic deflection, can’t answer the question so you pivot to benches and made-up scenarios. I’m asking where the outrage is for British paedophiles, not for your fictional tantrum. Funny how some only find their moral compass when they think it points at foreigners.

Yadda Yadda the desperation to call me a racist, water off a ducks back I am afraid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Glenn Ah, the classic deflection



Also GlennWhere are the protests for the British paedos?


https://media.invisioncic.com/Mrangmedia/emoticons/craphead.gif

[bots]

like it or not, immigrants are now associated with sexual assault and worse, and it's not without numerous verified examples. It's also not helped by the fact that boats are predominantly filled with single young men rather than with families.

I don't know what procedures they go through on arrival, but i think at a minimum everyone that arrives without documentation should be fitted with an ankle monitor. There is plenty justification for that

[arista]

Reports another protest,
in a Norfolk Hotel


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1947401455041671168/IY3zdL0t?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/LizKershawDJ/status/1947973172793639397?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Glenn.]

Yadda Yadda the desperation to call me a racist, water off a ducks back I am afraid

Let’s be crystal clear: I’m not excusing what happened to that girl. It’s horrific, and whoever’s responsible should face the full force of the law. But let’s not pretend the riots were about protecting her. They weren’t. They were about hate, an excuse to kick off, throw bricks, and shout abuse at anyone who didn’t look British enough.

If these people genuinely cared about child safety, they’d be protesting all paedophiles, including the countless British men convicted every year. But no, that doesn’t generate the same tribal rage, does it?

Rioting solves nothing. It doesn’t bring justice, it fuels division, distracts from facts, and turns serious issues into ugly, racist mob scenes. So no, I won’t pretend those riots were noble. They were ugly, and they helped no one, least of all the victim.

[Beso]

What riots?

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250723/a3059b66784ec39208a6adead73bb2f5.jpg

“Peaceful protests”

[Cherie]

A very eloquent woman who puts it all in a nutshell

No services, but just pile in more people to stretch them even further

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/travel/news/moment-pensioner-at-london-migrant-protest-vents-fury-starmer-will-be-worried/ar-AA1J84qC?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=9e8ef3479afd412a8dafb51d14dd0554&ei=5

what riots? you are concentrating on a few scumbags at Epping while ignoring the peaceful majority, why is that?

Don't get me wrong the police and the government are desperate for riots so they can shut down protests, why else would they escort counter protesters (or professional agitators) to confront them

[Oliver_W]

Where are the protests for the British paedos?

You make it sound like British paedos are accepted - in prison they have to be put in a separate wing for their own protection; they get the mob-and-pitchfork treatment whenever they're moved into a neighbourhood with families; and the very accusation ruins people's lives.

That's where the protests are - baked into our very hearts and norms. Unlike countries where sexual assault of young girls is tolerated and widespread. Norms which seem to be trickling over here.

[arista]

Police Chief Angry

Talking to press Live SkyNewsHD

[Crimson Dynamo]

Four-star hotel in Canary Wharf earmarked for asylum seekers

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2025/07/23/TELEMMGLPICT000433275657_17532623957140_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqD3d2dmOlWYuQkR76XZjLQKOylOV7i1cNNz18XOj47v E.jpeg?imwidth=500

According to Tower Hamlets council, Labour intends to repurpose the London
hotel as temporary accommodation for asylum seekers.

On Wednesday morning, workers were pictured wheeling beds and mattresses
into the hotel.

A spokesman for the authority said: “We are aware of the Government’s
decision to use the Britannia Hotel in Canary Wharf to provide temporary
accommodation for asylum seekers.

“It is important that the Government ensures that there is a full package of
support for those staying at the hotel.

“We are working with the Home Office and partners to make sure that all
necessary safety and safeguarding arrangements are in place.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/23/four-star-hotel-canary-wharf-earmarked-asylum-seeker/

[Glenn.]

You make it sound like British paedos are accepted - in prison they have to be put in a separate wing for their own protection; they get the mob-and-pitchfork treatment whenever they're moved into a neighbourhood with families; and the very accusation ruins people's lives.

That's where the protests are - baked into our very hearts and norms. Unlike countries where sexual assault of young girls is tolerated and widespread. Norms which seem to be trickling over here.

You’re describing consequences, not protests. And that’s exactly the point. British paedophiles face shame after the fact, quietly, behind prison walls or in tabloid headlines. There are no mobs, no riots, no flaming bins in the street demanding justice, unless the accused is foreign.

So let’s not pretend this is about some deeply held moral code. If it were, the outrage would be consistent. Instead, it’s selective, loudest when there’s a scapegoat with a different accent. That’s not “baked-in values,” that’s opportunistic rage dressed up as virtue.

[arista]

He will not limit politicians

10 Arrested

Chief Constable Ben-Julian Harrington
spoke to all the press of TV and Radio


SkyNewsHD Live

[Oliver_W]

You’re describing consequences, not protests. And that’s exactly the point. British paedophiles face shame after the fact, quietly, behind prison walls or in tabloid headlines. There are no mobs, no riots, no flaming bins in the street demanding justice, unless the accused is foreign.

