Prince Harry and Meghan have stepped back as Senior Members of the royal family

[thesheriff443]

...yeah, the worry is that the negative press attention will increase now in reality...hell hath no fury like a hounding media scorned...

Questions will be asked when it’s tax payers money that’s been spent.

Would they be walking away if they had been embraced like William and Kate.

Let’s face it she came into a well established oraganisation and started making demands.

She couldn’t get her own way, so she is leaving.

[Ammi]

...I wonder how that extra cash stash will be distributed now...maybe the other Royals will get a lovely, unexpected bonus, like Greggs staff...

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/00A5/production/_110456100_daily-mail-10-jan.jpg


So she was only back in the UK for a few days
then goes back to Canada.

[AnnieK]

And it's utter BS about the Queen not knowing , of course she knew come on now let's not be silly :crazy: . They would of had to consult her and this would of most definitely been in the works for a while, there's no way they sprung this on her out the blue .

Then there's the whole process of sorting things out . Just because it's now "official" doesn't mean it was a sudden bombshell they dropped .

And obviously the media will report it , so how were they going to step down without them knowing?? so i don't understand why people are saying they should of done it quietly :facepalm: . If you're in the public eye with this much fame under this much scrutiny and pressure how can something like this be kept a secret?? . Obviously the media will continue to throw hate sadly Harry & Meghan's way .

Harry was thinking about his family especially Meghan and he doesn't want her to go down the same route as his mum and they have their child to think about aswell , it was horrific the treatment Diana got. And Meghan has already received a ridiculous amount of abuse where she can't win no matter what she does.

Unfortunately i don't think they'll ever be able to live a quiet peaceful life as they'll always be apart of the royal family as it comes with the title sadly . And the press will continue to harass them. I just hope it's not as bad as it's been and hopefully when they settle wherever they decide to live things will calm down etc .

The press have said the Queen did know of their intentions, what she didn't know was of the press release coming when it did.

They need to move this on quite quickly or the backlash will only get worse.

I hope wherever they end up, they will be happy although they will never be able to live the quiet life I think Harry craves. I think they could have handled this better by doing it all behind closed doors and slowly extracting themselves from Royal life and scaling back on their but now these wheels are in motion, it needs to be a quick clean break.

They seem to be completely in love with each other and excellent parents so I hope they can carve out the life they want away from the constant media intrusion

[Ammi]

...OMG, she left Archie In Canada to be with Harry in the U.K....!!!!...OMG, she’ left Harry in the U.K. to be with Archie in Canada...!!!!!...

[thesheriff443]

Also people are quick to forget the pictures of Kate harry and William together smiling and happy.

The fall out is due to Megan plain and simple.

[arista]

...OMG, she left Archie In Canada to be with Harry in the U.K....!!!!...OMG, she’s going back to Archie in Canada And leaving Harry in the U.K...!!!!!...


Typical of the American Meghan,


Yes leave Harry to talk to the Queen
is far better.

You can not have a Half in , Half out
Royal Family.
So best they take away their Titles

[arista]

Also people are quick to forget the pictures of Kate harry and William together smiling and happy.

The fall out is due to Megan plain and simple.


Bang On Right thesheriff

[Ammi]

Typical of the American Meghan,


Yes leave Harry to talk to the Queen
is far better.

You can not have a Half in , Half out
Royal Family.
So best they take away their Titles


...far better that a solution is discussed in how this will all work out for them all in their way forward...maybe there can be a ‘half in/half out’ way, we don’t know that there can’t be and that it can’t be worked out to fit with everyone’s Royal future and personal needs...?....the truth of it is, without the younger generation Royals...(...which has always been a huge part of the country and world interest..)...the future of the monarchy is most definitely in question...trying to find a solution and preserve, makes sense over...‘let’s take it all away and take that, you two..’....you know that’s the wise move, Arista...

[arista]

"the future of the monarchy is most definitely in question"

Rubbish
its one American Women
buggering up our System.

[Ammi]

..rubbish...it must be quite the shaky old, fragile system if one American woman could bugger it up...

[Cherie]

...I wonder how that extra cash stash will be distributed now...maybe the other Royals will get a lovely, unexpected bonus, like Greggs staff...

They cash they want to relinquish which is paid from the public purse is 5% of their income, the remaining 95% is from Charles estate, if they give it up it stays in the Treasury I assume

[Cherie]

what I find very distasteful in all this is what Harry is doing to his Grandmother, Grandfather and father, taking away the Royal status, if this was an ordinary family, given Philip is in ill health, Liz is 93 and Charles is in his 70s and what they have had to put up with recently due to Andrews shenangins, he could have been a bit less selfish and sorted this out behind closed doors, if this was a joe bloggs family Harry and Meg would be on Jeremy Kyle slugging it out with the grandparents, instead its being played out on the front pages. I think this will finish off the already fragile relationship with Will as well, what a shame, I doubt Diana be want to see her boys torn apart in this way.

[arista]

..rubbish...it must be quite the shaky old, fragile system if one American woman could bugger it up...


Look at Lady Diana
who used the Press
against the Royals.

[Mystic Mock]

...OMG, she left Archie In Canada to be with Harry in the U.K....!!!!...OMG, she’ left Harry in the U.K. to be with Archie in Canada...!!!!!...

It does sound like some people in the Media will attack Meghan no matter what she does.

Imo I honestly don't get the obsession that the Media has of pitting Royal family members up against each other anyway.

[Beso]

So she tore her own family apart and is now doing the same to her husband

[Crimson Dynamo]

It does sound like some people in the Media will attack Meghan no matter what she does.

Imo I honestly don't get the obsession that the Media has of pitting Royal family members up against each other anyway.

the "media" is the people of the UK

its not some separate entity

every time you see "the media" mentioned just substitute the word for "the public"


(ie you, me and everybody on this forum)

[Nicky91]

the "media" is the people of the UK

its not some separate entity

every time you see "the media" mentioned just substitute the word for "the public"


(ie you, me and everybody on this forum)

well i don't recognize the media as the public

not in UK, and also especially not in my own country either


our showbiz reporters are everytime pro-british royals, but they never said anything negative about Meghan either, and they also understand Harry's reason in this decision, since they also closely followed all the drama around Princess Diana back then

[Crimson Dynamo]

well i don't recognize the media as the public

not in UK, and also especially not in my own country either


our showbiz reporters are everytime pro-british royals, but they never said anything negative about Meghan either, and they also understand Harry's reason in this decision, since they also closely followed all the drama around Princess Diana back then

So you are saying that "the media" in the UK and HOlland do not reflect the views of the people who read, watch and listen to them?

That is a rather unusual business model you have going there :think:

They make programmes that are unpopular, run stories no one cares about and make shows that no one will watch?

[Cherie]

well i don't recognize the media as the public

not in UK, and also especially not in my own country either


our showbiz reporters are everytime pro-british royals, but they never said anything negative about Meghan either, and they also understand Harry's reason in this decision, since they also closely followed all the drama around Princess Diana back then



Most people in the UK understand their reasons as well, what we don't understand is

(a) why they rushed out a statement before the details were hammered out

and

(b) why they want to retain the title, the house, the security, and 95% of Charles cash while stepping back, step back by all means, keep the security but hand back the titles and the house and say no to Charles cash, and off you pop

[Nicky91]

So you are saying that "the media" in the UK and HOlland do not reflect the views of the people who read, watch and listen to them?

That is a rather unusual business model you have going there :think:

They make programmes that are unpopular, run stories no one cares about and make shows that no one will watch?

dutch media, have correspondents everywhere in the world basically

like any other country

but ours usually compete against each other, from public tv channel, and commercial tv channel

so who can bring the story first, and who has the best views for their shows

[Kazanne]

If they want to live without the privilege royalty brings , then they should just go,as things stand they are whipping up what they are trying to get away from,just cut loose,no perks,just do it,they can still see their family.They will never have to work anyway,so if that will make them happy ,they should go and be happy.

[arista]

600K a Year
for 6 Armed Officers, 24/7.

[arista]

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[Captain.Remy]

Here for a "Keeping Up with the Deserters" show lmao
Good for them!

[Morgan.]

Their wax figures have been removed from Madame Tussauds

[bots]

If they thought they had a hard time before, they ain't seen nothing yet. Living in Canada wont protect them

[Crimson Dynamo]

what hard time has she had tho?

she has a life of luxury

oh my the DM wrote an article about her that was a little unflattering


i mean ffs :skull:

[arista]

Their wax figures have been removed from Madame Tussauds



Yes I posted that.

They were in the Studio
of GMBHD itv
AM today.

[Livia]

They should go just about as quickly as their waxworks disappeared. No money, no titles.... if they want to step away, they should step away completely.

[Kazanne]

They should go just about as quickly as their waxworks disappeared. No money, no titles.... if they want to step away, they should step away completely.

Totally agree :wavey:

[Crimson Dynamo]

They should go just about as quickly as their waxworks disappeared. No money, no titles.... if they want to step away, they should step away completely.

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[Cherie]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/He4wudo59enf2/source.gif

:joker:

[Twosugars]

Lol
The waxworks will continue to be displayed




“From today, Meghan and Harry’s figures will no longer appear in our Royal Family set.

“As two of our most popular and well-loved figures they will of course remain an important feature at Madame Tussauds London as we watch to see what the next chapter holds for the them.”


Said the general manager of Madame Tussauds

[Crimson Dynamo]

Put them next to posh and becks

:skull:

[Tom4784]

Let's face it, if Kate and Will did the same thing they would not have had the vitriolic reception that Meghan has had (let's be real, Meghan is the problem for these people).

If Meghan was white, she would never have gotten the hate she gets from these people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do people really see her as a black women, i dont think people even know as they see her dad in the paper a lot and he is white?

