USA : President Joe Biden 3rd Nov 2020

[Oliver_W]

has sleepy joe emerged from his bunker yet?

:joker:

He popped out to say all black people are the same.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-faces-backlash-comparing-diversity-african-american-latino/story?id=72218939

[arista]

He popped out to say all black people are the same.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-faces-backlash-comparing-diversity-african-american-latino/story?id=72218939



Thanks for posting the link
Stupid Biden


He will be 78 years old if he becomes President.

[Oliver_W]

Thanks for posting the link
Stupid Biden


He will be 78 years old if he becomes President.

I'm sure he'll be 78 even if he doesn't become president.

Trump is hardly young either.

[MTVN]

Not to mention his excruciating answer to whether he'd taken a cognitive test which was doing the rounds the other day

Polls have started narrowing in the last couple of weeks and there's a long way to go

[Liam-]

I think people are purposely confusing a speech impediment with cognitive decline, he’s spoken in the past about his struggles with a stutter and going though speech therapy

Sarah Sanders has to publicly apologise because she mocked his occasional word trip and not being able to get his words out, the narrative that he’s losing his mind is in complete bad faith

[MTVN]

I think people are purposely confusing a speech impediment with cognitive decline, he’s spoken in the past about his struggles with a stutter and going though speech therapy

Fair enough although the 'are you a junkie' was also a bit weird

[Oliver_W]

I think people are purposely confusing a speech impediment with cognitive decline, he’s spoken in the past about his struggles with a stutter and going though speech therapy

Sarah Sanders has to publicly apologise because she mocked his occasional word trip and not being able to get his words out, the narrative that he’s losing his mind is in complete bad faith

I agree, as I've said before looking and sounding "old" makes what would seem like working through a stammer for a younger person makes him look and sound confused. He's probably not going senile. Maybe he should use bluster and bombast, and boast about acing a dementia test.

[Oliver_W]

Is running mate the same as VP?

[Liam-]

Is running mate the same as VP?

Yes

[Oliver_W]

I'm watching the news now, they said the impeachment manager (or whatever) who was there for Trump's hearings is on Biden's shortlist. It'd be sweetly fitting if she got the VP pick, Biden won and kicked it soon after, and she replaced Trump :joker:

But I still get the feeling Trump's gonna win...

[Tom4784]

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Anyone supporting Trump while suggesting that Biden's mind is going are gigantic ****ing hypocrites considering who they are choosing to throw their support behind.

[Beso]

Biden's had surgery to control his urges..

[Beso]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/9F52/production/_112968704_biden_vp_contenders_index_promo_976.png


Biden is taking his time
to pick a V. P.

He will pick whichever one excuses his urges...just like slymond did with spewrgion.

[user104658]

But I still get the feeling Trump's gonna win...

I'm edging that way too at this point, I have to say. Dems are looking over-confident and that cost them badly last time around, when they had a MUCH larger on-paper advantage.

[Brother Leon]

I would be surprised if Trump does it tbh. A lot can change, but the last few months have been a disaster for him. He’s even starting to lose the White Female vote, which was surprisingly huge for him last time out.

[Ammi]

Trump rape allegation: Judge refuses president's request to delay defamation suit brought by E Jean Carroll...




A New York judge has dismissed president Donald Trump’s attempt to delay a defamation lawsuit brought against him by a woman who accused him of rape.

The decision, released on Thursday, states that the presidency does not shield him from the case.

Writer E Jean Carroll is suing Mr Trump for defamation after he denied her allegations that he raped her in a New York department store in the mid-1990s and called her a liar.

The Trump legal team argues that an appeals court decision for a similar lawsuit would determine whether state courts have jurisdiction over the president while he is in office.

..rest of the article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/trump-rape-allegation-judge-refuses-145835648.html

[Tom4784]

Trump has a waiting room of victims at this point. An utter monster.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee8K9HaXsAI2loC?format=jpg&name=medium

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee8K9HaXsAI2loC?format=jpg&name=medium

Let's not forget that any black Trump voters are obviously Uncle Toms with no thoughts of their own :rolleyes:

[bots]

the fact that a single supporter has to be highlighted with a photograph says it all does it not?

[The Slim Reaper]

People will always happily vote against their own interests, as long as they believe their vote projects an image of them into the world.

[Oliver_W]

People will always happily vote against their own interests, as long as they believe their vote projects an image of them into the world.

How would a Trump presidency go against the interests of some random woman?

[The Slim Reaper]

How would a Trump presidency go against the interests of some random woman?

Well his economic policies are skewed purposefully towards the wealthy. He tried twice to take healthcare away from people, losing by a single vote. He's rolling back all environmental protections, and we know that climate change adversely affects those who aren't uber wealthy, the most.

He's currently trying to bribe the US with a payroll tax holiday until January, well the payroll tax pays for social security and medicare, taking away more health protections from people, especially as they age and become more reliant on governmental help.

He's stripped power away from all the intelligence agencies, making them more susceptible to terrorist attacks, and he refuses to act of white supremacist terrorism which is the biggest threat to Americans, especially those who are non-white.

I could write page after page on the destruction Trump has caused, but I shouldn't have to.

[Oliver_W]

Well his economic policies are skewed purposefully towards the wealthy. He tried twice to take healthcare away from people, losing by a single vote. He's rolling back all environmental protections, and we know that climate change adversely affects those who aren't uber wealthy, the most.

He's currently trying to bribe the US with a payroll tax holiday until January, well the payroll tax pays for social security and medicare, taking away more health protections from people, especially as they age and become more reliant on governmental help.

He's stripped power away from all the intelligence agencies, making them more susceptible to terrorist attacks, and he refuses to act of white supremacist terrorism which is the biggest threat to Americans, especially those who are non-white.

I could write page after page on the destruction Trump has caused, but I shouldn't have to.

Maybe the woman in the picture is really rich, has an amazing healthcare plan, and owns a business which woukd be negatively affected by environmental reform :shrug: we don't know anything about her, maybe Trump would be for her best interests.

[The Slim Reaper]

Maybe the woman in the picture is really rich, has an amazing healthcare plan, and owns a business which woukd be negatively affected by environmental reform :shrug: we don't know anything about her, maybe Trump would be for her best interests.

That's why I made my original post generic.

[Tom4784]

Let's not forget that any black Trump voters are obviously Uncle Toms with no thoughts of their own :rolleyes:

Such a bad faith statement, you shouldn't knowingly misquote an argument to discredit it, that's weak. Who said they have no thoughts of their own? The likes of Candace Owens do it purely for financial benefit because being a right wing commentator that's also a minority is a profitable position to have since the right wing are desperate for tokens to be like 'Look! We have a non-white/LGBT/female person agreeing with us, we aren't racist/homophobic/sexist!'

When it comes to Trump voters, they vote for him out of pure ignorance. Nothing Trump has done has benefited anyone that isn't mega rich. Yet people in the middle and working class will continue to be his main base because his racism appeals to them, because they've deluded themselves into thinking he is benefitting them when he's only eroding their quality of life but he hates mexicans and black people so it's K.

[Shaun]

I think it's only inevitable that generations of failings under democratic presidents to really bring meaningful change or equality to black (or other minority) people in America would result in some crossing party lines and looking elsewhere, but aside from from a business perspective there's little positive change to be made there.

[bots]

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[Oliver_W]

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:joker: I wonder if he ever complained about hypocrisy too?

[Tom4784]

Everything he does is projection. He constantly accuses people of stuff that he is doing himself.

