Prince Harry and Meghan have stepped back as Senior Members of the royal family

[Tom4784]

I think more than anything it’s about Meghan having things her way against Royal traditions.... the birth of her baby and not traditionally showing her son to the eagerly awaiting public as she left hospital. The christening all kept hush hush and no announcement of godparents...shared with the public by Royal tradition. If you join the Royal family then you do become public property...that’s part of it because we the public pay for them to enjoy all the luxuries that come with being Royal. Megan had a choice...Harry was born into it. They have many many things that we the Public don’t but in return they have to take the pitfalls and do things they perhaps don’t want to.
William had a hard time in my opinion adapting to the publicity in his teenage years but he has accepted his role and has come through with flying colours. Kate has been the epitome of the perfect wife and role model as a Royal.

Going against royal protocol was one of the reasons why Diana was loved. If Will and Kate had decided to do the same, Kate would have been praised for her bravery in going against the grain for the sake of her family's privacy.

It's also kind of sexist to make out that it's all Meghan's influence that's to blame, that she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when Harry has despised the media circus for years and is more than justified in hating it given his childhood. I think it's more likely that he became a dad and probably, in that moment, empathised fully with how Diana felt in her royal role and wanted no more part in it. The racist harassment that Meghan gets daily was probably a factor, after all would you sit back and grin and bear it if your spouse was being harassed because of the colour of their skin?

[LukeB]

Pathetic....Andrew has been basically sacked from the Royal family because of the backlash....and Racism has nothing to do with the backlash against Meghan.

Truth hurts :wavey: Meghan is getting way more hate than Andrew FACT. People’s attitude towards Meghan is gross and toxic. The reaction to Andrew is nothing compared to what people are doing to Meghan, who literally hasn’t done nothing wrong

[Tom4784]

Pathetic....Andrew has been basically sacked from the Royal family because of the backlash....and Racism has nothing to do with the backlash against Meghan.

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Choosing not to see the racism behind the hatred for Meghan in the press doesn't mean it doesn't exist, It just means you don't want to acknowledge it.

[LukeB]

Pretty much, I'm surprised the racists aren't making out that she's responsible for Andrew's actions while they're at it. They are that ridiculous with their desperate attempts to justify their racist hatred and make it out to be something else.

Yeah i’m surprised too, people are doing too much.

[Cherie]

Of course they has been some racism levied at her from ignorant quarters, but the majority of the UK took her to their heart, those that are interested in the Royals that is, unfortunately Harry and Meghan punished the wrong people for the actions of some idiots, like Rusti said not sharing details of the baby etc, Diana might have gone against Royal protocols but not in that fashion, she didn't dismiss the Royalists and people who turn out in the rain if they are doing a walkabout, and that is where Harry and Meghan have fallen short, I think most people would have had a lot more respect for both of them if they took their time over this move, if they had gone back to Canada for an extended break no one would have batted an eyelid, instead they chose to make it a media circus and that is not sitting well especially given the Queens age and Philips ill health

[LukeB]

Majority didn’t took to her at all, people had an issue with her from the minute it was announced she dating Harry. Everyone is entitled to keep things private :shrug: who bloody cares she didn’t announce details, hardly a bloody crime. The hate for that was OTT as well. I don’t blame Harry and Meghan stepping away and moving to canada. Good on them :love: lovely people

[Glenn.]

i blame the boomers

[Cherie]

Majority didn’t took to her at all, people had an issue with her from the minute it was announced she dating Harry. Everyone is entitled to keep things private :shrug: who bloody cares she didn’t announce details, hardly a bloody crime. The hate for that was OTT as well. I don’t blame Harry and Meghan stepping away and moving to canada. Good on them :love: lovely people

I disagree, it was very much a fairytale in the beginning. I don't think anyone particularly cares that they are moving to Canada, good luck to them, its the way its been done, they want no publicity yet here we are :laugh:

[LukeB]

I disagree, it was very much a fairytale in the beginning. I don't think anyone particularly cares that they are moving to Canada, good luck to them, its the way its been done, they want no publicity yet here we are :laugh:

people do care because it's all they are talking about now, they would be criticised for not announcing it like they were not giving us details about their baby. It was both of their choices but Meghan is getting majority of the hate and people calling her names like 'gold digger' 'manipulative'. All this hate is extremely toxic. She is human, all this hate could mentally hurt her so people need to chill.

[Cherie]

people do care because it's all they are talking about now, they would be criticised for not announcing it like they were not giving us details about their baby. It was both of their choices but Meghan is getting majority of the hate and people calling her names like 'gold digger' 'manipulative'. All this hate is extremely toxic. She is human, all this hate could mentally hurt her so people need to chill.

They announced it too early, there are no details confirmed, just their wish list, it’s not the public’s fault that happened, of course it’s going to create discussion

[LukeB]

They announced it too early, there are no details confirmed, just their wish list, it’s not the public’s fault that happened, of course it’s going to create discussion

too early, at the right time or too late, it would still be the same reaction. People would have knew what was going on anyway. Nothing stays hidden espically when you're in the royal family.

[rusticgal]

Going against royal protocol was one of the reasons why Diana was loved. If Will and Kate had decided to do the same, Kate would have been praised for her bravery in going against the grain for the sake of her family's privacy.

It's also kind of sexist to make out that it's all Meghan's influence that's to blame, that she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when Harry has despised the media circus for years and is more than justified in hating it given his childhood. I think it's more likely that he became a dad and probably, in that moment, empathised fully with how Diana felt in her royal role and wanted no more part in it. The racist harassment that Meghan gets daily was probably a factor, after all would you sit back and grin and bear it if your spouse was being harassed because of the colour of their skin?


Diana was adored by the public and when she was part of the Royal family she embraced everything...she made a few subtle changes like taking William to Australia when he was so young. Only when she was sidelined by them after her divorce did she make bigger and bolder decisions. I’m sorry but I don’t agree with the ‘racism’ ****e...it’s like you calling me sexist just because I happen to disagree with how she has gone about things...but then show admiration for Kate...But of course that will make me racist :shrug:not everything has to carry a label...it’s about behaviour accepting a role of not only being someone’s wife...but a Royal wife. There is a script that goes with it in return for the privileges...

[bots]

So is William also a racist? He hasn't changed anything and yet he says his brother has gone on a path he can no longer agree with

[rusticgal]

Truth hurts :wavey: Meghan is getting way more hate than Andrew FACT. People’s attitude towards Meghan is gross and toxic. The reaction to Andrew is nothing compared to what people are doing to Meghan, who literally hasn’t done nothing wrong


Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

[Liam-]

So is William also a racist? He hasn't changed anything and yet he says his brother has gone on a path he can no longer agree with

People aren’t racist for saying they disagree with their chosen path, people are racist for being racist

[LukeB]

Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

The reaction was tame compared to what Meghan is getting, it doesn't matter he actually did something vile and Meghan hasn't so the Meghan hate isn't justified. Meghan hasn't showed no signs of being a diva. Harry is still the same Harry:shrug: but of course blame the woman. 'Harry disrespected the queen" but Meghan gets the blame for something Harry apparently did. Always the woman's fault isn't it. Peoples reactions are justifying their move to canada and proves people have been nasty and toxic towards her.

[Glenn.]

Andrew has had a massive backlash...however he isn’t seen as a senior Royal. He and his family have very little attention from the public... However William and Harry have always been adored and imo have re established the Royal family. Meghan has done nothing bad but she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol. People see a change in Harry and if it wasn’t for her this wouldn’t be happening. Of course Harry will protect her..he obviously loves her but he has been disrespectful to the Queen...something he has always shown (apart from his wild days) so why would he treat her that way now?..and the obvious conclusion is that he is letting his wife rule his head...what Meghan wants Meghan gets and in the process he is casting all others close to him aside..

Where is your proof that ‘...she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol.’?
Where has this come from? Do you know her personally or in fact the family? Have you seen this for yourself or has it come from tabloids?

[thesheriff443]

Where is your proof that ‘...she has been seen as a diva...wanting her own way and digging her heals in at what is normal protocol.’?
Where has this come from? Do you know her personally or in fact the family? Have you seen this for yourself or has it come from tabloids?

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

[armand.kay]

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

He has a new family now. A wife and child that he has to prioritise now. Like how do you know moving away wasn't his idea??

[Twosugars]

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

Nonsense.
Harry grew up critical of the status quo. You think he forgot how his mother was treated by that institution?

[AnnieK]

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

[Twosugars]

The whole thing needs reforming.

Apparently Charles intends to reform it so all Harry did was to move first in that direction

[Twosugars]

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

Exactly.
People forget how unhappy Margaret was. Less said about the choices of Andrew, another spare, the better.

[Tom4784]

Diana was adored by the public and when she was part of the Royal family she embraced everything...she made a few subtle changes like taking William to Australia when he was so young. Only when she was sidelined by them after her divorce did she make bigger and bolder decisions. I’m sorry but I don’t agree with the ‘racism’ ****e...it’s like you calling me sexist just because I happen to disagree with how she has gone about things...but then show admiration for Kate...But of course that will make me racist :shrug:not everything has to carry a label...it’s about behaviour accepting a role of not only being someone’s wife...but a Royal wife. There is a script that goes with it in return for the privileges...

Oh drop the victim act and stop twisting my words.

If you don't think the hatred of Meghan isn't racially motivated then you haven't been paying attention or you simply don't want to see it. Closing your eyes to racism doesn't make it go away.