[arista]

Do people really see her as a black women, i dont think people even know as they see her dad in the paper a lot and he is white?


No Not Black, at all.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Do people really see her as a black women, i dont think people even know as they see her dad in the paper a lot and he is white?

No Not Black, at all.

:joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

2 white guys deciding a black woman isn't either black or black enough is peak tibb.

[Crimson Dynamo]

2 white guys deciding a black woman isn't either black or black enough is peak tibb.

In the relatively not far past there was a way to describe a person of mixed race but now that word or words have fallen from favour so we now are stuck with no real descriptor

:shrug:

[armand.kay]

we

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[AnnieK]

In the relatively not far past there was a way to describe a person of mixed race but now that word or words have fallen from favour so we now are stuck with no real descriptor

:shrug:

You've used an adequate descriptor right there LT :shrug:

[The Slim Reaper]

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Eamon speaking to the old white demographic.

[Kazanne]

I have never seen her as a 'black' or 'mixed race woman she is just Megan a person like any other, I do hope that the press are not coming from the racist angle, surely it's more to do with how they feel about her as a person , maybe they know her better than we do , I don't think the reason some see her negatively is her race ,but they maybe feel she is taking Harry away from his roots, but Harry is old enough to know what he wants and if he wants to move away from royalty he should, but they cant have the 'perks' it brings surely.

[GoldHeart]

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Eamon speaking to the old white demographic.

Eamon Holmes is a daft old wind bag , always found him & Ruth annoying.

[Kazanne]

Eamon Holmes is a daft old wind bag , always found him & Ruth annoying.

Can't stand the bloke myself,I don't mind her so much though.

[arista]

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[arista]

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Eamon speaking to the old white demographic.


No
he is speaking his mind
because on Talk Radio
you can.

[arista]

we

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Clever Photo edits

[LukeB]

Eamon Holmes is a daft old wind bag , always found him & Ruth annoying.

The hate towards Meghan Markle has become toxic and nasty, she isn’t even a bad person. But i’m not really surprised really. I say good for them and i wish them all the best.

[The Slim Reaper]

TIBB when Iran has a plane crash: We don't believe in coincidence.
TIBB when the only black royal is treated appallingly: Wait, she's black? No way, why do people keep bringing it up?

[Cherie]

Was it only a month ago they told us all to reduce the number of times we fly :omgno:

[Cherie]

we

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:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

She told Kate and Wills she was pregnant the day of Euginie's wedding

is that a nice person?

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Harry and Meghan’s bombshell announcement is a discourtesy to the Queen – and smacks of millennial self-absorption

If the Sussexes had bothered to show up at Sandringham for Christmas with the
rest of the family, witnessing the pressures that the stoical, snowy monarch was
under might have inclined them to think again. But Harry, Meghan and eight-
month-old Archie were too busy on their six-week “holiday” in Canada,
meditating on their own grievances. Funny, isn’t it, how global humanitarians
can find it so hard to spot problems nearer to home?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2019/10/25/TELEMMGLPICT000214098328_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bq4BoKTNk 6YpwUE1BI-JyjWk5Zwpb0vEqSoVu7LTGijV8.jpeg?imwidth=500

To add insult to injury, the pair went on to preach that they would start “to
carve out a progressive new role within this institution”. What does that
imply about William and Kate, to whom Harry was once so close? Do the the
ultra-woke Sussexes think the Cambridges are not “progressive” as they go
about their boring old duty of supporting the Queen and keeping their political
opinions to themselves?

Instead, they have acted with a breathtaking self-centredness,
announcing their decision to the public first and clearly hoping to bounce the
monarch into accepting their “progressive” new role, which keeps the perks
of Royalty while shirking its duties.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2020/01/09/harry-meghans-bombshell-announcement-discourtesy-queen-smacks/

[Liam-]

*angry people spend years abusing woman telling her she has no place in the royal family, possibly because she’s black, possibly because she’s American, gets told to leave our lovely, innocent, pure white English Prince alone and go back to being a low-rent Hollywood actress*

*husband of said woman decides to put his family ahead of his genetic role to protect them from said, possibly racist abuse, one of the first men in his genetic line to actually be loyal and committed to his family*

*said angry people get angrier because said woman is actually doing the very thing they’ve been telling her to do, with unprecedented abuse, for years, because she’s ‘disrespected’ the old white lady*

[Marsh.]

She told Kate and Wills she was pregnant the day of Euginie's wedding

is that a nice person?

:umm2:

Maybe Harry should've ****ed her on a different day so she was pregnant a week later than the wedding?

[Liam-]

She told Kate and Wills she was pregnant the day of Euginie's wedding

is that a nice person?

:umm2:

And ‘Wills’ shagged Kate’s best mate behind her back, scummy man following his Dad’s footsteps

[Twosugars]

*angry people spend years abusing woman telling her she has no place in the royal family, possibly because she’s black, possibly because she’s American, gets told to leave our lovely, innocent, pure white English Prince alone and go back to being a low-rent Hollywood actress*

*husband of said woman decides to put his family ahead of his genetic role to protect them from said, possibly racist abuse, one of the first men in his genetic line to actually be loyal and committed to his family*

*said angry people get angrier because said woman is actually doing the very thing they’ve been telling her to do, with unprecedented abuse, for years, because she’s ‘disrespected’ the old white lady*

:laugh:

Love how they made bigots fuming :hee:

On the other hand there is a constructive and supportive editorial in the Guardian:)

[Crimson Dynamo]

And ‘Wills’ shagged Kate’s best mate behind her back, scummy man following his Dad’s footsteps

so one one hand you are disgusted by people abusing meghan on the socials but are happy to spread an unfounded malicious rumour on a social forum about her brother-in-law

unbelievable


:umm2:

[thesheriff443]

Maybe Harry should've ****ed her on a different day so she was pregnant a week later than the wedding?

She would of still be pregnant if she told them a week later, you sure you know how being pregnant works.

[Twosugars]

The Guardian view on Harry and Meghan: good instinct and courageous action
Editorial
The Sussexes should not try to have it both ways, but their departure does themselves and the monarchy a favour

After what even the Queen has admitted was a bumpy year in 2019, the House of Windsor has begun the new one by driving into a huge pothole. The background to the decision of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex to “step back” from their roles as senior members of the royal family is confused. Their wish for a “progressive new role” and to become financially independent tries to have it both ways – with continuing financial support from the family and the retention of their titles – and makes no sense. People will wish them well. But the damage to the institution cannot be denied.

On the personal level, only the hardest of hearts will not hope the Sussexes can make it work. All will wish that they will be happier in these new arrangements than they have been recently. In family crises such as these it is often hard, and sometimes impossible, to know where the balance of responsibilities lies, though this will not stop some frenzied attempts to play the blame game. Doubtless there is plenty of blame to go round.

Yet no news organisation should dismiss one of the most clearly stated reasons for this dramatic decision – the fears of Prince Harry and Meghan that the British press has them under siege to a degree that threatens to do to them what it did to Diana, Princess of Wales. The collective turn against the Sussexes by much of the media since they made their announcement illustrates precisely where part of the problem lies. It does not help that Britain has just elected a government led by a journalist who made stories up and whose manifesto gives the press a free pass to continue the abuses and techniques that led to the Leveson inquiry.

The bottom line for the British monarchy as a public institution is that this is a major blow. The blow is stronger for coming so soon after Prince Andrew’s disgrace in the Jeffrey Epstein affair drove him to the sidelines too. It leaves the institution more open to emotional criticism than at any time since the Prince of Wales’s divorce and the death of Diana, more than 20 years ago. The monarchy itself may not be at risk this week, as it was in 1936 and some argued it was in 1997. But the fragility of the royal house is now more palpable than ever, as the ageing of the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh signals the imminence of a period of change at the top.

Tolstoy observed that all unhappy families are unhappy in different ways. A breach of some kind could have happened in any family, royal or not. But the breach between the Sussexes and the House of Windsor resonates with implications that transcend those who are directly involved. It is an uncomfortable sign that the Windsors have not, as has been claimed, recovered their post-Diana poise. In other circumstances, the monarchy would risk being characterised as not fit for purpose.

Part of this centres on the uniquely hapless role of “the spare”. The only role of the younger sibling of the heir to the throne is to remain alive in case the call comes – as it did to Prince Albert, later George VI, in 1936. Prince Harry, like Prince Andrew and Princess Margaret before him, has struggled with this fate. If he was not to become another ageing royal sybarite, the issue needed to be forced. This week Harry and Meghan have done just that. His solution is not fully worked out yet. But the instinct was right and the action was courageous.

All this has arisen not because of personalities but because the Windsors have not thought properly about downsizing. It is absurd that, beyond the sovereign and the heir, young royals are not told to find paid jobs, or trained to do so. In other monarchies, most of which remain popular, such career paths are entirely normal. Only in Britain is such infantile mystique attached to the crown. By their awkward rebellion against our antiquated form of monarchy, the Sussexes have done themselves – and maybe the monarchy itself – a favour.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/09/the-guardian-view-on-harry-and-meghan-good-instinct-and-courageous-action

[Crimson Dynamo]

The failing Guardian hate the Royal Family and know their reader does too so a vindictive editiorial attacking Her Majesty is par for the course

[The Slim Reaper]

Couple tell brother and SIL they're expecting, on the day of their cousins wedding doesn't really sound that bad to me :shrug:

[Marsh.]

She would of still be pregnant if she told them a week later, you sure you know how being pregnant works.

No sh*t Sherlock. I obviously meant got her pregnant a different time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Couple tell brother and SIL they're expecting, on the day of their cousins wedding doesn't really sound that bad to me :shrug:

it does not but one would have to be very niave to think that if the people involved were who they actually were

its a very big deal

and

it was

[thesheriff443]

No sh*t Sherlock. I obviously meant got her pregnant a different time.

