Prince Harry and Meghan have stepped back as Senior Members of the royal family

[rusticgal]

Voicing a character in a film is acting.


....but like I said you don’t have to be an acclaimed actress to do it...that was my point :shrug:

[LukeB]

It’s not an acting role...it’s a voice over. Alison Hammond has done it for a Disney movie :laugh:

It's still acting:shrug: you don't just read lines you gotta do more than that.

Nancy Cartwright is a well known voice over and is still classed as an actress.

[rusticgal]

It's still acting:shrug: you don't just read lines you gotta do more than that.

Nancy Cartwright is a well known voice over and is still classed as an actress.


...well Alison Hammond isn’t.

[LukeB]

...well Alison Hammond isn’t.

because she's more known for being a television personality but i would still class her as an actress because she has done acting work.

[Twosugars]

It really bothers me that people relate any of their decisions to the loss of their mum, especially in their relationships. My dad died when I was young and it doesn't define anything about me.

His mum was hounded and now his wife is hounded.

[Kizzy]

In always happens in first few years of the royal marriages when the spotlight and interest is at its peak. The press were vicious with Fergie and Kate, and Diana didn't get it easy either. None of them in those first few years deserved it.
Harry and Meghan seem to have gone out of their way to make the press dislike them. I've heard so many reporters say how they loved Harry who they always had a laugh with and he even went to the pub with them on numerous occasions. :hehe:
Now all they get is a scowl and sharp words.

So they should put up and shut up.. Who's to say it would get better with his mother it just got worse and worse? I can see why he would move heaven and earth to avoid that, he tolerated the press and he played a role of fun time harry for them. He is not that man anymore.
You can't trust a hack looking for a scoop to be sympathetic as much as you can trust the bias media who are demonising his wife.

I appreciate his honesty.

[jet]

His mum was hounded and now his wife is hounded.

Diana was hounded by the paps wherever she went. It is ridiculous to say Meghan is hounded. When did you ever see a pic of Meghan going about her personal daily business and being harrassed by photographers? There is no comparison whatsoever.

[Marsh.]

....but like I said you don’t have to be an acclaimed actress to do it...that was my point :shrug:

Who said anything about "acclaimed" I just said she's an actress and god forbid she's interested in acting work. :rolleyes:

[LukeB]

Alison Hammond
Born 5 February 1975 (age 44)
Birmingham, England
Occupation Television personality, reporter, actress

confirmed Alison is an actress.

[jet]

So they should put up and shut up.. Who's to say it would get better with his mother it just got worse and worse? I can see why he would move heaven and earth to avoid that, he tolerated the press and he played a role of fun time harry for them. He is not that man anymore.
You can't trust a hack looking for a scoop to be sympathetic as much as you can trust the bias media who are demonising his wife.

I appreciate his honesty.

Diana got it worse later when the marriage broke down, she divorced and gave up her protection. It was a free for all with the press.
Why does he think it will all go away in a new country without the protection and loyalty of his family, his close friends, even certain members of the press who respected and protected him.
It won't, thats what I don't understand. He has better protection for his family right here and now. Maybe if they stopped reading online rubbish and tabloids and got on with their jobs they would earn respect and be happier.

[Kizzy]

Diana was hounded by the paps wherever she went. It is ridiculous to say Meghan is hounded. When did you ever see a pic of Meghan going about her personal daily business and being harrassed by photographers? There is no comparison whatsoever.

She was demonised for certain, they have that in common. Can you imagine if Diana had the press we have now? It would be all Diana is such a , PC, woke, libtard, sjw, snowflake, virtue signaller!!
Go Harry .Go to Canada, don't look back.

[Marsh.]

Meghan has been given a rough time by the press. Not really sure why "BUT DIANA GOT IT WORSE!!!" is a valid point.

Kind of like saying someone's assault doesn't matter because at least they weren't murdered.

Apples and oranges.

[Kizzy]

Why does he say in the vid ' if you knew what I know'.. what does he know?
It's enough to make him want out whatever it is. It's odd we profess to love our royals but one wrong move and the public and the media become WMD :/

[Marsh.]

Why does he say in the vid ' if you knew what I know'.. what does he know?

That's it, so many people judging them for what they think they know. Mind-reading Meghan. :idc:

[Twosugars]

I'm glad they're getting away from this toxicity and bigotry.

[Liam-]

Now that Lizzie has come out in full support of their decision, hopefully the likes of Piers Morgan can shut it and leave them alone now, I won’t hold my breath though

[rusticgal]

because she's more known for being a television personality but i would still class her as an actress because she has done acting work.


I cook at home...but it doesn’t make me a chef...
I took the controls of a light aircraft for a few minutes but it doesn’t make me a pilot...:laugh:

[AnnieK]

It doesn't really. William lost his mother too, thats like saying he doesn't care about protecting his family. Should William and Kate, who have 3 children run off to N. America too?
Should they all? :hee:

I lost my mum quickly.....thankfully nowhere near as young as these boys but I had an older sibling...who shouldered a lot of the responsibility.....I still struggle day to day with the loss of my mum, my brother doesn't outwardly....are you saying because William doesn't show it, he doesn't feel it? He has a different level of responsibility.....at times I would almost guarantee he and kate would have loved to leg it....he just doesn't have that luxury

[rusticgal]

Now that Lizzie has come out in full support of their decision, hopefully the likes of Piers Morgan can shut it and leave them alone now, I won’t hold my breath though

Of course she gave her blessing...she is his grandmother after all...but it doesn’t stop people having a different opinion. Why can’t people accept that..:shrug:

[Liam-]

Of course she gave her blessing...she is his grandmother after all...but it doesn’t stop people having a different opinion. Why can’t people accept that..:shrug:

Ah the typical ‘why can’t people accept other opinions?!’

Everyone accepts people think differently, you’re entitled to do so, crack on :laugh:

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[jet]

I lost my mum quickly.....thankfully nowhere near as young as these boys but I had an older sibling...who shouldered a lot of the responsibility.....I still struggle day to day with the loss of my mum, my brother doesn't outwardly....are you saying because William doesn't show it, he doesn't feel it? He has a different level of responsibility.....at times I would almost guarantee he and kate would have loved to leg it....he just doesn't have that luxury

Sorry about your Mum :hug:, I still struggle and I had mine for a long time.

No William doesn't have that luxury, unlike Harry and Meghan, and they are using it, leaving William and Kate with extra responsibilities and work that the Sussex's are resigning from.
They have handed in their notice in the business, got their p45's, taken off to be rivals in their new celeb business ventures and now the other royals will have to replace their roles by working harder. They can't advertise for a new prince and duchess. :hee:

[Twosugars]

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Not the paedo :facepalm:

[jet]

She was demonised for certain, they have that in common. Can you imagine if Diana had the press we have now? It would be all Diana is such a , PC, woke, libtard, sjw, snowflake, virtue signaller!!
Go Harry .Go to Canada, don't look back.

You can be a compassionate humanitarian, like Diana, without being any of those things. It's the way the PC, woke, virtue signalling brigade are so in your face and virtuous that is so off putting and is creating the opposite effect to whatever it is they think they are achieving. Diana was never preachy. :love:

[Kizzy]

You can be a compassionate humanitarian, like Diana, without being any of those things. It's the way the PC, woke, virtue signalling brigade are so in your face and virtuous that is so off putting and is creating the opposite effect to whatever it is they think they are achieving. Diana was never preachy. :love:

What is the difference...in all honesty what is the difference if you advocate for a cause by raising awareness, participate in the cause. Fund raise and support other causes or community projects as she did how is it not considered in your face and preachy in the way anyone doing that today would be?

[Marsh.]

You can be a compassionate humanitarian, like Diana, without being any of those things. It's the way the PC, woke, virtue signalling brigade are so in your face and virtuous that is so off putting and is creating the opposite effect to whatever it is they think they are achieving. Diana was never preachy. :love:

Those rose tinted specs are slipping down your nose.

[Marsh.]

Sorry about your Mum :hug:, I still struggle and I had mine for a long time.

No William doesn't have that luxury, unlike Harry and Meghan, and they are using it, leaving William and Kate with extra responsibilities and work that the Sussex's are resigning from.
They have handed in their notice in the business, got their p45's, taken off to be rivals in their new celeb business ventures and now the other royals will have to replace their roles by working harder. They can't advertise for a new prince and duchess. :hee:

Working harder? Oh no, whatever will Kate do with all those ribbons to cut. All those jets to catch. All those fancy clothes to wear. :worry:

[Glenn.]

No William doesn't have that luxury, unlike Harry and Meghan, and they are using it, leaving William and Kate with extra responsibilities and work that the Sussex's are resigning from.
They have handed in their notice in the business, got their p45's, taken off to be rivals in their new celeb business ventures and now the other royals will have to replace their roles by working harder. They can't advertise for a new prince and duchess. :hee:

Good on them!

[Mystic Mock]

Not the paedo :facepalm:

According to the Media Meghan and Harry are worse, didn't you know?:laugh:

[Ammi]

...the vibe of the media headlines since they announced their plans, must only confirm to them more and more that they’re doing the right thing...

[thesheriff443]

...the vibe of the media headlines since they announced their plans, must only confirm to them more and more that they’re doing the right thing...

Headlines are there to grab the viewers attention, pictures and bold writing.

From dating to to marrying to getting pregnant to falling out with palace the bust up with her father, not keeping with tradition and showing the baby off to the world not spending Christmas with his family not only stepping away from the royal family but taking a grand child and great grand to another country when Harry’s grandad is now virtually bed ridden.

Its been in the news because it is news.

[Ammi]

...of course, media headline slants and stories are there to grab and that grabbing is something that Harry wants no part of because he understands so clearly, the dangers of it...as he has said...

