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Again you are having a Laugh.The Russians did it.
Russia, Russia, Russia
He must be impeached
Jussie, Jussie, Jussie
Somebody was having a laugh
arista
22-11-2020, 04:51 PM
Geraldo Rivera
Live on FoxNewsHD
says Biden has won.
On the Media Buzz show.
Geraldo Rivera
Live on FoxNewsHD
says Biden has won.
On the Media Buzz show.Geraldo
is deep state.
Sticks
22-11-2020, 05:10 PM
It is not up to a third rate hack like Geraldo Rivera to call an election
It will be up to the Republican controlled congress after they are given the job by the US Supreme Court
They will by law call it for Trump!
The true and legitimate winner of Election 2020, not some fraudster...
Counting votes in Germany!
arista
22-11-2020, 05:16 PM
It is not up to a third rate hack like Geraldo Rivera to call an election
It will be up to the Republican controlled congress after they are given the job by the US Supreme Court
They will by law call it for Trump!
The true and legitimate winner of Election 2020, not some fraudster...
Its all down to the Numbers
[From Inside Politics CNN HD Live
Trump's lead in 2016 over Hilary : 10,704
Biden's lead in 2020 over Trump : 154,187
Congress can not stop Biden taking full Control
in January.]
The courts do not want to hear from Trump.
Even if a few Dead folks voted
it still would not change the massive amounts
We know the reputations of the MSM ae finished.
So they no longer care.
They've gone all in and turned their cards over. There's still one card to be shown, The Trump card.
Its all down to the Numbers
[From Inside Politics CNN HD Live
Trump's lead in 2016 over Hilary : 10,704
Biden's lead in 2020 over Trump : 154,187
Congress can not stop Biden taking full Control
in January.]
The courts do not want to hear from Trump.
Even if a few Dead folks voted
it still would not change the massive amountsCNN said did they?
The same CNN that banged on about Russia for 3 and half years?
The same CNN that told us that Jussie Smollett was attacked by MAGA.
The same CNN that falsely accused that Covington
School kid of being abusive to the old native Indian American guy? When in fact it was the other way round?
The same CNN that had now jailbird Michael Avenatti on
their panel everyday and even endorseed him to run for President?
I'll do Don Lemon shortly
That CNN?
The Slim Reaper
22-11-2020, 05:29 PM
Very profound, Alfonso. Good to see you. Thought you'd been in hiding because of number 19 :smug:
This CNN?
Is this who you want me to take seriously?
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CNN are as much of a joke as fox news is, but so what. CNN didn't determine the result of the election, voters did that
The Slim Reaper
22-11-2020, 05:39 PM
CNN are as much of a joke as fox news is, but so what. CNN didn't determine the result of the election, voters did that
No they're not, and it's not even remotely close.
CNN are as much of a joke as fox news is, but so what. CNN didn't determine the result of the election, voters did thatTrump set them up, watch and learn.
GoldHeart
22-11-2020, 05:46 PM
CNN are as much of a joke as fox news is, but so what. CNN didn't determine the result of the election, voters did that
Why are CNN a joke?? ,just because Trump hates the result? .
They were reporting the election news , FACTS were FACTS .
AnnieK
22-11-2020, 05:47 PM
Trump set them up, watch and learn.
So you think the election is Trumps then?
Welcome back by the way :love:
Why are CNN a joke?? ,just because Trump hates the result? .
They were reporting the election news , FACTS were FACTS .
CNN are very biased in their reporting. As it happens, their reporting on the election is on point because, the facts are clear
Crimson Dynamo
22-11-2020, 05:49 PM
CNN are an absolute disgrace
The Slim Reaper
22-11-2020, 05:55 PM
CNN are very biased in their reporting. As it happens, their reporting on the election is on point because, the facts are clear
So they are biased when you don't like the facts, but when you agree with the facts, they are on point? Got it.
CNN are notorious bothsiders.
So you think the election is Trumps then?
Welcome back by the way :love:I watched every Trump rally and every Biden rally.
I knew who'd won then. It didn't take a genius to see that Biden was as popular as a virus, whereas Trump was the new Beatles.
Trump won in a landslide, they've had to cheat so big and that's why they're going to be caught.
They've tried telling us that despite Trump getting more than 10 million votes than he did in 2016, that somehow, sleepy Joe Biden has recieved the most votes in history.
Nicky91
22-11-2020, 05:59 PM
So they are biased when you don't like the facts, but when you agree with the facts, they are on point? Got it.
CNN are notorious bothsiders.
true, and me & my parents we got CNN on a lot, especially now coronavirus pandemic, and also elections
and yes they got people from both (democrat) and (republican) sides to discuss the elections, but also if there aren't elections, and other political stuff, from both sides
FOX News i call biased, whom usually were very pro-trump but now at the end of this election they also called Trump's actions of calling it fraud ''wrong'' some of theirs also backed away from Trump
Biden still having won Georgia despite Trump's claims say enough, ok Trump got a few more votes there but still not enough to win that one
Denver
22-11-2020, 06:05 PM
It is not up to a third rate hack like Geraldo Rivera to call an election
It will be up to the Republican controlled congress after they are given the job by the US Supreme Court
They will by law call it for Trump!
The true and legitimate winner of Election 2020, not some fraudster...
You do realise that you have just posted it up to the republicans to cheat an election?
Denver
22-11-2020, 06:06 PM
I watched every Trump rally and every Biden rally.
I knew who'd won then. It didn't take a genius to see that Biden was as popular as a virus, whereas Trump was the new Beatles.
Trump won in a landslide, they've had to cheat so big and that's why they're going to be caught.
They've tried telling us that despite Trump getting more than 10 million votes than he did in 2016, that somehow, sleepy Joe Biden has recieved the most votes in history.
America is going through a pandemic that is worse then any country, Trump asked his people to rally and its been killing them off and Biden asked his people to use their voice by voting by mail
Sticks
22-11-2020, 06:07 PM
The republicans played by the rules, it was the UNDemocratic party that cheated
America is going through a pandemic that is worse then any country, Trump asked his people to rally and its been killing them off and Biden asked his people to use their voice by voting by mailFor me to believe that, then I'd have to believe the so called pandemic is real.
Gotta say, I'm not convinced yet.
There is a way they could convince me, but they don't do it, I wonder why?
Denver
22-11-2020, 06:13 PM
Wasn't it the republicans who are trying to take a way democracy? Wasn't it the republican who asked voters to commit fraud? Wasnt it the president who was caught voting in 2 different states? Wasnt it republicans who have killed 250+ Americans by refusing to sort of a virus? Wasnt it republicans who paid people to stand up in court? Wasnr it Republicans who want a civil war?
arista
22-11-2020, 06:14 PM
The republicans played by the rules, it was the UNDemocratic party that cheated
It is all down to the Numbers.
It is that Simple
AnnieK
22-11-2020, 06:20 PM
For me to believe that, then I'd have to believe the so called pandemic is real.
Gotta say, I'm not convinced yet.
There is a way they could convince me, but they don't do it, I wonder why?
How is the pandemic not real? You really think a conservative government would sanction paying people's wages since April if it wasn't a real thing?
Forget the numbers who have died, I get that people think they have been manipulated but you really think a Tory gov would give money to the lowly working class if there wasn't a very real crisis going on?
How us the pandemic not real? You really think a conservative government would sanction paying people's wages since April if it wasn't a real thing?