In the same way she could of told them a different time.

[The Slim Reaper]

it does not but one would have to be very niave to think that if the people involved were who they actually were

its a very big deal

and

it was

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[Marsh.]

In the same way she could of told them a different time.

Why? To make thesheriff443 feel better?

[thesheriff443]

Why? To make thesheriff443 feel better?

You messed up not me!, get over it.

[Twosugars]

Couple tell brother and SIL they're expecting, on the day of their cousins wedding doesn't really sound that bad to me :shrug:

Same.
Dont get the fuss.
You get together at a happy occasion and you cant wait to share more good news

[Marsh.]

You messed up not me!, get over it.

Bless. :pat:

[thesheriff443]

Bless. :pat:

No bless you.

[Marsh.]

No bless you.

:love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

look how fraught and drawn the Queen looked today :(

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/10/14/23238308-7873341-The_Queen_is_pictured_behind_the_wheel_of_her_Land _Rover_today-a-9_1578665617622.jpg

Meanwhile Meghans mum is out laughing it up with her dogs

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/10/08/23222160-7870677-Meghan_Markle_s_mother_Doria_Ragland_was_spotted_f or_the_first_t-a-2_1578644214295.jpg

shocking

[AnnieK]

Couple tell brother and SIL they're expecting, on the day of their cousins wedding doesn't really sound that bad to me :shrug:

Yeah I don't get that either. My brother and sister in law told me they were having another baby at my cousins wedding....no big deal. Had they announced it to the media that day I could understand the outrage a little more but to tell close family members (possibly to explain why Meghan wasn't drinking or looked a little off colour) is not a big deal :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yeah I don't get that either. My brother and sister in law told me they were having another baby at my cousins wedding....no big deal. Had they announced it to the media that day I could understand the outrage a little more but to tell close family members (possibly to explain why Meghan wasn't drinking or looked a little off colour) is not a big deal :shrug:

Fergie (the mum-in-law) was raging

[Marsh.]

Fergie (the mum-in-law) was raging

Oh no, we can't upset Fergie.

[AnnieK]

Fergie (the mum-in-law) was raging

Oh dear

[Liam-]

Fergie (the mum-in-law) was raging

The general compass of morality

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

Even now, twenty-four hours after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex published their intention to start “working towards financial independence” at the ages of 35 and 38 respectively, their brand new website, sussexroyal.com, does not feature highly in the Google search results for “working towards financial independence”.

For those seeking to work towards financial independence, the collective wisdom of the internet still offers frankly parochial advice: live a frugal lifestyle, grow your earned income, invest in the stock market. That sort of thing. It is, indeed, distinctly possible that the Duke and Duchess’s work towards financial independence has not yet driven the newly financially independent* (*working towards) couple to google the phrase “working towards financial independence”. I say this because there does seem to be a rather large disconnect between what is considered the conventional means by which to achieve financial independence, and the methods the happy couple appear to be pursuing.

To take a cursory glance around sussexroyal.com is to find oneself suddenly cast as one of Alan Sugar’s evil henchmen in the interviews round of The Apprentice, unable to find exactly where the business plan is. “Live a frugal lifestyle” certainly doesn’t appear. What does, on the other hand, are many photographs of the happy couple pointing at African children, juxtaposed with inspirational quotes from various dead self-help gurus.

While the Duke and Duchess of Sussex may not yet have fully worked out how to achieve financial independence, it seems, they have worked out a lot besides: “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex,” proclaims their new website, “believe in the shared strength and spirit of Community ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex recognise the unique perspectives through which different communities view the world ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe that junk food tastes so good because it’s bad for you. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe your parents did the best job they knew how to do.”

And who among us can say that’s not the main thing? Naturally, we wish them well on their new adventures in the world of personal finance. Admittedly, none of their ideas have featured prominently on Radio 4’s The Money Programme in the years I’ve been listening, but who’s to say they are not the pioneers this age of low-interest rates so urgently requires?

“Do your little bit of good where you are; it’s those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world.” So spoke Desmond Tutu, apparently while staring into the eyes of Meghan Markle, while she stared into the eyes of her baby son, in a loving snap featured on the “Community” page of sussexroyal.com. Surely, a mantra for the benefits of compound interest?

I confess to not having a clue what I am meant to think about the happy couple’s semi-retirement from their highly lucrative non-jobs while still in their thirties. The conventional wisdom seems to be that they’re happy to have Mr and Mrs Taxpayer pony up the cash for various seven-figure home improvement projects they’ve just had done, and then jack in their ribbon cutting duties by way of a thank you. But then, I have always been somewhat mystified by the assumed right of the monarchy-loving British public to inflict a life of misery on the people they appear to adore. We pay for them, who do they think they are, refusing to give us a steady supply of photographs of their two-month-old baby? It’s a disgrace!

There’s also the fact that Prince Harry’s mother was killed while being pursued by paparazzi photographers, and is now watching his wife is being carefully crafted into a public hate figure. There genuinely does appear to be a sense that Prince Harry ought to have more respect for the industry that killed his mother. Best of luck with that.

So there’s a lot going into this particular moral melting pot and frankly, it’s not one that I have any interest at all in stirring or sniffing. Maybe the pair of them do indeed want to have their cake and eat it? Who knows? Who cares?

But in the meantime, Harry and Meghan’s journey towards financial independence doesn’t appear to be getting off to the most auspicious of starts.


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harry-meghan-royal-family-queen-separation-financial-independence-a9277321.html


:laugh:

[GoldHeart]

look how fraught and drawn the Queen looked today :(


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/10/14/23238308-7873341-The_Queen_is_pictured_behind_the_wheel_of_her_Land _Rover_today-a-9_1578665617622.jpg

Meanwhile Meghans mum is out laughing it up with her dogs

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/01/10/08/23222160-7870677-Meghan_Markle_s_mother_Doria_Ragland_was_spotted_f or_the_first_t-a-2_1578644214295.jpg

shocking
The Queen's been through worse stuff , i'm sure she'll get over it :rolleyes:

Where in that pic is Meghan's mum "LAUGHING"?? , once again another invention of your imagination :idc:.

[Cherie]

Even now, twenty-four hours after the Duke and Duchess of Sussex published their intention to start “working towards financial independence” at the ages of 35 and 38 respectively, their brand new website, sussexroyal.com, does not feature highly in the Google search results for “working towards financial independence”.

For those seeking to work towards financial independence, the collective wisdom of the internet still offers frankly parochial advice: live a frugal lifestyle, grow your earned income, invest in the stock market. That sort of thing. It is, indeed, distinctly possible that the Duke and Duchess’s work towards financial independence has not yet driven the newly financially independent* (*working towards) couple to google the phrase “working towards financial independence”. I say this because there does seem to be a rather large disconnect between what is considered the conventional means by which to achieve financial independence, and the methods the happy couple appear to be pursuing.

To take a cursory glance around sussexroyal.com is to find oneself suddenly cast as one of Alan Sugar’s evil henchmen in the interviews round of The Apprentice, unable to find exactly where the business plan is. “Live a frugal lifestyle” certainly doesn’t appear. What does, on the other hand, are many photographs of the happy couple pointing at African children, juxtaposed with inspirational quotes from various dead self-help gurus.

While the Duke and Duchess of Sussex may not yet have fully worked out how to achieve financial independence, it seems, they have worked out a lot besides: “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex,” proclaims their new website, “believe in the shared strength and spirit of Community ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex recognise the unique perspectives through which different communities view the world ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe that for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows ... The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe that junk food tastes so good because it’s bad for you. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex believe your parents did the best job they knew how to do.”

And who among us can say that’s not the main thing? Naturally, we wish them well on their new adventures in the world of personal finance. Admittedly, none of their ideas have featured prominently on Radio 4’s The Money Programme in the years I’ve been listening, but who’s to say they are not the pioneers this age of low-interest rates so urgently requires?

“Do your little bit of good where you are; it’s those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world.” So spoke Desmond Tutu, apparently while staring into the eyes of Meghan Markle, while she stared into the eyes of her baby son, in a loving snap featured on the “Community” page of sussexroyal.com. Surely, a mantra for the benefits of compound interest?

I confess to not having a clue what I am meant to think about the happy couple’s semi-retirement from their highly lucrative non-jobs while still in their thirties. The conventional wisdom seems to be that they’re happy to have Mr and Mrs Taxpayer pony up the cash for various seven-figure home improvement projects they’ve just had done, and then jack in their ribbon cutting duties by way of a thank you. But then, I have always been somewhat mystified by the assumed right of the monarchy-loving British public to inflict a life of misery on the people they appear to adore. We pay for them, who do they think they are, refusing to give us a steady supply of photographs of their two-month-old baby? It’s a disgrace!

There’s also the fact that Prince Harry’s mother was killed while being pursued by paparazzi photographers, and is now watching his wife is being carefully crafted into a public hate figure. There genuinely does appear to be a sense that Prince Harry ought to have more respect for the industry that killed his mother. Best of luck with that.

So there’s a lot going into this particular moral melting pot and frankly, it’s not one that I have any interest at all in stirring or sniffing. Maybe the pair of them do indeed want to have their cake and eat it? Who knows? Who cares?

But in the meantime, Harry and Meghan’s journey towards financial independence doesn’t appear to be getting off to the most auspicious of starts.


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/harry-meghan-royal-family-queen-separation-financial-independence-a9277321.html


:laugh:

:joker:

[arista]

1215375050976759819

Look at Meghan Talk
you can see she is Trouble.

[Liam-]

Why is she trouble? Because she believes women are equal and should be treated that way? Do you not agree with her?

[arista]

Why is she trouble? Because she believes women are equal and should be treated that way? Do you not agree with her?