“My mom taught me a set of values of which I will always try and uphold despite our role and job. I will always protect my family, I have a family to protect. Everything she went through is incredibly real every single day and that’s not me being paranoid, that’s me not wanting a repeat of the past. If anybody else knew what I knew, be it a father or husband, you should probably do what I’m doing as well.”

...and I would think that every day just confirms to him and Meghan that they’ve made the right decision for themselves and their son...

[jet]

Working harder? Oh no, whatever will Kate do with all those ribbons to cut. All those jets to catch. All those fancy clothes to wear. :worry:

If that was all there was to being a working royal and mother, Meghan wouldn't have run off.

[Kizzy]

If that was all there was to being a working royal and mother, Meghan wouldn't have run off.

Again you blame Meghan for a decision Harry has made... He is the royal here not her.

[Niamh.]

The sense of ownership over actual real life human beings is so odd and creepy

[Ammi]

...just to add to your media stories, Arista...

Prince Harry has revealed he and Meghan felt they had "no other option" but to leave the Royal Family behind during a speech for his Sentebale charity.

The Duke of Sussex was speaking to supporters of the organisation at a dinner in London on Sunday, a day after Buckingham Palace issued a statement confirming the terms of the Sussexes' decision to step back as senior royals.

Harry told those gathered: "It brings me great sadness that it has come to this. The decision that I have made for my wife and I to step back is not one I made lightly.

"It was so many months of talks after so many years of challenges.

"And I know I haven't always gotten it right, but as far as this goes, there really was no other option.

"What I want to make clear is we're not walking away, and we certainly aren't walking away from you.

"Our hope was to continue serving the Queen, the commonwealth, and my military associations, but without public funding. Unfortunately, that wasn't possible.

"I've accepted this, knowing that it doesn't change who I am or how committed I am."

Harry added that he hopes "that helps you understand what it had come to, that I would step my family back from all I have ever known, to take a step forward into what I hope can be a more peaceful life".

He continued: "I was born into this life, and it is a great honour to serve my country and the Queen."

Harry, who set up the charity to honour the legacy of his mother's work in supporting those with HIV and AIDS, was speaking while Meghan is in Canada with their son Archie.

He told those gathered: "When I lost my mum 23 years ago, you took me under your wing. You've looked out for me for so long, but the media is a powerful force, and my hope is one day our collective support for each other can be more powerful because this is so much bigger than just us.

"It has been our privilege to serve you, and we will continue to lead a life of service.

"It has also been a privilege to meet so many of you, and to feel your excitement for our son Archie, who saw snow for the first time the other day and thought it was bloody brilliant!

"I will always have the utmost respect for my grandmother, my commander in chief, and I am incredibly grateful to her and the rest of my family, for the support they have shown Meghan and I over the last few months.

"I will continue to be the same man who holds his country dear and dedicates his life to supporting the causes, charities and military communities that are so important to me.

"Together, you have given me an education about living. And this role has taught me more about what is right and just than I could have ever imagined. We are taking a leap of faith - thank you for giving me the courage to take this next step."


...full story...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prince-harry-leaving-royal-role-no-other-option-220900357.html

[Ammi]

Again you blame Meghan for a decision Harry has made... He is the royal here not her.

...his wife is ‘blamed’..his mum was ‘blamed’, all to grab headlines and these are real people, in their royalty..isn’t that the point and what rules his emotions and his mental well being...

[Ammi]

...at least Meghan and Harry have taken the focus from Andrew atm, so he doesn’t need to sweat...oh wait...

[jet]

Headlines are there to grab the viewers attention, pictures and bold writing.

From dating to to marrying to getting pregnant to falling out with palace the bust up with her father, not keeping with tradition and showing the baby off to the world not spending Christmas with his family not only stepping away from the royal family but taking a grand child and great grand to another country when Harry’s grandad is now virtually bed ridden.

Its been in the news because it is news.

For people who don't want press attention, they seem to go out of their way to say 'look at us'! look at how we do things differently!
There was the silly secrecy around the baby's birth and christening; standing in poverty stricken Africa and whining about how awful their priveleged life is; the 'sensational' way they went about breaking the news of their leaving without informing the Queen, and much more besides like Meghan getting the riff raff cleared from her seating area at Wimbledon. If you don't want attention, you don't do things that will guarantee even more press interest and criticism.

[jet]

Again you blame Meghan for a decision Harry has made... He is the royal here not her.

I was responding to this which puts my post in context:

Working harder? Oh no, whatever will Kate do with all those ribbons to cut. All those jets to catch. All those fancy clothes to wear.

[jet]

The sense of ownership over actual real life human beings is so odd and creepy

TIBB was created all those years ago and season after season many did just that with the housemates. Are you just noticing now? :laugh:

[arista]

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[Marsh.]

If that was all there was to being a working royal and mother, Meghan wouldn't have run off.

Imagining things again.

Neither of them suggested the workload was too hard. :facepalm:

[Marsh.]

Piers clutching at straws this morning asking Gazza what he thought. :facepalm:

[Marsh.]

TIBB was created all those years ago and season after season many did just that with the housemates. Are you just noticing now? :laugh:

Discussing housemates =/= a sense of ownership. What a strange comparison.

[Niamh.]

...at least Meghan and Harry have taken the focus from Andrew atm, so he doesn’t need to sweat...oh wait...

:laugh2:

A more cynical person might say this was all planned just for that exact purpose............ how is this story over shadowing the fact that one of the royals is probably a pedophile/sexual offender? Crazy world we live in

[Niamh.]

TIBB was created all those years ago and season after season many did just that with the housemates. Are you just noticing now? :laugh:

Big Brother is a TV show where the Housemates go in knowing that they're entering a popularity contest, it isn't their actual "real life" it's a TV show. I'm sure I don't need to explain the difference between a Reality TV show and actual real life to you, you're an intelligent man.

[thesheriff443]

The sense of ownership over actual real life human beings is so odd and creepy

Who thinks they own them?

[thesheriff443]

Big Brother is a TV show where the Housemates go in knowing that they're entering a popularity contest, it isn't their actual "real life" it's a TV show. I'm sure I don't need to explain the difference between a Reality TV show and actual real life to you, you're an intelligent man.

The show had a big impact on some of their lives after the show and not all of it was positive.

[Niamh.]

Who thinks they own them?

The media, Piers Morgan to name a couple

[Niamh.]

The show had a big impact on some of their lives after the show and not all of it was positive.

I know?

[jet]

Big Brother is a TV show where the Housemates go in knowing that they're entering a popularity contest, it isn't their actual "real life" it's a TV show. I'm sure I don't need to explain the difference between a Reality TV show and actual real life to you, you're an intelligent man.

I don't really agree with this, apart from the intelligent man compliment. :hehe:
The HM's aren't actors, so their personalities are soon revealed....and it IS still real life, albeit one where they are under scrutiny, it isn't suspended when they step through those doors and become real again when they walk out.
It is rather like royal life in a way, where they put on a face for the public but are also scrutinised here - positively or negatively - when they do anything which gets us talking and voicing our opinions! It's just a forum for entertainment after all! :idc:

[Niamh.]

I don't really agree with this, apart from the intelligent man compliment. :hehe:
The HM's aren't actors, so their personalities are soon revealed....and it IS still real life, albeit one where they are under scrutiny, it isn't suspended when they step through those doors and become real again when they walk out.
It is rather like royal life in a way, where they put on a face for the public but are also scrutinised here - positively or negatively - when they do anything which gets us talking and voicing our opinions! It's just a forum for entertainment after all! :idc:

:douf:

I realise they're not actors but they signed up to a show that judges their personalities, like it's literally the point :laugh:

[Tom4784]

Nothing about BB resembles real life. It's people reacting to a simulated situation that would never occur in real life, no one would ever be born and live in a BB styled situation.

Comparing someone's life that they were born into to willing participants in a TV show is quite a flawed comparison.

[jet]

:douf:

I realise they're not actors but they signed up to show that judges their personalities, like it's literally the point :laugh:

The royals have always had their personalities and actions judged, long before BB was a thing. They are the most famous royal family in the world after all, of course they are going to be scrutinised. :)

[Niamh.]

The royals have always had their personalities and actions judged, long before BB was a thing. They are the most famous royal family in the world after all, of course they are going to be scrutinised. :)

My original point was the ownership over them was weird more so than the "judging", obviously people will do that to those in the spotlight but when they make moves to come away from that spotlight and people act like they're public property rather actual real people, then that's a bit creepy

[Kizzy]

It's more than creepy, being a royal must be like the Trueman show.. everything is staged and fake. Real life and emotions do not exist.

[jet]

My original point was the ownership over them was weird more so than the "judging", obviously people will do that to those in the spotlight but when they make moves to come away from that spotlight and people act like they're public property rather actual real people, then that's a bit creepy

My point is that the royal family are on show (and putting on a show face) as much any bb contestant. What they do in their lives ARE a form of entertainment for some people and always have been. It’s not ownership, its interest, and if that interest no longer existed, the royal family would become irrelevant.
It has been pointed out many times that they ARE in a way public property as they are paid public money to serve us, not sure I agree with that! :hee:

[Niamh.]

My point is that the royal family are on show (and putting on a show face) as much any bb contestant. What they do in their lives ARE a form of entertainment for some people and always have been. It’s not ownership, its interest, and if that interest no longer existed, the royal family would become irrelevant.
It has been pointed out many times that they ARE in a way public property as they are paid public money to serve us, not sure I agree with that! :hee:

This is what I mean though, that's what I find off, Harry's a real person. Can you imagine saying something like that about people on disability or Unemployment benefits? The state pays them therefore they are public property? :o Well referring to anyone as "property" is distasteful anyway

[jet]

Nothing about BB resembles real life. It's people reacting to a simulated situation that would never occur in real life, no one would ever be born and live in a BB styled situation.