I said it's sexist to blame her and act like she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when he's got just as much reason to despise the media and want out as she does. She's being made out to be some sort of master manipulator when it's just as likely that he could be the driving force behind this but it's easier to blame the woman, I suppose.

Why the **** are you going on about 'labels' like Racism is akin to ****ing sexuality? If people act in racist ways, they'll get accused of being racist. This whole hate campaign against Meghan has always been nothing short of racism.

[thesheriff443]

He's his own man.....who says he's not just pissed off of living as a spare to the heir in William's shadow and wants to start finally living his own life. Maybe he wanted an American wife so he could base himself partly over there? No-one knows the true Royal family dynamic, its not like anything anyone of us could understand

Jesus Annie, he didn’t need an American wife to base himself in America, so if he wanted to base himself in Germany he would of got a German wife.

All this change has come about due to Megan nothing more.

[AnnieK]

Jesus Annie, he didn’t need an American wife to base himself in America, so if he wanted to base himself in Germany he would of got a German wife.

All this change has come about due to Megan nothing more.

No he didnt need an American wife, but it makes it easier? You know nothing about what their relationship is like....and neither do I.

You say its to do with Meghan and nothing more, I disagree and that is my prerogative as yours is yours. Nothing you could say will change my view and vice versa but I just think people are selling Harry short in all this. If he wanted to stay, he would have done.

[thesheriff443]

No he didnt need an American wife, but it makes it easier? You know nothing about what their relationship is like....and neither do I.

You say its to do with Meghan and nothing more, I disagree and that is my prerogative as yours is yours. Nothing you could say will change my view and vice versa but I just think people are selling Harry short in all this. If he wanted to stay, he would have done.

I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, but the fallout between Harry and William lays at megs feet because before she came on the scene Harry William and Kate were alway pictured together smiling and happy.

[Tom4784]

It's easy to put on a show for the cameras.

[Glenn.]

I’d say the proof is, she has got her husband to turn his back on his family and leaving the country.

That isn’t proof. That’s just more assumption

[Glenn.]

I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind, but the fallout between Harry and William lays at megs feet because before she came on the scene Harry William and Kate were alway pictured together smiling and happy.

Have Harry and William fallen out then?

[Liam-]

Harry and Wills fell out cause Harry didn’t like Wills playing away from his wife like daddy dearest did to their mother

[Glenn.]

If they even have fallen out.

[Liam-]

If they even have fallen out.

Well yeah, there is that

[jet]

As Marsh has said, you keep saying she's done wrong but you aren't actually saying what her apparent crimes are, you're just looking down on us for seeing through something that is very transparent.

The white privilege of you to think that someone who is the target of endless racism needs to get 'thick skin'. Instead of taking issue with the racism, you're blaming the target of that racism and that says it all.

There you go again, twisting my words. I said ANYONE in the public eye needs to have a thick skin, not just black people. You just can't have an honest debate can you without resorting to the 'this is what you really mean because I say so' tactic. You always assume you and you alone know what other people think. It's so damn irritating. Or maybe you just don't take in the written word very well. Also, an obsession with racism isn't healthy. Just saying.

There would be no point whatsover in me taking the time listing, in detail, all the reasons why a large majority of the public have not warmed at all to Meghan because I would just get - stop reading trashy tabloids! etc etc, it's all becasue she's mixed race! etc etc.
Even though the sources have come from trusted royal commentators and have proved to be the truth and I've seen her in interviews blatantly lying through her teeth. I don't have time for that ****e.
Maybe I'll do it bit by bit, but I certainly am not going to waste my time doing other peoples research for them. Reasons for the dislike are all out there - dozens upon dozens of valid reasons. But as you say to others, you'll only believe what you want to believe.
Not the case with me, actually. I research and believe what has stood the test of time as true or not and the voice of long time royal commentators who have proved reliable and accurate over many years. Look them up and read what they have to say over the Meghan years if you want a proper education on the negative side of Markle - her mad ambition and attenion seeking, her lies, her coldness, her total self absorption, her poor me victim tricks, her casting off of anyone who is no longer useful - and also the positives of course - its all out there.....seems people just go with what some celeb on twitter says or some other drivel on social media.
Does anyone watch interviews with royal commentaters or former experienced royal aides who actually know what they are talking about? Seems not.

[jet]

Harry and Wills fell out cause Harry didn’t like Wills playing away from his wife like daddy dearest did to their mother

See, this is what I mean in my post above. A stupid untrue rumour that is just brainless drivel is taken as gospel, while real things that have actually happened are cast aside as 'tabliod gossip' because it doesn't suit the agenda. Pathetic.

[Twosugars]

There you go again, twisting my words. I said ANYONE in the public eye needs to have a thick skin, not just black people. You just can't have an honest debate can you without resorting to the 'this is what you really mean because I say so' tactic. You always assume you and you alone know what other people think. It's so damn irritating. Or maybe you just don't take in the written word very well. Also, an obsession with racism isn't healthy. Just saying.

There would be no point whatsover in me taking the time listing, in detail, all the reasons why a large majority of the public have not warmed at all to Meghan because I would just get - stop reading trashy tabloids! etc etc, it's all becasue she's mixed race! etc etc.
Even though the sources have come from trusted royal commentators and have proved to be the truth and I've seen her in interviews blatantly lying through her teeth. I don't have time for that ****e.
Maybe I'll do it bit by bit, but I certainly am not going to waste my time doing other peoples research for them. Reasons for the dislike are all out there - dozens upon dozens of valid reasons. But as you say to others, you'll only believe what you want to believe.
Not the case with me, actually. I research and believe what has stood the test of time as true or not and the voice of long time royal commentators who have proved reliable and accurate over many years. Look them up and read what they have to say over the Meghan years if you want a proper education on the negative side of Markle - her mad ambition and attenion seeking, her lies, her coldness, her total self absorption, her poor me victim tricks, her casting off of anyone who is no longer useful - and also the positives of course - its all out there.....seems people just go with what some celeb on twitter says or some other drivel on social media.
Does anyone watch interviews with royal commentaters or former experienced royal aides who actually know what they are talking about? Seems not.

The unwritten rule here is you back up your statements not the other way round

Nobody has time to research your blatant prejudice against her mate :pat:

[rusticgal]

Oh drop the victim act and stop twisting my words.

If you don't think the hatred of Meghan isn't racially motivated then you haven't been paying attention or you simply don't want to see it. Closing your eyes to racism doesn't make it go away.

I said it's sexist to blame her and act like she's the Yoko Ono of the royal family when he's got just as much reason to despise the media and want out as she does. She's being made out to be some sort of master manipulator when it's just as likely that he could be the driving force behind this but it's easier to blame the woman, I suppose.

Why the **** are you going on about 'labels' like Racism is akin to ****ing sexuality? If people act in racist ways, they'll get accused of being racist. This whole hate campaign against Meghan has always been nothing short of racism.


Yeah ok.. sadly everything is based on Racism with you. I’m not racist and I base my opinions on behaviour. We have grown up with Harry...we all know he is wary of the press but he has always been supported and looked after by his family and has been very charismatic. He is at fault to some degree of not giving Meghan a longer introduction into the trials and tribulations of life in the Royal family...and more so his lack of respect to the Queen by dropping this bombshell.
Meghan has not done herself any favours by not conforming to Royal protocol as I have pointed out...it’s my opinion and shared by many...nothing to do with the colour of her skin...maybe by some but not the majority.

[LukeB]

What behaviour? Meghan hasn't shown anything bad. Meghan has been nothing but lovely and has done a lot for charities and still is. She hasn't shown no diva behaviour, she hasn't shown no manipulative behaviour or anything bad. Obviously Meghan being a woman makes people blame her for everything because it's never the male's fault or males never make the decision but race does play a part of the toxic hate.

[Cherie]

If they even have fallen out.

Well yeah, there is that

Harry confirmed it in an interview with Tom Bradbury, and Will alluded it today in the Times, so unlike the unproven ‘affair’ gossip, their fall out is fact

They have even separated from the Charity they started together, these stories all make the news, so how you two don’t know this is amazing, but you do know about the alleged affair

[Glenn.]

Harry confirmed it in an interview with Tom Bradbury, and Will alluded it today in the Times, so unlike the unproven ‘affair’ gossip, their fall out is fact

They have even separated from the Charity they started together, these stories all make the news, so how you two don’t know this is amazing, but you do know about the alleged affair

And I take it it’s also been confirmed that it’s Meghans fault for the fallout, since so many people here and everywhere are stating it as fact?

[rusticgal]

And I take it it’s also been confirmed that it’s Meghans fault for the fallout, since so many people here and everywhere are stating it as fact?

No one is stating it as fact...opinions are based on what we see and what we read. Unless you know them personally...which NO ONE on here does.

[jet]

The unwritten rule here is you back up your statements not the other way round

Nobody has time to research your blatant prejudice against her mate :pat:

The lazy way out. I've done my research so I can speak with knowledge, I don't have time to educate the masses with a long post full of sources because you know what - people would just say its all BS anyway or not even bother to read the sources. I've been here too long to think anybody will admit to changing their mind about anything. Thing is, they don't want to know the truth. If you do, then do your own research, if you don't, fine by me. I just disregard any ignorant opinions as what they are anyway- ignorant. :shrug:
Time will show I, and some others here who are more clued in, as right.