[Liam-]

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[Ammi]

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...he still hasn’t apologised or said he was wrong for putting out a newspaper ad, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5...he shows no feeling for supporting death of 5 innocent men...


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[Denver]

Trump has claimed the 1918 Spanish Flu is the reason WWII ended

[Oliver_W]

Trump has claimed the 1918 Spanish Flu is the reason WWII ended

:joker:

Bloody hell, what kind of idiot doesn't know the dates for the world wars...

[Ammi]

:joker:

Bloody hell, what kind of idiot doesn't know the dates for the world wars...

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vR3EssQ5ALagr7y/giphy.gif

[user104658]

Spanish flu (or at least, the severity of Spanish flu) was caused BY World War I! How much more wrong could be stuffed into one statement?

[Oliver_W]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vR3EssQ5ALagr7y/giphy.gif

Oh yes, that one :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Trump the feminist.

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[Tom4784]

Yes, he only sexually assaults women because he admires them sooo much.

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...very sad that Donald Trump’s younger brother has died...71yrs old is quite a young age as well.../...it hasn’t been reported the cause of death but apparently there was illness, it wasn’t sudden...for anyone, losing a sibling is an awful thing...but a younger sibling has that extra bite of sadness, I think...poor Donald...:sad:...

[arista]

Tonight Live from 2AM
it's the Virtual Dems Conference
on CNN HD UK

I would record these in normal times
but screens with errors
and bad sound pick up
put me right off.

[Ammi]

...I watched a video clip with Michelle Obama saying why she wants Biden to win...I don’t know how to post it as it’s not a YouTube vid, it was just on my newsfeed thing...this is what she said, it’s only a small clip...


..’...he’s a decent man, guided by faith...he was a terrific Vice President...he knows what it takes to rescue an economy, beat back a pandemic and lead our country...and he listens, he will tell the truth and trust science...he will make smart plans and manage a good team and he will govern as someone who has lived a life that the rest of us can recognise...’....

[Ammi]

...oh it was at the Democratic Convention, she said that...lots of election support there I expect, it’s a convention...

[arista]

...oh it was at the Democratic Convention, she said that...lots of election support there I expect, it’s a convention...


Yes but Biden is not travelling.
It's a Virtual convention this week


Trump did several Airport hangers
Live on FoxNewsHD
One was featured on NewsnightHD BBC2


Its only just gone 10PM
in the California Zone.

[Ammi]

...I think this is all heading toward your ‘promised land’, Arista...the virtual world of less human and more technology/robots etc...and obviously your bunker as well...you had this vision, you’re most wise, Arista...

[bots]

the republican convention will be virtual too. It's madness to have anything else in the usa at the moment.

[arista]

The republican convention will be virtual too. It's madness to have anything else in the USA at the moment.


Of Course
But they are not doing Taped speeches.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1195F/production/_114013027_guardianfront1908.jpg

[Josiah.]

And according to the news outlets here in the US, Joe Biden has been formally nominated as the Democratic presidential nominee. He surpassed the required 2,374 delegates during the virtual roll call earlier on tonight.

[Swan]

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insight/specials/politics/20200817-us-presidential-election-odds-trump-gaining-on-biden-now-as-close-as-its-been-in-2-months

Trump gaining on Biden. Knew this would happen after the Harris VP appointment!

[arista]

https://www.oddschecker.com/us/insight/specials/politics/20200817-us-presidential-election-odds-trump-gaining-on-biden-now-as-close-as-its-been-in-2-months

Trump gaining on Biden. Knew this would happen after the Harris VP appointment!


Yes last nights Daily Show on UK Comedy Central HD
used Sports to say wait for the last numbers
it is too early to count Trump Out.

[bots]

i think Bill Clinton lecturing Trump on how to behave in the Whitehouse is one of my particular favourites :laugh:

[Liam-]

Sure odds don’t actually mean anything? It’s just a reflection on who people think will win?

[Swan]

Sure odds don’t actually mean anything? It’s just a reflection on who people think will win?

They got it wrong last time, they wont get it wrong this time. If his odds are shortening, that means a lot.

[Beso]

Can you bet on the election result if you live on america?

[Beso]

https://youtu.be/xSWXWKEfLro

[Swan]

https://youtu.be/xSWXWKEfLro

Wow!

Two elections in a row, both choices are terrible!

[Beso]

Wow!

Two elections in a row, both choices are terrible!

Have you seriously never seen that video before?

[Swan]

Have you seriously never seen that video before?

Nope!

I was astounded it only had 50k views, being 18 months old n'all.

Im not a fan of Trump, but if it was the other way round that video would have been covered by mainstream media and gained millions and millions of views by now.

[Beso]

Nope!

I was astounded it only had 50k views, being 18 months old n'all.

Im not a fan of Trump, but if it was the other way round that video would have been covered by mainstream media and gained millions and millions of views by now.


The whole mess of everything these days just makes me shiver..

[Tom4784]

You can never count out stupidity, sadly. There are lots of morons in the US who will disregard everything that's happened in the past four years. I've seen so many morons link to pictures of derelict buildings and be like 'this is a future under a democrat president!' when it's a picture from the past four years...

As long as he keeps being a racist piece of ****, other racist pieces of **** will cheer him on regardless of how his reign has affected them thus far because these people will cut off their nose to spite their face, they don't care what they lose just as long as the other side has it slightly worse.

People like that shouldn't be allowed out without a responsible adult.

[Swan]

Are you saying every person this election (and in 2016) who will/have vote for Trump because they're racist?

[Tom4784]

Are you saying every person this election (and in 2016) who will/have vote for Trump because they're racist?

Yes, anyone who votes for Trump in this election after four years of wanton corruption, racism, stupidity and incompetence from Trump is a racist because at this point, they're only voting for him because they feel like he validates their hatred.

I'd give some of his voters in 2016 a pass for being dumb and gullible and realising their mistakes too late but anyone who would support or vote for him now after everything that has happened is a racist.

[bots]

a lot of people voted for trump in 2016 because they didn't like Clinton, they could easily have the same opinion about Biden, nothing to do with racism

[Beso]

The reason trump won the last election is because the dems support was far too lazy or sexist to vote.

[Oliver_W]

I think the main reason Trump won the previous election was a combination of Clinton being so weird and dislikeable, along with "Joanna and Cletus" wanting a change from horrible Establishment hacks. If you cut Hillary in half, all the demons that power her would escape it'd say ESTABLISHMENT right through the middle like a stick of rock.

Biden is another living embodiment of the Establishment, so it depends what page "Joanna and Cletus" are on regarding that sort of thing. Bernie could easily steamroll Trump tbh. But Biden? If he can manage to string a complete sentence together he might do well in debates, I guess.

To say or think the only reason anyone would vote for Trump is because they're "racists" is a bit naive and childish tbh.

[Ammi]

..it’s interesting why people vote, I think...I do think that prejudice was a factor with some Trump votes...but I’m not sure that it was mostly race prejudice ...it’s true that Hilary wasn’t a great candidate...(..as Biden isn’t either...)..so it’s easy to pick valid flaws in terms of them as a potential President as well..with Hilary, though...she is also female...so I’m not sure that some voters just didn’t see her as a leader in a politically more male world as well, Trump was their MAN...Obviously there are females in that world, but relatively few compared to males....and was that a factor for voters as well...still an ‘ist’ but a different ‘ist’...it’s a complicated thing really...because there are many reasons why Biden wouldn’t be a great choice either...and so far as I’ve seen her, Kamala Harris hasn’t really gripped me as a choice for VP/...her political history so far and abilities etc...but is that why this may have been ‘..a step too far and that will maybe lose it for Biden..’...or is it because she’s a female and scrutinised much more closely, possibly...