Comparing someone's life that they were born into to willing participants in a TV show is quite a flawed comparison.

Nothing about how the senior Royals live resembles real life either. They also live in a styled situation when on show....

[arista]

The media, Piers Morgan to name a couple


Morgan has the Lady Presenter next to him
so its more balanced on GMBHD itv
6:30AM - 9AM

6AM - 6:30AM they have
the ex SkyNewsHD Blonde bird.

[Niamh.]

Morgan has the Lady Presenter next to him
so its more balanced on GMBHD itv
6:30AM - 9AM

6AM - 6:30AM they have
the ex SkyNewsHD Blonde bird.

Do any of these "birds" have names? No?

[arista]

Do any of these "birds" have names? No?


She does 6AM - 6:30AM

Charlotte Hawkins

[jet]

This is what I mean though, that's what I find off, Harry's a real person. Can you imagine saying something like that about people on disability or Unemployment benefits? The state pays them therefore they are public property? :o Well referring to anyone as "property" is distasteful anyway

I agree with that. But they are going to be scrutinised all the same as they are of great interest to many people. It's human nature to be fascinated with those who live completely different lives to our own, imo.
I read an interesting article a while ago which theorised that many people see the royal family as the guiding family of us all, they feel they know them like close relatives and take an interest in all their comings and goings. They feel all their ups and downs nearly as much as they would members of their own families etc.
I guess thats a bit weird...I've always been interested in Royal history, from centuries ago to the present day, but seeing them as some kind of extended family, um, no! :hee:

[Niamh.]

I agree with that. But they are going to be scrutinised all the same as they are of great interest to many people. It's human nature to be fascinated with those who live completely different lives to our own, imo.
I read an interesting article a while ago which theorised that many people see the royal family as the guiding family of us all, they feel they know them like close relatives and take an interest in all their comings and goings. They feel all their ups and downs nearly as much as they would members of their own families etc.
I guess thats a bit weird...I've always been interested in Royal history, from centuries ago to the present day, but seeing them as close relatives, um, no! :hee:

Oh god, that sounds really creepy :laugh: It seems like people forget that money, fame and privilege doesn't always make for a happy and fulfilled life. Look at poor ol Robin Williams and Heath Ledger for example. I just try to put myself into their positions I suppose and obviously the money would be fantastic but personally I couldn't cope with the lack of privacy and always having to behave in a certain way and feeling like I don't own myself

[Twosugars]

I agree with that. But they are going to be scrutinised all the same as they are of great interest to many people. It's human nature to be fascinated with those who live completely different lives to our own, imo.
I read an interesting article a while ago which theorised that many people see the royal family as the guiding family of us all, they feel they know them like close relatives and take an interest in all their comings and goings. They feel all their ups and downs nearly as much as they would members of their own families etc.
I guess thats a bit weird...I've always been interested in Royal history, from centuries ago to the present day, but seeing them as some kind of extended family, um, no! :hee:

How bizzare :umm2:

Well tough ****. You can get yourself a pair of budgies instead bc harry and meghan have flown the cage.

[Cherie]

How bizzare :umm2:

Well tough ****. You can get yourself a pair of budgies instead bc harry and meghan have flown the cage.

Is it really much different to ‘stanning’ people on twitter and following them :suspect:

Moving to Canada won’t protect them from the press, where did you get that idea :shrug:

[jet]

Is it really much different to ‘stanning’ people on twitter and following them :suspect:

Moving to Canada won’t protect them from the press, where did you get that idea :shrug:

They are both strong points Cherie. :thumbs:

[Niamh.]

Is it really much different to ‘stanning’ people on twitter and following them :suspect:

Moving to Canada won’t protect them from the press, where did you get that idea :shrug:

Well, "stanning" by definition is creepy stalkerish behavior

[Cherie]

Well, "stanning" by definition is creepy stalkerish behavior

I agree, but isn't that what Twitter and Instagram is all about

Neither appeal to me, if I don't hear about it by conventional methods I don't care enough to follow anyone round :laugh:

[Niamh.]

I agree, but isn't that what Twitter and Instagram is all about

Neither appeal to me, if I don't hear about it by conventional methods I don't care enough to follow anyone round :laugh:

Oh I don't use Twitter either, I have an instagram account but I follow about 25 people and I actually know them all in real life (oh sorry I have 3 people from TiBB on there too)

[jet]

I don’t get Harry’s reasoning when it comes to protecting little Archie from the press. The media have never bothered royal children, look at Kate and Williams 3, they are only seen when they want them to be.
William and Harry both went to uni as teenagers and were able to lead normal lives while there, going into town to use the shops and restaurants. The press left them completely alone for the duration.

They won’t have that mutual agreement in Canada, and certainly not in LA, where they say they want to live after Trump is no longer president. Kids of high - profile LA celeb parents invariably get messed up and many end up in therapy.
Plus, he is taking Archie away from his extended family - his grandparents, his great grandparents, his uncles, his aunts, all his little cousins who he will grow up barely knowing.
My all means go, but I can’t see it benefiting Archie in any way. I kind of feel sad for the little kid.

[Ammi]

...I agree about the ownership of the Royals being something that I personally can’t gel with...’ARE THEY GOING to pay us back for their wedding...are they going to pay us back for their house renovations...this is our money/these are OUR Royals, we own them...it can’t really be compared to anything else either ...

[Cherie]

I don’t get Harry’s reasoning when it comes to protecting little Archie from the press. The media have never bothered royal children, look at Kate and Williams 3, they are only seen when they want them to be.
William and Harry both went to uni as teenagers and were able to lead normal lives while there, going into town to use the shops and restaurants. The press left them completely alone for the duration.

They won’t have that mutual agreement in Canada, and certainly not in LA, where they say they want to live after Trump is no longer president. Kids of high - profile LA celeb parents invariably get messed up and many end up in therapy.
Plus, he is taking Archie away from his extended family - his grandparents, his great grandparents, his uncles, his aunts, all his little cousins who he will grow up barely knowing.
My all means go, but I can’t see it benefiting Archie in any way. I kind of feel sad for the little kid.

Isn’t there some law that Royal kiddies can’t be photographed without permission? Any Tom Dick or not Harry will be able to take pics of Archie

[arista]

Prince Harry
also popped into the UK - Africa Summit
in London today.
To meet some African Leaders.

The PM was there.

[jet]

Isn’t there some law that Royal kiddies can’t be photographed without permission? Any Tom Dick or not Harry will be able to take pics of Archie

Yes, its a law in the UK.

[bots]

i think they will be much more vulnerable to press intrusion than if they were still part of the royal circus, so I don't get their reasoning at all. I don't think either of them are very bright which probably isnt helping

[Ammi]

Susanna Reid puts 'hypocritical' Piers Morgan in his place after latest Harry and Meghan rant...


She said: “So he's decided to give up all the palaces and the servants and the royal funding and he wants to have a more peaceful life.

“And I don't know why you have to keep having a go at him.”

Morgan then mockingly cooed: “Ooo, poor Harry”, to which Reid replied: "Why do you have to act like that? It's not pathetic, he's made a decision.

“Let them do what the hell they like and stop having a go at them.”

When Morgan claimed Harry and Meghan “never stop yapping”, Reid already had a response ready.

“You never stop yapping!” she said, raising her voice. “It's so ironic, you're so hypocritical.

“‘Me, me, me, it's all about me,’ and you have a go at Prince Harry. You have a go at him all the time.”


...video full article in the link...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/susanna-reid-puts-hypocritical-piers-101638770.html

[arista]

Morgan was Right

[Liam-]

Susanna scalped him, about time too

[Livia]

Sick of hearing about them now.

[thesheriff443]

Harry has had the best of everything from food to clothes to education to getting drunk dressing as a nazi solder.

Yes he lost his mum, but today in the Brompton hospital London, a close family friend had to watch the life support machine being switched of their 30 year old daughter, she died from a lung infection, she leaves behind two kids under ten.

Harry is not the only one to lose a mother, people carrying on like the he has been tortured.

[Marsh.]

I don’t get Harry’s reasoning when it comes to protecting little Archie from the press. The media have never bothered royal children, look at Kate and Williams 3, they are only seen when they want them to be.
William and Harry both went to uni as teenagers and were able to lead normal lives while there, going into town to use the shops and restaurants. The press left them completely alone for the duration.

They won’t have that mutual agreement in Canada, and certainly not in LA, where they say they want to live after Trump is no longer president. Kids of high - profile LA celeb parents invariably get messed up and many end up in therapy.
Plus, he is taking Archie away from his extended family - his grandparents, his great grandparents, his uncles, his aunts, all his little cousins who he will grow up barely knowing.
My all means go, but I can’t see it benefiting Archie in any way. I kind of feel sad for the little kid.

Yes, let's all not believe Harry - the one actually experiencing it because Jet off TiBB can't see the reasoning. None of us are born Royals so we're not going to understand it.

[Marsh.]

Harry has had the best of everything from food to clothes to education to getting drunk dressing as a nazi solder.

Yes he lost his mum, but today in the Brompton hospital London, a close family friend had to watch the life support machine being switched of their 30 year old daughter, she died from a lung infection, she leaves behind two kids under ten.

Harry is not the only one to lose a mother, people carrying on like the he has been tortured.

Just because someone else has had it worse doesn't suddenly make his own pain nothing. What a pointless comparison you're making.

Nobody has said he's the most hard-done by person in the world, they're discussing his choices, his life, based on his experiences and his loss. Nobody else's.

It's not about who's had the worst pain or suffered the worst grief. It's not a competition.

[Marsh.]