To Pushy.

[Ammi]

...as a child, she got the tag line changed from..’women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans..’...to ‘..people all over America are fighting...etc...’...Queen of equality...:lovedup:..

[Twosugars]

To Pushy.

Sexist

[arista]

Sexist


No She is Petulant

[Twosugars]

No She is Petulant

Sexist

[arista]

...as a child, she got the tag line changed from..’women all over America are fighting greasy pots and pans..’...to ‘..people all over America are fighting...etc...’...Queen of equality...:lovedup:..

Its just a dream

[Liam-]

To Pushy.

Ah, women should just sit in the corner and speak when allowed to them yeah?

[Ammi]

To Pushy.

....why is she pushy... as a child, she brought about a change in the tag line, which wasn’t representative of equality...that shows great entrepreneurial skills, which is something you would admire in someone...

[Twosugars]

Its just a dream

Which is becoming reality and bigots hate it

[Ammi]

Its just a dream

...if it’s a dream, why would it make her pushy..?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

....why is she pushy... as a child, she brought about a change in the tag line, which wasn’t representative of equality...that shows great entrepreneurial skills, which is something you would admire in someone...

Enterprising you mean not entrepreneurial

[Liam-]

1215989776026873856

Just a tiny sample of the media’s blatant hypocrisy and mission to drive Meghan into the ground, I wonder what the difference between them is? Hmm

[Liam-]

They even went as far as attacking their child

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Anyone that says they’ve had an easy ride is either an outright liar or completely deluded and think it’s acceptable.

[Ammi]

...it wasn’t a dream, Arista...Through her letters, Procter and Gamble changed the tag line in the commercial...because she felt it wrong that females should be shown as the people doing household chores...

[Crimson Dynamo]

1215989776026873856

Just a tiny sample of the media’s blatant hypocrisy and mission to drive Meghan into the ground, I wonder what the difference between them is? Hmm

Kate is humble and takes her role seriously?

[arista]

...it wasn’t a dream, Arista...Through her letters, Procter and Gamble changed the tag line in the commercial...because she felt it wrong that females should be shown as the people doing household chores...


Ammi
you would have been far Wiser
than Meghan

[Liam-]

Kate is humble and takes her role seriously?

I don’t think that’s qwhite right

[Ammi]

Ammi
you would have been far Wiser
that Meghan

...do you mean...far more pushy or more trouble..?...

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don’t think that’s qwhite right

:hehe:

[Liam-]

There is no justifiable reason for Kate and Meghan to be treated in complete opposite ways for doing the exact same things, there’s only one reason and we all know what it is

[Elliot]

The treatment Meghan gets is horrific and some people can’t see how ridiculous they look

[arista]

...do you mean...far more pushy or more trouble..?...


No you would have been Stable

[Ammi]

No you would have been Stable

...Meghan is stable...she persuaded a large national business to change a tag line, in favour of equality....that’s a pretty ‘stable’ thing to do, Arista ...she was indeed most wise..(..and stable..)...

[Beso]

...Meghan is stable...she persuaded a large national business to change a tag line, in favour of equality....that’s a pretty ‘stable’ thing to do, Arista ...she was indeed most wise..(..and stable..)...

She must have about a million advisers at her beck n call..just a mere flick of a switch. ...don't assume she did it on her own.:nono:

[Beso]

The treatment Meghan gets is horrific and some people can’t see how ridiculous they look

She should have known herself when she signed up to harry and the royals. .she is nothing more than a sob story; perched for prime time chat show America.



Disgusting

[Marsh.]

She must have about a million advisers at her beck n call..just a mere flick of a switch. ...don't assume she did it on her own.:nono:

When she was a child? I don't think so.

[Beso]

When she was a child? I don't think so.

A Hollywood child actress...of course...she was in charge. ..I do apologise :joker:

[Liam-]

Horrible woman wanting women to be treated equally, who does she think she is? :fist:

[Marsh.]

A Hollywood child actress...of course...she was in charge. ..I do apologise :joker:

She wasn't a child actress.

This is what happens when you judge someone for who you imagine they are and not who they actually are. You start inventing things.

[Ammi]

...she was 11 yrs old and she persuaded Procter and Gamble to make the changes as part of a school project...:laugh:..she was the one whose decision it was to ‘go to the top’ and write to the First Lady at the time...

[arista]

...Meghan is stable...she persuaded a large national business to change a tag line, in favour of equality....that’s a pretty ‘stable’ thing to do, Arista ...she was indeed most wise..(..and stable..)...


She ain't so Stable now

[Liam-]

She ain't so Stable now

A constant torrent of abuse and racism can do that to a person

[Crimson Dynamo]

She ain't so Stable now

no she quit at the first hurdle and according to her friends she has a history of running way from things i read yesterday in the Mail. Marry in haste, repent at leisure is the saying i think..

[Marsh.]

i read yesterday in the Mail.

:laugh2:

[Ammi]

She ain't so Stable now

...I would say that she and Harry are very stable and in control of their future plans and lives together...possibly more so than ever before in their lives...:lovedup:...

[Cherie]

apparently Toronto is referred to by some as Taranto as so many Iranians have settled there, there was a huge fuss when London was called Londonstan about racism, so I suppose the same must apply to Canada then, are they exchanging one country where apparently everyone is racist for another :laugh:

[Marsh.]

Nobody said or suggested everyone was racist.

It would be odd if Canada didn't have their fair share of racists.

[user104658]

apparently Toronto is referred to by some as Taranto as so many Iranians have settled there, there was a huge fuss when London was called Londonstan about racism, so I suppose the same must apply to Canada then, are they exchanging one country where apparently everyone is racist for another :laugh:

Canada actually has had a not-insignificant problem with white supremacists for years. I remember when I was 16 a Canadian girl in her 20's from a forum I was on tried to convince me to become a Neo Nazi. Like a full on, flag waving, boots-and-jacket Neo Nazi :joker:. I played along for a bit, screenshotted the whole thing and posted it on the forum. Ahh good times :flutter:

[Beso]

...she was 11 yrs old and she persuaded Procter and Gamble to make the changes as part of a school project...:laugh:..she was the one whose decision it was to ‘go to the top’ and write to the First Lady at the time...

I used to work for proctor and gamble in grays when I first moved down to Essex. .I had to leave because of a wee singapore woman who chanted songs as she packed the boxes I was stacking in a pallet..this was about 2011..

I saw people threatened and shouted at by the factory bosses..lined up and metal detectored before they can leave for the bus home to the train or bus home..horrid place to work for if you were on the bottom rung...


I lasted 1 year..then got my current job..which is a million miles away from png ..

[Beso]

...she was 11 yrs old and she persuaded Procter and Gamble to make the changes as part of a school project...:laugh:..she was the one whose decision it was to ‘go to the top’ and write to the First Lady at the time...

Can you pm me some info on this please Ammi. ..

[Ammi]

I used to work for proctor and gamble in grays when I first moved down to Essex. .I had to leave because of a wee singapore woman who chanted songs as she packed the boxes I was stacking in a pallet..this was about 2011..

I saw people threatened and shouted at by the factory bosses..lined up and metal detectored before they can leave for the bus home to the train or bus home..horrid place to work for if you were on the bottom rung...


I lasted 1 year..then got my current job..which is a million miles away from png ..

...a really awful work experience for you when moving away from home was such a big and quite stressful change as well...but that’s part of the road that led you to where you are now ...and you seem to fit well with that job and your colleagues...life is strange, eh...it all has a reason...

[Cherie]

Canada actually has had a not-insignificant problem with white supremacists for years. I remember when I was 16 a Canadian girl in her 20's from a forum I was on tried to convince me to become a Neo Nazi. Like a full on, flag waving, boots-and-jacket Neo Nazi :joker:. I played along for a bit, screenshotted the whole thing and posted it on the forum. Ahh good times :flutter:

Good times indeed :laugh:

[Beso]

...a really awful work experience for you when moving away from home was such a big and quite stressful change as well...but that’s part of the road that led you to where you are now ...and you seem to fit well with that job and your colleagues...life is strange, eh...it all has a reason...




No it don't all have a reason Ammi. ..That's hocus pocus bulls arse.

[Beso]

Child actress. ..pampered to the hilt..probably by powerful people, suddenly turns up in the royal family...home of prince andrew..

"MY FAV UNCLE"

Now she holds all the cards......uncle parmy just saying. .

[Ammi]

Can you pm me some info on this please Ammi. ..

...so that’s why you asked me to PM you the information, which said that it was a school project/assignment...long before she had any celebrity, when she was still a child and not a ‘celebrity child..’...so that you could just dismiss it as ‘TV ad equals child actress’...you made me think that you were genuinely interested in reading it...she was no part of the ad, it was a project...but you know that...not only from the thread but from the PM information you asked me to send you...more fool me for falling into your mockery and sending it...very nasty...



It resulted from a social studies assignment that had Markle and her California classmates watching television commercials and assessing potentially implicit messages they sent. That's when the future royal’s advocacy spirit kicked in.

Markle noticed how one ad for a dishwashing detergent implied that women do all the cleaning.

“I don't think it's right for kids to grow up thinking these things — that just Mom does everything,” she says in the video clip. “It's always ‘Mom does this,’ and ‘Mom does that.’”

[Kazanne]

Their dogs have been flown to Canada,looks like that is where they are going.

[Crimson Dynamo]

...so that’s why you asked me to PM you the information, which said that it was a school project/assignment...long before she had any celebrity, when she was still a child and not a ‘celebrity child..’...so that you could just dismiss it as ‘TV ad equals child actress’...you made me think that you were genuinely interested in reading it...she was no part of the ad, it was a project...but you know that...not only from the thread but from the PM information you asked me to send you...more fool me for falling into your mockery...very nasty...