...that’s a genuine pondering...

[arista]

a lot of people voted for trump in 2016 because they didn't like Clinton, they could easily have the same opinion about Biden, nothing to do with racism

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ef1Cfp8XkAIwtR4?format=jpg&name=small

[Tom4784]

a lot of people voted for trump in 2016 because they didn't like Clinton, they could easily have the same opinion about Biden, nothing to do with racism

Nah, plenty of people don't like Biden, myself included but that doesn't mean they'd vote in a racist maniac again. The only reason why people vote for Trump after four years of his reign is because they like his racism. There's absolutely no other reason to vote for him.

In 2016, that excuse was fair enough because people didn't know how bad he'd truly be but if anyone still votes for Trump in 2020 then they are validating his racism and likely support it.

People who support and vote Trump now are simply racist.

[Tom4784]

The reason trump won the last election is because the dems support was far too lazy or sexist to vote.

Hillary won the popular vote so you're wrong there.

[Oliver_W]

Can you spoil ballots in the USA? That'd be best option from those two.

[bots]

if it's a choice between someone who is hell bent on destroying democracy or someone who already served for 8 years, I know which I would pick, even if I didn't like either of them

[Crimson Dynamo]

NIgel Farage has predicted a TRUMP win just like he did the time before

:thumbs:

[Tom4784]

Can you spoil ballots in the USA? That'd be best option from those two.

That would essentially be a vote for Trump. The more people that don't vote or that waste their vote, the better Trump's chances are.

This isn't a case of both sides being as bad as each other, there's one clear worse option here so I truly have no time for false centrism when the choice should be clear.

[user104658]

Hm. Whether or not you have to be racist to vote for Trump this time around is a debatable subject I think. However... what really is not debateable at this point is, if you vote for Trump, you are voting against the very concept of democracy. His tactics over the last few months have made his intention to manipulate, cheat and erode democratic process so crystal clear that I don't buy that anyone voting for him doesn't realise that if he wins, he will spend the next 4 years doing more of the same, turning America's already-flimsy democracy into a complete pantomime.

The Democratic People's Republic of America.

[Oliver_W]

That would essentially be a vote for Trump. The more people that don't vote or that waste their vote, the better Trump's chances are.

This isn't a case of both sides being as bad as each other, there's one clear worse option here so I truly have no time for false centrism when the choice should be clear.

I'm not even a centrist, I'm a don't-care-ist :joker: we're living in clown world now, neither one is amazing so who cares? Bernie would take Trump to the cleaners, but the Dems signed away their chances by picking someone so bland and creepy.

Trump's stupidity and ineptitude is unintentionally funny, so there's a point for him; Biden winning would give actual comedians something else to joke about, so that'd be nice.

[Swan]

To say every single person who votes for Trump is a racist is just plain ridiculous.

[Beso]

I'm not even a centrist, I'm a don't-care-ist :joker: we're living in clown world now, neither one is amazing so who cares? Bernie would take Trump to the cleaners, but the Dems signed away their chances by picking someone so bland and creepy.

Trump's stupidity and ineptitude is unintentionally funny, so there's a point for him; Biden winning would give actual comedians something else to joke about, so that'd be nice.

I've been told paedophillia ain't funny.

[Oliver_W]

I've been told paedophillia ain't funny.

I'm sure there's more about Biden to joke about.

[Tom4784]

I'm not even a centrist, I'm a don't-care-ist :joker: we're living in clown world now, neither one is amazing so who cares? Bernie would take Trump to the cleaners, but the Dems signed away their chances by picking someone so bland and creepy.

Trump's stupidity and ineptitude is unintentionally funny, so there's a point for him; Biden winning would give actual comedians something else to joke about, so that'd be nice.

There's a clear difference between the two and if you choose not to see that and pretend they are both the same, you are choosing to support the status quo and thus, you're choosing to support Trump.

Let's see how 'funny' you find Trump when he's utterly ****ing our country when we have to beg him for a deal after Brexit.

[Tom4784]

To say every single person who votes for Trump is a racist is just plain ridiculous.

I couldn't care less. There is legitimately no other reason for people to vote for Trump other than that they feel his racism validates theirs', they see him as a champion for their bigotry.

In 2016, the disinformation train was in full swing but this time, the world knows what a Trump presidency is like so there's no excuse to vote for him now. He's a threat to democracy and the world at this point and he's proven himself to be dangerously incompetent and sociopathic on frequent basis.

Instead of defending people who would **** over the world just for the idea that they could be as racist as they want without repercussions, you should ask yourself why you're trying to paint yourself as a centrist when you defend one side a lot more than the other.

[Kizzy]

:clap1: :clap1:

[Swan]

I couldn't care less. There is legitimately no other reason for people to vote for Trump other than that they feel his racism validates theirs', they see him as a champion for their bigotry.

In 2016, the disinformation train was in full swing but this time, the world knows what a Trump presidency is like so there's no excuse to vote for him now. He's a threat to democracy and the world at this point and he's proven himself to be dangerously incompetent and sociopathic on frequent basis.

Instead of defending people who would **** over the world just for the idea that they could be as racist as they want without repercussions, you should ask yourself why you're trying to paint yourself as a centrist when you defend one side a lot more than the other.

I've never voted, left or right (not that i could in the US). So it doesn't really make me anything according to US politics. I've never defended people who may vote for Trump or Biden, im merely stating that it's a ridiculous assumption to say every Trump voter is a 'racist' because it's simply not true.

You also say he's a threat to democracy, but the US is a voting democracy.

I have never, ever defended Trump, go through every single one of my posts, im actually against Trump. But to not let hatred and emotion get the better of me i see the bigger picture. Biden, like Trump is a creep, and his appointment of Harris was beyond stupid. Harris is bad news, a very narrow minded and 'out for ones own gain' type of person. Kinda reminds me of Trump!

You can fight fire with fire all you like, Biden chose fire, he chose what he thought would gain him the 'black vote'. It's backfiring and so it should.

You can carry on blaming 'centralism' as an excuse to be a closet right winger, but at the end of day both choices are awful, truly awful. Shout and swear all you like, but politics is the art of the possible. Play the game. Because that's all this is, two huge ego's battling one another. Who wins? WE DON'T DECIDE!

[Ammi]

...I don’t think Biden is a great candidate but he’s the only choice there is to not have Trump...and although we in the U.K. have no choice because we have no vote...the leader of the USA has never had such direct importance...(...other than the obvious importance worldwide..)...because of the upcoming Brexit and trade and essential trade deals...Biden is an unknown, for sure...but Trump has shown his unpredictability and his potential for childish and ‘whim’ behaviour...

[Swan]

If i had a vote, if i HAD to vote it would go to Biden. The lesser of two evils if you will. Doesn't change the fact that not every Trump supporter is a racist. Good, honest people (who may be on the fence) have a real tough decision to make this time round. Both candidates are repulsive imo.

[Ammi]

...Biden isn’t a great choice to be given for sure...but I can’t really think, ‘repulsive’, just because I haven’t seen repulsive, you know...whereas with Trump, well...I’ve seen with my eyes and with my ears and with my heart...a very dangerous man who would also put children in cages...for me personally, if I were a voter...?...my decision would be made in a split second and there would never be a thought of a ‘no vote’...not ever...

