View Full Version : USA : President Joe Biden 3rd Nov 2020
ON CNN HD its 3:26AM
Live in the Capitol House.
Pence is there with Nancy.in the next scene, the military storm the building and arrest Pence and Pelosi
Denver
07-01-2021, 08:33 AM
Biden and Harris have now been certified as president and vote president
Sticks
07-01-2021, 09:09 AM
Who would have thought that Pence would turn traitor...
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 09:10 AM
https://twitter.com/MinPres/status/1346933459785314305
Dutch PM, ''dear trump'' yeah keep licking that orange moron's arse, we cannot wait to vote you out too, loser Rutte
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErE3AgSVoAEbPVE?format=jpg&name=small
You Freaksis this the same guy with Pelosi's son in law?
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Denver
07-01-2021, 09:27 AM
Who would have thought that Pence would turn traitor...
The same Pence who for the last few months has been attacked and treated like **** by the obese turtle? There is only so much abuse you can take before you snap
Who would have thought that Pence would turn traitor...Maybe Trump did from the very start?
There's that old saying "keep your friends close and your enimies closer"
Mitchell
07-01-2021, 09:38 AM
Pence is a piece of ****, but tonight he did his elected duty, the only traitor was Trump trying to throw him under the bus, and after the recent events, Trump should be straight in jail come January 20th.
Biden and Harris have now been certified as president and vote presidentSo now the crime has been officially committed. Now for the arrests.
arista
07-01-2021, 10:04 AM
SkyNewsHD are saying 4 people died last night.
https://news.sky.com/story/georgia-run-offs-trump-supporters-descend-on-dc-with-georgia-set-to-give-democrats-the-senate-12180470
And Biden Confirmed
as the New President
arista
07-01-2021, 10:42 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErHb-RGXAAAEGpv?format=jpg&name=small
Weird language around 'medical emergencies', is that people suffering heart attacks or what?
Weird language around 'medical emergencies', is that people suffering heart attacks or what?
crushed maybe? Or another way of saying knocked over the head by the police
AnnieK
07-01-2021, 10:52 AM
crushed maybe? Or another way of saying knocked over the head by the police
I read one protestor fell from a balcony.
Possible taser issues too?
arista
07-01-2021, 10:53 AM
Trump promises 'orderly transition' as Biden
win confirmed hours after deadly riot
There you go Alf
Trump has accepted he LOST.
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-promises-orderly-transition-after-biden-confirmed-as-president-12181243
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 10:55 AM
https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1346943173637988354
EU's Ursula von der Leyen regarding this, and how she looks forward working with Biden as US President
arista
07-01-2021, 10:59 AM
Who would have thought that Pence would turn traitor...
If Pence takes over for the last days
he can pardon Trump.
Trump promises 'orderly transition' as Biden
win confirmed hours after deadly riot
There you go Alf
Trump has accepted he LOST.
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-promises-orderly-transition-after-biden-confirmed-as-president-12181243Show me his full statement, and I'll show you the part where he suggests that he'll be the winner.
arista
07-01-2021, 11:03 AM
Show me his full statement, and I'll show you the part where he suggests that he'll be the winner.
Its on Every news now
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 11:07 AM
Show me his full statement, and I'll show you the part where he suggests that he'll be the winner.
Everyone knew what was happening.
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arista
07-01-2021, 11:09 AM
[Ashli Babbitt: Trump supporter shot dead in Capitol
was Air Force veteran]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/03/37704634-9120779-Babbit_pictured_was_a_14_year_veteran_of_the_US_Ai r_Force_and_a_-a-69_1609990845473.jpg
https://news.sky.com/story/ashli-babbitt-trump-supporter-shot-dead-in-capitol-was-air-force-veteran-12181190
Its on Every news nowIt's just the end of the first term, the second term is coming.
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arista
07-01-2021, 11:11 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/07/10/article-9121381-37714632-375_964x543.jpg
user104658
07-01-2021, 11:14 AM
It's just the end of the first term, the second term is coming.
To be fair Alf, I feel like you do offer a valuable insight into the mindset of people who would otherwise feel very distant.
user104658
07-01-2021, 11:18 AM
Everyone knew what was happening.
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Videos like this actually make me feel some sympathy for many of these people to be honest. Yes, what they have tried to do is absolutely ****ing insane and horrifying BUT you can often tell that they genuinely, 100%, believe in what they have been told. They really believe that Trump won, that he is there to save them from oppression and that they have a noble cause that is being stamped out and they are genuinely distressed.
They've been radicalized by their own president and now it's falling apart. He's ruined these peoples' lives :shrug:.
James
07-01-2021, 11:51 AM
Videos like this actually make me feel some sympathy for many of these people to be honest. Yes, what they have tried to do is absolutely ****ing insane and horrifying BUT you can often tell that they genuinely, 100%, believe in what they have been told. They really believe that Trump won, that he is there to save them from oppression and that they have a noble cause that is being stamped out and they are genuinely distressed.
They've been radicalized by their own president and now it's falling apart. He's ruined these peoples' lives :shrug:.
It's like the people that believe the Earth is flat. I've been down the rabbit-hole on YouTube, and looked at some of their videos, and they really do believe (and can offer up 'proof') that it is a huge worldwide conspiracy to cover up the Earth's true nature. They are not simply trolling.
Denver
07-01-2021, 11:56 AM
I read one protestor fell from a balcony.
Possible taser issues too?
It was 3 people who worked there that had heart attacks whole being evacuated
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 12:15 PM
Imagine 4 people are dead today because some billionaire is a bad loser. Absolutely vile
arista
07-01-2021, 01:10 PM
Imagine 4 people are dead today because some billionaire is a bad loser. Absolutely vile
It's not that simple.
America has changed, that Clinton woman
was not a leader
the Democratic Party picked the wrong one
to run against Trump in 2016.
SherzyK
07-01-2021, 01:12 PM
It's not that simple.
America has changed, that Clinton woman
was not a leader
the Democratic Party picked the wrong one
to run against Trump in 2016.
Her name is Hillary Clinton
arista
07-01-2021, 01:13 PM
Her name is Hillary Clinton
Not a good leader
It's not that simple.
America has changed, that Clinton woman
was not a leader
the Democratic Party picked the wrong one
to run against Trump in 2016.
...it’s exactly that simple, Arista...to place any blame on Hilary Clinton for the events of yesterday is completely fake news, as the saying goes...
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 01:17 PM
It's not that simple.
America has changed, that Clinton woman
was not a leader
the Democratic Party picked the wrong one
to run against Trump in 2016.
Stop. Democrats are not to blame for Trump. Trump won the republican primary easily, and he received a record number of votes after 4 years of stoking racism and stealing children.