...I agree about the ownership of the Royals being something that I personally can’t gel with...’ARE THEY GOING to pay us back for their wedding...are they going to pay us back for their house renovations...this is our money/these are OUR Royals, we own them...it can’t really be compared to anything else either ...

Yeah and it's quite ridiculous really when the money that the Crown Estate generates more than covers what is paid to the Royal family. I think it's treble tbh.

[Marsh.]

Is it really much different to ‘stanning’ people on twitter and following them :suspect:

I wouldn't say so. Isn't "stanning" about being a fan of someone's work. If they're putting out a product you enjoy, music or movies etc that you invest in.

[AnnieK]

Harry has had the best of everything from food to clothes to education to getting drunk dressing as a nazi solder.

Yes he lost his mum, but today in the Brompton hospital London, a close family friend had to watch the life support machine being switched of their 30 year old daughter, she died from a lung infection, she leaves behind two kids under ten.

Harry is not the only one to lose a mother, people carrying on like the he has been tortured.

That's terribly sad about your friend Sheriff, I am sorry to hear that.

However, those children will not be forced to parade through the streets behind their mothers coffin, trying to maintain a stiff upper lip when all they want is their mummy. William and Harry were not allowed to grieve in their own time, they had to put it behind them and smile and wave at the cameras of the very industry they blamed fir their mothers death

[rusticgal]

Harry has had the best of everything from food to clothes to education to getting drunk dressing as a nazi solder.

Yes he lost his mum, but today in the Brompton hospital London, a close family friend had to watch the life support machine being switched of their 30 year old daughter, she died from a lung infection, she leaves behind two kids under ten.

Harry is not the only one to lose a mother, people carrying on like the he has been tortured.



No he is not...but he did it very publicly at the tender age of 13.

I have said before that I think they will be even more vulnerable to press intrusion more than ever..

[jet]

Yes, let's all not believe Harry - the one actually experiencing it because Jet off TiBB can't see the reasoning. None of us are born Royals so we're not going to understand it.

Please address the post and stop being personal about me.

[Marsh.]

Please address the post and stop being personal about me.

I addressed it. It was a post about how you don't understand his reasoning.

Chances are, you're not going to as no one but the Royals know what it's like to be born into that circus.

If pointing out you're not Royal is classed as a personal insult then I apologise profusely.

[Livia]

And to think she was the woman who was in Suits. I've certainly never seen her in anything else... and yet here she is, almost as famous as the Queen these days. And they're fine with the press when they're using them for their own ends, raising awareness of this, and telling us that... but then moan about press intrusion.

Everyone remembers Harry walking behind that coffin. And to be honest, I think a lot of the dislike of Meghan has grown since she married him. Harry could have walked away from the royal family at any time he liked, but he didn't. But he's going to now. I do hope the press soon remembers that there's other stuff going on.

[Marsh.]

And to think she was the woman who was in Suits. I've certainly never seen her in anything else... and yet here she is, almost as famous as the Queen these days. And they're fine with the press when they're using them for their own ends, raising awareness of this, and telling us that... but then moan about press intrusion.

There's a distinct difference between raising awareness at charity events and press intrusion, surely.

One is a public event open to the public/press etc. The other is their private/personal life being, well, intruded.

I really don't see how their charity work is being used as some kind of insult against them.

[Parmy]

There's a distinct difference between raising awareness at charity events and press intrusion, surely.

One is a public event open to the public/press etc. The other is their private/personal life being, well, intruded.

I really don't see how their charity work is being used as some kind of insult against them.

How is it being intruded exactly by the press?..there ain't been any hidden shots? No toe suckling, all its been so far is the press reporting on public opinion..that being the fact that she just aint good enough for the royal family..history tells us that.

[Kizzy]

Well it's been something else for the gammonati to get their trotters in a flap about that's for damn sure...

[Parmy]

Well it's been something else for the gammonati to get their trotters in a flap about that's for damn sure...

:joker:

I might use that as my sig.

[jet]

I addressed it. It was a post about how you don't understand his reasoning.

Chances are, you're not going to as no one but the Royals know what it's like to be born into that circus.

If pointing out you're not Royal is classed as a personal insult then I apologise profusely.

You addressed it in a sarcastic baity way.

[Marsh.]

You addressed it in a sarcastic baity way.

So instead of actually responding you're going to use the word "bait" again.

Grow up.

[Kizzy]

:joker:

I might use that as my sig.

You're more than welcome. :)

[Livia]

So instead of actually responding you're going to use the word "bait" again.

Grow up.

Being sarcastic and baity is all part of your charm Marshy x

[Marsh.]

Being sarcastic and baity is all part of your charm Marshy x

:love:

[rusticgal]

How is it being intruded exactly by the press?..there ain't been any hidden shots? No toe suckling, all its been so far is the press reporting on public opinion..that being the fact that she just aint good enough for the royal family..history tells us that.


No there haven’t been intrusive pictures....Meghan simply doesn’t like negative press. She went against Royal traditions and wanted to play things her way that’s what started turning the public and press against her...but she courts it when it suits her...like she is doing now in Canada. Blaming the press for their leaving but courting it to get exposure in their new home :shrug:

[Marsh.]

So, now intrusion is only pictures of Meghan's tits? Ok.

[Marsh.]

No there haven’t been intrusive pictures....Meghan simply doesn’t like negative press. She went against Royal traditions and wanted to play things her way that’s what started turning the public and press against her...but she courts it when it suits her...like she is doing now in Canada. Blaming the press for their leaving but courting it to get exposure in their new home :shrug:

Yes, Meghan, not her husband, the actual Royal.

[Parmy]

So, now intrusion is only pictures of Meghan's tits? Ok.

It's different if you are a royal though marsh...you kinda sign up for the thirst of the public, so have to expect every movement to be scrutinised by the press..

She signed up, but realised she had no control..I think the press have merely jump on that knowledge from the start as did the British public in its judgement of her...so the press and public merged into one..and her precious soul suddenly started feeling like she had no control anymore...so high tailed it diva like to Canada, leaving a seriously fragile harry behind to pick up the pieces...


So I'm going back on what I early came to as a conclusion to the story and decided she's a diva and harrys her lap dog with emotional problems..so she's not the caring wife at all.

[Twosugars]

Well it's been something else for the gammonati to get their trotters in a flap about that's for damn sure...

:joker:

[Marsh.]

It's different if you are a royal though marsh...you kinda sign up for the thirst of the public, so have to expect every movement to be scrutinised by the press..

She signed up, but realised she had no control..I think the press have merely jump on that knowledge from the start as did the British public in its judgement of her...so the press and public merged into one..and her precious soul suddenly started feeling like she had no control anymore...so high tailed it diva like to Canada, leaving a seriously fragile harry behind to pick up the pieces...


So I'm going back on what I early came to as a conclusion to the story and decided she's a diva and harrys her lap dog with emotional problems..so she's not the caring wife at all.

I really don't see how not dealing with it makes her a diva. I would imagine most people couldn't hack it. Even the people who were born into, not signed up, and spent their whole life struggling and continue to struggle with it.

But, again, let's ignore the existence of Harry, the actual Prince, the actual Grandson of the Queen, the son of Princess Diana and make out this move is all down to Meghan Markle. :/

[jet]

The latest is that Harry isn't happy with the arrangements and the palace isn't happy with Harry alluding to that in a speech - seemingly trying to get the last word - after the Queens generous and affectionate statement. So it goes on....:hee:

[Marsh.]

The latest is that Harry isn't happy with the arrangements and the palace isn't happy with Harry alluding to that in a speech - seemingly trying to get the last word - after the Queens generous and affectionate statement. So it goes on....:hee:

They don't want the story to dry up so will continue the lies, whilst Harry, the Queen and the rest of the family will get on with it.

[Parmy]

I really don't see how not dealing with it makes her a diva. I would imagine most people couldn't hack it. Even the people who were born into, not signed up, and spent their whole life struggling and continue to struggle with it.

But, again, let's ignore the existence of Harry, the actual Prince, the actual Grandson of the Queen, the son of Princess Diana and make out this move is all down to Meghan Markle. :/



Fair enough, but she ain't even bloody tried.:fist:

[jet]

They don't want the story to dry up so will continue the lies, whilst Harry, the Queen and the rest of the family will get on with it.

How do you know its lies?

[Marsh.]

How do you know its lies?

Baseless gossip is baseless gossip.

[Parmy]

All this is probably just an plot to take andrew off the front pages anyway...so perhaps she is the dutiful wife after all...:shrug:

[Kizzy]

All this is probably just an plot to take andrew off the front pages anyway...so perhaps she is the dutiful wife after all...:shrug:

It has hasn't it? .. funny that.

[jet]

Baseless gossip is baseless gossip.

How do you know its baseless gossip?

[Parmy]

It has hasn't it? .. funny that.

His favourite uncle. :hee:

[Marsh.]

How do you know its baseless gossip?

Because it's gossip with no base. If it was factual it would be reported as such, along with the evidence.

[Parmy]

https://www.facebook.com/172573132808153/posts/3688726677859430/

[Kizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/172573132808153/posts/3688726677859430/

:joker:

[Cherie]

https://www.facebook.com/172573132808153/posts/3688726677859430/

:laugh:

[Marsh.]

https://www.facebook.com/172573132808153/posts/3688726677859430/

:joker:

[jet]

Because it's gossip with no base. If it was factual it would be reported as such, along with the evidence.

It is being reported on Sky news on the hour. I said it was the latest, not whether I believed it or not. :smug:

[Marsh.]

It is being reported on Sky news on the hour. I said it was the latest, not whether I believed it or not. :smug:

I never said you believed it. I commented on the gossip itself.

[Zizu]

So yesterday Queenie waved off Harry but welcomed back Andrew into the fold !!

Kinda like losing a diamond ring but then suddenly finding a tin of rice pudding ..