Forget the numbers who have died, I get that people think they have been manipulated but you really think a Tory gov would give money to the lowly working class if there wasn't a very crisis going on?First you'd need a Conservative government for that to happen. Sadly, we have a globalist government.
Sticks
22-11-2020, 06:23 PM
The pandemic is a clear and present danger, but discussion on that should be confined to that thread.
Alf if you have an issue with the reality of the pandemic, please post about it there.
The pandemic is a clear and present danger, but discussion on that should be confined to that thread.
Alf if you have an issue with the reality of the pandemic, please post about it there.Fair point, well made, Mr Sticks. Although I was just replying to posts, I didn't bring it up in this thread.
I've forgot how to post tweets.
Is this correct? I know it's something like that.
[tweet/][tweet]
GoldHeart
22-11-2020, 08:42 PM
So they are biased when you don't like the facts, but when you agree with the facts, they are on point? Got it.
CNN are notorious bothsiders.
:joker::joker:
So they are biased when you don't like the facts, but when you agree with the facts, they are on point? Got it.
CNN are notorious bothsiders.
the meaning of what i said was clear. They are biased, but that doesn't mean that what they say is incorrect. Feel free to make up your own story though, it seems to be something you are very good at
The Slim Reaper
22-11-2020, 10:22 PM
the meaning of what i said was clear. They are biased, but that doesn't mean that what they say is incorrect. Feel free to make up your own story though, it seems to be something you are very good at
By the very nature of having people on from both sides of every argument, it's impossible for them to be biased. You can say they're not very good, and we'll be in agreement, but they're not biased.
I'm not even sure what the last sentence is supposed to mean.
Tom4784
22-11-2020, 10:27 PM
It's so sad when people are so careless with the freedoms that others have died to protect that they cheer on a loser attempting to defy the will of the people and steal an election.
GoldHeart
22-11-2020, 10:36 PM
the meaning of what i said was clear. They are biased, but that doesn't mean that what they say is incorrect. Feel free to make up your own story though, it seems to be something you are very good at
How exactly were they biased , they even have people on both sides . Aswell as impartial .
Sidney Powell: Trump legal team disavows lawyer who claimed Venezuelan communists helped rig US election...
Donald Trump’s legal team has distanced itself from attorney Sidney Powell after she spread wild conspiracy theories about election fraud.
The president’s legal team took to Twitter to distance themselves from Ms Powell, who has claimed Venezuelan communists helped to interfere in the US election, and to insist she was not working for the outgoing president.
The move came just days after Ms Powell appeared onstage with Rudy Giuliani during a bizarre press conference where the former New York City mayor also made baseless accusations of voter fraud.
“Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the president in his personal capacity,” said Mr Giuliani and Jenna Ellis in the statement.
On Saturday Ms Powell, a former federal prosecutor, claimed an upcoming Georgia election lawsuit “will be biblical” as the president’s campaign continues to try and prove its unfounded voter fraud allegations.
“Georgia's probably going to be the first state I'm gonna blow up," she said on Newsmax TV.
"We've got tons of evidence. It's so much, it's hard to pull it all together. Hopefully, this week we will get it ready to file, and it will be biblical.”
During the press conference last week Ms Powell claimed that Mr Trump had won the election by a “landslide” but had been cheated by an “algorithm” designed by Dominion Voting Systems in their ballot machines.
Ms Powell claimed that the fraud was controlled figures including George Soros, the Clinton Foundation, communists from Venezuela, Cuba and China and corrupt election officials.
She claimed the Dominion Voting Systems machines were created in Venezuela at the direction of the late Hugo Chavez so he never lost an election.
Dominion has denied the allegation and the Trump campaign has not produced any evidence to back it up.
Ms Powell’s claims were even too much for Fox News host Tucker Carlson who said she had no evidence to back them up and became embroiled in a public spat with her.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sidney-powell-trump-legal-team-235121759.html
arista
23-11-2020, 08:44 AM
Yes She was wrong to claim all that.
So she has gone.
arista
23-11-2020, 08:46 AM
I've forgot how to post tweets.
Is this correct? I know it's something like that.
[tweet/][tweet]
Click Advanced
we have a Tweet
icon, now.
user104658
23-11-2020, 09:09 AM
I think the US has an even bigger problem than Trump on its hands at this point. Trump could pop a blood vessel whilst writing an especially angry tweet and drop dead tomorrow... it's too late... it's not just that a massive chunk of the US supports Trump, he's now successfully convinced those people to stop trusting, and so effectively turn their back on, democracy as a whole.
Which is essentially the major founding principle of the entire culture.
That's nothing short of catastrophic and... well... it's done.
it depends whether it works out as being a blip or something longer term. I don't see the gop fundamentally changing the narrative, so it's not looking great for 4 years time. People will be happy enough if the country is doing well economically as that tends to override other considerations.
I also think there will be a crackdown on social media which should remove a lot of oxygen from the anarchy, but time will tell
user104658
23-11-2020, 09:35 AM
it depends whether it works out as being a blip or something longer term. I don't see the gop fundamentally changing the narrative, so it's not looking great for 4 years time. People will be happy enough if the country is doing well economically as that tends to override other considerations.
I also think there will be a crackdown on social media which should remove a lot of oxygen from the anarchy, but time will tell
If the economy does well it might calm people down as they'll see that the dire warnings were just hot air. If the economy struggles in any way I can see there being a lot of "God Emperor Trump was right!! The communists stole democracy and now we're all ruined!"
If the economy does well it might calm people down as they'll see that the dire warnings were just hot air. If the economy struggles in any way I can see there being a lot of "God Emperor Trump was right!! The communists stole democracy and now we're all ruined!"
yep, and trump will do all he can to screw the economy before leaving to make biden look as bad as possible.
user104658
23-11-2020, 09:58 AM
yep, and trump will do all he can to screw the economy before leaving to make biden look as bad as possible.
Also if vaccination programmes are a success and Covid comes way down, Trump is already setting the stage to take full credit for that with all of the "Operation Warp Speed" nonsense.
Denver
24-11-2020, 01:04 AM
GSA has finally given permission for Biden Transition to begin
arista
24-11-2020, 01:24 AM
GSA has finally given permission for Biden Transition to begin
Yes you can not blame them
[Trump tells his team to cooperate with transition but vows to keep up fight
Donald Trump's efforts to overturn his election defeat were already
struggling but now they appear to be coming to an end.]
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-tells-his-team-to-cooperate-with-transition-but-vows-to-keep-up-fight-12140737
Trump accepts transition to Biden must begin
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-55052640
...what a guy, graceful in defeat...
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She had no choice but to comply, she would have been in a lot of personal legal trouble if she had continued to obstruct the transition.
There is a part of me that wants Trump to fight to the last just to see him being dragged out of the WH on January 20th :laugh:
...I imagine that he’ll take all of the light bulbs with him when he goes, just to be difficult....
Tom4784
24-11-2020, 12:23 PM
Republicans will do what they always do, tank the economy, blame it on the next administration and then take their credit when the republicans take the white house again.
Obama inherited a global economic crisis from Bush and put the US back on track, Trump tanked it and Biden will likely fix it but Republicans will make out that the economy was his fault in the first place.
It's what the republicans (and the right wing in general) do best. Lie, project, gaslight, obstruct, these are their most reliable tools.
arista
24-11-2020, 04:56 PM
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Trump really just needs to accept defeat now and move on, it's beyond ridiculous at this point. I don't see him going broke, or/and to jail, so the best thing he can do is go live on one of his golf courses or something and stop tweeting!