Maybe use what happened to work out where your constant anti-immigrant rhetoric leads you and the rest of us, in the end.
SherzyK
07-01-2021, 01:19 PM
Not a good leader
And how is it her fault that this has all ensued?
Oliver_W
07-01-2021, 01:33 PM
Not a good leader
She's still entitled to be addressed by her actual name.
The blame for losing the 2016 election may well fall on the Democrats for choosing such a crappy candidate, but she nor the party are to blame for Trump's actions.
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 01:38 PM
It's not that simple.
America has changed, that Clinton woman
was not a leader
the Democratic Party picked the wrong one
to run against Trump in 2016.
Are you actually blaming Hilary Clinton/The Democratic party for Trump's behaviour and incitement of violence? Really?
arista
07-01-2021, 01:38 PM
If Pence takes over for the last days
he can pardon Trump.
The 25th Amendment is now being considered.
CNN HD Live
arista
07-01-2021, 01:39 PM
Are you actually blaming Hilary Clinton/The Democratic party for Trump's behaviour and incitement of violence? Really?
I can Blame the Democratic Party of 2016
for putting up the wrong leader.
SherzyK
07-01-2021, 01:40 PM
I can Blame the Democratic Party of 2016
for putting up the wrong leader.
But what does the Democratic Party putting up Hillary Clinton and losing in 2016 have to do with the attack on the capitol, 5 years later...?
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 01:42 PM
I can Blame the Democratic Party of 2016
for putting up the wrong leader.
Maybe blame the Republicans for putting up Trump.....you know the guy who is directly responsible for these riots and deaths and trying to breakdown democracy? Your logic is frankly bizarre, it's the democrat's fault for not winning last time, I mean ffs Arista
arista
07-01-2021, 01:42 PM
But what does the Democratic Party putting up Hillary Clinton and losing in 2016 have to do with the attack on the capitol, 5 years later...?
Its a build up of a mega split in America.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 01:43 PM
I can Blame the Democratic Party of 2016
for putting up the wrong leader.
You and his voters supported trump though. You/they wouldn't have supported a different dem candidate. You all loved him, don't try to pretend that wasn't the case.
SherzyK
07-01-2021, 01:45 PM
Its a build up of a mega split in America.
I don’t understand your logic because you’re implying that democrats losing in 2016 was the build up to Republicans attacking the Capitol yesterday...?
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 01:46 PM
I don’t understand your logic because you’re implying that democrats losing in 2016 was the build up to Republicans attacking the Capitol yesterday...?
And who's to say he wouldn't have caused similar riots in 2016 had he lost? Why would he have been a gracious loser then but not now?
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 01:47 PM
I don’t understand your logic because you’re implying that democrats losing in 2016 was the build up to Republicans attacking the Capitol yesterday...?
Whereas dems winning in 2020 was also the build up to yesterday :laugh:
James
07-01-2021, 01:50 PM
And who's to say he wouldn't have caused similar riots in 2016 had he lost? Why would he have been a gracious loser then but not now?
He said (or implied) before the 2016 election that he would challenge the result in the courts if he lost.
The guy has a history of saying votes that don't go his way, are rigged.
Also I think taking the same case back to court repeatedly.
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 01:53 PM
He said (or implied) before the 2016 election that he would challenge the result in the courts if he lost.
The guy has a history of saying votes that don't go his way, are rigged.
Also I think taking the same case back to court repeatedly.
Well there you go. I think it's pretty obvious no one else is to blame for this narcissistic, megalomaniac's behaviour
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 01:59 PM
Well there you go. I think it's pretty obvious no one else is to blame for this narcissistic, megalomaniac's behaviour
1+1 adds up
Trump had said he wanted a coup at capitol building, and his supporters have a history of literally following him with anything
i also saw on CNN that Trump specifically said January 6th as a day of reckoning, if he didn't say any of this, this whole attack wouldn't have happened
so he and he alone is to blame for this, and with there being 4 deaths, Trump got blood on his hands
arista
07-01-2021, 01:59 PM
You and his voters supported trump though. You/they wouldn't have supported a different dem candidate. You all loved him, don't try to pretend that wasn't the case.
Yes Trump was a Change
America needed a Change.
Like the UK needed Brexit.
But Now he has lost
and has the chance of being pardoned by Pence
if he takes the 25th amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
trump basically fostered the belief that all votes for dems were fraudulent and that the only way he could lose an election was through fraud and his supporters believed him because they all went to his rallies where he talked **** and they all had a racist party
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 02:04 PM
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1347178123578761219
:(
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 02:06 PM
Yes Trump was a Change
America needed a Change.
Like the UK needed Brexit.
But Now he has lost
and has the chance of being pardoned by Pence
if he takes the 25th amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
No, Arista, US didn't need trump and we definitely didn't need brexit. Both things are the result of decades of grievances aimed at the wrong people, and the backers of both are the same people. You've been conned.
Also, this contradicts you blaming the dems. Either the dems are to blame or the US needed a change. Both things can't be true.
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 02:08 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1346927158384414725
hypocrite much? Senator Cruz
you were one of those of hundreds republicans allegedly still believing in democrat vote fraud :idc:
indeed what people say in comments below #ShutUpTed
Denver
07-01-2021, 02:09 PM
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1346927158384414725
hypocrite much? Senator Cruz
you were one of those of hundreds republicans allegedly still believing in democrat vote fraud :idc:
indeed what people say in comments below #ShutUpTed
He was one of the ones who asked them to come on the 6th
I can Blame the Democratic Party of 2016
for putting up the wrong leader.
...but you wouldn’t blame the Republic party for putting up Trump himself, which has all led to these event...you blame Hilary Clinton...
Maybe blame the Republicans for putting up Trump.....you know the guy who is directly responsible for these riots and deaths and trying to breakdown democracy? Your logic is frankly bizarre, it's the democrat's fault for not winning last time, I mean ffs Arista
...or this...
Tom4784
07-01-2021, 02:11 PM
...but you wouldn’t blame the Republic party for putting up Trump himself, which has all led to these event...you blame Hilary Clinton...
The right wing mindset at play. 'It's not our faults for picking the worst possible candidate! It's the other side for not beating him, doubly so if that other side is represented by a woman!'
Niamh.
07-01-2021, 02:11 PM
...or this...
:love:
Yes Trump was a Change
America needed a Change.
Like the UK needed Brexit.
But Now he has lost
and has the chance of being pardoned by Pence
if he takes the 25th amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
...Brexit is still an unknown that no one can say was needed...but Trump wasn’t a ‘change’ that the USA needed to make it more divided than its ever been...