[Swan]

...Biden isn’t a great choice to be given for sure...but I can’t really think, ‘repulsive’, just because I haven’t seen repulsive, you know...whereas with Trump, well...I’ve seen with my eyes and with my ears and with my heart...a very dangerous man who would also put children in cages...for me personally, if I were a voter...?...my decision would be made in a split second and there would never be a thought of a ‘no vote’...not ever...

The video posted here a couple days ago of Biden all over young girls, sniffing them almost groping them was repulsive imo. Who will run the US better, Biden probably, so again the 'lesser of two evils/creeps'. But you say that about Trump, putting kids in jail, but so has Biden's VP. It's a shame, it really is because the most powerful country in the world has two men who are both as bad as each other imo. Terrible choices, creeps, and only out for their own gain.

I can understand the reluctance to vote, i really can.

[Ammi]

...was it Trump’s son who labelled Biden as creepy and I can’t even with other descriptives used because certain labels only seem to be used and intimated on certain sites...the comments below the vid are pretty horrendous ...

[bots]

We know that Biden won't destroy democracy even if people don't like him personally, Trump is destroying it and will destroy it further. If I was an american I wouldn't need to think about it, it would be Biden all the way

[Swan]

We know that Biden won't destroy democracy even if people don't like him personally, Trump is destroying it and will destroy it further. If I was an american I wouldn't need to think about it, it would be Biden all the way

Trump isn't destroying democracy, he just isn't. He's having a tantrum and trying to stop (ish) the postal vote. If you think Trump, or anyone has the power to end democracy in the US then you're very much mistaken. That will never happen, no matter who is in power!

It's not defence of him, it's just fact.

[bots]

Trump isn't destroying democracy, he just isn't. He's having a tantrum and trying to stop (ish) the postal vote. If you think Trump, or anyone has the power to end democracy in the US then you're very much mistaken. That will never happen, no matter who is in power!

It's not defence of him, it's just fact.

you are completely wrong, he has been bypassing congress and has had the government protect his personal interests rather than those of the american people. There are countless examples of him subverting democracy

[Swan]

you are completely wrong, he has been bypassing congress and has had the government protect his personal interests rather than those of the american people. There are countless examples of him subverting democracy

A voting democracy? Go for it, show me/us actual facts.

Trump is a moron, he looks out for his own interests, of course. But denting democracy, no. It'll never be allowed, never!

Even he's not that stupid. Putting a stop to postal votes is just him throwing his toys out of the pram, means nothing in the general scheme of things.

[user104658]

A voting democracy? Go for it, show me/us actual facts.



Trump is a moron, he looks out for his own interests, of course. But denting democracy, no. It'll never be allowed, never!



Even he's not that stupid. Putting a stop to postal votes is just him throwing his toys out of the pram, means nothing in the general scheme of things.He's trying (hard) to throw up as many obstacles and disincentives as he can against voting in a country that already has relatively low voter turnout, and a seesawing two-party system that pivots around the 50% mark constantly.

Because there are only two parties, and because the margins are historically so close, any attempt to trip up the votes for your opponent when you are the one in power is a clear and very real threat to democracy. Not necessarily a permanent one - but there's always the risk of it setting a precedent if its allowed to happen.

[Liam-]

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Trump could never inspire anybody this much, hope beats hatred and fear.

[Tom4784]

I've never voted, left or right (not that i could in the US). So it doesn't really make me anything according to US politics. I've never defended people who may vote for Trump or Biden, im merely stating that it's a ridiculous assumption to say every Trump voter is a 'racist' because it's simply not true.

You also say he's a threat to democracy, but the US is a voting democracy.

I have never, ever defended Trump, go through every single one of my posts, im actually against Trump. But to not let hatred and emotion get the better of me i see the bigger picture. Biden, like Trump is a creep, and his appointment of Harris was beyond stupid. Harris is bad news, a very narrow minded and 'out for ones own gain' type of person. Kinda reminds me of Trump!

You can fight fire with fire all you like, Biden chose fire, he chose what he thought would gain him the 'black vote'. It's backfiring and so it should.

You can carry on blaming 'centralism' as an excuse to be a closet right winger, but at the end of day both choices are awful, truly awful. Shout and swear all you like, but politics is the art of the possible. Play the game. Because that's all this is, two huge ego's battling one another. Who wins? WE DON'T DECIDE!

Not voting is a vote for the status quo and also a disservice to those who have suffered and died to ensure your rights.

It's not a ridiculous notion at this point, the US people have no excuse, if they choose to vote Trump in this election then they are doing so because they enjoy his cruelty. This is a man who fought for children to be separated from their parents at the border despite being told that the US didn't have the resources to reunite them, this is a man that wanted to put money into sharpening spikes atop the fences on the border just for the idea of inflicting more pain upon people. He has been endlessly racist and it is the reason why his base is so loyal to him and why everyone else has ditched him over the years. His fanbase love him because he is 'hurting the right people' in their eyes.

He is a threat to democracy, if you knew anything about the current situation, you'd know that the republicans are basically letting the Russians wholesale interfere with the election because it benefits them and Trump is constantly trying to screw with the postal service because the less people that vote, the more chance he has of being re-elected and people will be less likely to vote in person with this Covid world we're living in. He also wants to undo term limits so he can serve until the end of his days. He is a threat to democracy because he is trying to undo everything democracy related that could lead to him losing the presidency. Honestly, if you're going to defend someone, which you are definitely doing here, at least be informed about them.

At this point it doesn't matter what Biden and Harris are doing because they simply cannot be worse than Trump. This election is not about voting for Biden, it's about voting Trump out so he can't do anymore damage. Realistically, a Biden/Harris administration is likely just going to fix all the damage that Trump has done, it'll right the boat and likely just float on by until his terms are done. I hate Biden but America (and us) need Trump out of the White House. He cannot have another term.

Honestly, if you think the two are in anyway comparable then you are engaging in wanton false equivalency in a way that can only benefit Trump. You don't think both sides are just as bad as each other, you're basically just running interference for Trump. One is a practiced politician who served as VP in an administration that had to right the boat after Bush, the other is worse than Bush in every way and will have untold consequences on the world if he is allowed to continue. You keep saying one thing but your words say another.

[Tom4784]

A voting democracy? Go for it, show me/us actual facts.

Trump is a moron, he looks out for his own interests, of course. But denting democracy, no. It'll never be allowed, never!

Even he's not that stupid. Putting a stop to postal votes is just him throwing his toys out of the pram, means nothing in the general scheme of things.

Google is your friend, there are plenty of articles from reputable news sources about his attempt to steal the election.

[Nicky91]

Biden is correct, Trump is hoping for a miracle corona is going away anytime soon

there isn't gonna be a miracle, corona will stick around for long term

Trump has failed as president, and especially now in this coronacrisis

[arista]

But Biden had no Substance
he said he will look at Guns?
But said no more?


Trump is live now in Arlington, VA
using Biden's Anti Gun speech

[Nicky91]

But Biden had no Substance
he said he will look at Guns?
But said no more?


Trump is live now in Arlington, VA
using Biden's Anti Gun speech

if Trump wins, hope lots boycott america, no more working, let the economy fall down

Trump MUST LOSE, it is our mission to see this orange loser go down

[bots]

But Biden had no Substance
he said he will look at Guns?
But said no more?


Trump is live now in Arlington, VA
using Biden's Anti Gun speech

what substance does Trump have, what is his manifesto for the next 4 years?

[Crimson Dynamo]

what substance does Trump have, what is his manifesto for the next 4 years?

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HE IS LIVE NOW

[arista]

what substance does Trump have, what is his manifesto for the next 4 years?