The Slim Reaper
24-11-2020, 05:16 PM
It's a big lawsuit; many people are calling it the biggest lawsuit in the history of this nation. I tell you folks, people can't believe what is happening in this country with the rigged election.
https://media.tenor.com/images/e654417d359dde2aa77d993664039ced/tenor.gif
Turn it up for the people at the back.
arista
24-11-2020, 06:15 PM
Biden is Live on CNN HD
Going through his cabinet
many of them from the Obama time
like John Kerry.
Liam-
24-11-2020, 11:49 PM
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Damn, when has a republican last lost the military like that?
...so here it is, Merry Christmas...everybody’s having fun...
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Kizzy
25-11-2020, 09:21 AM
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Damn, when has a republican last lost the military like that?
The people within the military don't want sending overseas in illegal conflict, I'm glad the general public get to acknowledge their feeling on this.
It's only the MAGA crowd that relish the thought of conflict, while servicemen/women risk their lives the only risk they take is losing the TV remote down the side of the settee. ...
Nicky91
25-11-2020, 09:26 AM
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Damn, when has a republican last lost the military like that?
well Trump is no John McCain
and also didn't Trump insult McCain back when it was still recent in everyone's memories of his death
Trump called the american war dead losers on a trip to France, so that wouldn't win him any votes
Nicky91
25-11-2020, 02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1331355796773294080
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1331375444117995521
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1331376366776795138
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1331377685105262592
https://twitter.com/timruss2/status/1331447732133720064
very much truth in these thoughts yes, prominent actor (former star trek voyager star ''tuvok''), producer, musician Tim Russ his thoughts on Trump after losing the election
Denver
25-11-2020, 02:52 PM
Trump called the american war dead losers on a trip to France, so that wouldn't win him any votes
He also acted like he owned them during the protests and tried to force them to attack the public and not protect them
The Slim Reaper
25-11-2020, 02:56 PM
I think the fact that Putin put bounties on the heads of US troops, and Trump din't even talk to him about it, was a bigger issue for the military than him saying nasty things about John McCain
You lot still actually think Biden has won, don't you?
You're about to learn how corrupt and involved the main stream media is in this coup again the United States.
Denver
25-11-2020, 06:33 PM
Time for Trump to face the death penalty with his kids and wife apart from the young one social services need to take him
Time for Trump to face the death penalty with his kids and wife apart from the young one social services need to take himThe far left, people.
Nothing more than a death cult.
Denver
25-11-2020, 06:38 PM
You mean the white supremacist Trump is funding to murder people of colour
arista
25-11-2020, 06:40 PM
You lot still actually think Biden has won, don't you?
You're about to learn how corrupt and involved the main stream media is in this coup again the United States.
You said you would not back till Xmas.
And Yes Biden has Won.
You mean the white supremacist Trump is funding to murder people of colour
What about when a white cop kills a black person under Biden's power? Or would that be different?
Denver
25-11-2020, 06:42 PM
What about when a white cop kills a black person under Biden's power? Or would that be different?
Biden won't be going out of their way to justify the police like Trump has
This is the Head of state of the United States of America. Our equivalent in the UK is, Her Majesty The Queen, she's our head of state.
Just imagine if the news channels cut her off during an address to the nation (let's say her Christmas speech) and accused her of lying, but didn't say why she was lying. This is what they're doing to Trump.
You only censor people when you've got something to hide yourself. This isn't normal behaviour by news channels, they're trying to hide something from Joe public.
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You said you would not back till Xmas.
And Yes Biden has Won.
Maradona's death brought me back early, I had to pay my respects to the great man.
This is the Head of state of the United States of America. Our equivalent in the UK is, Her Majesty The Queen, she's our head of state.
Just imagine if the news channels cut her off during an address to the nation (let's say her Christmas speech) and accused her of lying, but didn't say why she was lying. This is what they're doing to Trump.
You only censor people when you've got something to hide yourself. This isn't normal behaviour by news channels, they're trying to hide something from Joe public.
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you cut away when the person is lying and it could lead to civil unrest. The queen has never interfered in politics and never will, so no-one would have a reason to cut her off
The Slim Reaper
25-11-2020, 06:56 PM
The far left, people.
Nothing more than a death cult.
He's a tory voter.
Denver
25-11-2020, 06:57 PM
Also democrats are not far left they are the centre
you cut away when the person is lying and it could lead to civil unrest. The queen has never interfered in politics and never will, so no-one would have a reason to cut her offThey're supposed to air the news, not dictate who is and isn't lying. They don't own the truth.
He's a tory voter.I think that is far left these days. They're certainly not Conservative
CINO (Conservative in name only)
Also democrats are not far left they are the centreSome are.
But then you have the likes of Bernie, AOC, Ilhan and others.
The Slim Reaper
25-11-2020, 07:11 PM
Some are.
But then you have the likes of Bernie, AOC, Ilhan and others.
Just explain their policies to us so we can all know how terrible their far left agenda is.
Just explain their policies to us so we can all know how terrible their far left agenda is.Are you gonna pay me to do your research?
Jack_
25-11-2020, 07:14 PM
Also democrats are not far left they are the centre
Centre right
I think that is far left these days. They're certainly not Conservative
CINO (Conservative in name only)
:joker:
Oliver_W
25-11-2020, 07:14 PM
You mean the white supremacist Trump is funding to murder people of colour
:joker:
what are you actually referring to?
The Slim Reaper
25-11-2020, 07:17 PM
Are you gonna pay me to do your research?
I know their policies, I just want to see how others describe a green economy, healthcare, free education and higher taxes on the wealthy. :smug:
I know their policies, I just want to see how others describe a green economy, healthcare, free education and higher taxes on the wealthy. :smug:Simple explanation.
They're nutcases.
Sticks
25-11-2020, 07:19 PM
Thanks for filling in Alf, can you fill in for a bit more, stuff happening.
The Slim Reaper
25-11-2020, 07:21 PM
Scotland doing their bit.
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Denver
25-11-2020, 07:28 PM
:joker:
what are you actually referring to?
The fact he sent tweets out saying George Floyd deserved it because he was a criminal al trying to justify what happens or we meant to forget that? Or what about the type hw told them to come to attack peaceful protestors?
The fact he sent tweets out saying George Floyd deserved it because he was a criminal al trying to justify what happens or we meant to forget that? Or what about the type hw told them to come to attack peaceful protestors?George Floyd was a recidivist, who died in Police custody, he wasn't murdered by any Policeman. Once again it was the media not being honest that led to disgusting rioting on both sides of the Atlantic.
Denver
25-11-2020, 07:48 PM
George Floyd was a recidivist, who died in Police custody, he wasn't murdered by any Policeman. Once again it was the media not being honest that led to disgusting rioting on both sides of the Atlantic.
His death autopsy came back as him being killed
Tom4784
25-11-2020, 07:56 PM
What about when a white cop kills a black person under Biden's power? Or would that be different?
Biden's not likely to incite violence, no.
arista
25-11-2020, 07:57 PM
Biden is Live on CNN HD
Tom4784
25-11-2020, 08:04 PM
Honestly, the older generations need to learn to be more discerning when it comes to what sources should be believed and discarded.
You've got so many older people believing what they read on facebook in spite of common sense, believing what they want to believe because they've lost touch with reality. No one stole the election, Donald Trump lost fair and square, and denying reality won't change it. It's so sad that these older audiences are allowing themselves to be gullible and believe the most insane bull**** because they can't cope with the truth.