So let’s not pretend this is about some deeply held moral code. If it were, the outrage would be consistent. Instead, it’s selective, loudest when there’s a scapegoat with a different accent. That’s not “baked-in values,” that’s opportunistic rage dressed up as virtue.

Well in the case of British paedos, what is there to protest, specifically? They're not illegally entering a country and then being housed for free.

[arista]

Police Chief
said they did not bring anti-protestors
people to the Hotel.


They did remove them in their vans


One Illegal Migrant arrested

[Cherie]

Four-star hotel in Canary Wharf earmarked for asylum seekers

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2025/07/23/TELEMMGLPICT000433275657_17532623957140_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqD3d2dmOlWYuQkR76XZjLQKOylOV7i1cNNz18XOj47v E.jpeg?imwidth=500

According to Tower Hamlets council, Labour intends to repurpose the London
hotel as temporary accommodation for asylum seekers.

On Wednesday morning, workers were pictured wheeling beds and mattresses
into the hotel.

A spokesman for the authority said: “We are aware of the Government’s
decision to use the Britannia Hotel in Canary Wharf to provide temporary
accommodation for asylum seekers.

“It is important that the Government ensures that there is a full package of
support for those staying at the hotel.

“We are working with the Home Office and partners to make sure that all
necessary safety and safeguarding arrangements are in place.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/23/four-star-hotel-canary-wharf-earmarked-asylum-seeker/

Parmy posted a video of this last night, this was so sudden visitors to London were turning up at the hotel only to be locked out with no explanation, on the same day Angela Rayner was pushing for a tourist tax :joker:

[Glenn.]

Well in the case of British paedos, what is there to protest, specifically? They're not illegally entering a country and then being housed for free.

You’ve just confirmed exactly what I was saying: it’s not about the crime, it’s about the convenient outrage when the accused isn’t British. When a British man abuses a child, it’s prison and disgust. When it’s a migrant, suddenly it’s banners, riots, and “send them back” chants.

So no, this isn’t about child protection. It’s about weaponising tragedy to push an agenda. If it were truly about the victims, the protests would be just as loud no matter who committed the crime. But we both know they’re not.

[Cherie]

The Chief of Essex Police has now publically thanked the people of Epping for their peaceful protest, doesn't sound like a riot to me.

10 people were arrested, we don't know who they are protesters, counter protesters, paid agitators

[Crimson Dynamo]

Parmy posted a video of this last night, this was so sudden visitors to London were turning up at the hotel only to be locked out with no explanation, on the same day Angela Rayner was pushing for a tourist tax :joker:

Have all the hotel staff now been sacked/let go?

[Cherie]

Have all the hotel staff now been sacked/let go?

Yes he interviewed a woman who was shaking as she had just lost her job with no notice .....what a government we have, get to work...ooooh

[Oliver_W]

Parmy posted a video of this last night, this was so sudden visitors to London were turning up at the hotel only to be locked out with no explanation, on the same day Angela Rayner was pushing for a tourist tax :joker:

As gross as it is that such nice hotels are being wasted thusly ... I'd rather it be people who can likely afford a last minute room elsewhere, than those who had to scrimp and save to get a Travelodge or something, and could never afford something else at that notice.

[Cherie]

As gross as it is that such nice hotels are being wasted thusly ... I'd rather it be people who can likely afford a last minute room elsewhere, than those who had to scrimp and save to get a Travelodge or something, and could never afford something else at that notice.

These were people who had prior bookings, but had received no notification from the hotel, I guess the sacked staff were a bit annoyed so didn't bother?

A Pakistani man, two sets of Chinese couples and a young man on his own I am sure there were many more, the young man said he has paid 80.00 so its wasn't exactly expensive for Canary Wharf


Can you imagine landing after a long flight, making your way to your hotel in the evening and not even getting an explanation, the doors were locked and the people inside had probably no clue what to say

[Crimson Dynamo]

i expect people to use the proper procedures to complain about the police etc. Thats what the procedures are there for

The Government has agreed for the Essex County Council elections in 2025 to
be suspended in light of the proposed Local Government Reform and the
creation of an Essex Mayor.

The County Council elections in May 2025 will now not go ahead. There are no
planned elections in the Epping Forest district until 2026 following last years all
out elections.

:whistle:

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-18dc301a-6bd5-4682-8c36-0864b2029fec.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-14507af1-0738-4418-a735-928fbef4b64b.png


Not all are Neo Nazi there.

Some are just mothers

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b5383997-013d-4aa8-9fcb-584a144aa2f9.png

[arista]

Criminal Illegal Migrants


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/7cb1/live/4da036b0-68da-11f0-89ea-4d6f9851f623.jpg.webp

[Livia]

Drive them straight down to the airport and send them back to their home country. IDGAF if they'll be in danger, which they probably won't be... they've lost the right to be here and should never be allowed back.

The police won't be interested in arresting this scum... they've proved they're actually on their side.

[Zizu]

Radio news this morning reported that currently 70% of shop/ store thefts are by illegals !!

Or was it 70% of thefts in London are related to mobiles ?

Who knows … maybe both


Don’t shoot the messenger !