[jet]

What behaviour? Meghan hasn't shown anything bad. Meghan has been nothing but lovely and has done a lot for charities and still is. She hasn't shown no diva behaviour, she hasn't shown no manipulative behaviour or anything bad. Obviously Meghan being a woman makes people blame her for everything because it's never the male's fault or males never make the decision but race does play a part of the toxic hate.

:joker: I rest my case.

[Twosugars]

The lazy way out. I've done my research so I can speak with knowledge, I don't have time to educate the masses with a long post full of sources because you know what - people would just say its all BS anyway or not even bother to read the sources. I've been here too long to think anybody will admit to changing their mind about anything. Thing is, they don't want to know the truth. If you do, then do your own research, if you don't, fine by me. I just disregard any ignorant opinions as what they are anyway- ignorant. :shrug:
Time will show I, and some others here who are more clued in, as right.

I think you know your so called proofs are nothing more than some prejudiced opinion pieces published by unreliable sources

[Twosugars]

The mystery is why most royal brides except Kate rebelled? Fergie, Diana and now Meghan.

Saying it is all their fault is a bit short sighted

[rusticgal]

The mystery is why most royal brides except Kate rebelled? Fergie, Diana and now Meghan.

Saying it is all their fault is a bit short sighted


Fergie was a bit of a loose cannon...Diana only rebelled when Charles failed to hide his love for another woman.

[AnnieK]

Royal Aides and Palace "sources" are biased as to what side they want to take. At the end of the day Harry is an adult, an adult who has grown up in the most famous family, faced massive personal tragedy, served on the front line more than once in major conflicts, served his country in more ways more than what is expected of his lineage. He now wants the family life he has craved since childhood and people are blaming the woman he adores for ripping him from the totally detached, archaic, traditionalist bosom of family his own mother tried to shield him from. Shocking....bring back the ducking stool...she is obviously a witch and he is under her spell

[jet]

I think you know your so called proofs are nothing more than some prejudiced opinion pieces published by unreliable sources

You've just proved my point of why I wouldn't be bothered and you didn't even realize it, silly old you. :laugh2:

[Twosugars]

You've just proved my point of why I wouldn't be bothered and you didn't even realize it, silly old you. :laugh2:

Say what you want but refusing to back up your argument doesnt look good :hehe:

[Twosugars]

Fergie was a bit of a loose cannon...Diana only rebelled when Charles failed to hide his love for another woman.

Even Margaret, another spare, went off the rails.


All this points out the current system doesnt work well.
Theres something unhealthy and suffocating for these people, something that makes them frustrated and unhappy.
Add to that vicious press and no wonder they want to break free.

[AnnieK]

You've just proved my point of why I wouldn't be bothered and you didn't even realize it, silly old you. :laugh2:

To be fair....that is not helping your cause Jet. I would be interested to read what you have to base your findings. I have a very liberal view of all Royals, I think kate and william are a fantastic couple who do a lot of good for the progression of the monarchy and thought harry and Meghan would do also.

I am read a variety of Royal correspondents and the reports vary from Palace to Palace as to where their allegiances lie so very much like mainstream media and so I would love to read your research or at least know what to search to broaden my knowledge

[Twosugars]

I hoped Diana was a lesson to them but it looks like it's same old, same old

[Twosugars]

https://i.imgur.com/eJxXmKb.jpg

[Twosugars]

A post from the Guardian saying it all



Top Comments at the Mail:
Harry you married a monster, time to wake up and start divorce proceedings before she destroys any self respect that you have left. 7,000 likes
MM is a disgrace, I am English, and the Canadians or whoever can have her. All she has done is secure HER future with a baby linked to royalty and secured a pile of money WHEN the marriage fails. She was NEVER in it for LOVE! 10,000 likes
She married Harry for money and fame. She never cared about the monarchy or the UK. She's using the BRF to build her own brand. She will dump Harry in a couple of years and the divorce will be crazy. 2,000 likes
In other words she is a sociopath that uses people for her own gain and leaves destruction in her wake. 1,000 likes

That's really just the tip of the hateful iceberg. Why would anyone want to live in a country full of nasty pricks like that?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[jet]

To be fair....that is not helping your cause Jet. I would be interested to read what you have to base your findings. I have a very liberal view of all Royals, I think kate and william are a fantastic couple who do a lot of good for the progression of the monarchy and thought harry and Meghan would do also.

I am read a variety of Royal correspondents and the reports vary from Palace to Palace as to where their allegiances lie so very much like mainstream media and so I would love to read your research or at least know what to search to broaden my knowledge

Hi Annie, thanks for your response. It's hard to trawl through so much stuff so here is a little -
One very reliable and impartial source is royal biographer (and Harry's biographer) Penny Junor. She has written a very good piece on the recent crisis in the DM which is well worth reading.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7874689/PENNY-JUNOR-fear-Prince-Harry-trajectory-self-destruction.html

I have relied a lot on her over the years as she is 'in' with all the Palace aides who brief her and she has commented a lot on Meghan and Harry since their engagement in TV interviews and the press. She doesn't mince her words but does it in a way which is trying to help the couple, as such.

Another I have always admired is Diana's old confidant, royal photographer Arthur Edwards. Diana and the boys adored him. There is an utube video I'd love you to see where he gets quite emotional about the recent crisis and Meghans influence on Harry (I can't access utube right now and can't post the link so see below...) Its quite long but please stick with it when you have time and let me know what you think).

Utube:
Royal photographer Arthur Edwards reveals all on Prince Harry and Meghan Markle quitting the royals.

Those 2 speak plainly and honestly, tell it as it is, but with obvious care and affection. That is why they have been my go - to's over the years.

Others include Richard Kay and Dickie Arbiter.

These 4 have basically had the same criticisms and praises too for Meghan over the last number of years.

There are more and so much more to google, and really you can tell by the tone and their credentials what is honest criticism and what is just salacious gossip.
I hope this helps!

[jet]

A post from the Guardian saying it all

The Mail actually write pretty balanced articles about Meghan and Harry. I've read glowing ones as well as critical. As with all papers I read, you get to know through time which authors are authentic and which are just gossip mongering.
It doesn't really say it all. Comments in any online paper are vicious, depending which side you are on. Vicious as they are, there is often a grain of truth to them but put out in a horrible way. That's social media for you....

[jet]

What has really angered me with this crisis is the way they ignored the Queens request not to put anything out publicly until it was talked through, then they went ahead and did it anyway, giving her 10 minutes notice.
The disrespect for the Queen is astounding.
She is 93 years old, her beloved husband is in very bad health and just out of hospital, and she has just been throught the wringer with the Andrew saga.
Couldn't they have waited, what is the rush? How inconsiderate, thoughless and selfish are these two self absorbed, woe is me brats?
Disgusting.

But its par for the course. She stands there in South Africa where the people suffer terrible hardship and poverty and where young girls are raped in there hundreds daily and when interviewed complained and whined about how hard their mega privileged lives are (boo hoo) and its not enough to survive, you need to thrive (boo hoo). Her self absorbed me me me self didn't even grasp the irony.

[Ammi]

...it was heart breaking to see that the scars are still so raw with Harry...not only saying that most of what is written is untrue, but that he ‘didn’t want a repeat of the past’ and wouldn’t be bullied into going down that same road..:sad:...it’s easy to see why they’re making the decision that they have...

[Kizzy]

I hoped Diana was a lesson to them but it looks like it's same old, same old

I agree, I remember there was a mock up of a agony aunt letter printed in the sun newspaper I think when Charles and di split. I'll see if I can find it, it was revolting, and just goes to show that even if you are initially loved by the nation if you upset 'the firm' as the royals are referred to then you will be destroyed.
Meghan wasn't even liked initially so the backlash for her to this action by Harry is going to be brutal.

[Cherie]

A post from the Guardian saying it all

Social media trolls say it all ..lol

[Ammi]

...the truth is that none of it says it all...it all just says some of it and so much will play a part in a decision that they’ve both made because they feel it’s the best decision for their family right now...one thing I think that is for sure though...Harry is deeply scarred by past things his mother went through and by her early death, obviously...and he’s fiercely protecting the people he loves, I wish them all as much happiness as they can possible have in their lives...:love:...

[thesheriff443]

...the truth is that none of it says it all...it all just says some of it and so much will play a part in a decision that they’ve both made because they feel it’s the best decision for their family right now...one thing I think that is for sure though...Harry is deeply scarred by past things his mother went through and by her early death, obviously...and he’s fiercely protecting the people he loves, I wish them all as much happiness as they can possible have in their lives...:love:...

It won’t work,reality is that they come from totally different life styles.

Megan will be back in here comfort zone and Harry will be a fish out of water.

[Ammi]

...let them try and fail, rather than never have tried at all...I’m sure there's a saying/..or should be...this is a path that they’ve decided to walk together because other paths haven’t felt right for them...if they fall, they fall together...and we only stand in life because we fall.../..Batman philosophy...

[thesheriff443]

...let them try and fail, rather than never have tried at all...I’m sure there's a saying/..or should be...this is a path that they’ve decided to walk together because other paths haven’t felt right for them...if they fall, they fall together...and we only stand in life because we fall.../..Batman philosophy...

Nothing I say will stop them trying.

[user104658]

The royals cacking their pants over the idea that Harry might spill their dirty secrets, and bullying/blackmailing them into staying?