These are the same people who will make a show about how much they love the military and support them, while at the same time, spitting on democracy and the rights people have died to protect and the people doing it just aren't capable of seeing the hypocrisy.
It's just grim, and oh so deeply stupid.
Biden's not likely to incite violence, no.
I mean there was lots of violence during the riots and protests i guess, yes.
Tom4784
25-11-2020, 08:24 PM
I mean there was lots of violence during the riots and protests i guess, yes.
Ah, so you're choosing to ignore the fact that Trump has inspired attacks and that his refusal to denounce the white supremacist groups has encouraged them.
trump would not like bidens thanksgiving speech
trump would not like bidens thanksgiving speechJust a smokescreen to keep your attention away from this Philadelphia senate hearing, taking place at the same time. "Don't look there, look here."
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General Flynn has been pardoned by Trump.
Just a smokescreen to keep your attention away from this Philadelphia senate hearing, taking place at the same time. "Don't look there, look here."
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i presume you are referring to the exclusively gop event held in a local hotel, which has no value under any measure
i presume you are referring to the exclusively gop event held in a local hotel, which has no value under any measureThat what they told you, did they?
We'll see, won't we?
Denver
25-11-2020, 09:55 PM
General Flynn has been pardoned by Trump.
He can pardon all of his criminal friends he wants but he is getting one
Click Advanced
we have a Tweet
icon, now.Which part of the text do you delete?
arista
26-11-2020, 12:34 AM
Michael Flynn:
Trump pardons ex-national security adviser.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55080923
arista
26-11-2020, 12:35 AM
Which part of the text do you delete?
Click the "t"
Only put the numbers in it.
Click the "t"
Only put the numbers in it. Thanks pal, I'll give it a try.
"Today, the burden off truth changed"
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user104658
26-11-2020, 01:09 AM
I'm doing a special on tinfoil hats Alf. Would you like one?
I'm doing a special on tinfoil hats Alf. Would you like one?Your insults I will take as a victory.
Why all the censoring, if there is nothing to hide?
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I can't go to bed yet, I have to see what Sidney Powell is gonna drop. I ain't missing what could be an historic moment.
Has the Kraken been unleashed? It's all very exciting.
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The Kraken has been unleashed!
Here is The Kraken. 104 pages.
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The Trump administration is trying to bring back firing squads and electrocutions for some federal executions...
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/doj-looking-to-bring-back-firing-squads-electrocutions-for-executions-2020-11
Alf, admit it, you only came back to the forum to spam right wing conspiracy theories
Alf, admit it, you only came back to the forum to spam right wing conspiracy theoriesYou're implying that the President of the United States of America is a right wing conspiracy theorist. Think about that for a moment and question if reality has left you.
I came back because my ban had finished.
You see? this is The President of the United States saying this. Just because the media is telling you different, doesn't mean they're right.
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If Trump was a fascist dictator, would Twitter be allowed to put those disputed messeges on his tweets?
Would news stations be allowed to cut him off during an address to the nation and accuse him off being a liar?
It looks to me like America and their democratically elected President are under attack.
user104658
26-11-2020, 08:22 AM
You're implying that the President of the United States of America is a right wing conspiracy theorist.
Anyone who has been paying the remotest attention to Trump's twitter feed knows that he is, indeed, a right wing conspiracy theorist. No help from the media needed... He's right there for all to see.
As are you self-admittedly Alf, the first thing you started talking about when you came back was QAnon like you thought it was some grand new discovery that people wouldn't have heard of :joker:.
Anyway. The most bizarre part of this is that they think if they win in court, Trump then wins the election. There is absolutely no way to prove which way the supposedly fraudulent votes were cast, and thus, if they get the rsultnoverturned it doesn't mean Trump wins... It means the election is null and void and they have to start over. A truly horrific outcome for the US and a constitutional catastrophe. Not good for anyone at all.
Oliver_W
26-11-2020, 08:31 AM
If Trump was a fascist dictator, would Twitter be allowed to put those disputed messeges on his tweets?
Would news stations be allowed to cut him off during an address to the nation and accuse him off being a liar?
It looks to me like America and their democratically elected President are under attack.
No-one who's sensible and/or knows what the words actually mean thinks Trump is a fascist dictator.
I don't think Trump was cheated out of a win, but I wouldn't be surprised either. Most political systems are corrupt af, but that doesn't mean corruption was the reason Trump lost, I think the reason Trump lost was ... Trump.
Anyone who has been paying the remotest attention to Trump's twitter feed knows that he is, indeed, a right wing conspiracy theorist. No help from the media needed... He's right there for all to see.
As are you self-admittedly Alf, the first thing you started talking about when you came back was QAnon like you thought it was some grand new discovery that people wouldn't have heard of :joker:.
Anyway. The most bizarre part of this is that they think if they win in court, Trump then wins the election. There is absolutely no way to prove which way the supposedly fraudulent votes were cast, and thus, if they get the rsultnoverturned it doesn't mean Trump wins... It means the election is null and void and they have to start over. A truly horrific outcome for the US and a constitutional catastrophe. Not good for anyone at all.You just make things up, don't you? What utter drivel. What Is it that makes you believe that you're in possession of the truth as to why I made a Q thread? Only I know that truth.
Who's the conspiracy theorist now?
Oliver_W
26-11-2020, 08:46 AM
It means the election is null and void and they have to start over. A truly horrific outcome for the US and a constitutional catastrophe. Not good for anyone at all.
And that probably would lead to a Trump win, because people who don't pay much attention would think he lost solely due to the fraudulent votes...
user104658
26-11-2020, 08:53 AM
You just make things up, don't you? What utter drivel. What Is it that makes you believe that you're in possession of the truth as to why I made a Q thread? Only I know that truth.
:umm2: ...
Who's the conspiracy theorist now?
Still you Alf, did you have a tough time away?
So I take it you're all going to be rejecting the evidence that's coming out, no matter what? And are putting your trust in the madia narrative? Would I be right in saying that?
user104658
26-11-2020, 08:56 AM
And that probably would lead to a Trump win, because people who don't pay much attention would think he lost solely due to the fraudulent votes...
Frankly, I think it would lead to the partial collapse of US democracy, as you couldn't run a second election without electoral reform. If Trump is successful then he is successful in demonstrating that the US electoral system is broken or at least irredeemably flawed, and running a repeat election under the same system would be pointless; it would simply be challenged, again, by the losing side.
:umm2: ...
Still you Alf, did you have a tough time away?umm indeed!
Oliver_W
26-11-2020, 09:00 AM
Frankly, I think it would lead to the partial collapse of US democracy, as you couldn't run a second election without electoral reform. If Trump is successful then he is successful in demonstrating that the US electoral system is broken or at least irredeemably flawed, and running a repeat election under the same system would be pointless; it would simply be challenged, again, by the losing side.
To be fair when Trump won through the electoral college people were calling for reform anyway, so that'd make them happy :joker:
user104658
26-11-2020, 09:00 AM
So I take it you're all going to be rejecting the evidence that's coming out, no matter what? And are putting your trust in the madia narrative? Would I be right in saying that?
If the evidence is evaluated and presented from an unbiased source then I'll certainly take it seriously. If it's coming from the Trump campaign and Republican mouthpieces then it's not so much that I'm not interested at all, as that I simply don't have the time or inclination to wade through hundreds of pages of text presented on a Republican platter.