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[jet]

I really don't see how not dealing with it makes her a diva. I would imagine most people couldn't hack it. Even the people who were born into, not signed up, and spent their whole life struggling and continue to struggle with it.

But, again, let's ignore the existence of Harry, the actual Prince, the actual Grandson of the Queen, the son of Princess Diana and make out this move is all down to Meghan Markle. :/

How do you know it isn't? Do you have all the factual evidence?

[Parmy]

It's fairly simple..


Royalty and commoners are different..

She's lucky harry wasn't a king Henry and even luckier she was born in this day and age.

[Twosugars]

How do you know it isn't? Do you have all the factual evidence?

Yes.
He said many times in his interviews how uneasy he is about his role and media intrusion.

[Parmy]

Yes.
He said many times in his interviews how uneasy he is about his role and media intrusion.

In his cartier watch and immaculately ironed shirt...

[Tom4784]

Because money can free someone from stress and anxiety and of the burden of obvious trauma regarding the death of a parent...

You can't suffer when you have a pressed shirt and a fancy watch after all...

[jet]

Yes.
He said many times in his interviews how uneasy he is about his role and media intrusion.

That isn't factual evidence. There was no hint of him moving anywhere until Meghan came along. I'm not saying it was all her, or it wasn't, but Marsh does insist on actual evidence, or so he said. :shrug:

[Parmy]

Because money can free someone from stress and anxiety and of the burden of obvious trauma regarding the death of a parent...

You can't suffer when you have a pressed shirt and a fancy watch after all...



You are skewing my point

[jet]

Because money can free someone from stress and anxiety and of the burden of obvious trauma regarding the death of a parent...

You can't suffer when you have a pressed shirt and a fancy watch after all...

The Africans who had lost many parents/children due to poverty and disease might beg to differ as money is exactly what they needed. But Meghan stands in that country and whines about how hard her life is, especially with a baby - she has a nanny ffs! (On her 4th nanny now btw)....and Harry has his moan as well. How insensitive and self - unaware can they be - at least wait until you leave the country before doing the poor privileged me routine.

[Glenn.]

Can we stop engaging with the Meghan haters now please. It’s getting really boring.

[jet]

Can we stop engaging with the Meghan haters now please. It’s getting really boring.

Is the truth hurting?
I don't hate Meghan, I dislike her behaviour. Diffferent thing. If you think its fine what they did in S.Africa, moaning in a country about their awful lives where people are dying from starvation and disease every day and young girls are raped daily without any comeback, that's your problem.

[Glenn.]

Tell yourself what you want to justify your irrational hatred of a woman you don’t know hun

[jet]

Tell yourself what you want to justify your irrational hatred of a woman you don’t know hun

Don't be silly. Do you think what they did in S. Africa was fine?

[Glenn.]

Yes it was completely fine.

[jet]

Yes it was completely fine.

I see. Wow. That smacks of irrational adoration, hun.

[Glenn.]

I don’t think anyone would disagree that they way the pair of them and especially Meghan has been hounded by press during her entire pregnancy had a toll on them both and especially Meghan. From what I can remember she was asked a question to which she gave a very honest answer. Only a monster would disagree and STILL spin it as a ‘whining Meghan moment’ get a grip of yourself

[Liam-]

Let’s just all take some time to remember that Andrew is still being supported by tax payer money and living in a tax supported house with his tax supported daughters (for some reason) all while a man and his wife are doing what’s best for their family are being hounded like they’ve slaughtered an orphanage, people need to check their priorities

[jet]

I don’t think anyone would disagree that they way the pair of them and especially Meghan has been hounded by press during her entire pregnancy had a toll on them both and especially Meghan. From what I can remember she was asked a question to which she gave a very honest answer. Only a monster would disagree and STILL spin it as a ‘whining Meghan moment’ get a grip of yourself

An interview with pre - prepared questions set up with Harry's long time friend Tom Bradby, so they could talk about their 'difficulties'. Bradby said so himself.

[Glenn.]

An interview with pre - prepared questions set up with Harry's long time friend Tom Bradby, so they could talk about their 'difficulties'. Bradby said so himself.

So? Aren’t they allowed to share their struggles then? They are people after all.

[jet]

Let’s just all take some time to remember that Andrew is still being supported by tax payer money and living in a tax supported house with his tax supported daughters (for some reason) all while a man and his wife are doing what’s best for their family are being hounded like they’ve slaughtered an orphanage, people need to check their priorities

This isn't an Andrew thread and nothing has been proved yet. Not that I don't think he could be guilty.
I don't know about Andrew, but his daughters are not supported in any way by the taxpayers. They have jobs, and Andrew pays for their security himself.

[Twosugars]

Can we stop engaging with the Meghan haters now please. It’s getting really boring.

I must agree. The persistent vilification of them here just confirms how right they were

[jet]

So? Aren’t they allowed to share their struggles then? They are people after all.

:facepalm:

[Glenn.]

Thought as much

[jet]

Thought as much

You thought as much what?

[rusticgal]

So? Aren’t they allowed to share their struggles then? They are people after all.


But the programme set out to portray their support for the poor communities and the poor young girls that are subjected to rape on a daily basis...then ended with them feeling sorry for themselves and the treatment they were getting from the press...Really?

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/4BDl1wK1OliAHipbpT9_aA/https/media.fyre.co/c88tnU87RBWdIWxOJ2OY_sun%20tuesday.jpg
Over Large Sun Front Page
"The Joy of the Sussex"


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[Ammi]

...I guess they really couldn’t ‘win for losing‘ and Meghan in particular...they try to relate to things like ‘new motherhood’ on a personal level in interviews, the type of personal level that Diana had and still the criticism will be found...it makes me think of that saying ...’haters gonna hate’...because it doesn’t matter what they do or how they do it, for some, the negative will be sought and found...we can always find negatives if that’s what we’re looking for and scrutinising for...it also makes me think of Ann Widdeccombe’s ‘assessment’ of Meghan...of someone she had never met and had very little knowledge of ...’I think she’s trouble’...if ‘trouble’ is what you seek, then ‘trouble’ will be what you find because it’s how whatever actions will be interpreted...


...off topic, how wonderful It would have been for Diana to have been able to look into the face of Archie and to hold Archie...I’m thinking that Harry must be thinking so much about his mum at this time especially and how he would have loved his son and mum to meet...:sad:..

[thesheriff443]

[QUOTE=Ammi;10760045]...I guess they really couldn’t ‘win for losing‘ and Meghan in particular...they try to relate to things like ‘new motherhood’ on a personal level in interviews, the type of personal level that Diana had and still the criticism will be found...it makes me think of that saying ...’haters gonna hate’...because it doesn’t matter what they do or how they do it, for some, the negative will be sought and found...we can always find negatives if that’s what we’re looking for and scrutinising for...it also makes me think of Ann Widdeccombe’s ‘assessment’ of Meghan...of someone she had never met and had very little knowledge of ...’I think she’s trouble’...if ‘trouble’ is what you seek, then ‘trouble’ will be what you find because it’s how whatever actions will be interpreted...


...off topic, how wonderful It would have been for Diana to have been able to look into the face of Archie and to hold Archie...I’m thinking that Harry must be thinking so much about his mum at this time especially and how h

It’s funny how if you have an ongoing negative opinion of Megan or Harry you are being labelled as a obsessed hate filled racist.

[Tom4784]

The Africans who had lost many parents/children due to poverty and disease might beg to differ as money is exactly what they needed. But Meghan stands in that country and whines about how hard her life is, especially with a baby - she has a nanny ffs! (On her 4th nanny now btw)....and Harry has his moan as well. How insensitive and self - unaware can they be - at least wait until you leave the country before doing the poor privileged me routine.

There's a difference between having a reason to hate someone and twisting yourself in knots to create one.

You could literally apply your logic to anyone. 'Nobody can ever reveal how much they are hurting because there's people in Africa starving!' It's such a toxic mindset to have. We encourage people to be open with their feelings and any issues relating to mental health and then people like you use it as an excuse to bash someone they dislike.

Royals can have difficulties just like the rest of us, you can do charity work yet still crack under the pressure if personal difficulties get too much and being open about struggles is never wrong.

Like Parm, you're trying to make out that people with money aren't allowed to feel pain like the rest of us. Humans are human, even Meghan Markle and I don't think you actually realise that she's more than just your symbol of hate.

[Tom4784]

[QUOTE=Ammi;10760045]...I guess they really couldn’t ‘win for losing‘ and Meghan in particular...they try to relate to things like ‘new motherhood’ on a personal level in interviews, the type of personal level that Diana had and still the criticism will be found...it makes me think of that saying ...’haters gonna hate’...because it doesn’t matter what they do or how they do it, for some, the negative will be sought and found...we can always find negatives if that’s what we’re looking for and scrutinising for...it also makes me think of Ann Widdeccombe’s ‘assessment’ of Meghan...of someone she had never met and had very little knowledge of ...’I think she’s trouble’...if ‘trouble’ is what you seek, then ‘trouble’ will be what you find because it’s how whatever actions will be interpreted...


...off topic, how wonderful It would have been for Diana to have been able to look into the face of Archie and to hold Archie...I’m thinking that Harry must be thinking so much about his mum at this time especially and how h

It’s funny how if you have an ongoing negative opinion of Megan or Harry you are being labelled as a obsessed hate filled racist.


Harry's memories of Diana and the pain of losing her so long is probably what prompted this whole thing. I don't think it's a coincidence that they are bowing out when they've recently become a young family, especially considering that Harry himself is nearly at the age she died at. He's never exactly been secretive about how much he resents the media and can anyone really blame him? Now that he's a parent himself, I reckon Diana's probably on his mind more than ever.