Says it all really.

[Cherie]

...let them try and fail, rather than never have tried at all...I’m sure there's a saying/..or should be...this is a path that they’ve decided to walk together because other paths haven’t felt right for them...if they fall, they fall together...and we only stand in life because we fall.../..Batman philosophy...

Absolutely no on pe the thread has said they don’t want them to go, I sincerely doubt they will have any issue making cash, the issue is with how they have gone about it :shrug:

[Marsh.]

More Piers faux-outrage this morning. :joker:

[Marsh.]

Paul Burrell being a GMB spokesperson. :joker:

[Cherie]

The royals cacking their pants over the idea that Harry might spill their dirty secrets, and bullying/blackmailing them into staying?

Says it all really.

Isn’t it the other way around? It was Tom Bradbury, Harrys close pal who alluded to this

[Marsh.]

It's hard not to connect Meghan in all this. She cut her father and family out of her life, she cut many former friends out of her life, she sent back her wedding ring by post to her ex husband, much to his dismay, she cut off many of Harrys friends, now I suspect she is cutting Harry off from his family. There is a pattern there.
The woman is trouble and it seems she can't keep relationships going. She gushes over the likes of the Clooneys and the Beckhams and Oprah as her new found buddies and advisors - but are they really her friends or just want to be associated with royalty? They were all at her wedding though she hardly knew them then while her old friends and Harry's were cast off. And will Harry adapt to that kind of life - Harry who said in the past he hated being thought of as a celebrity, all he wanted was to support his beloved grandmother.
Meghan will thrive and what is Harry going to do - trail after her round the glossy galas and celeb circuit and be overshadowed by her? He's not as savvy or as intelligent as she is, he's been in the royal bubble all his life...and those that know him well say he is a very sensitive and emotional guy whose heart rules his head.
This won't end well.

Oh my god what a load of baloney. You do realise they're real people? Three dimensional people, not characters in a movie? You get that, right?

Poor Harry Windsor not intelligent or savvy enough. Bless him.


I've seen her in interviews blatantly lying through her teeth. I don't have time for that ****e.
I research and believe what has stood the test of time as true or not and the voice of long time royal commentators who have proved reliable and accurate over many years. Look them up and read what they have to say over the Meghan years if you want a proper education on the negative side of Markle - her mad ambition and attenion seeking, her lies, her coldness, her total self absorption, her poor me victim tricks, her casting off of anyone who is no longer useful

So nothing substantial or factual then?

You saw her lie in an interview because you're more intelligent than poor naive Harry?

I've done my research so I can speak with knowledge

Your "knowledge" consists of pretending you know them as people behind closed doors, have any idea of their marriage, assumed you know her more than Harry, that your more intelligent than Harry for knowing this woman more than him despite having never met his wife and mother of his child and judged her based on tabloid stories about her first marriage and subsequent divorce. Ridiculous.

[Kazanne]

Harry and Wills fell out cause Harry didn’t like Wills playing away from his wife like daddy dearest did to their mother

Is there any proof of this or is the media leading people again ?

[Kazanne]

Yeah ok.. sadly everything is based on Racism with you. I’m not racist and I base my opinions on behaviour. We have grown up with Harry...we all know he is wary of the press but he has always been supported and looked after by his family and has been very charismatic. He is at fault to some degree of not giving Meghan a longer introduction into the trials and tribulations of life in the Royal family...and more so his lack of respect to the Queen by dropping this bombshell.
Meghan has not done herself any favours by not conforming to Royal protocol as I have pointed out...it’s my opinion and shared by many...nothing to do with the colour of her skin...maybe by some but not the majority.

Some just use the racism card as a way to have a go rusti , I'm the same as you , I have never seen her as a woman of colour , but because you are critical of her you must be racist, seems some have pretty big chips on their shoulders, some people maybe just don't like her it happens :wavey:

[Marsh.]

Some just use the racism card as a way to have a go rusti , I'm the same as you , I have never seen her as a woman of colour , but because you are critical of her you must be racist, seems some have pretty big chips on their shoulders, some people maybe just don't like her it happens :wavey:

Responses like this don't really make sense Kaz.

Just because you don't see her as a woman of colour doesn't mean the racism thrown at her doesn't exist. An odd argument to make really.

[Liam-]

Is there any proof of this or is the media leading people again ?

Is there any proof that Meghan is a manipulative control freak ripping poor innocent Harry away from his family, or are the media just inventing things to attack a woman again?

[Marsh.]

So the Queen, Charles, William and Harry are holding a crisis meeting together on Monday and Meghan has already run off back to Canada to let Harry face the music alone.
She's a coward.

I guess Arista. Good that Harry can talk to the Queen, his Dad and William without Meghan in his ear.

So she's abandoned him and is acting cowardly.... except she's not as Harry shouldn't have her in his ear?

So basically a can't win situation. She stays... she's interfering and controlling poor cuckolded Harry. She goes... she's a coward, abandoning her husband.

Guff.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is there any proof that Meghan is a manipulative control freak ripping poor innocent Harry away from his family, or are the media just inventing things to attack a woman again?


Well if you can post where that specific description came from we can understand your point, otherwise you must have made it up?:shrug:

[Kazanne]

Is there any proof that Meghan is a manipulative control freak ripping poor innocent Harry away from his family, or are the media just inventing things to attack a woman again?

I never said there was , you don't need to answer a question with a question ,all I asked was was there proof of your claim , nothing wrong with that , no need to get so defensive for what it's worth,I am no fan of the media.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I never said there was , you don't need to answer a question with a question ,all I asked was was there proof of your claim , nothing wrong with that , no need to get so defensive for what it's worth,I am no fan of the media.

its a scurrilous twitter rumour and has no basis in truth

[Kazanne]

its a scurrilous twitter rumour and has no basis in truth

Why do people even listen to Twitter gossip, so many untruths on there.

[Liam-]

Opposed to the very honest media? Cause people seem to believe everything they say about Meghan

[Cherie]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex feel forced out by Prince William's 'bullying attitude' and Meghan is determined to quit the royal family as her 'heartbroken' husband tries to force an abdication deal with his 93-year-old grandmother today, it has been claimed.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal...XXy?li=BBoPWjQ

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex feel forced out by Prince William's 'bullying attitude' and Meghan is determined to quit the royal family as her 'heartbroken' husband tries to force an abdication deal with his 93-year-old grandmother today, it has been claimed.

:joker:

yes William is quite the "bully"

[Cherie]

:joker:

yes William is quite the "bully"

I cant post the link but its in the Mail :omgno:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal-family/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-feel-forced-out-by-bullying-william-friends-claim-as-deeply-hurt-queen-gathers-royals-for-megxit-summit-where-couple-will-be-warned-abdication-could-take-months/ar-BBYSXXy?li=BBoPWjQ

[Niamh.]

:joker:

yes William is quite the "bully"

How would you know if he was or wasn't tbf though

[user104658]

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex feel forced out by Prince William's 'bullying attitude' and Meghan is determined to quit the royal family as her 'heartbroken' husband tries to force an abdication deal with his 93-year-old grandmother today, it has been claimed.

Honestly I reckon what people are perceiving as her being "in his ear" or "manipulating him", is actually feelings he's had for many years coming to the surface, and her being the first person he's been close to who has actually validated those feelings and supported him in standing up for himself instead of toeing the line. Again, look at old press! Why are we pretending that Harry rebelling from the Royals started when he met Meghan?? Selective memory. He's had enough and she's simply the first person to say "then why keep doing it?" ... so obviously, she's a demon. How dare she suggest that he be happy instead of pandering to the whims of bloodthirsty British "celeb culture"?

[user104658]

How would you know if he was or wasn't tbf though

He bought some tat from him for his dorm room at St. Andrews and he was a lovely chap. Quite spiffing.

[Liam-]

Honestly I reckon what people are perceiving as her being "in his ear" or "manipulating him", is actually feelings he's had for many years coming to the surface, and her being the first person he's been close to who has actually validated those feelings and supported him in standing up for himself instead of toeing the line. Again, look at old press! Why are we pretending that Harry rebelling from the Royals started when he met Meghan?? Selective memory. He's had enough and she's simply the first person to say "then why keep doing it?" ... so obviously, she's a demon. How dare she suggest that he be happy instead of pandering to the whims of bloodthirsty British "celeb culture"?

:clap2:

[Cherie]

Honestly I reckon what people are perceiving as her being "in his ear" or "manipulating him", is actually feelings he's had for many years coming to the surface, and her being the first person he's been close to who has actually validated those feelings and supported him in standing up for himself instead of toeing the line. Again, look at old press! Why are we pretending that Harry rebelling from the Royals started when he met Meghan?? Selective memory. He's had enough and she's simply the first person to say "then why keep doing it?" ... so obviously, she's a demon. How dare she suggest that he be happy instead of pandering to the whims of bloodthirsty British "celeb culture"?

I literally don't care what they do, but they do seem to want their cake and eat it currently, they will also have been aware of the media storm this would have caused so given they want a quite life, it doesn't really marry up

[Kazanne]

Opposed to the very honest media? Cause people seem to believe everything they say about Meghan

The media are as bad imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How would you know if he was or wasn't tbf though

he isnt a bully ffs, he is harry's big brother

[Niamh.]

he isnt a bully ffs, he is harry's big brother

You couldn't possibly know what goes on between them all behind closed doors and you stating it as fact is disingenuous

[Zizu]

Soooo apparently Queenie fired the first shot ..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/beb5a6993498b7fb1fca4aa0ea60ab2a.jpg


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[Marsh.]