Keeping The rights to bear Arms.

[Crimson Dynamo]

10 years in prison if you knock down a statue

seems to have quelled the problem

[Crimson Dynamo]

Trump saying that the POlice do a great jonb, you get a few bad apples yes

Most police are endorsing him

[caprimint]

10 years in prison if you knock down a statue

seems to have quelled the problem
Should be the same for the UK

[caprimint]

o-WhXDIpiIY

Lol nice. I wanna go here

[Liam-]

Keeping The rights to bear Arms.

Aye, the most important issue sweeping the country right now

[arista]

Aye, the most important issue sweeping the country right now


Biden needs to talk about Law and Order
that matters to voters in USA

[Tom4784]

Should be the same for the UK

Statues that pay tribute to slavers should be brought down.

Imagine defending a statue depicting a slaver....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Biden needs to talk about Law and Order
that matters to voters in USA

Yes the country is worried about the radical left and their looting and fighting. Portland

Also worried about law and order in radical left Democrat cities

Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, Detroit, Baltimore and Oakland, California

:bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

DJN0Ars57Ns

[Nicky91]

DJN0Ars57Ns

Trump is ******* delusional


get rid of him as president and send him to a happy home along with his belarusian half Lukashenko

[bots]

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[Tom4784]

They banned MAGA hats so Trump wants to destroy an american company, causing job losses and money to flow to foreign tiremakers.

I'd love to see how his supporters try to explain it away.

[lime]

The moment Trump awarded Limbaugh a medal of honour...but ignored Lewis should show the world what a racist he is..To award a racist like Limbaugh ..but deny Lewis

[lime]

DJN0Ars57Ns

Have you an opinion of your own or are we going to to stick to MAGA and watch edited videos on Youtube?

[arista]

Nancy is Live on CNN HD
talking about the US Post

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Brother Leon]

Trump even going to lose Ohio now too. He’s keeps sticking his foot in it. If Biden doesn’t win then the Democratic Party should just fold.

[bots]

Donald Trump’s older sister, a former federal judge, is heard sharply criticizing her brother in a series of recordings released Saturday, at one point saying of the president: “He has no principles.”

Maryanne Trump Barry was secretly recorded by her niece, Mary Trump, who recently released a book denouncing the president, Too Much and Never Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man. Mary Trump said Saturday she made the recordings in 2018 and 2019.

In one recording, Barry, 83, says she had heard a 2018 interview with her brother on Fox News in which he suggested that he would put her on the border to oversee cases of immigrant children separated from their parents.

“His base, I mean my God, if you were a religious person, you want to help people. Not do this,” Barry says.

At another point she says: “His goddamned tweet and lying, oh my God.” She adds: “I’m talking too freely, but you know. The change of stories. The lack of preparation. The lying. Holy ****.”

Barry can also be heard saying that she guesses that her brother has never read her opinions on immigration cases.

“What has he read?” Mary Trump asks her aunt. Barry responds: “No. He doesn’t read.”

The recordings were first reported by the Washington Post. The Associated Press then obtained the recordings.

The recordings came to light just a day after the late Robert Trump, brother to Maryanne and the president, was memorialized in a service at the White House. Later, the president was dismissive of the recordings.

“Every day it’s something else, who cares. I miss my brother, and I’ll continue to work hard for the American people,” Trump said in a statement. “Not everyone agrees, but the results are obvious. Our country will soon be stronger than ever before.”

In the weeks since the release of Mary Trump’s tell-all book about her uncle, she has been questioned about the source of some of its information.

Nowhere in the book does she say that she recorded conversations with her aunt. On Saturday, Mary Trump revealed that she had covertly taped 15 hours of face-to-face conversations with Barry.

“Mary realized members of her family had lied in prior depositions,” said Chris Bastardi, a spokesman for Mary Trump. He added: “Anticipating litigation, she felt it prudent to tape conversations in order to protect herself.”

The president has frequently spoken highly of his sister; the recordings are the first time a family member, outside of Mary Trump, has been critical of him.

The recordings illuminate the tension between the president and his sister. At one point Barry says to her niece: “It’s the phoniness of it all. It’s the phoniness and this cruelty. Donald is cruel.”

Mary Trump’s book was filled with attacks on her uncle, including the assertion – denied by Trump – that he paid someone to take the SATs for him as he sought to transfer into the University of Pennsylvania.

In one recording, the federal judge says that a Joe Shapiro took the test for Trump. The president was friends with a person at Penn named Joe Shapiro, who is deceased. Shapiro’s widow and sister told have said he never took a test for anybody.

Bastardi said of Mary Trump: “She never expected to learn much of what she heard, including the president’s sister, federal judge Maryanne Trump Barry, state that Donald Trump had paid someone to take an SAT exam for him.”

[Ammi]

...well, Boris’s brother resigned in apparent ‘unresolved tensions’ ...and yet despite that ‘family disapproval’, we still have a Boris...I know it’s not quite the same, his sister isn’t in politics, is she..?..but the outcome of the elections might follow the same path.../..like a premonition or she’s just jinxed it ...:laugh:..and the USA is about to still have a Trump...

[Ammi]

....oh she’s a federal judge, the article says....I have to say, as much as I’m not a Donald person...in general, I think it’s really shabby to discuss a close family member in such a way...

[bots]

....oh she’s a federal judge, the article says....I have to say, as much as I’m not a Donald person...in general, I think it’s really shabby to discuss a close family member in such a way...

she is in her 80's, when you get to that age, you don't care who hears you :laugh:

[Tom4784]

In fairness to her, it was a private conversation that was recorded. I don't think she was ever planning on going to the press.

[arista]

Tonight Live on CNN HD
late night
it's the start of President Trump.

[Tom4784]

I read that he's planning on speaking every night of the Republican conference and that lost of the guest speaker spots are reserved for his kids.

He's certainly not planning a dynasty, oh no, certainly not!

[bots]

it's very good of Trump to make the american population guinea pigs for our untested vaccine ...:cheer2:

[Swan]

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Sharks are so important to our and the oceans eco-system, ffs this man really does get more stupid by the day. And considering his opposition, he'd have a good chance of winning. But still he continues to talk utter crap!

[arista]

CSpan Live at the Trump Event.



https://twitter.com/i/events/1291485767202553856

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgKBYbmXgAAiuQd?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Nicky91]

why not a digital convention, again Trump showing he is a huge fail for america :bored:

[Crimson Dynamo]

why not a digital convention, again Trump showing he is a huge fail for america :bored:

He is the leader of the free world, a successful father with lovely children, TV star, property tycoon and golfer


He is doing ok :joker:

[arista]

Trump is live now
On CNN HD , BBCnewsHD

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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trying to link a man in icu fighting for his life to a hard left political ideology is really grim

[The Slim Reaper]

trying to link a man in icu fighting for his life to a hard left political ideology is really grim


He didn't link anything to a hard left ideology, he doesn't even mention right or left, but I posted for the vid, not this randoms comment. Although you do love posting what daily mail readers have to say, so there's that I suppose.

It's not as grim as a dude shouting out Monkey when Obama's name came up, and the current president could only joke about it.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgN7B_eWAAA7Snf?format=jpg&name=medium

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Ammi]

...do you think the intention is for the Donald to get another term and then for the Donald Junior to step into his shoes...the USA and the world could have Trumps forever....generations and generations of them...

[The Slim Reaper]

...do you think the intention is for the Donald to get another term and then for the Donald Junior to step into his shoes...the USA and the world could have Trumps forever....generations and generations of them...