Nicky91
07-01-2021, 02:13 PM
He was one of the ones who asked them to come on the 6th
i know him through and through (thx to daily show)
he already made a fool of himself before at 2016 republican elections (tbh Trump never had any strong opposition in the own party that year either)
The right wing mindset at play. 'It's not our faults for picking the worst possible candidate! It's the other side for not beating him, doubly so if that other side is represented by a woman!'
...and Hilary was apparently ‘too old’, I believe was said...and Biden is ‘too old’ as well...as was Bernie...all of the other possibilities were not suitable at all to be President of the USA...so this is the President we get when ‘just the right one’ is chosen....
2 good things from this last couple of years, i now know much more about Americas constitution and processes, and also my geographic knowledge of the various counties within states has skyrocketed :laugh:
James
07-01-2021, 02:17 PM
Yes Trump was a Change
America needed a Change.
Like the UK needed Brexit.
But Now he has lost
and has the chance of being pardoned by Pence
if he takes the 25th amendment
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
We had four events in recent years in politics (here and the US) where things that were previously on the fringe have been brought into the mainstream.
First was the Scottish Independence referendum, then Corbyn becoming Labour leader, then the EU ref and Brexit, and then Trump becoming President.
That's why I say I want politics to go back to being boring. I'm sick of all this turmoil.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 02:31 PM
We had four events in recent years in politics (here and the US) where things that were previously on the fringe have been brought into the mainstream.
First was the Scottish Independence referendum, then Corbyn becoming Labour leader, then the EU ref and Brexit, and then Trump becoming President.
That's why I say I want politics to go back to being boring. I'm sick of all this turmoil.
Corbyn isn't fringe, and if you think he is then you need to explain that. His policies all poll extremely well. Being a lefty isn't a fringe position, despite what the constant media barrage would have you believe.
user104658
07-01-2021, 02:34 PM
We had four events in recent years in politics (here and the US) where things that were previously on the fringe have been brought into the mainstream.
First was the Scottish Independence referendum, then Corbyn becoming Labour leader, then the EU ref and Brexit, and then Trump becoming President.
That's why I say I want politics to go back to being boring. I'm sick of all this turmoil.
I don't know that it's that simple really... by "boring" you really just mean "things that don't affect you personally very much".
Was Labour's "new deal" stuff boring? Then the Tories' disastrous transition to Universal Credit? On paper, sure, but not to the countless people whose lives were drastically impacted.
We've also been bombing one area of the middle east or another for, at least, most of my lifetime. Not really boring for the people whose houses are dust, I'd think.
Tom4784
07-01-2021, 02:36 PM
Politics has never been boring, it's just now more people are tuned into it more than before.
arista
07-01-2021, 02:36 PM
We had four events in recent years in politics (here and the US) where things that were previously on the fringe have been brought into the mainstream.
First was the Scottish Independence referendum, then Corbyn becoming Labour leader, then the EU ref and Brexit, and then Trump becoming President.
That's why I say I want politics to go back to being boring. I'm sick of all this turmoil.
Yes
I fully understand your steady viewpoint
Covid-19 has made it all, far worse, at this ending
of this USA Extreme Politics.
I would add China (as number 5) to your list
who failed to hold onto Covid-19.
They tried hard to shut up a Doctor warning everyone
he died of Covid-19. Corruption in China.
James
07-01-2021, 02:42 PM
I don't know that it's that simple really... by "boring" you really just mean "things that don't affect you personally very much".
Was Labour's "new deal" stuff boring? Then the Tories' disastrous transition to Universal Credit? On paper, sure, but not to the countless people whose lives were drastically impacted.
We've also been bombing one area of the middle east or another for, at least, most of my lifetime. Not really boring for the people whose houses are dust, I'd think.
Yeah, you could add the Iraq war to the list of huge events that changed politics.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 02:45 PM
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James
07-01-2021, 02:50 PM
Poll: 45% of Republicans support Congress siege
A YouGov poll suggests that a majority of US voters perceived Wednesday’s storming of the Capitol as a threat to democracy - but there is a strong divide along party lines.
The survey of 1,397 registered US voters found 62% considered the riot a threat to democracy - including 93% of Democrats, 55% of independents, and 27% of Republicans.
Among Republicans, 45% of those polled actively supported the actions of Trump supporters disrupting Congress while it was in session, although 43% did not, YouGov found.
Several surveys in recent years have found that US politics is increasingly polarised - with sharp differences in opinion along party lines.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2021/1/7/7cdde52f-e21c-4c68-b821-2cc139a5a6bb.png
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-us-2020-55558355
:umm2:
arista
07-01-2021, 02:51 PM
Slim
She did say
David Cameron did have a go at Trump.
Just after that clever Edit
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 02:52 PM
Slim
She did say
David Cameron did have a go at Trump.
Just after that clever Edit
"consistently"
James
07-01-2021, 03:05 PM
Corbyn isn't fringe, and if you think he is then you need to explain that. His policies all poll extremely well. Being a lefty isn't a fringe position, despite what the constant media barrage would have you believe.
That is what was said about Corbyn at the time - that he had never been part of the political mainstream.
I mean Trump was a fringe character in politics also, and he became President so his policies must have had some appeal to some.
Leaving the EU would have been seen as wackadoodle at one point and that won.
Only one of the four that didn't win was Independence and that still got 45%.
James
07-01-2021, 03:06 PM
That is what was said about Corbyn at the time - that he had never been part of the political mainstream.
I mean Trump was a fringe character in politics also, and he became President so his policies must have had some appeal to some.
Leaving the EU would have been seen as wackadoodle at one point and that won.
Only one of the four that didn't win was Independence and that still got 45%.
(I don't know what I am saying). :shrug:
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 03:13 PM
That is what was said about Corbyn at the time - that he had never been part of the political mainstream.
I mean Trump was a fringe character in politics also, and he became President so his policies must have had some appeal to some.
Leaving the EU would have been seen as wackadoodle at one point and that won.
Only one of the four that didn't win was Independence and that still got 45%.
That's more to do with the political mainstream though, and the turn right that the country has been incrementally taking. We have a PM who tried to illegally close parliament. We have a secretary of state ranting against the legal profession, even as they're being attacked.
We've become so blind to what is achievable, that the only politician that tried to improve the lives of everyone and society as a whole, was smeared out of town with lies faster than Boris could put Russians into the HoL. We do have a fringe element, but they're running the country. Even his cabinet is packed with brexit extremists.
The left has no power, and yet we always revert back to them as the problem, in the face of our daily experiences and all of the evidence.
James
07-01-2021, 03:21 PM
I don't know that it's that simple really... by "boring" you really just mean "things that don't affect you personally very much".
Was Labour's "new deal" stuff boring? Then the Tories' disastrous transition to Universal Credit? On paper, sure, but not to the countless people whose lives were drastically impacted.