It resulted from a social studies assignment that had Markle and her California classmates watching television commercials and assessing potentially implicit messages they sent. That's when the future royal’s advocacy spirit kicked in.

Markle noticed how one ad for a dishwashing detergent implied that women do all the cleaning.

“I don't think it's right for kids to grow up thinking these things — that just Mom does everything,” she says in the video clip. “It's always ‘Mom does this,’ and ‘Mom does that.’”

her parents split up when she was 7 so it could be related to that?

[thesheriff443]

...I would say that she and Harry are very stable and in control of their future plans and lives together...possibly more so than ever before in their lives...:lovedup:...

To be honest you don’t know what the future holds, Megan has been married and divorced so has far more real life experience.

I can’t see them lasting to be honest, if they do it will be Harry doing what Megan says.

[thesheriff443]

Harry will be clearly in a difficult place, one hand keeping his new wife happy and on the other hand going against his family.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Harry will be clearly in a difficult place, one hand keeping his new wife happy and on the other hand going against his family.

It was a poor choice of wife and what with his background and status he should have chosen a women like kate but he had to go offroad and now it looks like all going to be too much for him sadly :(

[Marsh.]

Child actress. ..pampered to the hilt..probably by powerful people, suddenly turns up in the royal family...home of prince andrew..

"MY FAV UNCLE"

Now she holds all the cards......uncle parmy just saying. .

Again... she wasn't a child actress.

[Black Dagger]

**** me. Are we not bored yet?

They've gone to Canada and they hate you all. End of story.

[Kazanne]

**** me. Are we not bored yet?

They've gone to Canada and they hate you all. End of story.

:joker::joker:

[Kizzy]

They've been listening to all the brexit dorks, if you don't like brexit or support this PM leave!!

Harry and meg....bye then!!! :joker:

[jet]

Fury over Meghan and Harry's 'shoddy' treatment of the Queen: Poll shows Britons want royal pair stripped of titles and public money as their popularity plunges.


The majority view of the general public certainly don't match the majority view on here. :hee:
The whinging, self absorbed, arrogant pair who have no respect for the queen are seeing their popularity plummet.

Just a year ago, Harry was the 2nd most popular royal after the queen.
William has taken over as the most popular royal with the queen 2nd.
Harry and Meghan's popularity has dropped dramatically.

Some poll results:

Who do you prefer?
William 65%
Harry 35%

Meghan 27%
Kate 73%

Should Harry give up right as 6th in line to throne?
Yes 54%
No 28%

Should he pay for own security like Andrew does for his daughters?
Yes 79%
No 8%

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-shoddily.html

[Liam-]

Shock horror, daily mail readers don’t like Meghan, I’m shooketh

[jet]

Shock horror, daily mail readers don’t like Meghan, I’m shooketh

Oh, the usual sweeping, thoughless, throwaway statement. Maybe if you stopped using stupid words like 'shooketh' and inhabiting twitter and read a variety of newspaper articles/ listened to interviews with genuine royal sources you would understand better why Meghan isn't liked - and not just by DM readers by a long way. Start with the Times, it would be a good start to your Meghan education.

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh, the usual sweeping, thoughless, throwaway statement. Maybe if you stopped using stupid words like 'shooketh' and inhabiting twitter and read a variety of newspaper articles/ listened to interviews with genuine royal sources you would understand better why Meghan isn't liked - and not just by DM readers by a long way. Start with the Times, it would be a good start to your Meghan education.

I agree. Work your way through the whole Murdoch press and the anti-meghan sentiment is on full view.

[Ant.]

it would be a good start to your Meghan education.

girl she's a celeb not a syllabus

[jet]

I agree. Work your way through the whole Murdoch press and the anti-meghan sentiment is on full view.

They report the good and the bad. With Meghan, there is unfortunately a lot more negative stuff all of her own and Harry's (at times) making.
Why do trusted royal correspondences like Penny Junor, Richard Kay, Emily Andrews etc try to balance their views of her, yet it is clear they dislike aspects of her behaviour and distrust her?

[jet]

girl she's a celeb not a syllabus

True :laugh:
Which is why most of the comments defending Meghans every move are so wrong - they are just brain dead parroting without any actual research.

[Denver]

Tbh if they want to work away from the royal family they should get nothing from them including security and what not.

But it's a kick in the teeth to taxpayers who paid millions for the wedding and jewellery and houses to then just be abandoned

[Beso]

...so that’s why you asked me to PM you the information, which said that it was a school project/assignment...long before she had any celebrity, when she was still a child and not a ‘celebrity child..’...so that you could just dismiss it as ‘TV ad equals child actress’...you made me think that you were genuinely interested in reading it...she was no part of the ad, it was a project...but you know that...not only from the thread but from the PM information you asked me to send you...more fool me for falling into your mockery and sending it...very nasty...



It resulted from a social studies assignment that had Markle and her California classmates watching television commercials and assessing potentially implicit messages they sent. That's when the future royal’s advocacy spirit kicked in.

Markle noticed how one ad for a dishwashing detergent implied that women do all the cleaning.

“I don't think it's right for kids to grow up thinking these things — that just Mom does everything,” she says in the video clip. “It's always ‘Mom does this,’ and ‘Mom does that.’”



Well I'm sorry you feel like that..

As an old friend that has taken advice from yourself to heart and as someone that has felt that that advice has helped them during difficult times...Im dissapointed you now describe my actions as nasty...


Regarding the actual posts and discussion..I just saw ADVERT on the links.....and the words 11 year old


So instantly got negative for that I apologise

[Marsh.]

But it's a kick in the teeth to taxpayers who paid millions for the wedding and jewellery and houses to then just be abandoned

Overexaggeration. The jewellery are family heirlooms for a start.

[Cherie]

Why are all the left wingers who hate the Royals suddenly so bothered about them....I doubt poor old Fergie got any support when she was being referred to as the Duchess of Pork :sad:

[Marsh.]

Poor Fergie.... white and English.... poor her....

[jet]

Tbh if they want to work away from the royal family they should get nothing from them including security and what not.

But it's a kick in the teeth to taxpayers who paid millions for the wedding and jewellery and houses to then just be abandoned

Yes, and to put out in their statement that they will keep Frogmore cottage as a base when in the UK without even asking the Queen first shows how arrogant and self entitled they are. It belongs to the Queen, dearies, and refurbished with OUR money.
They kindly say they will give up the sovereign grant (5% of their income) :laugh: so they can be 'financially independant' which they are not allowed to do when getting that grant, and earn their own money - which is why they have trademarked hundreds of items from socks to hoodies. They can go for many other ventures like getting paid millions to give speeches like Blair and Cameron and millions more to attend glossy celeb galas.

But they assume they are keeping the 95% of their income from the Duchy of Cornwall and their high cost security, paid by the taxpayer, wihich is likely to double. WTF?

How tacky and arrogant can they get?

[Cherie]

Poor Fergie.... white and English.... poor her....

Oh there we have it, you can suck up the insults if you are white British if you are American and half black... out they come with the outrage...predictable and fake

[Marsh.]

Oh there we have it, you can suck up the insults if you are white British if you are American and half black... out they come with the outrage...predictable and fake

You brought Fergie into the discussion. Still none the wiser why.

Well, actually, I can guess why, but you haven't stated.

[Marsh.]

Yes, and to put out in their statement that they will keep Frogmore cottage as a base when in the UK without even asking the Queen first shows how arrogant and self entitled they are.

If you believe that then more fool you.

[Cherie]

You brought Fergie into the discussion. Still none the wiser why.

Well, actually, I can guess why, but you haven't stated.

Because she was relentlessly bullied by the press go look it up

[Twosugars]

Why are all the left wingers who hate the Royals suddenly so bothered about them....I doubt poor old Fergie got any support when she was being referred to as the Duchess of Pork :sad:

Left wingers hating the monarchy? :laugh:
Yes we are all communists :omgno:

[Marsh.]

Yes, and to put out in their statement that they will keep Frogmore cottage as a base when in the UK without even asking the Queen first shows how arrogant and self entitled they are. It belongs to the Queen, dearies, and refurbished with OUR money.
They kindly say they will give up the sovereign grant (5% of their income) :laugh: so they can be 'financially independant' which they are not allowed to do when getting that grant, and earn their own money - which is why they have trademarked hundreds of items from socks to hoodies. They can go for many other ventures like getting paid millions to give speeches like Blair and Cameron and millions more to attend glossy celeb galas.

But they assume they are keeping the 95% of their income from the Duchy of Cornwall and their high cost security, paid by the taxpayer, wihich is likely to double. WTF?

How tacky and arrogant can they get?

I don't know why people are up in arms about them living off, basically, their inheritance. That's why the Royals are rich, they all inherited it.

Conveniently glossing over the millions they have earned themselves, however.

[Cherie]

Left wingers hating the monarchy? :laugh:
Yes we are all communists :omgno:

One of your new potential leaders wants a referendum :hehe:

[Twosugars]

Because she was relentlessly bullied by the press go look it up

Didnt know this forum stretched back to the 80s :laugh:

[Cherie]

Didnt know this forum stretched back to the 80s :laugh:

:umm2:

[Marsh.]

Because she was relentlessly bullied by the press go look it up

I don't need to look it up. I think you need to do your research.

IMO, NOBODY bar a small margin of people in the world would deserve the type of press mauling the UK press are capable of.

But there's a vast difference between a backlash for something someone has done, and a tirade of abuse.... simply for existing.

[Twosugars]

One of your new potential leaders wants a referendum :hehe:

Somebody should tell you most left wingers here are not members of labour party

[Marsh.]

The media just picks up on public opinion and run with it...especially the gutter media you like to mention.