I literally don't care what they do, but they do seem to want their cake and eat it currently, they will also have been aware of the media storm this would have caused so given they want a quite life, it doesn't really marry up

There'd be media attention no matter what so you can't really accuse them of courting the attention when that will happen regardless of what they do.

[Marsh.]

he isnt a bully ffs, he is harry's big brother

I'm sorry, are you stating some forgotten fact that biological brothers cannot be bullying?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You couldn't possibly know what goes on between them all behind closed doors and you stating it as fact is disingenuous

I am stating my opinion of seeing this lad grow up from a baby,, who his parents are, everytime i have seen him in public and who he is married to and her family. He isnt a bully

anyroad the article refers to a "bullying attitude "(ie made up BS) and its a claim from a non named source so is probably totally made up to troll.

[Marsh.]

But what we see in public can easily be a facade. That's what all the Meghan-detractors have taught us.

[user104658]

Soooo apparently Queenie fired the first shot ..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200113/beb5a6993498b7fb1fca4aa0ea60ab2a.jpg


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To be fair that's the direct line of succession (Queen - Charlie - William - George 'cept the world will have boiled by then) and Harry is nowhere near that these days, especially as it was changed to be gender inclusive so all of Williams sprogs are on the list before Harry.

[user104658]

I am stating my opinion of seeing this lad grow up from a baby,, who his parents are, everytime i have seen him in public and who he is married to and her family. He isnt a bully.

So you knew about Andrew then?? Why didn't you tell anyone :nono:

[Niamh.]

https://i.imgur.com/lzKfN4N.jpg?1

[Marsh.]

:laugh2:

[Cherie]

https://i.imgur.com/lzKfN4N.jpg?1

:joker:

one bonus its kept TiBB buzzing

and for those that moan about Andrew getting an easy ride, the TiBB thread attracted

19 replies :hmph: and whose fault is that :nono:

[Marsh.]

Not really much debate to pedo = bad IMO. :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you knew about Andrew then?? Why didn't you tell anyone :nono:

His sweat disability meant that i could not for fear of being disabilityist:nono:

also he is a war veteran

[Marsh.]

also he is a war veteran

The time he spent serving in the Duchess of York!

[user104658]

19 replies :hmph: and whose fault is that :nono:

Meghan's probably?

[user104658]

His sweat disability meant that i could not for fear of being disabilityist:nono:

also he is a war veteran

Is being a war veteran a paedo pass? :think:

[Niamh.]

Meghan's probably?

Meghan is the new Jim

[Marsh.]

Is being a war veteran a paedo pass? :think:

The PTSD made him touch the girl yer honour!

[user104658]

The PTSD made him touch the girl yer honour!

Touch her with his sweaty bone-dry hands.

[Crimson Dynamo]

me looking askance at TS


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2020/01/11/TELEMMGLPICT000220907929_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhHH3eKU fKG_rOR2-vvbe8QYXnobqeg0DH7LgY9-XND4.jpeg?imwidth=500

[Cherie]

Joint statement issued by Harry and Wills saying they are deeply unhappy with the inflammatory language and the suggestion of bullying

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-prince-william-harry-issue-21270337

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joint statement issued by Harry and Wills saying they are deeply unhappy with the inflammatory language and the suggestion of bullying

wait are they reading TIBB?? :omgno:

[Cherie]

wait are they reading TIBB?? :omgno:

yes deeply unhappy with TiBB

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/breaking-prince-william-harry-issue-21270337

[Liam-]

Are they saying, that the media, are making things up? :omgno:

[jet]

Your "knowledge" consists of pretending you know them as people behind closed doors, have any idea of their marriage, assumed you know her more than Harry, that your more intelligent than Harry for knowing this woman more than him despite having never met his wife and mother of his child and judged her based on tabloid stories about her first marriage and subsequent divorce. Ridiculous.

You really are all over the place when it comes to your conclusions. :laugh:
I guess you think research into informed sources is useless then, and for goodness sake don't post your conclusions on a forum because some won't be able to stomach it and respond with a lot of hyperbole and senseless drivel like you have just done.
Make sure you tell any children you know not to take time trying to learn the truth about anyone or anything because you believe its a horrible thing to assume you have learned anything about anyone. Tell them to stick to the drivel on twitter and social media, keep their minds closed and go and troll some forums.

[arista]

Yes Meghan Loves her Instagram
but only wants fluffy answers


She needs a break from the Internet

[arista]

me looking askance at TS


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2020/01/11/TELEMMGLPICT000220907929_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhHH3eKU fKG_rOR2-vvbe8QYXnobqeg0DH7LgY9-XND4.jpeg?imwidth=500


Yes Great Photo
shows her Pushing Harry.


She made him talk to the CEO of Disney
to get her Voiceover contract set up.

[Marsh.]

You really are all over the place when it comes to your conclusions. :laugh:
I guess you think research into informed sources is useless then, and for goodness sake don't post your conclusions on a forum because some won't be able to stomach it and respond with a lot of hyperbole and senseless drivel like you have just done.
Make sure you tell any children you know not to take time trying to learn the truth about anyone or anything because you believe its a horrible thing to assume you have learned anything about anyone. Tell them to stick to the drivel on twitter and social media, keep their minds closed and go and troll some forums.

Considering your apparent informed research is "watching her lie on TV" and "whisper into Harry's ears" it's really not something worth listening to.

Yes, I'll tell kids it's perfectly normal to pretend to know someone you've never met and know more about a marriage than the person actually living in that marriage. :thumbs:

Not sure what the social media drivel is about, I don't use it. Poor attempt at baiting there.

[Cherie]

[QUOTE=LeatherTrumpet;10754346]me looking askance at TS


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/royal-family/2020/01/11/TELEMMGLPICT000220907929_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqhHH3eKU fKG_rOR2-vvbe8QYXnobqeg0DH7LgY9-XND4.jpeg?imwidth=500[/QUOTE


Yes Great Photo
shows her Pushing Harry.

:joker:

[arista]

[Prince William and Prince Harry
say 'potentially harmful'
newspaper story is false
The Reuters news agency has linked
the statement to a report in The Times
which claims Prince William had
a "bullying attitude".]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-william-and-prince-harry-say-potentially-harmful-newspaper-story-is-false-11907726

[arista]

[Prince William and Prince Harry
say 'potentially harmful'
newspaper story is false
The Reuters news agency has linked
the statement to a report in The Times
which claims Prince William had
a "bullying attitude".]

https://news.sky.com/story/prince-william-and-prince-harry-say-potentially-harmful-newspaper-story-is-false-11907726

[Zizu]

To be fair that's the direct line of succession (Queen - Charlie - William - George 'cept the world will have boiled by then) and Harry is nowhere near that these days, especially as it was changed to be gender inclusive so all of Williams sprogs are on the list before Harry.



That photo is being cited as ‘the’ moment Harry felt that he was being pushed to the side


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[jet]

Considering your apparent informed research is "watching her lie on TV" and "whisper into Harry's ears" it's really not something worth listening to.

Yes, I'll tell kids it's perfectly normal to pretend to know someone you've never met and know more about a marriage than the person actually living in that marriage. :thumbs:

Not sure what the social media drivel is about, I don't use it. Poor attempt at baiting there.

You pick out 2 things I have said to disparage and disregard all the rest, which is a sign of what you do when reading about Meghan. You close your eyes and ears and hear what you want to. Then you sneer at those who actually have had a long time interest in the royals and know which sources are reliable. You pick pick pick for the sake of it. Really, that attitude is the same old forum BS that's just worthless drivel, said to cause bad feeling and a bad atmosphere, but its your bread and butter on here. My convo with you ends here for good, you aren't worth any more of my time.

[AnnieK]

That photo is being cited as ‘the’ moment Harry felt that he was being pushed to the side


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I don't know why considering its the 3rd one that has been done since George was born....just showing the present succession line. Sure Harry hasn't just realised that barring a major calamity he was never going to be king

[Zizu]

I don't know why considering its the 3rd one that has been done since George was born....just showing the present succession line. Sure Harry hasn't just realised that barring a major calamity he was never going to be king



Maybe he’s still thinking about the way the family MIS-treated Di and now similar things have happened to his wife ..


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[Marsh.]

You pick out 2 things I have said to disparage and disregard all the rest, which is a sign of what you do when reading about Meghan. You close your eyes and ears and hear what you want to. Then you sneer at those who actually have had a long time interest in the royals and know which sources are reliable. You pick pick pick for the sake of it. Really, that attitude is the same old forum BS that's just worthless drivel, said to cause bad feeling and a bad atmosphere, but its your bread and butter on here. My convo with you ends here for good, you aren't worth any more of my time.

That's not how I "read" about Meghan. I no longer waste my time reading the guff you clearly treat like a bible.

As for the rest of this worthless post, illustrating how lost you really are. Attack me rather than defend your position, which is apparently deeply researched. Very sad.

Your opinion means nothing. Off you pop.

[Marsh.]

That photo is being cited as ‘the’ moment Harry felt that he was being pushed to the side


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:joker:

[Kizzy]

But what of these people who know what they're talking about because they've done 'research'?
If that info is wrong then what?..