We've also been bombing one area of the middle east or another for, at least, most of my lifetime. Not really boring for the people whose houses are dust, I'd think.
All I know is I spent a decent amount of time worrying about what was happening in America last night, just like I've worried about the possibility of a No Deal Brexit recently, and if the Independence thing came up again I would worry about that. (Corbyn I wasn't fussed about really).
While benefit changes are very important to many people, they are not massive constitutional upheaval. Maybe I'm being a bit selfish there I don't know.
I only vaguely remember the 'new deal' thing - didn't Gordon Brown stand in Downing Street before his first budget with some apprentices?
arista
07-01-2021, 04:04 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErHb-Q_XUAE78tl?format=jpg&name=small
arista
07-01-2021, 04:51 PM
DC Mayor on CNN HD
68 arrested yesterday
only one was local
arista
07-01-2021, 05:26 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErIpVMIXAAY4PZ0?format=jpg&name=small
Another entire day of "Orange man bad" on this thread.
Ever since the media told you to dislike him, it's been a 4 year stuck record.
You're boring.
arista
07-01-2021, 06:02 PM
A New 7ft High Non-Scalable fence
is going around round all the buildings
for the next 30 days.
Ch5HDnews
A New 7ft High Non-Scalable fence
is going around round all the buildings
for the next 30 days.
Ch5HDnewsBut I thought walls were racist? Only when Orange man bad suggests them, I'm guessing?
arista
07-01-2021, 06:13 PM
[Fortress White House: Crews will begin
building 'non-scalable fence' around the complex
tomorrow as Secret Service prepares for potential unrest]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8904169/Fortress-White-House-Crews-begin-building-non-scalable-fence-complex.html
arista
07-01-2021, 06:14 PM
But I thought walls were racist? Only when Orange man bad suggests them, I'm guessing?
No silly
it's temporary
No silly
it's temporarySo it's OK to just be racist for 30 days then?
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 06:37 PM
So it's OK to just be racist for 30 days then?
When even Arista calls you silly, it's time to change course :hehe:
When even Arista calls you silly, it's time to change course :hehe:I decline your advise.
When even Arista calls you silly, it's time to change course :hehe:You cry for years about building a wall being racist, I make one sarcastic comment highlighting the hypocrisy and you try to advise me to stop.
arista
07-01-2021, 06:46 PM
Biden is holding a Briefing
it will be Live on SkyNewsHD in a min.
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 06:47 PM
You cry for years about building a wall being racist, I make one sarcastic comment highlighting the hypocrisy and you try to advise me to stop.
Not really, I wasn't being serious. You're a grown ass man, you can do what you want. I like the majority of your posts, probably for different reasons but it's a sh1tty time, so I'll take what I can get.
Crimson Dynamo
07-01-2021, 06:49 PM
Wednesday, Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson delivered a monologue about the riots seen at the U.S. Capitol that left four dead and many more injured.
After emphasizing how “horrified” he was by the violence, Carlson said on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” that as long as the people feel that “their democracy is fraudulent” and are silenced while speaking out about it, the people will act out as seen on Wednesday and in history. He warned that the chaos at the Capitol could be used by the nation’s leaders to strip Americans of their basic rights.
Partial transcript as follows:
As long as people sincerely believe they can change things by voting, they stay calm. They don’t storm the bastille. They don’t burst into the House chamber. They talk and they organize and they vote. But the opposite is also true. If people begin to believe that their democracy is fraudulent, if they conclude that voting is a charade, that the system is rigged and it’s run in secret by a small group of powerful dishonest people who are acting in their own interests, then God knows what could happen. Actually, we do know what could happen. It’s happening right now. It’s happened in countless other countries over countless centuries, and the cycle is always the same because human nature never changes.
“Listen to us!” screams the population. “Shut up and do what you’re told,” reply their leaders. In the face of dissent, the first instinct of illegitimate leadership is to crack down on the population. But crackdowns never make it better. Instead, they always make the country more volatile and more dangerous. The people in charge rarely understand that. They don’t care to learn or listen because all of this conversation is a referendum on them and their leadership, so they clamp down harder. “Obey, I tell you. Obey!” This is the Romanov program. It ends badly every single time. But that doesn’t mean they won’t try it again. Of course, they will because it’s their nature. It’s how we got here in the first place.
Millions of Americans sincerely believe the last election was fake. You can dismiss them as crazy, you can call them conspiracy theorists, you can kick them off Twitter, but that won’t change their minds. Rather than trying to change their minds to convince them and reassure them the system is real, that the democracy works as you would do if you cared about the country or the people who live here, our new leaders will try to silence them.
What happened today will be used by the people taking power to justify stripping you of the rights were born with as an American. Your right to speak without being censored, your right to assemble, to not be spied upon, to make a living, to defend your family, most critically. These are the most basic and ancient freedoms that we have. They are why we live here in the first place. They’re why we are proud to be Americans. They are what make us different, and they are all now in peril. When thousands of your countrymen storm the Capitol building, you don’t have to like it. We don’t.
You can be horrified by the violence, and as we said and we will say it again, we are horrified. It’s wrong. But if you don’t bother to pause and learn a single thing from it, from your citizens storming your Capitol building, then you’re a fool. You lack wisdom and you lack self-awareness. You have no place running a country. We got to this sad, chaotic day for a reason. It is not your fault. It is their fault.
arista
07-01-2021, 06:54 PM
Biden is Live
on SkyNewsHD and CNN HD
The Slim Reaper
07-01-2021, 06:57 PM
Tucker and the res of fox/rw media have been telling before the election that it was going to be stolen and taken away from them, so I don't get the "these humble folks believe it was stolen so let's hear them out" shtick.
When you brag that you're the most watched "news channel" then what do they think will happen? Tucker is loved by white supremacists and has regularly had them on his show. Tuckers lawyer argued in court that his opinions can't be trusted as either serious or honest.
CNN is loved by Black supremacists.
arista
08-01-2021, 01:34 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/CEAD/production/_116390925_theguardian.jpg
arista
08-01-2021, 01:34 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/3655/production/_116390931_inewspaper.jpg
arista
08-01-2021, 01:35 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/2971/production/_116390601_dailytelegraph.jpg
arista
08-01-2021, 01:35 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/184B5/production/_116390599_financialtimes.jpg
arista
08-01-2021, 01:36 AM
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/13695/production/_116390597_metro.jpg
arista
08-01-2021, 01:38 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErK76EPWMAAtyyK?format=jpg&name=medium
Tom4784
08-01-2021, 03:13 AM
Another entire day of "Orange man bad" on this thread.
Ever since the media told you to dislike him, it's been a 4 year stuck record.
You're boring.
You're literally being told what to think by that orange man and russian bots and you're swallowing it wholesale. Don't project your gullibility onto other people.