I couldn't imagine having to deal with a media that's basically responsible for my mother's death, good on him for doing it as long as he did but sometimes you have to do what's best for you and leaving is obviously what's best for his family.

[Marsh.]

How do you know it isn't? Do you have all the factual evidence?

How do I know Harry has made this choice and has wanted it for a long time?

The words out of his own mouth.

[Marsh.]

That isn't factual evidence. There was no hint of him moving anywhere until Meghan came along. I'm not saying it was all her, or it wasn't, but Marsh does insist on actual evidence, or so he said. :shrug:

When we're discussing Harry's own actions, decisions and motivations then the words from his own mouth are worth 100% more than the words of gossip-mongers and cheap rags.

[Livia]

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I don't want to see her smiling at a camera any more. I thought she wanted away from all that?

[Niamh.]

I don't want to see her smiling at a camera any more. I thought she wanted away from all that?

You say that like it's her fault a pap took a photo of her and sold it to the Sun? Or do you think she should never go outdoors anymore :laugh:

[Livia]

You say that like it's her fault a pap took a photo of her and sold it to the Sun? Or do you think she should never go outdoors anymore :laugh:

A pap hasn't jumped out on her for that pic. She's being followed by two security guards (You're welcome, Meghan...) I'm sure that if she didn't want to be photographed those guards would have sorted it. She's got the whole of the rest of Vancouver Island to walk the dogs.

Thing is, no one knows any more about her than anyone else. And yet, because she used to be in Suits and she's mixed race, she's turned into some wronged Goddess*. She wants to leave. Let her go.

* generally.

[Niamh.]

A pap hasn't jumped out on her for that pic. She's being followed by two security guards (You're welcome, Meghan...) I'm sure that if she didn't want to be photographed those guards would have sorted it. She's got the whole of the rest of Vancouver Island to walk the dogs.

Thing is, no one knows any more about her than anyone else. And yet, because she used to be in Suits and she's mixed race, she's turned into some wronged Goddess*. She wants to leave. Let her go.

* generally.

Ok so it's her fault she got photographed also her fault the photo got put on the front page of the Sun, got it

[Kizzy]

Maybe she was smiling because it wasn't a pap but a member of the public, who then sold the pic?

[Niamh.]

Maybe she was smiling because it wasn't a pap but a member of the public, who then sold the pic?

Or maybe she's just having a good day, out walking with her son and her dogs? Odd I know :laugh:

[Livia]

Or maybe she thought a "Mother Earth" pic with her baby strapped on and the dogs, and a big smile.... would be perfect.

She's being built up into some kind of saint.

[Marsh.]

Yes, imagining she's not the Devil incarnate makes her a saint. Obviously.

[Livia]

Yes, imagining she's not the Devil incarnate makes her a saint. Obviously.

Oh yes, because if you don't think she's a saint, you must think she's the devil incarnate....

[Marsh.]

Oh yes, because if you don't think she's a saint, you must think she's the devil incarnate....

Well, thinking every tiny little thing she does is a manipulative endeavour is not far off.

This is the woman who can't close a car door or touch her stomach without it being some massive ploy to destroy the Royal family.

[Niamh.]

Or maybe she thought a "Mother Earth" pic with her baby strapped on and the dogs, and a big smile.... would be perfect.

She's being built up into some kind of saint.

But she has a baby and she has dogs, can she not go out with them now without being accused of having some ulterior motive other than just being a mother and a dog owner?

[Livia]

But she has a baby and she has dogs, can she not go out with them now without being accused of having some ulterior motive other than just being a mother and a dog owner?

I'm sure it wasn't planned at all. I'm sure Meghan would never ever manipulate the press. Just like Princess Dianna didn't manipulate them.

I don't really like Meghan. That's my right. She and Harry have said they're going to step out of the limelight. I hope they do it soon because then I won't have to justify every comment I make about them by saying, I don't hate them, but they've turned their back on the Royals... so **** off already.

I'm taking my baby out later, with the dog. Sure hope no one jumps out and takes my photo! Because if they did, I'd be finding another place to walk my dog that has more privacy, and I don't need two security guards to help me do that.

[Livia]

Well, thinking every tiny little thing she does is a manipulative endeavour is not far off.

This is the woman who can't close a car door or touch her stomach without it being some massive ploy to destroy the Royal family.

I'd like you to quote the posts where I've said any of those things.

[Marsh.]

I'd like you to quote the posts where I've said any of those things.

I'd like you to quote the posts where I accused you of saying any of those things.

[Niamh.]

Well, thinking every tiny little thing she does is a manipulative endeavour is not far off.

This is the woman who can't close a car door or touch her stomach without it being some massive ploy to destroy the Royal family.

I know right, because no expectant mother ever touched their stomach ever :laugh:

[Livia]

I'd like you to quote the posts where I accused you of saying any of those things.

You were responding to me when you said those things. I never said anything like that. So why include them in your post Marshy?

I don't wish her ill, I will her well, and her family.... but they've decided they don't want the job... so just go.

[Livia]

I know right, because no expectant mother ever touched their stomach ever :laugh:

Yes, all mothers are allowed to touch their stomach, royal or not.

Just for clarity.

[Niamh.]

Yes, all mothers are allowed to touch their stomach, royal or not.

Just for clarity.

That wasn't a dig at you, that was those newspaper articles implying something sinister was going on because Meghan touched her pregnant belly :laugh:

[Marsh.]

You were responding to me when you said those things. I never said anything like that. So why include them in your post Marshy?

Because our conversation was as follows....


She's being built up into some kind of saint.

Yes, imagining she's not the Devil incarnate makes her a saint. Obviously.

Oh yes, because if you don't think she's a saint, you must think she's the devil incarnate....

Well, thinking every tiny little thing she does is a manipulative endeavour is not far off.

This is the woman who can't close a car door or touch her stomach without it being some massive ploy to destroy the Royal family.

I'd like you to quote the posts where I've said any of those things.

At no point did I mention or accuse you of anything personally. I responded to your initial point of her "being built into some kind of saint" to which I replied that she's been built into some kind of devil who has mind control over Harry, so simply defending her is not making her a saint.

[Marsh.]

I don't wish her ill, I will her well, and her family.... but they've decided they don't want the job... so just go.

She has gone. You assume she has control over what The Sun sticks on its front page?

[Livia]

Because our conversation was as follows....


At no point did I mention or accuse you of anything personally. I responded to your initial point of her "being built into some kind of saint" to which I replied that she's been built into some kind of devil who has mind control over Harry, so simply defending her is not making her a saint.

Marshy, this is tiresome now. I hate it when a conversation is reduced to semantics. So I'm going out with my baby to walk the dog. No ulterior motive.

[Marsh.]

Marshy, this is tiresome now. I hate it when a conversation is reduced to semantics.

It's not about semantics Livia. I didn't accuse you of anything as our conversation wasn't about you. :shrug:

[Liam-]

Mother in ‘smiles on walk with her dogs and baby’ shock

[Niamh.]

Mother in ‘smiles on walk with her dogs and baby’ shock

:laugh:

[Kizzy]

Reduced to semantics...Is that like saying you don't like someone's reasoning behind the words they used explained to you?

Because sometimes that's very beneficial in a conversation, expecially if the meaning is not clear or misunderstood.

[Cherie]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal-family/harry-and-meghan-threaten-legal-action-over-canada-paparazzi-shots/ar-BBZb9mJ?ocid=spartanntp

oh dear

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have issued a warning over continued harassment by paparazzi photographers as they start their new life in Canada out of the spotlight.
It comes after images of Meghan were published in the media showing her taking a stroll through a public park on Vancouver Island.
The duchess can be seen smiling as she walks along with Archie and her two dogs.

Lawyers for the couple claim these were taken without her consent - and that the photographer was hiding in the bushes and spying on her.
They also claim there were previous attempts to photograph them inside their home using long range lenses and that paparazzi were permanently camped outside their home

[Cherie]

Maybe she was smiling because it wasn't a pap but a member of the public, who then sold the pic?

Lawyers for the couple claim these were taken without her consent - and that the photographer was hiding in the bushes and spying on her.
They also claim there were previous attempts to photograph them inside their home using long range lenses and that paparazzi were permanently camped outside their home

[Marsh.]

They also claim there were previous attempts to photograph them inside their home using long range lenses and that paparazzi were permanently camped outside their home

#Intrusion :smug:

[Cherie]

When I saw the photos in that article this morning, I have never seen any Royals photographed in that way since Diana died.

[jet]

There's a difference between having a reason to hate someone and twisting yourself in knots to create one.

You could literally apply your logic to anyone. 'Nobody can ever reveal how much they are hurting because there's people in Africa starving!' It's such a toxic mindset to have. We encourage people to be open with their feelings and any issues relating to mental health and then people like you use it as an excuse to bash someone they dislike.



You really don't get it, do you? They could have expressed their hurt anytime....but they chose to do it at the end of a tour in which they met people who had lost loved ones through terrible poverty and disease and highlighted the rape of young girls on daily basis. A genuinely compassionate person would have thought "After what I have seen and learned, its put my problems into perspective, no way can I whine about them in this documentary".
But they were so self - absorbed they did just that.
If you don't see anything wrong with that, you have a problem.

[jet]

you're trying to make out that people with money aren't allowed to feel pain like the rest of us.

No, thats you trying to make out I think that, with no basis for it whatsoever.
The leaps you take regularly are so preposterous they are laughable.

[Tom4784]

You really don't get it, do you? They could have expressed their hurt anytime....but they chose to do it at the end of a tour in which they met people who had lost loved ones through terrible poverty and disease and highlighted the rape of young girls on daily basis. A genuinely compassionate person would have thought "After what I have seen and learned, its put my problems into perspective, no way can I whine about them in this documentary".
But they were so self - absorbed they did just that.
If you don't see anything wrong with that, you have a problem.