Let them go I say, whats the big deal? Loads of royals have stepped back Look at poor Margaret she was effectively sacked! And Edward? Remember him? ..Why are they so desperate to keep Harry?

[Marsh.]

But what of these people who know what they're talking about because they've done 'research'?
If that info is wrong then what?..

Wrong? Ludicrous!!

[The Slim Reaper]

Everyone: Morning guys, did you have a good weekend?

Jet: You've just proved my point.

[Crimson Dynamo]

But what of these people who know what they're talking about because they've done 'research'?
If that info is wrong then what?..

Let them go I say, whats the big deal? Loads of royals have stepped back Look at poor Margaret she was effectively sacked! And Edward? Remember him? ..Why are they so desperate to keep Harry?

i forgot about Edward and was it Sophie?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Everyone: Morning guys, did you have a good weekend?

Jet: You've just proved my point.

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif

[The Slim Reaper]

So you're admitting that there are pics of trump shooting puppies? You've just proved my point :smug:

[jet]

But what of these people who know what they're talking about because they've done 'research'?
If that info is wrong then what?..

Let them go I say, whats the big deal? Loads of royals have stepped back Look at poor Margaret she was effectively sacked! And Edward? Remember him? ..Why are they so desperate to keep Harry?

Nobody can know the whole truth Kizzy, we can only go by seeking out what reliable writers and columnists, like official royal biograghers and commentators with Palace sources pass on to us. I have found that more often than not, given the passage of time, that what they report turns out to be absolutely true in the end.

I don't think anyone here has said they don't want them to go....or most of the public either, its the way they have gone about it that is the problem - and indeed the problem has always been the way they go about some things....it is like they deliberately what to get peoples backs up. :huh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So you're admitting that there are pics of trump shooting puppies? You've just proved my point :smug:

one or 2


:whistle:

[Crimson Dynamo]

PIERS MORGAN: Meghan and Harry haven’t been criticized because of
her colour but because she’s a selfish social climber and he’s a weak whiner -
and by playing this despicable race card they have grossly libeled all of Britain

It’s all down to racism.

And sexism.

And bullying.

And, of course, damaging to their mental health.

Yes, poor downtrodden vulnerable innocent Meghan and Harry
have been suffering the full gamut of victimhood issues, as befits
the most woke, over-sensitive, woe-is-me couple in the world.

That’s why they want to get off the royal train, we’re told.

Except they don’t want to get off it at all.

They just want to get off the boring bits.

They still want to be royal stars, they still want British taxpayers to fund a lot
of their luxury lifestyles, and they still want to parade around the world as
global celebrities trading off their royal titles.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7881661/PIERS-MORGAN-playing-despicable-race-card-Meghan-Harry-libeled-Britain.html?login#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

[Liam-]

Piers Morgan is an insufferable ball of anger who only hates Meghan cause she stopped taking his calls, he seethes whenever he talks about her, poor fragile soul caught in a cos tang cycle of outrage and hypocrisy, if he wasn’t so awful to and about people on a daily basis, I’d almost feel sorry for him

[Nicky91]

:skull: wow Piers is the last one who should Judge about 1) calling others selfish since he's himself a self-absorbed media lover, 2) calling harry a ''weak whiner'' well he himself whines all the time

[jet]

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif

:joker:

[jet]

Everyone: Morning guys, did you have a good weekend?

Jet: You've just proved my point.

:fist:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:skull: wow Piers is the last one who should Judge about 1) calling others selfish since he's himself a self-absorbed media lover, 2) calling harry a ''weak whiner'' well he himself whines all the time

What is a media lover?

[Kazanne]

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif

:joker::joker::joker:

[Cherie]

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif

:joker:

[GoldHeart]

Piers Morgan is an insufferable ball of anger who only hates Meghan cause she stopped taking his calls, he seethes whenever he talks about her, poor fragile soul caught in a cos tang cycle of outrage and hypocrisy, if he wasn’t so awful to and about people on a daily basis, I’d almost feel sorry for him

Exactly !
Remember when Meghan was about to marry Harry ,how much piers was gushing over her and he even defended Meghan when someone seemed concerned for her joining the royal family.

Piers use to praise Meghan to the point where he looked like a pathetic slime ball trying to get in her phone book & social life :bored: . He'd say cringe like " oh I preferred suits when Meghan was still in it" .

Now he hates her , he's definitely a hypocritical piece of garbage. He shouts & rants , he's a self important media troll .

Some of his debates on TV are embarrassing the way he behaves like a petulant idiot with a big mouth :facepalm: .

[Elliot]

Can we stop taking Piers Morgan seriously? Please?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Exactly !
Remember when Meghan was about to marry Harry ,how much piers was gushing over her and he even defended Meghan when someone seemed concerned for her joining the royal family.

Piers use to praise Meghan to the point where he looked like a pathetic slime ball trying to get in her phone book & social life :bored: . He'd say cringe like " oh I preferred suits when Meghan was still in it" .

Now he hates her , he's definitely a hypocritical piece of garbage. He shouts & rants , he's a self important media troll .

Some of his debates on TV are embarrassing the way he behaves like a petulant idiot with a big mouth :facepalm: .

you seem to be suggesting that a person cant change their mind about someone based on the way they act and behave?

Surely I have got this wrong?

[Liam-]

Piers doesn’t debate, he spends his time shouting over people that disagree with him, he only ever lets people speak if they’re on the same wave length as him, he can’t stand people thinking differently from him and if they do, he does everything in his power to stop them from airing their opinions, he’s an odious creature

[Tom4784]

PIERS MORGAN: Meghan and Harry haven’t been criticized because of
her colour but because she’s a selfish social climber and he’s a weak whiner -
and by playing this despicable race card they have grossly libeled all of Britain

It’s all down to racism.

And sexism.

And bullying.

And, of course, damaging to their mental health.

Yes, poor downtrodden vulnerable innocent Meghan and Harry
have been suffering the full gamut of victimhood issues, as befits
the most woke, over-sensitive, woe-is-me couple in the world.

That’s why they want to get off the royal train, we’re told.

Except they don’t want to get off it at all.

They just want to get off the boring bits.

They still want to be royal stars, they still want British taxpayers to fund a lot
of their luxury lifestyles, and they still want to parade around the world as
global celebrities trading off their royal titles.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7881661/PIERS-MORGAN-playing-despicable-race-card-Meghan-Harry-libeled-Britain.html?login#readerCommentsCommand-message-field

OK boomer.

[Elliot]

Piers doesn’t even really have opinions he just says and does stuff to be controversial. It’s so contrived and boring and I wish he’d fook right off for good

[Twosugars]

I blame Corbyn:idc:

[Kizzy]

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif
Actually there are more clouds around due to the tories ... rainclouds of DOOM!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Actually there are more clouds around due to the tories ... rainclouds of DOOM!!

:hehe:

[Marsh.]

:joker:


Kaz: Good morning:wavey:

Marsh: How do you know its good, its not good for everyone, DO YOU speak for everyone??

LT: There are some POC clouds around

Kizzy: There are a lot less clouds these days coz of austerity and the TORIES


Slim: (posts a tweet of Trump shooting puppies)

Neem: https://media2.giphy.com/media/AhAysobj49aqQ/source.gif

LT: What's the difference between morning and night?

TiBB: Isn't it obvious?

LT: Well yes it is now I've googled but why pretend you know yourself?

[user104658]

Piers doesn’t even really have opinions he just says and does stuff to be controversial. It’s so contrived and boring and I wish he’d fook right off for good

Indeed, he's an outrage-populist because that's the media niche he's carved out for himself now... it's his bread'n'butter.

It's not very dignified but oh well... he's in it now so he might as well ride the wave while he saves up for retirement.

[arista]

Can we stop taking Piers Morgan seriously? Please?


He was OK on GMBHD itv
this morning


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[Crimson Dynamo]

he is a much loved popular and successful broadcaster

[arista]

he is a much loved popular and successful broadcaster


Yes


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/216299334/1571055113/1080x360

[user104658]

Indeed, he's an outrage-populist because that's the media niche he's carved out for himself now... it's his bread'n'butter.

It's not very dignified but oh well... he's in it now so he might as well ride the wave while he saves up for retirement.

he is a much loved popular and successful broadcaster

Yes LT that's what I just said :hee:. I also commented that how he got there and stays there isn't my cup of tea (pandering to the petty outrage of daytime sofa-hams) but I wasn't denying his success, I was in fact pointing out why he keeps plodding on with it. I hope that was clear :worry:.

[arista]

Indeed, he's an outrage-populist because that's the media niche he's carved out for himself now... it's his bread'n'butter.

It's not very dignified but oh well... he's in it now so he might as well ride the wave while he saves up for retirement.



Thats 10 years away
Long time.

[user104658]

"Grossly libelled all of Bwitain" :joker:

https://media2.giphy.com/media/LTpmRMNSmZgIw/giphy.gif

[user104658]

Thats 10 years away
Long time.

yes plenty of time

to save up

his chav anger pennies

buy an island

retire there

get blowjobs

From Tommy Robinson

Younger man.

[bots]

At the end of the day, there are faults on all sides. The royal institution is a monolith that needs updating. The media could have been more friendly and those that support Harry and Meghan could have been more vocal in support and drowned out the trolls. However, Harry and Meghan have exploited the situation to further their own agenda which is to be more private while still picking up the perks. They have upset the queen, if she or big Phil die this year, they will get the blame for it. Harry and Meghan will be known as queen killers, and lets face it, at the queens age, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility.