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 03:22 AM
Seeing Trump back down and turn on the people who loved him is pure bliss
politicians don't love each other they just see each other as a means to an end no matter what political party it is, you need to be ruthless to make it into politics in the first place you can be sure harris would throw biden under the bus first chance she has, its just business for them, i mean you'd think these people were normal everyday people that have made it from nothing to something the way people worship them lol
James
08-01-2021, 08:17 AM
Trump is such a bizarre character, so unsuited for the job. It's incredible he ever became President.
...wasn’t that the point, though...’unsuitable’ for many voters translated to ‘not establishment’ and not a politician and they felt that they were being let down and uninformed by establishment, by politics...he was the anti vote...so being unsuitable was an added plus for him with some...
...when he won, I thought for a while he looked shocked/stunned...as if he didn’t expect it...but then he believed his own hype and believed he was a great president and just what America needed to ‘be great again’...
arista
08-01-2021, 10:07 AM
Seeing Trump back down and turn on the people who loved him is pure bliss
Yes he sounds more stable
https://news.sky.com/story/us-capitol-outraged-trump-says-those-who-broke-the-law-will-pay-and-biden-will-be-sworn-in-on-20-january-12181961
arista
08-01-2021, 10:28 AM
There are reports that Trump's Security Control
at that Capitol building moved back.
Most got in via a Window.
arista
08-01-2021, 10:32 AM
Trump is such a bizarre character, so unsuited for the job. It's incredible he ever became President.
No it was not
Clinton Woman called Half of USA
'basket of deplorables'
[Speaking at a fundraiser, she said
they were "racist, sexist, homophobic,
xenophobic, Islamophobic - you name it".]
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 10:53 AM
No it was not
Clinton Woman called Half of USA
'basket of deplorables'
[Speaking at a fundraiser, she said
they were "racist, sexist, homophobic,
xenophobic, Islamophobic - you name it".]
That quote looking as accurate today as it always was.
arista
08-01-2021, 11:32 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErJjYHZW4AAfbDI?format=jpg&name=small
Iraq issues arrest warrant for Trump over Soleimani killing...
BAGHDAD (AP) — An arrest warrant was issued Thursday for outgoing President Donald Trump in connection with the killing of an Iranian general and a powerful Iraqi militia leader last year, Iraq's judiciary said.
The warrant was issued by a judge in Baghdad's investigative court tasked with probing the Washington-directed drone strike that killed Gen. Qassim Soleimani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, the court's media office said. They were killed outside the capital’s airport last January.
Al-Muhandis was the deputy leader of the state-sanctioned Popular Mobilization Forces, an umbrella group composed of an array of militias, including Iran-backed groups, formed to fight the Islamic State group.
...full article...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/iraq-court-issues-arrest-warrant-105705391.html
arista
08-01-2021, 01:23 PM
Iraq has no chance of getting Trump.
arista
08-01-2021, 01:26 PM
With his new overnight statement
he accepts he has lost
and ready to hand over.
So off to Florida
or Scotland.
arista
08-01-2021, 02:08 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/08/08/37757418-9124523-image-a-80_1610096275232.jpg
The New Fence will
keep the Punks out.
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 02:18 PM
With his new overnight statement
he accepts he has lost
and ready to hand over.
So off to Florida
or Scotland.
He ended it by saying "it's just beginning..."
The statement was an attempt to keep himself in office so he can carry on with the pardons.
arista
08-01-2021, 02:24 PM
He ended it by saying "it's just beginning..."
The statement was an attempt to keep himself in office so he can carry on with the pardons.
Sure the Ending is a problem.
But at least he is now stable and ready to
hand over to the next power.
arista
08-01-2021, 03:12 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/08/10/37759662-9125611-image-a-12_1610101960855.jpg
You Extreme Punk, get out of Nancy's chair
arista
08-01-2021, 03:13 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/01/08/10/37729488-9125611-image-a-41_1610102778296.jpg
James
08-01-2021, 03:57 PM
This ironic video came up in my YouTube recommendations.
7iNrUDBhl5w
'Joe Biden SHUTS DOWN Democratic Congresswoman "It is Over". Gets Standing Ovation From GOP 1/6/17'.
arista
08-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Trump Will not attend Biden Inauguration
Ref: SkyNewsHD, FoxnewsHD
Good. His absence befits his legacy and will ring in highlight reels for years to come. The big, stupid baby.
arista
08-01-2021, 04:44 PM
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AnnieK
08-01-2021, 04:48 PM
Good. His absence befits his legacy and will ring in highlight reels for years to come. The big, stupid baby.
Agreed
im sure many are relieved that he is not going, he is a reminder of a very recent dark time. I do have to wonder if its a signal to his extremist friends that he wont be there so they can do what they want
joeysteele
08-01-2021, 05:36 PM
Good. His absence befits his legacy and will ring in highlight reels for years to come. The big, stupid baby.
Spot on I'd say what you say there.
It is good.
LaLaLand
08-01-2021, 05:50 PM
Aw I bet Biden/Harris are GUTTED. :joker:
With his new overnight statement
he accepts he has lost
and ready to hand over.
So off to Florida
or Scotland.That's false. There's nowhere in his statement where he says he lost.
They'll be a peaceful transition from his first term to his second.
Joe Biden was never mentioned once in Trumps statement.
Trump ended by saying, this is just the begining
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 06:13 PM
Good decision even if it was for petty reason. He'd have been too much of distraction
On the other hand, at least he now acknowledges there will be an inauguration and Joe Biden will be sworn in as the 46th President. He knows he is going and there is nothing he can do about it. He must be going out of his mind :laugh:
Trump Will not attend Biden Inauguration
Ref: SkyNewsHD, FoxnewsHDBecause there won't be one, he'll be attending his own instead.
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 06:17 PM
Bye Trump
https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf9048762fea9562f6e173efe262d36/tenor.gif
LaLaLand
08-01-2021, 06:18 PM
Bye Trump
https://media.tenor.com/images/bbf9048762fea9562f6e173efe262d36/tenor.gif
Queen Kamala. I love her.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 06:18 PM
Because there won't be one, he'll be attending his own instead.Ermm....there will be cuz its all planned. They've booked the rooms and everything. The inauguration is going to take place whether the Trumpists like it or not..
Ermm....there will be cuz its all planned. They've booked the rooms and everything. The inauguration is going to take place whether the Trumpists like it or not..Maybe that is when the arrests will take place? For the World to see.
Mystic Mock
08-01-2021, 06:20 PM
Videos like this actually make me feel some sympathy for many of these people to be honest. Yes, what they have tried to do is absolutely ****ing insane and horrifying BUT you can often tell that they genuinely, 100%, believe in what they have been told. They really believe that Trump won, that he is there to save them from oppression and that they have a noble cause that is being stamped out and they are genuinely distressed.