The publics opinion is already out there..so don't accuse the public of being swayed by paper that they don't even purchase these days...

Except they are. When people are asked why they have such negative feelings towards them they spout the headlines back at you.

[Beso]

Somebody should tell you most left wingers here are not members of labour party

Jeremy''s most hated:shrug:

[Cherie]

Somebody should tell you most left wingers here are not members of labour party

Lol

[Cherie]

I don't need to look it up. I think you need to do your research.

IMO, NOBODY bar a small margin of people in the world would deserve the type of press mauling the UK press are capable of.

But there's a vast difference between a backlash for something someone has done, and a tirade of abuse.... simply for existing.

From what I have read, Fergies initial crime was being fat and ginger

[Marsh.]

From what I have read, Fergies initial crime was being fat and ginger

Well, obviously, that's not on. But the tirade of abuse didn't come until later when she got a backlash.

Not saying her backlash was justified, however there's a difference to the press turning on you due to your own actions (regardless of if the backlash was out of proportion) and the press just having it out for you from the off because you're clearly not wanted. This is a woman who can't touch her own stomach without it being construed into some outlandish scheme.

[Livia]

I have never warmed to Meghan. I don't think it's fair to say that people who don't like her are racist. It seems like if you don't agree with an alternative view then you are a tabloid-led simpleton. I think it's more to do with who she is and where she comes from. California smashed together with an ancient institution like the royal family. I mean, look at Wallis Simpson, she was hated and as white as paper.

[Marsh.]

Hardly, you don’t like what you dish out..

Here’s a snippet for you from 1990

Their second child, another daughter, Eugenie, was born on 23 March 1990 by caesarean section. During her marriage, the tabloid press ridiculed the Duchess after her weight climbed to 15 stone 10 pounds (100 kg) (220 lbs) labelling her unflatteringly as the "Duchess of Pork".

I'm not allowed to come in here and give my own opinion on the thread topic without then having to deal with being told to shut up and the discussion become about me? :think:

Also, I'm well aware of Fergie and her history, I don't need the wikipedia snippet.

[Marsh.]

I have never warmed to Meghan. I don't think it's fair to say that people who don't like her are racist. It seems like if you don't agree with an alternative view then you are a tabloid-led simpleton. I think it's more to do with who she is and where she comes from. California smashed together with an ancient institution like the royal family. I mean, look at Wallis Simpson, she was hated and as white as paper.

Oh I wouldn't say "People who don't like her are racist" but the rabid torrent of abuse that's been thrown at her from the minute her relationship with him was confirmed definitely has an unsavoury undertone from the gutter press.

But I would expect nothing more from them.

[Ant.]

Why are all the left wingers who hate the Royals suddenly so bothered about them....I doubt poor old Fergie got any support when she was being referred to as the Duchess of Pork :sad:

even in the context of the Royal Family my mind STILL went to

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Fergie_Washington_D.C_2014_%28cropped%29.jpg

so i was very confused

[Marsh.]

Lol ask Parm how he feels Everton time you wheel out the alcohol card, suck it up

In response to him making the discussion about me?

But then again, that's how you turn the discussion when you have no response. :pat:

[Cherie]

even in the context of the Royal Family my mind STILL went to

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Fergie_Washington_D.C_2014_%28cropped%29.jpg

so i was very confused

Oh :laugh: Sarah Ferguson...Andrews ex wife

[Ant.]

Oh :laugh: Sarah Ferguson...Andrews ex wife

Oh I remembered after a second :joker:

As Joey Tribbiani once said, "IT'S FERGIE BABY!!!!"

[Liam-]

Wallis Simpson was a nazi sympathiser, hardly comparable

[Marsh.]

All you have is Fergie was white British so hey ho to her abuse by the tabloids lol

Not what I've said is it?

I mentioned her being white and British in response to you trying to compare her media backlash to Meghan's when the two are quite different.

You've literally said "Fergie was called Duchess of Pork" as evidence of Meghan's abuse not being racially motivated.

[Cherie]

As i recall Fergie and Diana were also pitted against each other, it’s what the tabloids do...

[jet]

Oh I wouldn't say "People who don't like her are racist" but the rabid torrent of abuse that's been thrown at her from the minute her relationship with him was confirmed definitely has an unsavoury undertone from the gutter press.

But I would expect nothing more from them.

That is utter garbage. I read a variety of papers every day, its part of my job to do so and has been for many years, and she didn't get any more abuse than Kate, Fergie, Diana etc got. Did you read the papers all those years ago? In fact she has gotten LESS abuse although a lot of the negative stuff is self inflicted. The papers have printed plenty of positive stuff too, like they did with the others.

[Marsh.]

That is utter garbage. I read a variety of papers every day, its part of my job to do so and has been for many years, and she didn't get any more abuse than Kate, Fergie, Diana etc got. Did you read the papers all those years ago? In fact she has gotten LESS abuse although a lot of the negative stuff is self inflicted. The papers have printed plenty of positive stuff too, like they did with the others.

Fergie got MORE abuse, so the abuse Meghan got was not racist?

Is that your argument?

Also, unfortunately for famous people, the press goes far beyond the printed words these days so it's a hard one to gauge.

If anything it's convincing me more and more that Meghan's abuse is racist as people like Fergie got so much stick for their looks.

[Cherie]

Sarah Ferguson has weighed in on the so-called "feud" between Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, and Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge, saying it's akin to how she and the late Princess Diana were viewed as "rivals".

Speaking in an open letter published in Hello! magazine, Fergie wrote that, despite saturated news reports at the time, she and Diana never felt any "rivalry" towards each other.

"Women, in particular, are constantly pitted against and compared with each other in a way that reminds me of how people tried to portray Diana and me all the time as rivals, which is something neither of us ever really felt," she wrote in the letter published in Hello! magazine.

The British magazine launched a #HelloToKindness campaign largely in response to a rise in abusive online comments directed at Meghan and Kate.
The Duchess of York wrote that the majority of Twitter and Instagram "terrifies" her and that social media is a "sewer".

"Take a look at any website, and you'll see extraordinarily abusive comments aimed not only at people in the public eye but also other internet users. Bullying, sniping, b****ing, even the most appalling sexism, racism and homophobia are commonplace," she said.

[Livia]

I don't like Princess Michael of Kent either. Bloody Czechoslovakians...

[jet]

If you believe that then more fool you.

They said they were keeping Frogmore Cottage on the Sussex website statement put out just 10 minutes after informing the palace who knew nothing about its contents. This has been confirmed by palace aides over and over again. Do google before posting dear.

[Marsh.]

They said they were keeping Frogmore Cottage on the Sussex website statement put out just 10 minutes after informing the palace who knew nothing about its contents. This has been confirmed by palace aides over and over again. Do google before posting dear.

Again... if you think the Queen had no idea, more fool you. Google to your hearts content... dear.

[Marsh.]

I don't like Princess Michael of Kent either. Bloody Czechoslovakians...

Oh me neither.

[Cherie]

I don't like Princess Michael of Kent either. Bloody Czechoslovakians...

I don’t know who she is :worry:

[Marsh.]

I don’t know who she is :worry:

Get back on wikipedia then Chez.

[Cherie]

Get back on wikipedia then Chez.

Looks like I need to :laugh:

[jet]

I don't know why people are up in arms about them living off, basically, their inheritance. That's why the Royals are rich, they all inherited it.

Conveniently glossing over the millions they have earned themselves, however.

The Duchy of Cornwall is the inheritance of whoever happens to be the Prince of Wales. He then uses some of that money to fund WORKING royals, not royals who dont want to do royal work but still want the money.
Do you think they should still receive the 95% of their income from Charles but do little, if anything, to earn it then?

[Marsh.]

The Duchy of Cornwall is the inheritance of whoever happens to be the Prince of Wales. He then uses some of that money to fund WORKING royals, not royals who dont want to do royal work but still want the money.
Do you think they should still receive the 95% of their income from Charles but do little, if anything, to earn it then?

Not really, but I'll wait until that is an actually confirmation and not a rumour to comment. We still don't actually know exactly what their Royal roles will be going forward.

[Twosugars]

The Duchy of Cornwall is the inheritance of whoever happens to be the Prince of Wales. He then uses some of that money to fund WORKING royals, not royals who dont want to do royal work but still want the money.
Do you think they should still receive the 95% of their income from Charles but do little, if anything, to earn it then?

Both have also their own money and stated they want to be independent

[Cherie]

_b9L6n_IFa0

[jet]

Well, obviously, that's not on. But the tirade of abuse didn't come until later when she got a backlash.

Not saying her backlash was justified, however there's a difference to the press turning on you due to your own actions (regardless of if the backlash was out of proportion) and the press just having it out for you from the off because you're clearly not wanted. This is a woman who can't touch her own stomach without it being construed into some outlandish scheme.

Most of the negative press coverage has been due to her own actions. You need to stop reading tabloids and actually read some papers that give proper explanations of her bad decisions and why she isn't gelling with the public.
Educate yourself.

[Marsh.]

Most of the negative press coverage has been due to her own actions. You need to stop reading tabloids and actually read some papers that give proper explanations of her bad decisions and why she isn't gelling with the public.
Educate yourself.

More generalisations with no substance. There's so much of it, yet apparently, you can't provide any of it.

[Livia]

_b9L6n_IFa0



LOL...

You're racist against the Irish! Oh no, wait....

[Tom4784]

Most of the negative press coverage has been due to her own actions. You need to stop reading tabloids and actually read some papers that give proper explanations of her bad decisions and why she isn't gelling with the public.
Educate yourself.

HOW DARE A PREGNANT WOMAN RUB HER OWN BELLY IN PUBLIC!

It's okay when white people do it but it's obviously a sign of Meghan's plan to dismantle the monarchy when she does it!