H & M want to progress their charity venture, and that has zero chance of success if they behave like spoilt brats, the public won't fund a couple of self entitled free loaders who disrespected them and their queen ... and thats a fact.

[arista]

yes plenty of time

to save up

his chav anger pennies

buy an island

retire there

get blowjobs

From Tommy Robinson

Younger man.

He hates Tommy
you are of the scale


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOKaOzvX4AETU5H?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

At the end of the day, there are faults on all sides. The royal institution is a monolith that needs updating. The media could have been more friendly and those that support Harry and Meghan could have been more vocal in support and drowned out the trolls. However, Harry and Meghan have exploited the situation to further their own agenda which is to be more private while still picking up the perks. They have upset the queen, if she or big Phil die this year, they will get the blame for it. Harry and Meghan will be known as queen killers, and lets face it, at the queens age, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility.

H & M want to progress their charity venture, and that has zero chance of success if they behave like spoilt brats, the public won't fund a couple of self entitled free loaders who disrespected them and their queen ... and thats a fact.


She has not said that.

[user104658]

At the end of the day, there are faults on all sides. The royal institution is a monolith that needs updating. The media could have been more friendly

A slight understatement? Not just in this situation of course, the UK tabloids are on a globally unparalleled level of toxic trash.

H & M want to progress their charity venture, and that has zero chance of success if they behave like spoilt brats, the public won't fund a couple of self entitled free loaders who disrespected them and their queen ... and thats a fact.

Most of the Royal income is from their despicable private wealth and land ownership, not tax-funded, but yes I understand that Ficko Britto doesn't necessarily understand that so maybe their misplaced anger makes more sense with that in mind?

[Tom4784]

It always funny when a white person tries to deny racism and tell the person in question that they aren't suffering racism like they could ever know.

We, as white people, will never know what systematic and societal racism feels like. That is simply a fact, we live in a solemnity where white people don't have to worry about issues of race like people of other races do. That's the long and short of it, you can cry and moan about how the discussion of racism upsets you more than an act of it but it's just hot air. We simply don't ever have to worry about being victims of racism like people of colour are.

[user104658]

He hates Tommy
you are of the scale


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOKaOzvX4AETU5H?format=jpg&name=small

Yes that's why Tommy is sucking him off and not vice versa. That's the irony. The twats he appeals to and who hang on his every spurt of Twitter fist-pounding are the same ones that "man of the people" Piers Morgan would cross the street to avoid :joker:.

[arista]

A Example of the 2
on a Veggie Mind function, off topic.

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[Kizzy]

A slight understatement? Not just in this situation of course, the UK tabloids are on a globally unparalleled level of toxic trash.



Most of the Royal income is from their despicable private wealth and land ownership, not tax-funded, but yes I understand that Ficko Britto doesn't necessarily understand that so maybe their misplaced anger makes more sense with that in mind?

Land ownership?.. hmm .
Did they buy it or inherit it? Was that land originally confiscated for non payment of tithes?

Ficko Scotto needs more history lessons.

[Twosugars]

Morgan calling Harry weak whine is a bit like trump criticising john McCain for not being brave enough

It's amazing such arseholes can make a career. Just says it that large swathes of public opinion just want their prejudices confirmed and any arse trumpet will do

[Twosugars]

Land ownership?.. hmm .
Did they buy it or inherit it? Was that land originally confiscated for non payment of tithes?

Ficko Scotto needs more history lessons.

Inherit. The queen owns the dutchy of Lancaster and Charles the duchy of cornwall

[Kizzy]

Inherit. The queen owns the dutchy of Lancaster and Charles the duchy of cornwall

So he didn't earn it or buy it it was land taken by the crown from taxpayers ( now known as thicko britto ) in the days of yore.

[Tom4784]

Morgan calling Harry weak whine is a bit like trump criticising john McCain for not being brave enough

It's amazing such arseholes can make a career. Just says it that large swathes of public opinion just want their prejudices confirmed and any arse trumpet will do

Yes, Piers will pretty much fawn over the military when it suits him but he'll describe Harry as a weak whiner, just like what Trump said to McCain.

[Kizzy]

Yes, Piers will pretty much fawn over the military when it suits him but he'll describe Harry as a weak whiner, just like what Trump said to McCain.

Is that the military that was/wasn't / was torturing people on the front page of the mirror when he was editor?

[Twosugars]

So he didn't earn it or buy it it was land taken by the crown from taxpayers ( now known as thicko britto ) in the days of yore.

Correctomundo


Both go back to feudal times in the middle ages

[Tom4784]

Is that the military that was/wasn't / was torturing people on the front page of the mirror when he was editor?


Yup, which makes his hypocrisy even worse. His fawning is shallow and for clicks only because he's certainly pushed lies about soldiers and criticised them in the past.

Any way the wind blows, that's the way that Piers goes.

[bots]

The Duke of Westminster owns half of London so his wealth exceeds most of the major royal family members - his estimated wealth is £10 billion. We don't hear much about him and he is younger than the princes

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Tom4784]

Can we stop posting clips of that red faced twatbag?

[arista]

Can we stop posting clips of that red faced twatbag?


Hang on Dezzy
you can agree with that Scottish Women
that clip is ideal for you

[Tom4784]

I will not give that hypocrite any views. Piers Morgan is the champion of people with short attention spans who can't see how he switches his views to suit his audience.

[LukeB]

Piers Morgan is really obsessed with Meghan Markle and it doesn't look healthy :skull:

[arista]

I will not give that hypocrite any views. Piers Morgan is the champion of people with short attention spans who can't see how he switches his views to suit his audience.


Fair Enough.

[arista]

Piers Morgan is really obsessed with Meghan Markle and it doesn't look healthy :skull:


Yes he knows her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Piers Morgan is really obsessed with Meghan Markle and it doesn't look healthy :skull:

:joker:

he hosts a morning news programme. every news media is covering this story endlessly

Its just that Piers is brave enough to speak on behalf of the Great British Public unlike the weasel BBC Dan on the otherside who smirks but never passes any comment

https://cdn.entertainmentdaily.com/2017/09/27102042/bbc-breakfast-2.jpg

[Zizu]

:joker:



:joker:


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Marsh.]

:joker:


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Oh dear we are sensitive.

I was laughing at the comment assigned to the image, not you.

[Marsh.]

:joker:

he hosts a morning news programme. every news media is covering this story endlessly

Its just that Piers is brave enough to speak on behalf of the Great British Public unlike the weasel BBC Dan on the otherside who smirks but never passes any comment

https://cdn.entertainmentdaily.com/2017/09/27102042/bbc-breakfast-2.jpg

No. Susannah "covers the story". Piers gets red faced and irate about it. Not healthy.

[Cherie]

Has Harry escaped Sandringham yet

[Marsh.]

Yes he knows her.

He really does not. That's why he's the way he is, had his nose pushed out after he believed he was in their celebrity friend circle and they told him in no uncertain terms he was not.

[Liam-]

He’s definitely the type to call a woman an ugly lesbian if they rejected him

[Niamh.]

I heard a conspiracy theory that all this is a ploy masterminded by the Queen to take focus off the fact that Andrew is a pedophile :skull: (tbf she's a genius if it's true because it's working a treat)

[arista]

He really does not. That's why he's the way he is, had his nose pushed out after he believed he was in their celebrity friend circle and they told him in no uncertain terms he was not.

He was on her Social list
they met in California.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He’s definitely the type to call a woman an ugly lesbian if they rejected him

what a thoroughly unpleasant post

[arista]

I heard a conspiracy theory that all this is a ploy masterminded by the Queen to take focus off the fact that Andrew is a pedophile :skull: (tbf she's a genius if it's true because it's working a treat)


No as I think they are still going
on about Randy Andy


Its just Harry is now Top of the Queens list
this week.

[GoldHeart]

I will not give that hypocrite any views. Piers Morgan is the champion of people with short attention spans who can't see how he switches his views to suit his audience.

The clips are unbearable :facepalm: ,this is why I never watch him. He shouts over people like he's on drugs .

He's a horrible disgusting self entitled pig that loves his own voice . People try to get their points across and he cuts them off & drowns them out.

Utterly pointless & unprofessional, I've no idea why anyone bothers to go on the show to "debate" :bored: .
I'd walk off if I had to face his obnoxious face & attitude.

[Liam-]

what a thoroughly unpleasant post

I know he’s a horrid man isn’t he

[Twosugars]

Buckingham Palace has just released the following statement from the Queen:

Today my family had very constructive discussions on the future of my grandson and his family.

My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family.

Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives.

It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the UK.

These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2020/jan/13/prince-harry-meghan-royal-family-queen-duke-duchess-sussex-william

[Crimson Dynamo]

she said through gritted teeth :joker:

[Cherie]

Buckingham Palace has just released the following statement from the Queen:


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2020/jan/13/prince-harry-meghan-royal-family-queen-duke-duchess-sussex-william

Perfect, if this had been announced first, we could have avoided the majority of the storm but hey ho

[Liam-]

Lizzie is a lovely lady, but it’s always bothered me that she speaks about her kids and grandkids like a boss rather than a grandmother, but that statement was a nice one

[Marsh.]

Lizzie is a lovely lady, but it’s always bothered me that she speaks about her kids and grandkids like a boss rather than a grandmother, but that statement was a nice one

She's still head of the Firm.