They've been radicalized by their own president and now it's falling apart. He's ruined these peoples' lives :shrug:.
I agree with this.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 06:23 PM
Maybe that is when the arrests will take place? For the World to see.
Whos gonna be arrested and what crimes have been committed? Trump wont be there so .....?:conf:
Niamh.
08-01-2021, 06:25 PM
Maybe that is when the arrests will take place? For the World to see.The world wouldn't see him being arrested if he's not going :idc:
Whos gonna be arrested and what crimes have been committed? Trump wont be there so .....?:conf:You know the crime, they stole an election. Who? Whoever is guilty.
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 06:32 PM
You know the crime, they stole an election. Who? Whoever is guilty.
Alf, were you having conversations with your television again? :hehe:
user104658
08-01-2021, 06:33 PM
You know the crime, they stole an election. Who? Whoever is guilty.As Alf can't see my posts, for the benefit of everyone else... although I'm sure we all know:
Its fairly evident at this point that Alf is trolling.
AnnieK
08-01-2021, 06:33 PM
That's false. There's nowhere in his statement where he says he lost.
They'll be a peaceful transition from his first term to his second.
Joe Biden was never mentioned once in Trumps statement.
Trump ended by saying, this is just the begining
He also said he won't be attending the inauguration, pretty strange if he is going to be sworn in again
Ramsay
08-01-2021, 06:35 PM
As Alf can't see my posts, for the benefit of everyone else... although I'm sure we all know:
Its fairly evident at this point that Alf is trolling.
Yep for sure
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 06:38 PM
As Alf can't see my posts, for the benefit of everyone else... although I'm sure we all know:
Its fairly evident at this point that Alf is trolling.
I don't think we're allowed to accuse folks of the "t-word" on here. :laugh:
user104658
08-01-2021, 06:38 PM
On the off chance that Alf can see my posts though... Incase he's peekin' or someone else wants to offer this up to him... I have a gentleman's wager in mind :hee:.
Alf - will you put your TiBB money where your mouth is? I'm even offering a lopsided wager because I think my odds are so good. So here it is;
If Trump is properly and officially sworn in as president at any time in 2021... I will leave the forum permanently. No ifs, ands or buts... No sad farewells... I'll just go, forever.
If (when) Biden is sworn in and becomes the next president, you don't have to leave. All you have to do, is make a post saying "I'm sorry everyone, I've been a fool and was taken in by all of the hype and nonsense, obviously I have been very silly, and TS is and always has been smarter than me."
That's the wager.
(note: if Trump somehow remains president via violent coup or illegal means the bet is void, this is only for the proper legal result of an election)
arista
08-01-2021, 06:40 PM
That's false. There's nowhere in his statement where he says he lost.
They'll be a peaceful transition from his first term to his second.
Joe Biden was never mentioned once in Trumps statement.
Trump ended by saying, this is just the begining
Trump has said The Next Leader (Biden) can take over.
Yep for sureIs he sulking because he can no longer chat with King Alfred?
Ramsay
08-01-2021, 06:41 PM
On the off chance that Alf can see my posts though... Incase he's peekin' or someone else wants to offer this up to him... I have a gentleman's wager in mind :hee:.
Alf - will you put your TiBB money where your mouth is? I'm even offering a lopsided wager because I think my odds are so good. So here it is;
If Trump is properly and officially sworn in as president at any time in 2021... I will leave the forum permanently. No ifs, ands or buts... No sad farewells... I'll just go, forever.
If (when) Biden is sworn in and becomes the next president, you don't have to leave. All you have to do, is make a post saying "I'm sorry everyone, I've been a fool and was taken in by all of the hype and nonsense, obviously I have been very silly, and TS is and always has been smarter than me."
That's the wager.
(note: if Trump somehow remains president via violent coup or illegal means the bet is void, this is only for the proper legal result of an election)
I like this wager
Trump has said The Next Leader (Biden) can take over.Didn't say Biden though, the next leader (Trump) can take over.
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 06:42 PM
On the off chance that Alf can see my posts though... Incase he's peekin' or someone else wants to offer this up to him... I have a gentleman's wager in mind :hee:.
Alf - will you put your TiBB money where your mouth is? I'm even offering a lopsided wager because I think my odds are so good. So here it is;
If Trump is properly and officially sworn in as president at any time in 2021... I will leave the forum permanently. No ifs, ands or buts... No sad farewells... I'll just go, forever.
If (when) Biden is sworn in and becomes the next president, you don't have to leave. All you have to do, is make a post saying "I'm sorry everyone, I've been a fool and was taken in by all of the hype and nonsense, obviously I have been very silly, and TS is and always has been smarter than me."
That's the wager.
(note: if Trump somehow remains president via violent coup or illegal means the bet is void, this is only for the proper legal result of an election)
Oop :hehe:
Quoting this so Alfred can see it.I'll have to put you on ignore, if you keep doing that purposely, don't let me do that to you Slim.
AnnieK
08-01-2021, 06:46 PM
Didn't say Biden though, the next leader (Trump) can take over.
How though if he's not attending the inauguration?
The Slim Reaper
08-01-2021, 06:49 PM
I'll have to put you on ignore, if you keep doing that purposely, don't let me do that to you Slim.
I deleted it because It had already been quoted.
You're not putting me on ignore, regardless.
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 06:57 PM
Anyway, can’t wait for January 20th :love:
https://media0.giphy.com/media/KEYUHJvYFQiPqqFTAF/giphy.gif
GoldHeart
08-01-2021, 06:58 PM
Trump's latest speech is the most slimy backpedaling I've ever seen.
user104658
08-01-2021, 06:59 PM
I'll have to put you on ignore, if you keep doing that purposely, don't let me do that to you Slim.Not very confident :shrug:
Denver
08-01-2021, 07:02 PM
Didn't say Biden though, the next leader (Trump) can take over.
The only thing Trump is leading is a massive line ti prison
arista
08-01-2021, 07:06 PM
Biden is Live on SkyNewsHD
Biden is Live on SkyNewsHDPeople arne't bothered. People have never been bothered or interested in Biden. That's why we know that he didn't receive the most votes in election history.
Trump's latest speech is the most slimy backpedaling I've ever seen.I thought it might be. What a coincidence that you're not a fan of his.
SherzyK
08-01-2021, 07:34 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/Nf4sMJcj/3-B29-C071-6520-4950-AF35-E1-C26314-B8-E3.jpg
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 07:34 PM
I heard Trump likes to eat cat dung
I heard Trump likes to eat cat dungDid you and I have a discussion about you being a conspiracy theorist, yesterday?