"We have evidence!!! It was RIGGED!!" isn't news, Trump has been tweeting this since election night. If/when a court says "Umm actually they do have evidence..." and something changes, that will be news.
If the evidence is evaluated and presented from an unbiased source then I'll certainly take it seriously. If it's coming from the Trump campaign and Republican mouthpieces then it's not so much that I'm not interested at all, as that I simply don't have the time or inclination to wade through hundreds of pages of text presented on a Republican platter.
"We have evidence!!! It was RIGGED!!" isn't news, Trump has been tweeting this since election night. If/when a court says "Umm actually they do have evidence..." and something changes, that will be news.Tell me what an unbiased source is to you?
user104658
26-11-2020, 09:04 AM
No-one who's sensible and/or knows what the words actually mean thinks Trump is a fascist dictator.
Hmm, I think he would quite like to be one, I think his admiration (jealousy?) for how Kim Jong is able to rule is evident, however thus far it APPEARS that the US constitution is robust enough to stop him from actually being able to rule as an autocrat.
If Alf is right and he is indeed able to manipulate the US legal system to the extent that he's still in the White House come February, then I think he'll be further emboldened.
If the evidence is evaluated and presented from an unbiased source then I'll certainly take it seriously. If it's coming from the Trump campaign and Republican mouthpieces then it's not so much that I'm not interested at all, as that I simply don't have the time or inclination to wade through hundreds of pages of text presented on a Republican platter.
"We have evidence!!! It was RIGGED!!" isn't news, Trump has been tweeting this since election night. If/when a court says "Umm actually they do have evidence..." and something changes, that will be news.But saying that Biden is already President when officially, he isn't yet, is outright lying. Why don't you ever question that with the same passion as you have the Trump claims?
user104658
26-11-2020, 09:07 AM
Tell me what an unbiased source is to you?
There's no such thing as a totally unbiased news source however I will accept reporting of facts (actual rulings, actual things happening) from any source so long as they're verifiable. Claims and speculations are not legal rulings and so any insistence from any source about "Wot This Means" is going to be biased wishful thinking and garbage. That's on either side.
user104658
26-11-2020, 09:07 AM
But saying that Biden is already President when officially, he isn't yet is outright lying. Why don't you ever question that with the same passion as you have the Trump claims?
I literally haven't seen anyone claim that Biden is already president - unless you're confused about what the term "President Elect" means.
I literally haven't seen anyone claim that Biden is already president - unless you're confused about what the term "President Elect" means.Boris Johnson has claimed it along with some other World leaders, not all of them though. Biden has been on the phone with Johnson discussing future plans. Not to mention the media who have already called the result for Biden.
user104658
26-11-2020, 09:18 AM
Boris Johnson has claimed it along with some other World leaders, not all of them though. Biden has been on the phone with Johnson discussing future plans. Not to mention the media who have already called the result for Biden.
Yes that is how the US election system works; the associated press call the result and the assumed winner is declared President Elect which means the assumed future President of the United States. "President Elect" does not mean "Elected President" though I think the term is confusing to some people. They are not officially elected until the Electoral College meets, and they are not sitting president until January 20th. The result can change and has done in the past; this has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the associated-press-called candidate is referred to as President Elect... for example, Al Gore was President Elect.
I think maybe there's also a misconception that the associated press "calling" an election and declaring President Elect is some new or out-there thing that's just happening in 2020 "because no one likes Trump" and that they have "no right" to do so. It's been part of the US election status-quo since 1848.
"The Plot against the President" Documentary. I believe you can watch it on Amazon.
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The Slim Reaper
26-11-2020, 08:00 PM
"The Plot against the President" Documentary. I believe you can watch it on Amazon.
1295803416199835649
:joker:
I might look it up, I presume it's under comedy?
Mike Cernovich is a cook.
He starts talking around 1.50
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The Slim Reaper
26-11-2020, 08:02 PM
Boris Johnson has claimed it along with some other World leaders, not all of them though. Biden has been on the phone with Johnson discussing future plans. Not to mention the media who have already called the result for Biden.
You're going to be really pissed when you find out Flynn was fired.
:joker:
I might look it up, I presume it's under comedy?
Mike Cernovich is a cook.
He starts talking around 1.50
ge2PoPpTRn0A cook is he? What's his speciality dish?
The Slim Reaper
26-11-2020, 08:25 PM
A cook is he? What's his speciality dish?
Touche.
Touche.I was just playing, I know you meant Cuck. He gets called that by all the Qanons and far right people all the time.
He's not a popular chap with either the far left and far right.
The Slim Reaper
26-11-2020, 08:35 PM
I was just playing, I know you meant Cuck. He gets called that by all the Qanons and far right people all the time.
He's not a popular chap with either the far left and far right.
I actually meant kook. Cernovich is popular on the right.
I actually meant kook. Cernovich is popular on the right.He puts himself on the right, and yes, he has a big following. But some of those religious types detest him, call him a deep state hack, a Sleeper, I believe they call him.
To me, he's just a documentary maker and a journalist.
Tom4784
26-11-2020, 10:06 PM
People really need to stop believing crackpot conspiracy theories and just accept that Trump lost and that there isn't some grand conspiracy against the right wing.
People really need to stop believing crackpot conspiracy theories and just accept that Trump lost and that there isn't some grand conspiracy against the right wing.Is that a suggestion or an order?
Glenn.
27-11-2020, 03:24 AM
I’d say it was just asking people to actually use their brains and not buy into a floundering loser trying everything in his power to throw out the results of the most secure election ever. And it was the most secure election ever because people knew this would be the outcome should Trump lose, which he did.
arista
27-11-2020, 03:28 AM
Is that a suggestion or an order?
Its Not an Order
He is no longer Staff.
Tom4784
27-11-2020, 03:34 AM
Is that a suggestion or an order?
It's common sense.
The facts are clear, Donald Trump lost fair and square and making out that the result is wrong because the Trump cult is trying to undermine democracy and the vote to get their way.
Sometimes a vote doesn't go your way, it doesn't make it less valid.
It's common sense.
The facts are clear, Donald Trump lost fair and square and making out that the result is wrong because the Trump cult is trying to undermine democracy and the vote to get their way.
Sometimes a vote doesn't go your way, it doesn't make it less valid.If Biden has won fair and square, then why haven't the bookies paid out on him yet?
Perhaps you could possibly have a word with the bookmakers to let them know that the result is already in? People are waiting for their winnings, Christmas is around the corner!
If Biden has won fair and square, then why haven't the bookies paid out on him yet?
Perhaps you could possibly have a word with the bookmakers to let them know that the result is already in? People are waiting for their winnings, Christmas is around the corner!
The bookies don't pay out until the result is officially certified, particularly when a sore loser keeps challenging things with stupid claims. Most people accept the reality prior to the official result being certified because the result is obvious.
Sticks
27-11-2020, 05:47 AM
It's common sense.
The facts are clear, Donald Trump lost fair and square and making out that the result is wrong because the Trump cult is trying to undermine democracy and the vote to get their way.
Sometimes a vote doesn't go your way, it doesn't make it less valid.
It is the UNDemocratic Party that is undermining democracy by perpetrating electoral fraud on an industrial scale
Once this gets to the US Supreme Court with everyone of those lost cases successfully appealed, Trump will be declared the winner by congress as I described earlier and Biden will be indicted for fraud.