Marsh should definitely educate his common and uneducated self by reading the same gullible drivel as you do!

[Marsh.]

HOW DARE A PREGNANT WOMAN RUB HER OWN BELLY IN PUBLIC!

It's okay when white people do it but it's obviously a sign of Meghan's plan to dismantle the monarchy when she does it!

Marsh should definitely educate his common and uneducated self by reading the same gullible drivel as you do!

:clap1:

[jet]

Fergie got MORE abuse, so the abuse Meghan got was not racist?

Is that your argument?

Also, unfortunately for famous people, the press goes far beyond the printed words these days so it's a hard one to gauge.

If anything it's convincing me more and more that Meghan's abuse is racist as people like Fergie got so much stick for their looks.

No, it isn't, but where are all this racial abuse from the tabloids?
Evidence please?

[Cherie]

LOL...

You're racist against the Irish! Oh no, wait....

I struggled with the accent, hope the Brits can make sense of it :joker:

Will is as bald as me after getting my landing strip done :omgno:

[jet]

Not when her only apparent crime is being foreign, no.

So she is beyone reproach then, an angel, no tabloid should say a word against such a paragon, unlike the other Princesses who deserved it.
(She's done plenty wrong, you obviously just haven't heard of it yet.) :shrug:

[Marsh.]

So she is beyone reproach then, an angel, no tabloid should say a word against such a paragon, unlike the other Princesses who deserved it.

Not what I said is it? I said not when her only crime is apparently being foreign. Pop your glasses on, dear.


(She's done plenty wrong, you obviously just haven't heard of it yet.) :shrug:

Such as?

[Beso]

I find it funny...really really funny. ..when a mixed race woman black balls her family..


Then everyone blames race when that woman clings onto a white man... they then blame white folks opinions on the subject for there own hidden thoughts....because they instantly see her as a struggling black woman mixed up in the British royal family..but need to have an outlet for thier black white instant thought....


Nothing more than closet racists...

[Marsh.]

I find it funny...really really funny. ..when a mixed race woman black balls her family..


Then everyone blames race when that woman clings onto a white man... they then blame white folks opinions on the subject for there own hidden thoughts....because they instantly see her as a struggling black woman mixed up in the British royal family..but need to have an outlet for thier black white instant thought....


Nothing more than closet racists...

Well, your idea that she's "clinging" onto the white man is kind of self evident.

[Beso]

Well, your idea that she's "clinging" onto the white man is kind of self evident.

I was being kind to gingers...and harry...

Cause he's punching...but shes clinging on for fame n fortune...which is clearly evident now

[James]

Posts deleted. There's no need for members to be insulting each other over this.

[arista]

Posts deleted. There's no need for members to be insulting each other over this.


Thats Fair.


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[jet]

HOW DARE A PREGNANT WOMAN RUB HER OWN BELLY IN PUBLIC!

It's okay when white people do it but it's obviously a sign of Meghan's plan to dismantle the monarchy when she does it!

Marsh should definitely educate his common and uneducated self by reading the same gullible drivel as you do!

She has done plenty wrong actually, rubbing her belly is not a problem to me.

I don't read gullible drivel, obviously many do as they are just parroting it. I suspect the rubbing the belly criticisms come from social media drivel anyway...where every celeb gets a lashing no matter what colour skin they have. The best skin to have is a thick one if you are in the public eye, especially a new royal family member marrying a loved prince.
If you can't hack it, run, which is what she is doing.

[jet]

Thats Fair.


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So the Queen, Charles, William and Harry are holding a crisis meeting together on Monday and Meghan has already run off back to Canada to let Harry face the music alone. She will talk by phone though this may be difficult with the time difference.
She's a coward.

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/nGdq7pr.jpg

[arista]

So the Queen, Charles, William and Harry are holding a crisis meeting together on Monday and Meghan has already run off back to Canada to let Harry face the music alone. She will talk by phone though this may be difficult with the time difference.
She's a coward.


Yes
she is better out of the way
it can now get sorted.

[Twosugars]

Brexit Britain :skull:

[jet]

Yes
she is better out of the way
it can now get sorted.

I guess Arista. Good that Harry can talk to the Queen, his Dad and William without Meghan in his ear.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOB2wbEX0AEvtd3?format=jpg&name=900x900
Sort it out today.
Now that American Meghan
is in Canada.

[jet]

William - 'I've put my arm around my brother all our lives. I can't do it anymore.'
Williams sadness as Queen calls family crisis summit.

Sunday Times.

This is so the real sadness in all this - Harry's disconnect from the brother who has supported him thought thick and thin all his life.
It's hard not to connect Meghan in all this. She cut her father and family out of her life, she cut many former friends out of her life, she sent back her wedding ring by post to her ex husband, much to his dismay, she cut off many of Harrys friends, now I suspect she is cutting Harry off from his family. There is a pattern there.
Old discarded friends, probably hurting, say she is a social climber and attenton seeker - though charming and lovely if you are 'in'.
The woman is trouble and it seems she can't keep relationships going. She gushes over the likes of the Clooneys and the Beckhams and Oprah as her new found buddies and advisors - but are they really her friends or just want to be associated with royalty? They were all at her wedding though she hardly knew them then while her old friends and Harry's were cast off. And will Harry adapt to that kind of life - Harry who said in the past he hated being thought of as a celebrity, all he wanted was to support his beloved grandmother.
Meghan will thrive and what is Harry going to do - trail after her round the glossy galas and celeb circuit and be overshadowed by her? He's not as savvy or as intelligent as she is, he's been in the royal bubble all his life...and those that know him well say he is a very sensitive and emotional guy whose heart rules his head.
This won't end well.

[Mystic Mock]

More generalisations with no substance. There's so much of it, yet apparently, you can't provide any of it.

The big question that needs to be asked is why are the Media printing more negativity on Harry and Meghan's relationship than they are on Andrew and his "unique" friends? I will be generous by calling it unique.

[AnnieK]

I think people are doing Harry a massive disservice here making out he's Meghans puppet in all of this.

He's a 30 odd year old bloke, not a kid. He's always been the rebel of the family public drinking, smoking, wearing questionable fancy dress etc etc. He was a serving soldier who has served on the front line. He has never made any secret of his dislike of the media who he blames for the death of his mother but all of a sudden none of the matters because Meghan is cuckolding him and making all the decisions? I doubt it.

No-one knows the dynamics of the relationship. All I see is a couple who outwardly appear besotted with each other, a small child who they adore and the desire to make their family safe and happy. If that means moving so be it.....the money issue is something they need to sort out privately.

I do think they have rushed out the announcement and it is a knee jerk reaction to something that has happened before closed doors.

[Nicky91]

I think people are doing Harry a massive disservice here making out he's Meghans puppet in all of this.

He's a 30 odd year old bloke, not a kid. He's always been the rebel of the family public drinking, smoking, wearing questionable fancy dress etc etc. He was a serving soldier who has served on the front line. He has never made any secret of his dislike of the media who he blames for the death of his mother but all of a sudden none of the matters because Meghan is cuckolding him and making all the decisions? I doubt it.

No-one knows the dynamics of the relationship. All I see is a couple who outwardly appear besotted with each other, a small child who they adore and the desire to make their family safe and happy. If that means moving so be it.....the money issue is something they need to sort out privately.

I do think they have rushed out the announcement and it is a knee jerk reaction to something that has happened before closed doors.

completely agree, Harry has been Always like this

there has been no manipulating whatsoever from Meghan


so for Harry to be made the victim, and Meghan the villain is quite silly and unnecessary

[Cherie]

I don't need to look it up. I think you need to do your research.

IMO, NOBODY bar a small margin of people in the world would deserve the type of press mauling the UK press are capable of.

But there's a vast difference between a backlash for something someone has done, and a tirade of abuse.... simply for existing.

the Duchess of Pork was levied after she had a baby, her crime was putting weight on while pregnant

[Ammi]

...for me personally, there are so many comparisons that I’d be unable to make with the older generation Royals...because those weren’t internet/social media days...and that’s one of the main areas of the racist undertones as specified in the Palace statement...there are ‘areas of abuse’ that are very specific to this younger generation...

[bots]

i think the major problem with Harry and Meghan is that they want to vilify the media while at the same time using them for their own benefit. By stepping away from royal duties, they are not harming the media who will always find stories to write about them wherever they are in the world. They are depriving the British people (the vast majority of whom love the royal family) of an institution. Stepping away from the British public will do them endless amounts of harm because it will be their charities that will ultimately suffer through lack of support

[Kazanne]

There may be a few people that don't like her because she is mixed race , but the majority of people just haven't warmed to her and that's their prerogative , I really don't think its about race at all, how has she been racially targeted ? all I can remember is the picture with the chimp , that guy had the sack and is not heard of now , so what else has she endured with racism ? It maybe what a few people think ,but I don't see it , I do agree with Cherie, Fergie had much more negativity and still has with the press , They should just leave and leave their royalty and perks behind ,there are much more important things happening in the world .

[arista]

i think the major problem with Harry and Meghan is that they want to vilify the media while at the same time using them for their own benefit. By stepping away from royal duties, they are not harming the media who will always find stories to write about them wherever they are in the world. They are depriving the British people (the vast majority of whom love the royal family) of an institution. Stepping away from the British public will do them endless amounts of harm because it will be their charities that will ultimately suffer through lack of support


Yes they can "Bog Off"
She took her 2 dogs to Canada
so that's proof she is gone from Our Great Nation
We can move on.

If a Terrorist group takes
them hostage
it will be Her fault.

[AnnieK]

There may be a few people that don't like her because she is mixed race , but the majority of people just haven't warmed to her and that's their prerogative , I really don't think its about race at all, how has she been racially targeted ? all I can remember is the picture with the chimp , that guy had the sack and is not heard of now , so what else has she endured with racism ? It maybe what a few people think ,but I don't see it , I do agree with Cherie, Fergie had much more negativity and still has with the press , They should just leave and leave their royalty and perks behind ,there are much more important things happening in the world .