'If you don't see things from my perspective, you have a problem.'

Charming.

I don't think you can claim compassion when you're essentially using these people as tools to beat Meghan with.

At the end of the day, the documentary was about Harry and Meghan, it wouldn't have been made and if it had, people wouldn't have watched it. What they did was put a focus on Harry and Meghan because that's what people tuned in to see but they also shone light on the plight of these people and now people have heard their stories when they wouldn't have cared before.

It's the same with any documentary about humanitarian issues, there's always a notable figure or celebrity at the forefront to get people to tune in.

[AnnieK]

You really don't get it, do you? They could have expressed their hurt anytime....but they chose to do it at the end of a tour in which they met people who had lost loved ones through terrible poverty and disease and highlighted the rape of young girls on daily basis. A genuinely compassionate person would have thought "After what I have seen and learned, its put my problems into perspective, no way can I whine about them in this documentary".
But they were so self - absorbed they did just that.
If you don't see anything wrong with that, you have a problem.

Now you see, I'm not 100% sure that it is self-absorption Jet. I know there are horrors in the world, I have seen some first hand and others I have seen on TV reports but it doesn't lessen my problems any. I think that they knew that this divorce from the family was coming when that documentary was made and they were using it as a vehicle to tell people how they were struggling and to say that its ok if you have problems - someone will always have it worse, it doesn't mean your struggles are any less real and difficult for you, however much of a privileged background you come from, your problems are your problems and knowing people have worse doesn't stop you feeling your own pain.

Being told to "put up and shut up" because they are rich and live a lifestyle that most people can't dream about will only compound and impact on mental health issues as they feel they can't say how they are feeling.

I feel for them but I fear because of all the media frenzy, things are going to get an awful lot worse for them before they start to get better.

[jet]

How do I know Harry has made this choice and has wanted it for a long time?

The words out of his own mouth.

But he never left, did he? He could have gone off to his beloved S. Africa with Chelsy Davy (who came from there) when she turned him down because she didn't want to become part of the royal family and was going back home.
How do you know Meghan didn't coerce him into leaving, how do you know he isn't just doing it because she wants it? Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but you are the one who goes on and on about factual evidence and Harry saying something isn't it.

[jet]

When we're discussing Harry's own actions, decisions and motivations then the words from his own mouth are worth 100% more than the words of gossip-mongers and cheap rags.

Of course they are worth more, but really, Harry says what he wants us to hear, are you that naive? It might be the truth, it might not, it might be somewhere in between....and you need to stop reading cheap rags and listening to gossip mongers, I don't.

[Tom4784]

But he never left, did he? He could have gone off to his beloved S. Africa with Chelsy Davy (who came from there) when she turned him down because she didn't want to become part of the royal family and was going back home.
How do you know Meghan didn't coerce him into leaving, how do you know he isn't just doing it because she wants it? Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but you are the one who goes on and on about factual evidence and Harry saying something isn't it.

Maybe because he thought he had to grin and bare it? Maybe because he didn't think there was any other choice? Maybe it was his child being born that had an impact on his decision. There's a lot of reasons why it might have taken him this long to make this decision.

His own words hold more weight than the gossip rags you believe are gospel purely because they reinforce your beliefs whether they're true or not.

[Oliver_W]

I don't get why some commentators in the media seem to think this has "big implications" for the future of the Royal Family? Prince Harry was almost certainly never going to take the throne, not unless several other people died first, so surely it doesn't matter in the long run?

[Cherie]

Maybe because he thought he had to grin and bare it? Maybe because he didn't think there was any other choice? Maybe it was his child being born that had an impact on his decision. There's a lot of reasons why it might have taken him this long to make this decision.

His own words hold more weight than the gossip rags you believe are gospel purely because they reinforce your beliefs whether they're true or not.

Our hope was to continue serving the queen, the Commonwealth and my military associations without public funding. Sadly that wasn’t possible,” the prince, the sixth-in-line to the throne,

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-royals-harry/prince-harry-seeks-more-peaceful-life-as-reluctantly-ends-royal-role-idUKKBN1ZI0TF

In his own words he didn't particularly want to give up all things Royal, just the bits he didn't want to do :laugh:

[jet]

Maybe because he thought he had to grin and bare it? Maybe because he didn't think there was any other choice? Maybe it was his child being born that had an impact on his decision. There's a lot of reasons why it might have taken him this long to make this decision.

His own words hold more weight than the gossip rags you believe are gospel purely because they reinforce your beliefs whether they're true or not.

Once again, as I have stated many times, I don't read gossip rags. Do you just decide what someone does in your head and that becomes your own truth? Bizarre.

[AnnieK]

Of course they are worth more, but really, Harry says what he wants us to hear, are you that naive? It might be the truth, it might not, it might be somewhere in between....and you need to stop reading cheap rags and listening to gossip mongers, I don't.

To be fair though Jet - these are Harry's words. He is very much his own man in his last speech went against the Palace statement to some extent - I know you have researched and are likely to believe the Royal Correspondents and their views - but they are only the mouth piece of whichever Palace they tend to represent and are biased in their reporting too.

The truth is, we will never know the full and true reasons behind the decision to quit Royal life

[user104658]

I don't get why some commentators in the media seem to think this has "big implications" for the future of the Royal Family? Prince Harry was almost certainly never going to take the throne, not unless several other people died first, so surely it doesn't matter in the long run?He's the first royal to totally jack it in since it became a "celebrity thing" rather than an "official thing"... They're probably worried about it setting a precedent for future generations (Li'l George and beyond) wanting a lot more individual freedom and being more inclined to step away.

Though of course, actual direct heirs to the throne have turned it down in the past so it's hardly a new thing.

[rusticgal]

Lawyers for the couple claim these were taken without her consent - and that the photographer was hiding in the bushes and spying on her.
They also claim there were previous attempts to photograph them inside their home using long range lenses and that paparazzi were permanently camped outside their home


She looked quite happy having itaken....smiling at the cameras. She’s sending a message...it’s so obvious.

[Oliver_W]

He's the first royal to totally jack it in since it became a "celebrity thing" rather than an "official thing"...
Edward VIII and Wallace Simpson were "celebrities" - she was even an American divorced actress!

[jet]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/royal-family/harry-and-meghan-threaten-legal-action-over-canada-paparazzi-shots/ar-BBZb9mJ?ocid=spartanntp

oh dear

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex have issued a warning over continued harassment by paparazzi photographers as they start their new life in Canada out of the spotlight.
It comes after images of Meghan were published in the media showing her taking a stroll through a public park on Vancouver Island.
The duchess can be seen smiling as she walks along with Archie and her two dogs.

Lawyers for the couple claim these were taken without her consent - and that the photographer was hiding in the bushes and spying on her.
They also claim there were previous attempts to photograph them inside their home using long range lenses and that paparazzi were permanently camped outside their home

They were never going to have the same protection in Canada as they did in the UK, and when they move to LA it will be even worse. They complained about press intrusion in this country when there was none to move to a country where the same protections aren't in place.

As I've said over the last few days, Harry's 'protection' excuse makes no sense, and here is proof of that.

[jet]

To be fair though Jet - these are Harry's words. He is very much his own man in his last speech went against the Palace statement to some extent - I know you have researched and are likely to believe the Royal Correspondents and their views - but they are only the mouth piece of whichever Palace they tend to represent and are biased in their reporting too.

The truth is, we will never know the full and true reasons behind the decision to quit Royal life

Quite true Annie, but remember Royal correspondents can't tell untruths or they wouldn't be trusted go - betweens anymore. They are rarely critical of 'the other Palace' in my experience and are pretty fair. That's why I seek them out - there is no point in reading sensationalism or gossip when you can read stuff that at least has considered views and is as near as you are going to get to the truth.

[jet]

'If you don't see things from my perspective, you have a problem.'

Charming.

I don't think you can claim compassion when you're essentially using these people as tools to beat Meghan with.

At the end of the day, the documentary was about Harry and Meghan, it wouldn't have been made and if it had, people wouldn't have watched it. What they did was put a focus on Harry and Meghan because that's what people tuned in to see but they also shone light on the plight of these people and now people have heard their stories when they wouldn't have cared before.

It's the same with any documentary about humanitarian issues, there's always a notable figure or celebrity at the forefront to get people to tune in.

Just excuses, and weak ones.

[Marsh.]

Edward VIII and Wallace Simpson were "celebrities" - she was even an American divorced actress!

Edward VIII was King, a massive difference.

[Marsh.]

Of course they are worth more, but really, Harry says what he wants us to hear, are you that naive? It might be the truth, it might not, it might be somewhere in between....and you need to stop reading cheap rags and listening to gossip mongers, I don't.

And you decide to quote a correspondent (of which there are many with different and varying accounts) that allows you to believe what you want to believe. That's naive.

I don't read rags but you do listen to the gossip mongers. Calling them "correspondents" doesn't change it.

[Twosugars]

Not "respected royal correspondents" again :laugh:

Do they publish in the Daily Hail btw?

[Marsh.]

But he never left, did he? He could have gone off to his beloved S. Africa with Chelsy Davy (who came from there) when she turned him down because she didn't want to become part of the royal family and was going back home.
How do you know Meghan didn't coerce him into leaving, how do you know he isn't just doing it because she wants it? Maybe she did, maybe she didn't, but you are the one who goes on and on about factual evidence and Harry saying something isn't it.

I haven't come in here claiming to have "factual evidence". You're clutching straws.

I'm simply taking into account what has been said by Harry... about himself. Not what's been said by those claiming to read his mind.

[Marsh.]