I don't doubt that they'd like to keep it in the family, but it's up to the voters, and even well liked families like the Kennedys and Clintons, eventually became hated. Although if trump wins this time around there might not be anymore elections in the US for a while.

[Ammi]

I don't doubt that they'd like to keep it in the family, but it's up to the voters, and even well liked families like the Kennedys and Clintons, eventually became hated. Although if trump wins this time around there might not be anymore elections in the US for a while.

...I guess as well with the Trumps, the ‘anti-establishment’ that was voted for, would have quickly become establishment/...a political family...

[The Slim Reaper]

...I guess as well with the Trumps, the ‘anti-establishment’ that was voted for, would have quickly become establishment/...a political family...

That's creding his merry band of mouth breathing supporters as having the abilty to recognise such things.

[Ammi]

...I didn’t realise that Arista had, had his own little run ins with Trump...

https://media.giphy.com/media/G2nSsMBCWGYpO/giphy.gif

[Kizzy]

1298015402837118987

He has more in common with Manson.. a lot more.

[Oliver_W]

I wonder if the recent riots will have any influence over the election?

Like, you have morons like Lori Lightfoot who refuse to allow federal help, and there are parts of Chicago which are/were food and medication deserts, where you couldn't get either for like five miles. Of course she only represents herself and not the Dems as a whole, but she's hardly unique, and her mishandling of the riots gives ammo to the other side to show how "useless" the Dems are.

[The Slim Reaper]

I wonder if the recent riots will have any influence over the election?

Like, you have morons like Lori Lightfoot who refuse to allow federal help, and there are parts of Chicago which are/were food and medication deserts, where you couldn't get either for like five miles. Of course she only represents herself and not the Dems as a whole, but she's hardly unique, and her mishandling of the riots gives ammo to the other side to show how "useless" the Dems are.

You see trumps unaccountable, nameless army pulling people off the streets in unmarked cars, to take them god knows where, and your takeaway is that the dems look incompetent?

There are systemic issues at play in cities like chicago, and it all comes back to funding and the refusal of a decade plus of republican governance to spend money at the federal level, on anything other than tax cuts.

[Oliver_W]

You see trumps unaccountable, nameless army pulling people off the streets in unmarked cars, to take them god knows where, and your takeaway is that the dems look incompetent?
What were the people doing before their arrests? Were they released or sentenced, or simply never seen again?

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgRS9nKVAAEhpJy?format=jpg&name=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgRS-hHVoAYbx_h?format=jpg&name=large

[Tom4784]

What were the people doing before their arrests? Were they released or sentenced, or simply never seen again?

I don't think it matters, they were taken away without being read their rights to an unknown location by unmarked cars and agents who didn't identify themselves. That sets a dangerous precedent that you should be concerned more with than whether you think some unconstitutional and downright dictatorial actions is justified.

[Oliver_W]

I don't think it matters, they were taken away without being read their rights to an unknown location by unmarked cars and agents who didn't identify themselves. That sets a dangerous precedent that you should be concerned more with than whether you think some unconstitutional and downright dictatorial actions is justified.

Is there footage to show they weren't read their rights and weren't told who the people were? For all we know that could have happened in the vehicles or when they were being taken to them. It also depends on what the accused were doing - if they were acting violently or destructively, they obviously need to be removed from the situation.

[Tom4784]

Is there footage to show they weren't read their rights and weren't told who the people were? For all we know that could have happened in the vehicles or when they were being taken to them. It also depends on what the accused were doing - if they were acting violently or destructively, they obviously need to be removed from the situation.

The footage speaks for itself and even the likes of FOX NEWS called it out for what it was.

It's interesting that you're trying so hard to defend what is a clear cut act of totalitarianism though. All these ifs and buts that are based on nothing. At the end of the day, people have rights and you're trying to defend the utter abuse and disregard of those rights by a president who has frequently shown the world how much of a fascist he is.

[Oliver_W]

The footage speaks for itself and even the likes of FOX NEWS called it out for what it was.

I've not seen the footage :shrug:

It's interesting that you're trying so hard to defend what is a clear cut act of totalitarianism though. All these ifs and buts that are based on nothing. At the end of the day, people have rights and you're trying to defend the utter abuse and disregard of those rights by a president who has frequently shown the world how much of a fascist he is.
I'm not trying to defend anything tbh. I agree it'd be better if the rioters were bunged into a clearly marked police van by cops in clearly visible uniforms. But until we reach the day that people are plucked off the streets for no apparent reason and are never seen again, likening it to fascism is daft. The recently used methods aren't ideal, tis true.

[Tom4784]

They are far from ideal and you know it's bad when even the republicans and Fox News called it out.

What else would you call Trump's secret police loading protesters (Not rioters, protesters) into unmarked vehicles? It's fascism, choosing to be blind to it doesn't make it less so.

[Oliver_W]

They are far from ideal and you know it's bad when even the republicans and Fox News called it out.

What else would you call Trump's secret police loading protesters (Not rioters, protesters) into unmarked vehicles? It's fascism, choosing to be blind to it doesn't make it less so.

Where's the footage of this happening?

[Liam-]

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Not even family is safe from the Republican racism

[Liam-]

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Prepare for big orange melt down

[Tom4784]

Where's the footage of this happening?

Google is your friend.

[Tom4784]

1298341918754185217

Not even family is safe from the Republican racism

I would emancipate myself from that racist hag.

[Oliver_W]

Google is your friend.

The only video I could find was someone in a mask and battle helmet being taken away, are there any more?

[Denver]

1298341918754185217

Not even family is safe from the Republican racism

She is unfit to take care of herself let alone children

[bots]

1298432819828535297

[Ammi]

i3VqKsUSNQE

[Crimson Dynamo]

DPieooktWb0

Gov. Kristi Noem (R-SD) castigated Democrats for the recent wave of protests and rioting that have roiled America’s cities on Tuesday, arguing that the party’s leaders have left hard-working “to fend for themselves.”

“It took 244 years to build this great nation — flaws and all — but we stand to lose it in a tiny fraction of that time if we continue down the path taken by the Democrats and their radical supporters,” Noem told the Republican National Convention while delivering a prime-time address.

“From Seattle and Portland to Washington and New York, Democrat-run cities across this country are being overrun by violent mobs. The violence is rampant,” the governor added. “There’s looting, chaos, destruction, and murder. People that can afford to flee have fled. But the people that can’t — good, hard-working Americans — are left to fend for themselves.”

Noem’s remarks came as rioting extended to its third day in Kenosha, Wisconsin. The tumult began on Sunday when local police shot Jacob Blake, a 29-year-old black American man, several times in the back after he resisted arrest, ignored police commands and made a lunge for a deadly weapon in his car.

After the video of the shooting appeared on social media, protests erupted on the streets of Kenosha. Those protests quickly turned violent On Monday, in particular, several businesses were burnt to the ground, including, a local charity.

The situation only intensified on Tuesday with more looting and confrontations occurring across Kenosha. One of those incidents caught national attention when a 17-year-old Illinois resident, Kyle Rittenhouse, killed two individuals and wounded a third with a rifle. Rittenhouse, who had identified himself as a supporter of law enforcement, was arrested on Wednesday for the shootings.

In the wake of such incidents, the Department of Justice announced it is deploying federal resources to Wisconsin to help quell the unrest.


https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/08/26/kristi-noem-hard-working-americans-are-left-to-fend-for-themselves-in-democrat-run-cities/

[Tom4784]

I'd say most americans will feel 'left to fend for themselves' by an increasingly vicious cut of social services that people rely on, something that is championed by the republicans and enforced by Trump.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Liam-]

Ah, Laura Ingraham, the well known balanced, non racist, sane fox commentator

[arista]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-53897134

Trump is Live in a min.