Donald Trump says he will leave White House if electoral college votes for Joe Biden
President’s comments are the closest he has come to admitting defeat in election and set stage for college vote on 14 December...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/donald-trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-joe-biden
this photo from yesterdays press briefing just cracks me up :laugh:
https://static.independent.co.uk/2020/11/26/22/newFile-2.jpg?width=640
joeysteele
27-11-2020, 11:37 AM
Donald Trump says he will leave White House if electoral college votes for Joe Biden
President’s comments are the closest he has come to admitting defeat in election and set stage for college vote on 14 December...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/donald-trump-says-he-will-leave-white-house-if-electoral-college-votes-for-joe-biden
He should have just left it at ' he will leave the white house .......'
Not adding any more.
Because that's what he IS going to have to do in January.
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 11:49 AM
this photo from yesterdays press briefing just cracks me up :laugh:
https://static.independent.co.uk/2020/11/26/22/newFile-2.jpg?width=640
Looks tiny, like one of those childrens activity desks.
Niamh.
27-11-2020, 11:51 AM
Looks tiny, like one of those childrens activity desks.
Suits him. He must have asked for a desk that don't make his hands look small
user104658
27-11-2020, 12:35 PM
It IS a tiny desk and chair - look at his leg, his knees are all hunched up! Who has done this :joker:.
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 12:51 PM
Suits him. He must have asked for a desk that don't make his hands look small
I expect him to lift the lid and pull out his penguin book of presidenting.
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 12:55 PM
You other brothers can't deny
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En1BJVHWMAA5q57?format=jpg&name=small
Oliver_W
27-11-2020, 01:13 PM
:joker:
Why is that desk and chair so tiny?! It looks ridiculous!
For a US president obsessed by size – his hands, his wealth, his crowds – Donald Trump made something of a bold U-turn on Thursday night by addressing the country from a desk seemingly designed for a leprechaun.
Trump said on Thursday he would leave the White House if the electoral college votes for the Democratic president-elect, Joe Biden – the closest he has come to admitting defeat – but his furniture stole the limelight.
While he harangued reporters and repeated unfounded allegations of electoral fraud, the internet zeroed in on his unusually small desk. Some called it symbolic of Trump’s diminished stature, some wondered if it was photoshopped (it wasn’t), most just laughed.
The actor Mark Hamill tweeted: “Maybe if you behave yourself, stop lying to undermine a fair election & start thinking of what’s good for the country instead of whining about how unfairly you are treated, you’ll be invited to sit at the big boy’s table.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/27/mini-desk-trump-mocked-speech-little-table-diaperdon-twitter-president-furniture
:joker:
#DiaperDon is trending on twitter :laugh:
Tom4784
27-11-2020, 03:33 PM
If Biden has won fair and square, then why haven't the bookies paid out on him yet?
Perhaps you could possibly have a word with the bookmakers to let them know that the result is already in? People are waiting for their winnings, Christmas is around the corner!
Because there's a process and a winner won't officially be confirmed until the 10th of January, I believe. The votes however have been counted and verified, and, unlike the 2016 election which had proven russian influence behind it, this election was secure.
To try to overturn the vote is to spit in the face of every person that sacrificed their health and/or lives to defend the rights of americans to vote. To go against the vote is to be opposed to democracy.
Tom4784
27-11-2020, 03:35 PM
It is the UNDemocratic Party that is undermining democracy by perpetrating electoral fraud on an industrial scale
Once this gets to the US Supreme Court with everyone of those lost cases successfully appealed, Trump will be declared the winner by congress as I described earlier and Biden will be indicted for fraud.
Okay, enemy of democracy and rights.
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 03:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En1zSkaXEAIbqju?format=jpg&name=small
user104658
27-11-2020, 03:55 PM
If Biden has won fair and square, then why haven't the bookies paid out on him yet?
Perhaps you could possibly have a word with the bookmakers to let them know that the result is already in? People are waiting for their winnings, Christmas is around the corner!Bookies won't pay out on an event until its totally over, any gambler should know that :hee:.
For some added history; they used to "call it" similar to how the media do with the presidency, and pay out when a result looked concluded, but there were a couple of incidents where they got badly burned doing that (paid out a winner, then when a result was overturned had to pay out on the other result as well) so they won't pay anything that isn't 100% finished and verified these days.
To use a smaller example; if you're in a bookies and the guy at the counter has watched the race with you, saw your horse win with his own eyes... Don't expect to be paid until the result is up in lights on the results screen. If the result isn't on the screen, it's not getting paid.
(extra extra addendum; I personally often used managers discretion to pay out smaller bets, say under £50 returns, to a good customer so long as I had seen the result for myself)
SO yeah... On this occasion, were I still in the dirty bookies, I'd probably pay you your winnings on Biden if they were under £50, but if you were collecting £500 you'd be waiting until the end of January, because the market is "Next US President" and he isn't sworn in until Jan 20th and thus the market isn't closed.
Trump contesting the race aside; anything could happen before Jan 20th. Biden could die in a car crash tomorrow.
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 04:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En1HaBFW8AAt4wI?format=jpg&name=900x900
Glenn.
27-11-2020, 04:18 PM
Aassdfghk
The Slim Reaper
27-11-2020, 05:12 PM
Don't watch this if you're either about to, or have just eaten.
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Mr Toy Soldier, I believe you had a bet on Trump four years ago? How long did it take for the bookies to pay you out?
The Trump campaign have lost their appeal in Pennsylvania and the first part of the recount in Wisconsin resulted in Biden netting a further 132 votes
joeysteele
28-11-2020, 08:57 AM
It's absolutely all over for him and the pathetic loser knows it.
He's a one term President.
The Republican party are looking ridiculous in not taking a firmer stand with him.
It could be them narrowly winning the election next time.
They should start to dissociate themselves from this would be tyrant, who has served his only real purpose.
To stop Hilary Clinton becoming President.
Time he started packing up his stuff in the White house ready to be out in January.
He surely doesn't want to have to be undignifiedly evicted from the White house as an intruder or trespasser in January.
He's done, his time over as more and more complaints are thrown out and shown to be unsubstantiated after any re-checking too.
He frankly is acting like a spoiled little brat who has just lost a game of something or had his sweets taken from him.
Niamh.
28-11-2020, 09:05 AM
The Trump campaign have lost their appeal in Pennsylvania and the first part of the recount in Wisconsin resulted in Biden netting a further 132 votes[emoji38]
It's absolutely all over for him and the pathetic loser knows it.
He's a one term President.
The Republican party are looking ridiculous in not taking a firmer stand with him.
It could be them narrowly winning the election next time.
They should start to dissociate themselves from this would be tyrant, who has served his only real purpose.
To stop Hilary Clinton becoming President.
Time he started packing up his stuff in the White house ready to be out in January.
He surely doesn't want to have to be undignifiedly evicted from the White house as an intruder or trespasser in January.
He's done, his time over as more and more complaints are thrown out and shown to be unsubstantiated after any re-checking too.
He frankly is acting like a spoiled little brat who has just lost a game of something or had his sweets taken from him.Not really, he just knows the constitution. Same as Hillary Clinton knows the constitution, which is why a few months back she told Biden not to concede if he lost.
joeysteele
28-11-2020, 09:13 AM
Not really, he just knows the constitution. Same as Hillary Clinton knows the constitution, which is why a few months back she told Biden not to concede if he lost.