Our hope was to continue serving the queen, the Commonwealth and my military associations without public funding. Sadly that wasn’t possible,” the prince, the sixth-in-line to the throne,

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-royals-harry/prince-harry-seeks-more-peaceful-life-as-reluctantly-ends-royal-role-idUKKBN1ZI0TF

In his own words he didn't particularly want to give up all things Royal, just the bits he didn't want to do :laugh:

How selfish of him to want to still serve the Queen, the commonwealth and his military associations without public funding! :fist:

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/B9B2/production/_110583574_thesun.jpg

Harry and Her
are angry at this Photo.
It was taken by a Canadian Photographer
using a long lens
he then sold a copy to the Sun.

Some Expert Suggested
they Build High Walls around their location
or even more Photos will be taken from Miles away.
Special Camera Lens.

[Marsh.]

She looked quite happy having itaken....smiling at the cameras. She’s sending a message...it’s so obvious.

Smiling at the camera, taken with a long lens? Really?

[jet]

And you decide to quote a correspondent (of which there are many with different and varying accounts) that allows you to believe what you want to believe. That's naive.

I don't read rags but you do listen to the gossip mongers. Calling them "correspondents" doesn't change it.

If you don't read rags how do you know whats in them? Thats quite a trick.
I haven't a clue what they say apart from seeing headlines on a shop stand.

Calling royal correspondents just gossip mongers is naive in the extreme. You really don't know how the whole thing works, do you? :hehe:

[jet]

How selfish of him to want to still serve the Queen, the commonwealth and his military associations without public funding! :fist:

There is much more to it than that, which you would know if you didn't rely on rags for your info. :shrug:

[rusticgal]

Smiling at the camera, taken with a long lens? Really?


Long lens or not she’s staring directly at the camera...How lucky and coincidental was that...:whistle:

[Marsh.]

There is much more to it than that, which you would know if you didn't rely on rags for your info. :shrug:

I don't read the rags. :shrug:

[Marsh.]

Long lens or not she’s staring directly at the camera...How lucky and coincidental was that...:whistle:

When someone is photographed looking ahead from a fair distance infront you get that result. It's not coincidence, it's just the way it is.

[jet]

I don't read the rags. :shrug:

Where do you get your impressions and views from then? Social media, twitter?
You don't often post anything of substance, which is fine, but don't criticise and insult others for looking deeper into issues that interest them.

[Marsh.]

If you don't read rags how do you know whats in them? Thats quite a trick.
I haven't a clue what they say apart from seeing headlines on a shop stand.

Calling royal correspondents just gossip mongers is naive in the extreme. You really don't know how the whole thing works, do you? :hehe:

People post articles on this forum all the time. I see them. I generally don't bother to buy, read or believe them. Not a trick, a basic fact.

What's naive is treating correspondents like impartial unbiased reporters. They're not.

[jet]

People post articles on this forum all the time. I see them. I generally don't bother to buy, read or believe them. Not a trick, a basic fact.

What's naive is treating correspondents like impartial unbiased reporters. They're not.

Where did I say they were? You won't get nearer the truth anywhere else though....nearly everything they have revealed about Harry and Meghan (like the William feud as one example) has turned out to be true.
I could cite hundreds of other examples over the years, but hey ho, they are just gossip mongers to you.

[Twosugars]

Where do you get your impressions and views from then? Social media, twitter?
You don't often post anything of substance, which is fine, but don't criticise and insult others for looking deeper into issues that interest them.

I dont see you posting any articles. How come? Scared to have your sources revealed?

[Marsh.]

Where do you get your impressions and views from then? Social media, twitter?
You don't often post anything of substance, which is fine, but don't criticise and insult others for looking deeper into issues that interest them.

Saying you believe Meghan is the antichrist because a correspondent said so is not "looking deeper into issues". A laughable comment.

I don't really care if you think what I post has substance or not tbh. :idc: I'm not here to please you.

[Marsh.]

I could cite hundreds of other examples over the years

You could, but we both know you won't.

but hey ho, they are just gossip mongers to you.

Yes they are.

[rusticgal]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/B9B2/production/_110583574_thesun.jpg

Harry and Her
are angry at this Photo.
It was taken by a Canadian Photographer
using a long lens
he then sold a copy to the Sun.

Some Expert Suggested
they Build High Walls around their location
or even more Photos will be taken from Miles away.
Special Camera Lens.


What did they expect.... They have created more public interest by doing what they are doing. Maybe it will die down...but I doubt it not for a long time.

[Marsh.]

What did they expect.... They have created more public interest by doing what they are doing. Maybe it will die down...but I doubt it not for a long time.

It will die down, and it's more likely to die down somewhere like Canada than it is over here.

[rusticgal]

When someone is photographed looking ahead from a fair distance infront you get that result. It's not coincidence, it's just the way it is.

...yes of course...it’s the way it is. Whatever was between her and the long distance camera certainly put a huge smile on her face...surprised the camera didn’t pick that up :shrug:

[Marsh.]

...yes of course...it’s the way it is. Whatever was between her and the long distance camera certainly put a huge smile on her face...surprised the camera didn’t pick that up :shrug:

Really? It's a crime for her to smile? :shrug:

So, on the one hand they have no right to be glum because kids are dying in Africa and now how dare they smile whilst walking with the baby and the dogs? :laugh:

[Liam-]

...yes of course...it’s the way it is. Whatever was between her and the long distance camera certainly put a huge smile on her face...surprised the camera didn’t pick that up :shrug:

You can’t see freedom from Piers Morgan

[rusticgal]

It will die down, and it's more likely to die down somewhere like Canada than it is over here.

They were not inundated with publicity here...it was the context they didn’t like more than anything. Maybe journalists are nicer in Canada. Maybe they only print nice things. Maybe they respect privacy and don’t use long lenses cameras :shrug:...

[rusticgal]

You can’t see freedom from Piers Morgan


...good answer but that’s a smile for someone and at someone and it’s a smile she wanted us all to see....:laugh:

[jet]

Saying you believe Meghan is the antichrist because a correspondent said so is not "looking deeper into issues". A laughable comment.

I don't really care if you think what I post has substance or not tbh. :idc: I'm not here to please you.

There you go, being the drama queen - "saying you believe Meghan is the antichrist". Which correspondent said that? :rolleyes:
You aren't helping yourself Marshy.

[jet]

I dont see you posting any articles. How come? Scared to have your sources revealed?

You think 'something of substance' means posting an article? :laugh:

[Parmy]

You think 'something of substance' means posting an article? :laugh:

In 2020:joker:

[Parmy]

I see she's still trying to keep them relevant by her actions.

[Marsh.]

They were not inundated with publicity here...it was the context they didn’t like more than anything. Maybe journalists are nicer in Canada. Maybe they only print nice things. Maybe they respect privacy and don’t use long lenses cameras :shrug:...

My point was more that Canada aren't as interested in them as here.

The photographer sold his pic to the Sun. I wonder how many Canadian publications were interested.

[Marsh.]

There you go, being the drama queen - "saying you believe Meghan is the antichrist". Which correspondent said that? :rolleyes:
You aren't helping yourself Marshy.

"Marshy"? Really? Oh, well, when you have no actual response make it about me. :laugh: Seems to be your MO.

[jet]

You could, but we both know you won't.



Yes they are.

To you, they are. I get that.
You don't have to repeat yourself every half hour. :sleep:

[Marsh.]

I see she's still trying to keep them relevant by her actions.

Ikr, what kind of ***** takes the dogs for a walk. :eek:

[Marsh.]

To you, they are. I get that.
You don't have to repeat yourself every half hour. :sleep:

You quoted me sweet cheeks, I responded to you. :pat:

[Marsh.]

...good answer but that’s a smile for someone and at someone

She wasn't on her own.

[Parmy]

Ikr, what kind of ***** takes the dogs for a walk. :eek:

I meant her actions after that event....you are perched today..you ok?

[jet]

"Marshy"? Really? Oh, well, when you have no actual response make it about me. :laugh: Seems to be your MO.

I had a response. I asked which correspondent said that, but you digressed to avoid answering.

[Marsh.]

I meant her actions after that event....you are perched today..you ok?

Perched? Are you ok?

[Marsh.]

I had a response. I asked which correspondent said that, but you digressed to avoid answering.

It's called hyperbole.

You're welcome.

[Parmy]

Perched? Are you ok?

Shh...Im not trying to draw attention to myself. ..


Unlike her...Can't even pick up the phone to the queen at a crucial time for her family. ...cause unfortunatly that is her family as I don't think hers are allowed to talk to her now?

But yeah, imagine not picking up the phone when the queen calls..diva....100% diva...**** one as well.

[Parmy]

Unfit for the royals. ..and he's to weak...hasn't got half the spunk his granny has.

[Twosugars]

You think 'something of substance' means posting an article? :laugh:

Post articles on which you base you in depth research. Why so defensive?
Or tweets, clips of interviews.

[Marsh.]

Shh...Im not trying to draw attention to myself. ..


Unlike her...Can't even pick up the phone to the queen at a crucial time for her family. ...cause unfortunatly that is her family as I don't think hers are allowed to talk to her now?

But yeah, imagine not picking up the phone when the queen calls..diva....100% diva...**** one as well.

I didn't realise you'd tapped her phone. Get tips from Piers Morgan did we? :smug:

[Parmy]

I didn't realise you'd tapped her phone. Get tips from Piers Morgan did we? :smug:

The palace confirmed she didn't take part via skype when she was supposed to during the crucial meetings.

[Twosugars]

The palace confirmed she didn't take part via skype when she was supposed to during the crucial meetings.

How do you know it was her fault?
You don't, you just want to pour your bile on her.
Disgusting.

[Marsh.]

The palace confirmed she didn't take part via skype when she was supposed to during the crucial meetings.

Well, people wanted her to ship out and let Harry deal with his own family without her poison dripping into his ear. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.