[Denver]

Trump has one if his lapdogs paddling the All Lives Matter bull**** and calling BLM protesters Antifa not really the best argument for reelection aye?

[Nicky91]

Trump :laugh3: :laugh3: all those people gathering there without face masks either LOL

way above limit of maximum people either



calling Biden an old man, lmao what is he then himself, he is also old himself :idc:


Biden taking away america's greatness, LOL reality check trump America was never great to start with

[Nicky91]

if Trump wins, hope there are more protests than ever

[Liam-]

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Inject it into my veins.

[Ammi]

1299197966687842304

Inject it into my veins.

...that’s a very large pot of hot tea, Liam...


https://media.giphy.com/media/ZErmptaZPGQQXeO2Lw/giphy.gif

[Nicky91]

only truth there by mr dale :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

2EszthOV3r4


:clap1:

[Liam-]

A member of the 1% that benefits from the tremendous tax cuts Trump hands out to his super rich friends backs him for re-election? Not really a surprise is it

[Crimson Dynamo]

A member of the 1% that benefits from the tremendous tax cuts Trump hands out to his super rich friends backs him for re-election? Not really a surprise is it

provides 1,349 families with jobs

:clap1:

[Nicky91]

provides 1,349 families with jobs

:clap1:

providing upper class with jobs to be more precise


Trump does nothing for middle class people

[Crimson Dynamo]

providing upper class with jobs to be more precise


Trump does nothing for middle class people

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT dANA AND THE ufc

[bots]

About 21.6 million viewers watched coverage of Trump’s RNC address across nine cable and broadcast networks, down from 23.6 million viewers who watched Biden’s DNC address on the same nine networks.

:hehe:

[Liam-]

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More unprovoked violence from an aggressive Trump supporter, yet the victim was the one arrested, shameful

[Crimson Dynamo]

About 21.6 million viewers watched coverage of Trump’s RNC address across nine cable and broadcast networks, down from 23.6 million viewers who watched Biden’s DNC address on the same nine networks.

:hehe:

yes but the opposition always get more than the ones in power?

[bots]

yes but the opposition always get more than the ones in power?

don't know where you dreamed that up. Trump always claims the biggest ratings

[bots]

1299172810607284225

:joker:

[Tom4784]

1299409697972387841

More unprovoked violence from an aggressive Trump supporter, yet the victim was the one arrested, shameful

The Right Wing are such violent thugs.

[Denver]

Trumps speech was full of lies

[Swan]

This election is going to be so close! Trump and Biden almost neck and neck in the betting odds now.

https://news.paddypower.com/politics/2020/08/28/2020-us-election-odds-donald-trumps-odds-to-win-fall-to-shortest-price-since-april/

[arista]

This election is going to be so close! Trump and Biden almost neck and neck in the betting odds now.

https://news.paddypower.com/politics/2020/08/28/2020-us-election-odds-donald-trumps-odds-to-win-fall-to-shortest-price-since-april/


Very Early
so much bad stuff on Biden
still, to come out.


Biden needs to say, more
how wrong the Looters are.

[Nicky91]

Very Early
so much bad stuff on Biden
still, to come out.


Biden needs to say, more
how wrong the Looters are.

it is more how people are still falling for Trump's lies and deception :idc:

[Liam-]

Very Early
so much bad stuff on Biden
still, to come out.


Biden needs to say, more
how wrong the Looters are.

He has done, not a word from Trump about his supporters killing people though, why isn’t he expected to do that?

[Liam-]

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Another deranged trump supporter threatening to kill reporters for doing their job, Trump needs to come out and condemn these maniacs otherwise he is clearly giving his support to them, these people love a bit of terrorism when it’s them committing it or threatening to do so, terrifying.

[user104658]

Trump is going to win :shrug:

[Denver]

Trump is going to win :shrug:

This is the first time in history where the political party have members backing the opposition and its expected a lot more will come out in support for Biden in the next few months.

Its predicted by the time of the election the US will have around 300k Coronavirus deaths which will play a part then you got Trump danning the flames of a race war

[Liam-]

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So you’re allowed to get into your car, be aggressive and threaten to kill cops if you’re white, funny that, no bullets needed, whodathunkit

[arista]

He has done, not a word from Trump about his supporters killing people though, why isn’t he expected to do that?

Sure but he needs to more

[Oliver_W]

To be fair the way both candidates respond to the damage caused by the riots could help sway people unsure as to how to vote. As far as I know Americans are defensive of First Amendment rights, including the right to protest? But no-one wants their areas destroyed by rioting, and knowing the person they're voting for is with them on both counts could be the clincher.

[Liam-]

Sure but he needs to more

What more can he do? He’s said it’s wrong and people should find other ways to channel their anger.

Do you expect trump to condemn his actual supporters who commit violence?

[Oliver_W]

Sure but he needs to more

He's not the Prez, what more do you expect from him? :joker:

[Tom4784]

The hypocrisy of saying that Biden needs to be more while choosing to ignore the damage Trump has done in his four years of presidency. As long as Biden's administration can right the ship and put the US back on track, that's more than enough for the moment.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Liam-]

Let me know when he calls out the right wing terrorists

[Liam-]

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[Nicky91]

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Donnie feeling annoyed they are onto the truth about him and goes into his usual defensive aggressive mode, how predictable this again from the big child

[Liam-]

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He just keeps doing the racisms to stoke hatred

[Oliver_W]

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He just keeps doing the racisms to stoke hatred

I agree it was wrong to link the attack to BLM/Antifa, but it doesn't matter who shared the video. Rapists deserve their faces and crimes to be known, and is Trump meant to run a background check on everything upon which he comments?

[Liam-]

I agree it was wrong to link the attack to BLM/Antifa, but it doesn't matter who shared the video. Rapists deserve their faces and crimes to be known, and is Trump meant to run a background check on everything upon which he comments?

Should the President of America, in the midst of a tumultuous race argument, check he’s not retweeting and therefore, endorsing, the rantings and lies of an admitted white nationalist? Yes, yes he should

[bots]

Should the President of America, in the midst of a tumultuous race argument, check he’s not retweeting and therefore, endorsing, the rantings and lies of an admitted white nationalist? Yes, yes he should

yeah, but it's nothing new is it, he has frequently retweeted dodgy stuff

[arista]

Let me know when he calls out the right wing terrorists



No, he has not got time

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is too busy preparing for 8 more years

[Oliver_W]

he is too busy preparing for 8 more years

eight? :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

eight? :joker:

Yes as the Dems aint got nowt:joker:

[Liam-]

eight? :joker:

Wouldn’t put it past him to try tbh, he’s shown to not be a fan of the constitution

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wouldn’t put it past him to try tbh

:joker:

he said in his speech as they were chanting "4 more years" at him..."say 8 more years, that really upsets them"

[Liam-]

You say it like it’s a good thing the leader of the free world is an actual troll

[Crimson Dynamo]

You say it like it’s a good thing the leader of the free world is an actual troll

Its called humour Liam

Donald has a great sense of it and people like that

[Liam-]

In his latest press conference, Trump refused multiple times to condemn right wing violence and vigilantism, proving once and for all who the real law and order candidate is

[Denver]

he is too busy preparing for 8 more years

You do realise it is written into Law that you can only serve 2 terms as a president?

[Glenn.]