She conceded in barely days.
Her example far exceeds Trump's as to having even some integrity.
She conceded in barely days.
Her example far exceeds Trump's as to having even some integrity.Trump is doing everything by the law of the land. That's the best way to do things.
joeysteele
28-11-2020, 09:21 AM
Trump is doing everything by the law of the land. That's the best way to do things.
.... and being told all is wrong and seeing it thrown out.
He knows he's out.
As a World leader he should now only really be seen as a laughing stock.
In a desperate and sad way.
All he'll probably go down in history for is him.being a shockingly bad loser who probably should never have been elected to such high office in the first place.
By the way, it's good to see you back Alf.
Really good.
.... and being told all is wrong and seeing it thrown out.
He knows he's out.
As a World leader he should now only really be seen as a laughing stock.
In a desperate and sad way.
All he'll probably go down in history for is him.being a shockingly bad loser who probably should never have been elected to such high office in the first place.
By the way, it's good to see you back Alf.
Really good.I think he's gonna be President for four more years, and go down as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. All is not what it seems at the moment, but time will make it all more clearer.
I think Trump is holding a rally today. The mainstream media will probably not show it, but they'll be a few livesteams on YouTube, if you wanted to watch it live.
arista
28-11-2020, 10:00 AM
I think Trump is holding a rally today. The mainstream media will probably not show it, but they'll be a few livesteams on YouTube, if you wanted to watch it live.
Yes amazing,
Trump
and his mega supporters
today
Black Dagger
28-11-2020, 10:22 AM
It is the UNDemocratic Party that is undermining democracy by perpetrating electoral fraud on an industrial scale
Once this gets to the US Supreme Court with everyone of those lost cases successfully appealed, Trump will be declared the winner by congress as I described earlier and Biden will be indicted for fraud.
Are you not embarrassed? You should be.
joeysteele
28-11-2020, 11:09 AM
I think he's gonna be President for four more years, and go down as one of the greatest Presidents of all time. All is not what it seems at the moment, but time will make it all more clearer.
I'll have to disagree and simply state never in a million years will that happen in my view.
I think shame more than anything else will be his legacy from his single term Presidency of a Nation being one of the World's so called strongest.
Tom4784
28-11-2020, 03:02 PM
If anyone is hoping or cheering for the idea of Trump getting another term despite losing the election, then they are opposed to democracy and to the sacrifices people have made to ensure the voting rights of americans.
It's no wonder to see the Right Wing, who so often use the military and veterans as a prop, cast aside them aside to **** all over what soldiers have fought to protect.
If anyone is hoping or cheering for the idea of Trump getting another term despite losing the election, then they are opposed to democracy and to the sacrifices people have made to ensure the voting rights of americans.
It's no wonder to see the Right Wing, who so often use the military and veterans as a prop, cast aside them aside to **** all over what soldiers have fought to protect.No! The best way to show that Trump is a criminal, is to do it in court, that way the whole World can witness it. Let's go to court to prove that the election wasn't rigged. It settles the argument once and for all, and then we might be able to get a bit of peace.
The Slim Reaper
28-11-2020, 03:30 PM
No! The best way to show that Trump is a criminal, is to do it in court, that way the whole World can witness it. Let's go to court to prove that the election wasn't rigged. It settles the argument once and for all, and then we might be able to get a bit of peace.
You can't prove a negative. It's up to the trump campaign to prove there was fraud, because "rigged" is just away to claim trump was cheated but without saying why.
You can't prove a negative. It's up to the trump campaign to prove there was fraud, because "rigged" is just away to claim trump was cheated but without saying why.But why wouldn't you want to go to court to prove Trump wrong and finally show the whole World what he is? What an opportunity?
The Slim Reaper
28-11-2020, 03:44 PM
But why wouldn't you want to go to court to prove Trump wrong and finally show the whole World what he is? What an opportunity?
Trumps claims of fraud are being proved false every day in court so no idea what you're on about. Proving that Biden didn't cheat is impossible, because as I said, you can't prove a negative. I can't prove that I don't have an invisible unicorn.
Trumps claims of fraud are being proved false every day in court so no idea what you're on about. Proving that Biden didn't cheat is impossible, because as I said, you can't prove a negative. I can't prove that I don't have an invisible unicorn.Let it play out and see what happens, me and you arguing the toss over it isn't gonna change the outcome. Should be all sorted out and
out in the open within the next 2 weeks. .
Tom4784
28-11-2020, 03:51 PM
If anything judging by the recounts showing a bigger lead than before for Biden, any kind of miscounting or shenanigans has been in favour of Trump, it's just not enough to overcome the fact that only the extremists are left on Trump's side while everyone else voted for Biden.
Tom4784
28-11-2020, 03:52 PM
It's being played out every day, Trump's cases are being thrown out for being baseless.
arista
28-11-2020, 03:54 PM
It's being played out every day, Trump's cases are being thrown out for being baseless.
Yes he lost, for sure.
Thats why he said he will leave
The Slim Reaper
28-11-2020, 03:54 PM
Let it play out and see what happens, me and you arguing the toss over it isn't gonna change the outcome. Should be all sorted out and
out in the open within the next 2 weeks. .
Are we arguing? :laugh:
Absolutely, it's all playing out as predicted. Trumps claims are being thrown out of court for a lack of evidence. I was just responding to the "prove biden isn't a cheat" bit, because it's a false question/statement.
It's being played out every day, Trump's cases are being thrown out for being baseless.Well there you go then, you have nothing to worry about, you can sit back and relax.
Are we arguing? :laugh:
Absolutely, it's all playing out as predicted. Trumps claims are being thrown out of court for a lack of evidence. I was just responding to the "prove biden isn't a cheat" bit, because it's a false question/statement.Yes! but not in the way you probably think I mean it. An argument can mean a discussion. An exchange of opinions. Arguments don't always have to be heated.
Sticks
28-11-2020, 04:37 PM
Trumps claims of fraud are being proved false every day in court so no idea what you're on about. Proving that Biden didn't cheat is impossible, because as I said, you can't prove a negative. I can't prove that I don't have an invisible unicorn.
Those throwing out the cases are the lower courts.
Every case is to be appealed to the US Supreme court where Trump has the better chance of winning, since the conservatives are in the majority.
And to repost this from 08 November
"Looks like this (election) could go to the Supreme Court and they could rule that the election is invalid due to fraud or mistakes on a country wide scale. It will go one of two ways...
1. They rule all unconstitutional mail in ballots will be removed and the states ordered to recount without them or
2. They will simply rule the election is invalid due to mass voter fraud.
And at that point it will be sent to the Congress and the Senate for a vote. This is where it gets good. Next The house/congress votes on who the President will be. It has nothing to do with what party that has power. Every State gets one vote and 30 States are held by Republicans and 19 by Democrats. They have to vote down party lines, they have no choice due to the 12th Amendment of the Constitution and the Senate votes for the Vice President where a similar even will take place. This is The law. This is why the Democrats are so mad at Nancy Pelosi. This will all happen in January. The only way President Trump won’t be President is if he concedes the election and that will never happen. So stop watching the fake news and don’t let your heart be troubled and live your life knowing this will all work out.
Remember in 2000 they called Gore the President Elect for 30 days until the courts ruled against him and declared Bush the winner. And two people that were part of that decision was none other that new Supreme Court Justices, Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett. Why do you think the Democrats tried so hard to keep them from being confirmed.""
Trump wins.