And whilst she is she has to order a hit on Meghan rule with an iron fist!

[Cherie]

I don’t think we will ever see her like again sadly

[Marsh.]

I don’t think we will ever see her like again sadly

Well, no, Charles and William will never pull off one of her hats.

[jet]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17352/production/_110485059_dm_13jan.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/BC1E/production/_110485184_mirror-front-corrected.jpg

Tom Bradby, a friend of the couple, said "the results would not be pretty".
Meghan blackmailing the Queen to get her own way now. How low can she get?

[Crimson Dynamo]

She's still head of the Firm.

And whilst she is she has to order a hit on Meghan rule with an iron fist!

some one wrote on Twitter (that i dont think is nice)


"Lovely to see the Queen so upset about Meghans fatal car crash next month"


:oh:

[Marsh.]

Meghan blackmailing the Queen to get her own way now.

More fabrications.

[Marsh.]

some one wrote on Twitter (that i dont think is nice)


"Lovely to see the Queen so upset about Meghans fatal car crash next month"


:oh:

:joker:

[Liam-]

I don’t think we will ever see her like again sadly

It makes me sad that I’ll never have another queen in my lifetime

[Marsh.]

It makes me sad that I’ll never have another queen in my lifetime

https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2019/08/18681191-high--13ef02e.jpg?quality=45&crop=3px,317px,2845px,1895px&resize=620,413

[Liam-]

https://images.immediate.co.uk/production/volatile/sites/3/2019/08/18681191-high--13ef02e.jpg?quality=45&crop=3px,317px,2845px,1895px&resize=620,413

Not on my watch!

[jet]

Fiona Mcilwham, Harry and Meghans new private secretary and a highly experienced diplomat, last week joked "I was offered the Iran desk (at the FCO). That might have been easier.

The Times. :dog:

[arista]

The Queen has now agreed
a Transition
of them in Canada and UK.

[Cherie]

Well, no, Charles and William will never pull off one of her hats.

:joker:

It makes me sad that I’ll never have another queen in my lifetime

There is that, Kings for the foreseeable :sad:

[Marsh.]

The Queen has now agreed
a Transition
of them in Canada and UK.

Word is that she only agreed after Meghan taunted her about how she'll be dead soon.

[Twosugars]

Fiona Mcilwham, Harry and Meghans new private secretary and a highly experienced diplomat, last week joked "I was offered the Iran desk (at the FCO). That might have been easier.

The Times. :dog:

Yeah blame it on them :rolleyes:

The fact is the Queen wants to keep things as they are. Charles is said to intend a serious reform and downsizing. But nobody mentions that.
They all need more freedom and independence. Times have changed.

[arista]

[Harry and Meghan: Queen 'supportive'
of Sussexes after 'constructive' talks]

[The Queen says she has had
"constructive" talks with other
senior royals on the future of
Prince Harry and Meghan and
will allow the couple to spend
time in Canada and the
UK during a "period of transition".

The final decision on how
the couple will organise
their time and finances will
be made in the coming days,
the monarch said in a
statement released
by Buckingham Palace.]

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-royals-supportive-of-sussexes-after-constructive-talks-11908009

[jet]

Yeah blame it on them :rolleyes:

The fact is the Queen wants to keep things as they are. Charles is said to intend a serious reform and downsizing. But nobody mentions that.
They all need more freedom and independence. Times have changed.

I agree, free them now. Goodbye Harry and Meghan, Godspeed. :wavey:

[Twosugars]

[Harry and Meghan: Queen 'supportive'
of Sussexes after 'constructive' talks]

[The Queen says she has had
"constructive" talks with other
senior royals on the future of
Prince Harry and Meghan and
will allow the couple to spend
time in Canada and the
+UK during a "period of transition".

The final decision on how
the couple will organise
their time and finances will
be made in the coming days,
the monarch said in a
statement released
by Buckingham Palace.]

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-royals-supportive-of-sussexes-after-constructive-talks-11908009

Old news. Posted the statement aaaaaaaages ago :smug:

[Twosugars]

I agree, free them now. Goodbye Harry and Meghan, Godspeed. :wavey:

After Diana I would have thought we've all seen enough of unhappy royal wifes to last us all for a lifetime

[Kazanne]

Also reported is they want to make their home in LA but Megan wants to wait until Trump is no longer in power.This coming from The Sun though,so take it with a pinch of salt.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10724543/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-want-to-eventually-settle-in-la-but-only-once-trumps-presidency-ends-pals-say/ '

[Crimson Dynamo]

Also reported is they want to make their home in LA but Megan wants to wait until Trump is no longer in power.This coming from The Sun though,so take it with a pinch of salt.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10724543/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-want-to-eventually-settle-in-la-but-only-once-trumps-presidency-ends-pals-say/ '

the sooner these two go the better, just awful

[smudgie]

Hopefully they can sort it all out with a happy outcome for all.

[Liam-]

Also reported is they want to make their home in LA but Megan wants to wait until Trump is no longer in power.This coming from The Sun though,so take it with a pinch of salt.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10724543/meghan-markle-and-prince-harry-want-to-eventually-settle-in-la-but-only-once-trumps-presidency-ends-pals-say/ '

She just gets better and better :flutter:

[thesheriff443]

Rumour has it the queen wore a hat made of bananas to the meeting on advice from Prince Philip.

[Zizu]

Oh dear we are sensitive.



I was laughing at the comment assigned to the image, not you.



In that case my apologies.. we have had a few issues but I’m prepared to start again if you like ..


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[Zizu]

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You beat me to it :)


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[user104658]

[Harry and Meghan: Queen 'supportive'
of Sussexes after 'constructive' talks]

[The Queen says she has had
"constructive" talks with other
senior royals on the future of
Prince Harry and Meghan and
will allow the couple to spend
time in Canada and the
UK during a "period of transition".

The final decision on how
the couple will organise
their time and finances will
be made in the coming days,
the monarch said in a
statement released
by Buckingham Palace.]

https://news.sky.com/story/harry-and-meghan-royals-supportive-of-sussexes-after-constructive-talks-11908009BREAKING NEWS SHOCK

Turns out 93 year old lady cares more about the wellbeing of her grandson than the whims of toxic tabloid press and bored chavs.

I for one am gobsmacked.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BREAKING NEWS SHOCK

Turns out 93 year old lady cares more about the wellbeing of her grandson than the whims of toxic tabloid press and bored chavs.

I for one am gobsmacked.

TS the Royalist

:flutter:

https://i.imgur.com/kzXV6XL.gif

[user104658]

TS the Royalist



:flutter:



https://i.imgur.com/kzXV6XL.gifI have nothing against the family and am happy for them each and every time they put their real-life relationships ahead of all of the "tradition and ceremony" pish. I wish all of them did it, and far more often.

[Twosugars]

James Glancy, a former captain in the Special Boat Service who was elected last year as a Brexit party MEP, told the Daily Telegraph that other Royal Marines were “very upset, if not disgusted by the disrespect to the Queen” by the couple not discussing their plans with her before making announcements.

“If Harry goes down this route of semi-privatising his role I wouldn’t raise a toast to him as he wouldn’t have my respect,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/13/charities-defend-harry-meghan-decision-royal


Brexit Britain:skull:

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

James Glancy, a former captain in the Special Boat Service who was elected last year as a Brexit party MEP, told the Daily Telegraph that other Royal Marines were “very upset, if not disgusted by the disrespect to the Queen” by the couple not discussing their plans with her before making announcements.

“If Harry goes down this route of semi-privatising his role I wouldn’t raise a toast to him as he wouldn’t have my respect,” he said.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/13/charities-defend-harry-meghan-decision-royal


Brexit Britain:skull:

Posting that again and again means nothing

[arista]

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https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/23EF/production/_110499190_ec5bfe1c-704d-4227-8b4c-2c1026c20837.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/4AFF/production/_110499191_34de1eaa-19ad-4ade-a622-95d5e2d51123.jpg

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/720F/production/_110499192_97d0aa5d-98bf-463f-aca6-9b6edd766d92.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12623/production/_110499257_metrop1jan14.jpg

[user104658]

Look at the gutter rag Sun and Mail trying to make out she's angry and bitter about it :idc:. They claim to love and support the Royal Family and yet deliberately twist and misrepresent the Queen's words and sentiments to pander to their readers, who they know are only interested in lapping up nastiness and toxicity. SAD.

[Parmy]

The queen has spoken..

Let that be an end to it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The queen has spoken..

Let that be an end to it.

:wavey:

Yes she mentioned family 8 times in her statement, maybe to drum into Harrys ears that he should not forget his own family as he sets off making another?

[user104658]

:wavey:

Yes she mentioned family 8 times in her statement, maybe to drum into Harrys ears that he should not forget his own family as he sets off making another?

Or to remind the country that they are a family first, and a commodity for the public second. Maybe. I hope.

[Marsh.]

:wavey:

Yes she mentioned family 8 times in her statement, maybe to drum into Harrys ears that he should not forget his own family as he sets off making another?

Grown man leaves family to make his own life shocker.

[Parmy]

Grown man leaves family to make his own life shocker.

He's leaving a whole nation as well as his family.

[Marsh.]

He's leaving a whole nation as well as his family.

Eh? The nation need him? For what exactly?

[Parmy]

Eh? The nation need him? For what exactly?

Many things..