Scarlett.
08-01-2021, 07:56 PM
Did you and I have a discussion about you being a conspiracy theorist, yesterday?
Oh, I saw you posting outright bull****, so I thought I might give it a go
Oh, I saw you posting outright bull****, so I thought I might give it a goHow did it feel?
GoldHeart
08-01-2021, 08:05 PM
I thought it might be. What a coincidence that you're not a fan of his.
What's that supposed to mean??, and why would I be a fan of someone that petulant and unstable , it's actually scary someone that diabolical was in power in the first place . But you can defend him all you like :bored: .
What's that supposed to mean??, and why would I be a fan of someone that petulant and unstable , it's actually scary someone that diabolical was in power in the first place . But you can defend him all you like :bored: .Thanks for your permission.
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 09:27 PM
Donald Trump is 'most incompetent president' in US history, says Joe Biden (https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-is-most-incompetent-president-in-us-history-says-joe-biden-12182710)
Donald Trump is 'most incompetent president' in US history, says Joe Biden (https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-is-most-incompetent-president-in-us-history-says-joe-biden-12182710)Translated, that means: Joe Biden didn't make as much money as he should have over the last four years.
Of course he's angry, what do you expect him to do, get a regular job? He makes his millions by being a public servant.
Mystic Mock
08-01-2021, 10:20 PM
Didn't say Biden though, the next leader (Trump) can take over.
I think to put the Trump supporters minds to rest they should have other countries do an investigation into the result, and if nothing untoward shows up against Biden then Trump and his supporters will need to accept the result.
I personally think that the result is legit, but it never hurts to double check I suppose.
And btw Alf how can Trump takeover from himself?:laugh:
GiRTh
08-01-2021, 11:08 PM
frRypF3PS5M
:bored:
In as much as Lyndsey Graham is a snivelling lying two-faced weasel, these are the Trump supporters
I think to put the Trump supporters minds to rest they should have other countries do an investigation into the result, and if nothing untoward shows up against Biden then Trump and his supporters will need to accept the result.
I personally think that the result is legit, but it never hurts to double check I suppose.
And btw Alf how can Trump takeover from himself?:laugh:
There was an independent foreign team that observed the election and said everything was fine
What do you say, Sticks?
Is it over? Are they gonna get busted? Am I flogging a dead horse here?
Sticks
09-01-2021, 05:41 AM
Has a rotund lady sung yet?
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 02:58 PM
Nothing will be 'good enough' for Trump supporters since they run on delusion. They don't want to believe the election was fair and so they won't. All the evidence in the world won't convince them because they believe their feelings are more important than facts, an ironic thing considering one of the Far Right's favoured people, Ben Shapiro has always said the 'facts don't care about your feelings' **** yet the Right Wing regularly rely on feelings over facts.
People who still believe the election was 'stolen' or rigged regardless of evidence are in serious need of help because they've lost touch with reality.
Has a rotund lady sung yet?
no, but a small handed baby will soon board an aircraft and hide in a foreign country
arista
09-01-2021, 04:09 PM
Nothing will be 'good enough' for Trump supporters since they run on delusion. They don't want to believe the election was fair and so they won't. All the evidence in the world won't convince them because they believe their feelings are more important than facts, an ironic thing considering one of the Far Right's favoured people, Ben Shapiro has always said the 'facts don't care about your feelings' **** yet the Right Wing regularly rely on feelings over facts.
People who still believe the election was 'stolen' or rigged regardless of evidence are in serious need of help because they've lost touch with reality.
I am sure they really know
he has lost now he said he is handing over.
It appears they are now saying the next Election
in 4 years time
5/Nov/2024
I am sure they really know
he has lost now he said he is handing over.
It appears they are now saying the next Election
in 4 years time
5/Nov/2024He didn't say who he was handing over to. Which is classic Trump. You have to really listen to the words he uses. Words are important.
arista
09-01-2021, 04:27 PM
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GoldHeart
09-01-2021, 04:38 PM
Trump shouldn't be allowed to run again in 4 years time , if he had an ounce of sense he'd crawl back under his rock and stay there . But we all know he loves the media attention .
arista
09-01-2021, 04:45 PM
Trump shouldn't be allowed to run again in 4 years time , if he had an ounce of sense he'd crawl back under his rock and stay there . But we all know he loves the media attention .
Could he Win again?
GiRTh
09-01-2021, 04:49 PM
1347882069486039041Florida? One of the other people arrested was from Arkansas. These guys have literally travelled thousands of miles for this protest. Was it worth it? Was it a just cause? :laugh:
Florida? One of the other people arrested was from Arkansas. These guys have literally travelled thousands of miles for this protest. Was it worth it? Was it a just cause? :laugh:Definitely worth it, we're talking about it. The World is talking about it, the World is watching, all eyes are on America. Everybody knows something's not quite right, but we don't know exactly what yet.
GiRTh
09-01-2021, 05:16 PM
Definitely worth it, we're talking about it. The World is talking about it, the World is watching, all eyes are on America. Everybody knows something's not quite right, but we don't know exactly what yet.No. Not many people think there is any thing wrong with the election at all. Not many sane people anyway. Maybe something wrong with these assholes and their sense of privilege. No, the election has been counted and called many times. Joe Biden will be sworn in on 20th January.
Who was it who was asking have Congress got nothing better to do than start another impeachment trial. Dont these idiots have any more substance in their lives that they travel 1000s of miles because their boy lost.
Florida? One of the other people arrested was from Arkansas. These guys have literally travelled thousands of miles for this protest. Was it worth it? Was it a just cause? :laugh:
...I wonder if he was going to put that lectern on EBay ....or maybe have it as a side table in his home with a lamp on...?...
SherzyK
09-01-2021, 05:17 PM
...I wonder if he was going to put that lectern on EBay ....or maybe have it as a side table in his home with a lamp on...?...
He would have made himself to be a bigger idiot than he already was...
user104658
09-01-2021, 05:20 PM
Definitely worth it, we're talking about it. The World is talking about it, the World is watching, all eyes are on America. Everybody knows something's not quite right, but we don't know exactly what yet."Somethings not right about the machinations of global politics"
:omgno: you don't say! It's like people have just suddenly figured out something that has been evident for decades if not centuries.
... But deciding that the answer is Trump and his brigade of neo-nazis is really quite something special. Honestly. "Oh no... This house has a problem with mice. Oh wait, I have an idea! If we fill the place with rats, there will be no more room for the mice! Genius!"
He would have made himself to be a bigger idiot than he already was...
...their actions had already taken them way beyond any ‘idiot’ thought processing, Sherzy....
SherzyK
09-01-2021, 05:21 PM
...there actions had already taken them way beyond any ‘idiot’ thought processing, Sherzy....