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[arista]

The Local Council has voted
to close the Hotel.

In the UK 38,000 Illegal Migrants are in our hotels


LBC Live Debate on now

[Beso]

A few small protests in Leeds, Norwich and somewhere else.

Glasgow live tomorrow.

Scottish polis take no ****. Should be interesting to see how the citizen journalists travelling up from england get on.


Football season coming up soon.

Interesting opinion ...funny how you never hear about football thugs fighting immigrants on a Saturday afternoon, considering the name they get on here. Maybe now there is a massively more visible presence in the town centres of immigrants since last summer things may be different this year. Will the police cope,?


I'm expecting very visible high sentences for anyone involved in trouble up to kick off day to deter anyone on a Saturday from kicking off with the immigrants instead of the locals...Burnley, Leeds and Sunderland being visited by every massive team in the land, with the likes of Chelsea amd west ham. Bournmouths turned shite as well, almost unrecognizable.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwzyW4cXsAAtxjc?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bb651ea0-4025-4497-bfbc-9c89246c299f.png

[Mystic Mock]

the Police Chief of Epping was the same chap who sent the cops round to Allison Pearson's house (Telegraph journo) for a year old tweet that both had a correct community note attached to it and Pearson had deleted when she realized it was incorrect.

The Chief is a bit of a power hungry douchebag I take it?

[Mystic Mock]

like it or not, immigrants are now associated with sexual assault and worse, and it's not without numerous verified examples. It's also not helped by the fact that boats are predominantly filled with single young men rather than with families.

I don't know what procedures they go through on arrival, but i think at a minimum everyone that arrives without documentation should be fitted with an ankle monitor. There is plenty justification for that

Plus we do need to do background checks, before even considering letting any of the illegal immigrants to stay in the country for a prolonged period of time.

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwzyW4cXsAAtxjc?format=jpg&name=small

A possible slippery slope once again.

I have said it before and I will say it again, we need our Police force to be focused on catching these people called criminals. And criminals tend to like to get violent towards other people.

Starmer, Labour, and the Police all need to get that into their thick skulls.

Nobody wants people who make "offensive tweets" in jail over violent criminals, absolutely nobody.

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GwzyW4cXsAAtxjc?format=jpg&name=small

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bb651ea0-4025-4497-bfbc-9c89246c299f.png

Gosh, imagine if the police had redirected that energy to monitoring ... the migrants?

Would save on a lot of sexual assault.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"an elite team of police officers"

:rolleyes:

But

There was no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting the Southport victims.

There was no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting the Grooming gang victims.

There is no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting our borders.

But now there is an ‘Elite police Squad’ monitoring your opinions on X


Do you find that odd?

[arista]

"an elite team of police officers"

:rolleyes:

But

There was no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting the Southport victims.

There was no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting the Grooming gang victims.

There is no ‘Elite police Squad’ protecting our borders.

But now there is an ‘Elite police Squad’ monitoring your opinions on X


Do you find that odd?


Yes, maybe they are now watching this
Badly Titled Thread

[arista]

Illegal Migrants
are given a pre-paid card
£7 a day
which many are spending in Gambling Shops


Ref : Camilla Politics Show GBnewsHD Live

[Beso]

Illegal Migrants
are given a pre-paid card
£7 a day
which many are spending in Gambling Shops


Ref : Camilla Politics Show GBnewsHD Live

I made TIBB aware of this about 2 years ago....nobody believed me.

[arista]

I made TIBB aware of this about 2 years ago....nobody believed me.


Today it is in the Sunday National Newspapers.


Of course it is the Pre-Paid Cash Card
that is being wasted in Betting Shops


Labour must deal with this long-standing error

[Cherie]

Yes, maybe they are now watching this
Badly Titled Thread

:joker:

Why do they need to be 'Elite' to monitor posts...dear me

[Ninastar]

Illegal Migrants
are given a pre-paid card
£7 a day
which many are spending in Gambling Shops


Ref : Camilla Politics Show GBnewsHD Live

I know it’s free money but what can you do with £7 a day? Is that all they get?

[arista]

I know it’s free money but what can you do with £7 a day? Is that all they get?

What you call Free Money
is UK Tax Payers to the Labour Government
Hard workers paying tax



You are aware they get Free Food at their Hotel.

They get a lot more Cash on a Pre- Paid Cash Card
each month,

The Labour Party are not willing to debate this

[Livia]

I know it’s free money but what can you do with £7 a day? Is that all they get?

It's not bad considering all their other expenses are covered, rent, utilities, food, phone... There are plenty of people who'd love a spare £7 a day.

[Ninastar]

It's not bad considering all their other expenses are covered, rent, utilities, food, phone... There are plenty of people who'd love a spare £7 a day.

I thought about that too. And I also have to consider how many people there are that get that.

[Ninastar]

I probably would spend it on lottery tickets or something too, tbh

[Oliver_W]

I know it’s free money but what can you do with £7 a day? Is that all they get?

It's not bad considering all their other expenses are covered, rent, utilities, food, phone... There are plenty of people who'd love a spare £7 a day.

Yeah it's taxpayer money basically going to waste for no reason.