If it gets another term I can see someone putting a bullet in its head before it’s over.

[Swan]

If it gets another term I can see someone putting a bullet in its head before it’s over.

The extreme left has become more, and more violent, so this could certainly happen.

[Denver]

The extreme left has become more, and more violent, so this could certainly happen.

The ibly voilebt ones are the Extreme Right

[Swan]

The ibly voilebt ones are the Extreme Right

But they aren't going to put a bullet in Trump's head, are they?!

[Nicky91]

But they aren't going to put a bullet in Trump's head, are they?!

Trump needs to be stopped, he needs to lose these elections


where he belongs is to have his own stand up comedy show, the deluded troll he is, if he is loved by his ''humour'' he belongs there, not as president of the free world (that is a very serious job, no time for humour/trolling in politics)

[Tom4784]

The extreme left has become more, and more violent, so this could certainly happen.

You really shouldn't spread lies and misinformation just because it benefits your right wing agenda.

[Tom4784]

But they aren't going to put a bullet in Trump's head, are they?!

No, they're just gonna shoot and run over protesters, shoot up places of worships, supermarkets, schools, abortion clinics and endorse the brutalisation and murder of black people.

But the 'extreme left' are the violent ones!

[Crimson Dynamo]

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:umm2:

[Nicky91]

coming from a Trump :fan:

[Oliver_W]

Tbh the best thing either candidate can do is sit back and let the other idiot run his mouth.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police group leader calls Biden-Harris 'most radical anti-police ticket in history'

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2017/08/fakephoto.jpg

The president of the top lobbying group representing police and law enforcement officers tore into Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday, calling them the “most radical anti-police ticket in history.”

Michael McHale, the president of the National Association of Police Organizations, decried what he described as a rash of violence against police officers in recent months and railed against “failed” elected officials in cities such as Minneapolis, New York and Chicago who he said had made “the conscious decision not to support law enforcement.”

Biden, he said, would follow their lead.

“Joe Biden has turned his candidacy over to the far-left, anti-law enforcement radicals,” he said. “And as a senator, Kamala Harris pushed to further restrict police, cut their training, and make our American communities and streets even more dangerous than they are.”

“The differences between Trump-Pence and Biden-Harris are crystal clear,” he continued. “Your choices are the most pro-law enforcement president we’ve ever had or the most radical anti-police ticket in history.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/513876-police-group-leader-calls-biden-harris-most-radical-anti-police-ticket-in

[Liam-]

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Trump, the president of division, hatred, bigotry, violence and animal murder.

[Liam-]

1300617816786296832

Powerful

[Crimson Dynamo]

1300617816786296832

Powerful

thats the bloke who shagged an intern instead of working and cheated on his wife

awful

[Liam-]

Can I introduce you to Donald Trump?

[bots]

Can I introduce you to Donald Trump?

here you go :laugh:

hgUd4v17SQc

[Ammi]

1300617816786296832

Powerful

...yeah, very powerful..when Obama begun to sing Amazing Grace...:love:...such a statesman...at least Trump didn’t offer autographs at the press conference, so there’s that, I guess...

[Liam-]

here you go :laugh:

hgUd4v17SQc

And they say Bidens mental state is declining, he’s like that mad uncle that rants about street lights reading your mind

[Nicky91]

here you go :laugh:

hgUd4v17SQc

lacking self-awareness tick


and what did Biden say again, *Trump would do literally everything to still remain president*, well he and his minion son Eric really intend on destroying the opposition as it seems so that is correct and the truth what Biden told us

[Nicky91]

people who desperately want to remain in power, ''power-hungry'' are very dangerous and unfit for presidency

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Does anyone have confidence that sleepy joe (in his bunker) will sort out this?

[The Slim Reaper]

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Does anyone have confidence that sleepy joe (in his bunker) will sort out this?

Not sure if you've noticed, but Trumps presidency is the one where all this is happening.

[The Slim Reaper]

Trumps face made out of dildo's.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg1643tWoAEmSuV?format=jpg&name=large

[Crimson Dynamo]

If that is where the dem argument is then

8 more years

[The Slim Reaper]

Tell me what you like about Trump, LT. Which policies you like of his, and which you think might need some tweaking, and what policies of Bidens you like/dislike. I want to know and understand what you think. Not a blaze post, but you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Over the weekend, at least 54 people were shot in Chicago — including two Chicago police officers.

[user104658]

Over the weekend, at least 54 people were shot in Chicago — including two Chicago police officers.

Your argument is all over the place LT - you're pointing out that American cities are going to sh*t whilst also arguing that the hypothetical next administration won't so a good job of sorting it out... when the person you're advocating for is in power right now and not doing a good job of sorting it out. It's a logic held together with pritstick and tape. From poundland.

[bots]

you don't sort violence out by writing LAW AND ORDER in capitals on twitter. Before Trump was elected he said he was going to sort out crime and violence, but all he has done is make it worse. He is out of his depth. This year he has completely floundered and everyone knows it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bloomberg-Funded Group: Trump May Win Election Night, But Joe Biden Will Win Days Later Due to Mail-in Votes

https://media.breitbart.com/media/2020/04/virus-outreak-mail-voting-march-10-2020-file-photo-wearing-gloves-king-county-election-worker-collect-640x459-640x480.jpg

An analytics firm bankrolled by billionaire Michael Bloomberg is predicting
that while President Trump will appear to win on November 3, Democrat Joe
Biden will actually win the election days later due to mail-in voting.

Josh Mendelsohn, the CEO of Hawkfish — funded by Bloomberg and currently
working for various pro-Biden super PACs — told Axios that his firm predicts
a “red mirage” where Trump wins on election day but Biden wins the election
days later when mail-in votes are counted:

The reason we talk about a red mirage is in fact because we believe that on
election night, we are going to see Donald Trump in a stronger position than
the reality actually is. We are sounding the alarm and saying that this is a
very real possibility, that the data is going to show on election night an
incredible victory for Donald Trump. That is likely to be what we see.

Mendelsohn claims it could take weeks before Trump’s election night victory
is chipped away at by mail-in votes that will show Biden as the winner.

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/09/01/bloomberg-funded-group-trump-may-win-election-night-but-joe-biden-will-win-days-later-due-to-mail-in-votes/

[Crimson Dynamo]

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During an interview aired on Monday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s
“Ingraham Angle,” President Donald Trump stated that he does not want his
supporters to confront left-wing protesters and that such matters should be left to law enforcement.
Trump also stated that his supporters are good people who “can’t believe” the violence they see in some American cities.

Host Laura Ingraham asked, [relevant exchange begins around 5:00] “[D]o
you want your supporters to confront the left-wing protesters, or do you
want to leave it to law enforcement?”

Trump responded, “No. No, I don’t want them. I want to leave it to law
enforcement. But my supporters are wonderful, hard-working, tremendous
people. And they turn on their television set, and they look at a Portland, or
they look at a Kenosha, before I got involved and stopped it, or they look at
Chicago, where 78 people were shot last weekend and numerous people
died, or they look at New York, where violence is up by like, what? 150%. …
They’re looking at all of this, and they can’t believe it.”

He added, “It’s a peaceful protest. I mean, they were protesting. They
weren’t — you know, it’s amazing, they want to protest, and they get criticized.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/08/31/trump-i-dont-want-my-supporters-confronting-protesters/

[Tom4784]

Imagine using Breitbart as a source.

[Crimson Dynamo]

When you are the seeker of truth and justice, the voice of reason - you have to use many sources from all over the political spectrum. I have even used the hard left Guardian and CNN on occassions.