I don't think they can just step away and leave the perks though.....whether Harry says he's stepped back or not he is still the Queens grandson....still a high risk kidnap target etc. Whatever the situation he is and always will be a member of the Royal family, as is Meghan and Archie so they will need to be protected in order to protect the familt as a whole

[AnnieK]

Yes they can "Bog Off"
She took her 2 dogs to Canada
so that's proof she is gone from Our Great Nation
We can move on.

If a Terrorist group takes
them hostage
it will be Her fault.

Nope, it will be the terrorists fault

[Liam-]

She was sent white power mail which was investigated as a hate crime, there are many instances of racial abuse against her.

It makes me laugh when people try to argue against the racism she’s received by saying ‘other than these very obvious, horrid examples of racism, what racism has she actually received?’

[arista]

Nope, it will be the terrorists fault



Sure but they need
24/7 Protection

[AnnieK]

Sure but they need
24/7 Protection

As do most of the Royals.....that would have been the case with Harry whoever he married. He is a prolific member of the family...the Queens grandson, the future Kings son, Princess Dianas son, etcetc...that makes him a target wherever and whoever he is with

[Liam-]

I don't think they can just step away and leave the perks though.....whether Harry says he's stepped back or not he is still the Queens grandson....still a high risk kidnap target etc. Whatever the situation he is and always will be a member of the Royal family, as is Meghan and Archie so they will need to be protected in order to protect the familt as a whole

Yeah it’s spinning my head how people are twisting their actions to seem like they’re abandoning their family, like they’re gonna turn around and shove Lizzie in a home to get away from them all, they want to step back from duties and stop being so dependent on the family to live, I don’t know how that can be seen as a bad thing?

[Ammi]

‘Rachel Johnson labeled Meghan’s mother, Doria Ragland, “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks who lives in LA.”..’...

‘The Mail published an article that month suggesting that Los Angeles-born Meghan was “straight outta Compton,” in reference to a song by the ’80s hip-hop group N.W.A...’...

‘Shortly after Harry and Meghan announced their engagement in 2017, the Mail received criticism after it ran a piece with an accompanying tweet that read, “From slaves to royalty, Meghan Markle’s upwardly mobile family.” ...’...

‘In May, the BBC fired radio host Danny Baker after he tweeted an image of a couple holding hands with a chimpanzee, shortly after Harry and Meghan welcomed their first child, Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. He wrote in the since-deleted post’s caption: “Royal Baby leaves hospital.”...’...

‘He later apologized, saying the “gag pic” was intended as a “joke about royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted,”..’...



...there were undoubtedly racist undertones with regards to Meghan, which should never be diminished because it diminishes racism/prejudice/bigotry as a whole...

[thesheriff443]

My opinion on Megan is not based on the colour of her skin.

It’s based on the fact she has come into a family and come between two brothers that were very close.

We all know of real life situations were someone meets someone and they drop family and friends due to a new relationship.

Megan like anyone got negative press from her actions.
Abusing palace staff making demands.

Demanding neighbors sign non disclosure forms
2.4 million spent on a home they are not going live in.

Not spending Christmas with the queen.

Harry looks like a love sick puppy.

[arista]

‘Rachel Johnson labeled Meghan’s mother, Doria Ragland, “a dreadlocked African-American lady from the wrong side of the tracks who lives in LA.”..’...

‘The Mail published an article that month suggesting that Los Angeles-born Meghan was “straight outta Compton,” in reference to a song by the ’80s hip-hop group N.W.A...’...

‘Shortly after Harry and Meghan announced their engagement in 2017, the Mail received criticism after it ran a piece with an accompanying tweet that read, “From slaves to royalty, Meghan Markle’s upwardly mobile family.” ...’...

‘In May, the BBC fired radio host Danny Baker after he tweeted an image of a couple holding hands with a chimpanzee, shortly after Harry and Meghan welcomed their first child, Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. He wrote in the since-deleted post’s caption: “Royal Baby leaves hospital.”...’...

‘He later apologized, saying the “gag pic” was intended as a “joke about royals vs circus animals in posh clothes but interpreted as about monkeys & race, so rightly deleted,”..’...



...there were undoubtedly racist undertones with regards to Meghan, which should never be diminished because it diminishes racism/prejudice/bigotry as a whole...



Yes all in the past now.

[Kazanne]

She was sent white power mail which was investigated as a hate crime, there are many instances of racial abuse against her.

It makes me laugh when people try to argue against the racism she’s received by saying ‘other than these very obvious, horrid examples of racism, what racism has she actually received?’

Well post the links then we can see for ourselves, all I have seen is the offensive chimp pic. :shrug: but there again I am not much of a one for newspapers as a source of info , they all have their own agendas, it's like the racism card is a must for their reason to step back,it's really not.

[Kazanne]

Yeah it’s spinning my head how people are twisting their actions to seem like they’re abandoning their family, like they’re gonna turn around and shove Lizzie in a home to get away from them all, they want to step back from duties and stop being so dependent on the family to live, I don’t know how that can be seen as a bad thing?

No one has said that, stop being dramatic, I have said before let them go and be happy they can still visit their family, it's not a bad thing as long as that is what they do.

[Twosugars]

Yeah it’s spinning my head how people are twisting their actions to seem like they’re abandoning their family, like they’re gonna turn around and shove Lizzie in a home to get away from them all, they want to step back from duties and stop being so dependent on the family to live, I don’t know how that can be seen as a bad thing?

Bigoted hysteria.
Just proves how right they are to seek change.

[Kizzy]

Now, a campaign group, who have in the past helped to push back against the spurious narratives of right wing groups like the BNP and EDL, has trawled through 5,200 abusive messages aimed at the 37-year-old in the last two months and made a staggering discovery.

Of these thousands of messages, 3,600 Tweets were sent from just 20 accounts, meaning 70 per cent of the trolling in January and February was created by these few people, whose entire online presence has been dedicated to bullying of the philanthropist.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/amp26760612/meghan-markle-racist-trolling/

[Twosugars]

Now, a campaign group, who have in the past helped to push back against the spurious narratives of right wing groups like the BNP and EDL, has trawled through 5,200 abusive messages aimed at the 37-year-old in the last two months and made a staggering discovery.

Of these thousands of messages, 3,600 Tweets were sent from just 20 accounts, meaning 70 per cent of the trolling in January and February was created by these few people, whose entire online presence has been dedicated to bullying of the philanthropist.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.elle.com/uk/life-and-culture/amp26760612/meghan-markle-racist-trolling/

Shocking. These people should be prosecuted

[bots]

I am failing to understand Harry and Meghans logic. You can't step back from being a senior royal, by birth and marriage you either are or you are not. All they seem to be doing is cutting back on public appearances on behalf of the queen and i'm not really sure how that affects anything. Have people held angry demonstrations at those appearances, have they been the subject of racial slurs during those events?

I think they just want to tell the world that they are pissed off ... and if that is the case ... i couldn't care less.

[Tom4784]

She has done plenty wrong actually, rubbing her belly is not a problem to me.

I don't read gullible drivel, obviously many do as they are just parroting it. I suspect the rubbing the belly criticisms come from social media drivel anyway...where every celeb gets a lashing no matter what colour skin they have. The best skin to have is a thick one if you are in the public eye, especially a new royal family member marrying a loved prince.
If you can't hack it, run, which is what she is doing.

As Marsh has said, you keep saying she's done wrong but you aren't actually saying what her apparent crimes are, you're just looking down on us for seeing through something that is very transparent.

The white privilege of you to think that someone who is the target of endless racism needs to get 'thick skin'. Instead of taking issue with the racism, you're blaming the target of that racism and that says it all.

[rusticgal]

There may be a few people that don't like her because she is mixed race , but the majority of people just haven't warmed to her and that's their prerogative , I really don't think its about race at all, how has she been racially targeted ? all I can remember is the picture with the chimp , that guy had the sack and is not heard of now , so what else has she endured with racism ? It maybe what a few people think ,but I don't see it , I do agree with Cherie, Fergie had much more negativity and still has with the press , They should just leave and leave their royalty and perks behind ,there are much more important things happening in the world .


I couldn’t agree more Kaz :wavey:

[LukeB]

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[rusticgal]

As Marsh has said, you keep saying she's done wrong but you aren't actually saying what her apparent crimes are, you're just looking down on us for seeing through something that is very transparent.

The white privilege of you to think that someone who is the target of endless racism needs to get 'thick skin'. Instead of taking issue with the racism, you're blaming the target of that racism and that says it all.


I think more than anything it’s about Meghan having things her way against Royal traditions.... the birth of her baby and not traditionally showing her son to the eagerly awaiting public as she left hospital. The christening all kept hush hush and no announcement of godparents...shared with the public by Royal tradition. If you join the Royal family then you do become public property...that’s part of it because we the public pay for them to enjoy all the luxuries that come with being Royal. Megan had a choice...Harry was born into it. They have many many things that we the Public don’t but in return they have to take the pitfalls and do things they perhaps don’t want to.
William had a hard time in my opinion adapting to the publicity in his teenage years but he has accepted his role and has come through with flying colours. Kate has been the epitome of the perfect wife and role model as a Royal.

[Tom4784]

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Pretty much, I'm surprised the racists aren't making out that she's responsible for Andrew's actions while they're at it. They are that ridiculous with their desperate attempts to justify their racist hatred and make it out to be something else.

[rusticgal]

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Pathetic....Andrew has been basically sacked from the Royal family because of the backlash....and Racism has nothing to do with the backlash against Meghan.