Biden loses.
Simples!!!
Sticks
28-11-2020, 04:48 PM
Yes! but not in the way you probably think I mean it. An argument can mean a discussion. An exchange of opinions. Arguments don't always have to be heated.
This reminds me of this
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This reminds me of this
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arista
28-11-2020, 08:21 PM
Those throwing out the cases are the lower courts.
Every case is to be appealed to the US Supreme court where Trump has the better chance of winning, since the conservatives are in the majority.
And to repost this from 08 November
Trump wins.
Biden loses.
Simples!!!
You are Wrong
Biden Wins
SherzyK
29-11-2020, 03:57 AM
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Our Donnie is just loved Worldwide.
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What was in the envelopes?
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arista
29-11-2020, 10:15 AM
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arista
29-11-2020, 03:53 PM
Trump is Live on the Phone
to FoxNewsHD
He had been babbling away about stopping M13 terrorists
Maria is saying to him
you will lose the supreme Court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-13
But Trump keeps going about all the Hispanics that back him.
He just's need to check the real time numbers
arista
30-11-2020, 01:58 PM
Joe Biden: President-elect fractures foot while playing with his dog
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55127559
Put the old fella in a Wheelchair.
The Slim Reaper
30-11-2020, 01:59 PM
55,000 conspiracy theories incoming about Biden having paedophilic ankle cancer :laugh:
Glenn.
30-11-2020, 03:57 PM
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It’s so satisfying watching him humiliate these idiots
Arizona hearing
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The President, phones in.
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I'll show you the hearing, because the MSM probably won't. I think, for some reason they want to hide it from people and keep them ignorant, maybe, who knows?
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More witness evidence from the Arizona hearing.
The hearing went on for ten hours.
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joeysteele
01-12-2020, 08:30 AM
Sheer desperation.
In the end, the results will be confirmed and this pathetic one term President out.
There may well be units of issues on voting, as in likely all elections.
A tiny element.
The Florida votes in 2000 were a matter of units to a few hundred votes either way for Gore and Bush.
That went on so long it had to be finally concluded by a court.
Thousands of votes difference is an entirely different situation as to winning margins as in the States in this election.
This bad loser will dig out any to say anything to be able to moan for the rest of his life, totally wrongly, that he was robbed of a second term.
When in fact he is the one who created the chaos in the first place.
The sooner January comes and this pompous bigoted creep is consigned to US political history, the better for the USA and likely around most of the World too.
user104658
01-12-2020, 09:18 AM
These are all witnesses and experts called by the Trump legal team, there's really nothing interesting to be seen unless independent witnesses and analysts are called.
You only need to watch a couple of Netflix courtroom documentaries to know that.
Each side will present very convincing, concrete-seeming evidence that will turn all sorts of heads, that completely contradicts the other side's very convincing, concrete-seeming evidence that turned all sorts of heads.
At the end of the day, sometimes you just have to accept that it was A GODDAMN OWL OK???
Nicky91
01-12-2020, 09:23 AM
Sheer desperation.
In the end, the results will be confirmed and this pathetic one term President out.
There may well be units of issues on voting, as in likely all elections.
A tiny element.
The Florida votes in 2000 were a matter of units to a few hundred votes either way for Gore and Bush.
That went on so long it had to be finally concluded by a court.
Thousands of votes difference is an entirely different situation as to winning margins as in the States in this election.
This bad loser will dig out any to say anything to be able to moan for the rest of his life, totally wrongly, that he was robbed of a second term.
When in fact he is the one who created the chaos in the first place.
The sooner January comes and this pompous bigoted creep is consigned to US political history, the better for the USA and likely around most of the World too.
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Kizzy
01-12-2020, 11:58 AM
Ugh. .. I bet she can't wait to get the heck out of there.
'Be best' wtf
user104658
01-12-2020, 12:53 PM
There may well be units of issues on voting, as in likely all elections.
A tiny element.
Exactly, they're looking for voting irregularities with a magnifying glass which OF COURSE there will be when you're talking about over 150 million votes! A small margin of error is inevitable in any such election. But they're zooming in on that small number of examples and trying to use it to cast "reasonable doubt" over the entire election. Any losing candidate in history could have done the same... they just usually don't do it because they have some concept of humility and dignity. Trump has neither. He isn't capable of feeling embarrassment. When people laugh at him, he doesn't look inwards and feel embarrassed, he looks outwards in anger and starts lashing out / mocking.
joeysteele
01-12-2020, 12:58 PM
Exactly, they're looking for voting irregularities with a magnifying glass which OF COURSE there will be when you're talking about over 150 million votes! A small margin of error is inevitable in any such election. But they're zooming in on that small number of examples and trying to use it to cast "reasonable doubt" over the entire election. Any losing candidate in history could have done the same... they just usually don't do it because they have some concept of humility and dignity. Trump has neither. He isn't capable of feeling embarrassment. When people laugh at him, he doesn't look inwards and feel embarrassed, he looks outwards in anger and starts lashing out / mocking.
I agree with all that TS.
The Slim Reaper
01-12-2020, 01:00 PM
Exactly, they're looking for voting irregularities with a magnifying glass which OF COURSE there will be when you're talking about over 150 million votes! A small margin of error is inevitable in any such election. But they're zooming in on that small number of examples and trying to use it to cast "reasonable doubt" over the entire election. Any losing candidate in history could have done the same... they just usually don't do it because they have some concept of humility and dignity. Trump has neither. He isn't capable of feeling embarrassment. When people laugh at him, he doesn't look inwards and feel embarrassed, he looks outwards in anger and starts lashing out / mocking.
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Believe it or not, years ago, CNN did actually used to be a news channel.They're not that interested in a similar story these days, they got bigger fish to fry.
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Denver
01-12-2020, 02:08 PM
A lot of states have recounted and certified Bidens win
Tom4784
01-12-2020, 02:22 PM
It just shows how the right wing are dependant on it's followers being gullible sheep, really. The facts say it's a comfortable Biden win but as long as their right wing overlords tell them it's a fix, a conspiracy, these people will ignore common sense to believe it.
Grown adults, believing in fairy tales because it's preferable to reality. It's just endlessly grim. Why are the right wing so incapable of accepting reality?
Trump now has as many flagged tweets as he does electoral college votes :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
01-12-2020, 02:33 PM
Trump now has as many flagged tweets as he does electoral college votes :laugh:
This just shows Trump was right about big tech rigging this thing for biden - trumpists everywhere.
The Slim Reaper
01-12-2020, 04:04 PM
It's what every innocent man does
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Michigan senate hearing, live, if you want to watch.
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arista
01-12-2020, 05:54 PM
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Trump Winning in 2016.
BBC Jonathan Pie (Tom Walker)
arista
01-12-2020, 10:41 PM
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arista
02-12-2020, 02:27 AM
Hannity
Live FoxNewsHD
had 3 People that watched real voter Fraud.
So Bloody What.
It is not enough Fraud to change the Result.
Hannity
Live FoxNewsHD
had 3 People that watched real voter Fraud.
So Bloody What.
It is not enough Fraud to change the Result.So, a little bit of fraud is OK? especially when you win?
arista
02-12-2020, 02:40 AM
So, a little bit of fraud is OK? especially when you win?
No Alf
any Fraud must go out in the open.
But the amount is so low.
Biden is ahead of Trump
in Millions.
Trump gained more for his party
But Biden overtook him.
Joe Biden will be President in January 2021
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