A bad reflection on actual citizens of the US who respect the democratic process. The world is really seeing how pitiful and stupid these Trump supporters are
arista
09-01-2021, 05:23 PM
Alf on the 20th of Jan Weds
Joe Biden becomes President.
Now Alf
you must fully understand
and that.
Alf on the 20th of Jan Weds
Joe Biden becomes President.
Now Alf
you must fully understand
and that.I understand what you're saying, I understand why you'd say and think it. All I'm saying is, let's wait and see. What's the big deal?
If Biden has already won, why do you care so much that people would have a theory about it?
9/11 happened, people still have a theory about it, JFK assassination happened, people still have theories about it. People have theories about Madaline Mccann and Making a murderer. What's different about having a theory about the Presidential election? why does it get people angry?
A bad reflection on actual citizens of the US who respect the democratic process. The world is really seeing how pitiful and stupid these Trump supporters are
....Biden’s focus is fully on the COVID vaccines and getting it administered as quickly as possible ...America now have a leader who values life and that’s a great beginning again for them...:love:...
what i find interesting is the way so many have been so brazen and public about what are federal crimes.With federal crimes, there is no negotiation, you serve the full sentence, and some of these people will go down for a long time
I'm guessing that Trump has promised to pardon some or all of them and thats why they are behaving as they are .... we will see what happens before the 20th
Nicky91
09-01-2021, 05:37 PM
....Biden’s focus is fully on the COVID vaccines and getting it administered as quickly as possible ...America now have a leader who values life and that’s a great beginning again for them...:love:...
exactly
that, and where his focus also more should be is great communication between him and all state governors (something what Trump didn't do so well at)
and also getting lockdowns sooner through, what Trump had been against either
main priority now should on bringing hospitalisation numbers down, new case numbers down
getting rid of corona first, and afterwards when corona is completely gone, rebuilding the economy, helping middle class survive that economic crisis
user104658
09-01-2021, 05:38 PM
what i find interesting is the way so many have been so brazen and public about what are federal crimes.With federal crimes, there is no negotiation, you serve the full sentence, and some of these people will go down for a long time
I'm guessing that Trump has promised to pardon some or all of them and thats why they are behaving as they are .... we will see what happens before the 20thFrom various "Street interviews" of participants I think many of them simply don't know or understand what they've gotten into. Genuine confusion that the authorities turned against them, and a belief that their actions were what they were "supposed to be doing as patriots" so how could they be in trouble?
A mindset crafted for years by Trump et al, of course.
SherzyK
09-01-2021, 05:38 PM
....Biden’s focus is fully on the COVID vaccines and getting it administered as quickly as possible ...America now have a leader who values life and that’s a great beginning again for them...:love:...
Here’s to what’s hopefully going to be a great future for our American compadres :love:
https://media1.tenor.com/images/adf8a4c88fc258d00288b72b7f6f043e/tenor.gif?itemid=8335304
arista
09-01-2021, 05:46 PM
I understand what you're saying, I understand why you'd say and think it. All I'm saying is, let's wait and see. What's the big deal?
If Biden has already won, why do you care so much that people would have a theory about it?
9/11 happened, people still have a theory about it, JFK assassination happened, people still have theories about it. People have theories about Madaline Mccann and Making a murderer. What's different about having a theory about the Presidential election? why does it get people angry?
Biden Won more seats than Trump
Biden Won more Public votes than Trump
Trump did well getting over 70Million votes
but Joe Biden did better getting over 80million votes
Its not me thinking this
the Whole World know's it Alf.
So stop all this silly stuff
user104658
09-01-2021, 06:21 PM
Well who would guessed it... I've just 5 minutes ago stumbled across a conspiracy theory asserting that the "transition Trump is talking about is to his own new administration!!"
...
What is the origin of this? Hmmm...... Hmmmmmmm...
Oh its QAnon, such surprise. Ffs Alf get off those sites :joker:.
SherzyK
09-01-2021, 06:23 PM
Well who would guessed it... I've just 5 minutes ago stumbled across a conspiracy theory asserting that the "transition Trump is talking about is to his own new administration!!"
...
What is the origin of this? Hmmm...... Hmmmmmmm...
Oh its QAnon, such surprise. Ffs Alf get off those sites :joker:.
:skull:
Oliver_W
09-01-2021, 06:25 PM
What even is QAnon? I've only heard of it in the context of people bitching about it. Is it the latest version of 4chan or something?
user104658
09-01-2021, 06:27 PM
Literally every thought and "personal opinion" and thing that Alf claims has just been his observations "with his own eyes" is being parrotted from QAnon sources almost verbatim. He's acting purely as tibbs very own QAnon mouthpiece. Why is he doing it? Has he genuinely gone down the rabbit hole? Does he just think its a good troll? I can't answer that but I honestly think this crap should be under staff scrutiny. I know we're just a small forum but :shrug:... Pages upon pages of propaganda going unchecked is a bit concerning.
user104658
09-01-2021, 06:28 PM
What even is QAnon? I've only heard of it in the context of people bitching about it. Is it the latest version of 4chan or something?Yes 4chan style conspiracy theory nonsense, mainly centred around Trump. Heavily favoured by the US far right and - ironically enough - a heavy Russian bot presence on Social Media.
arista
09-01-2021, 06:31 PM
Well who would guessed it... I've just 5 minutes ago stumbled across a conspiracy theory asserting that the "transition Trump is talking about is to his own new administration!!"
...
What is the origin of this? Hmmm...... Hmmmmmmm...
Oh its QAnon, such surprise. Ffs Alf get off those sites :joker:.
They are Bonkers.
eating babies
Jelly Babies
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0266/7770/6806/products/13914-01_1_300x.jpg?v=1593001074
user104658
09-01-2021, 06:32 PM
They are Bonkers.
eating babies
Jelly Babies
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0266/7770/6806/products/13914-01_1_300x.jpg?v=1593001074That is bonkers because Jelly Babies aren't even as nice as they used to be. I reckon some of the flavourings must have been banned or something.
arista
09-01-2021, 06:33 PM
That is bonkers because Jelly Babies aren't even as nice as they used to be. I reckon some of the flavourings must have been banned or something.
[FREE Delivery for Prime members
Temporarily out of stock.]
Yes TS they eat Babies
What even is QAnon? I've only heard of it in the context of people bitching about it. Is it the latest version of 4chan or something?Nobody knows exactly what it is, or else we'd all know.
The general consensus is that it's a psyop to lead the Trump supporters down a dead end.
The people that believe in it, think that Trump is Q and there's a plan.
Please don't take any notice of false allegations by bitter people about me parroting them, I'm not. I don't believe there's a plan. I just don't think something sits right at the moment.
Sorry for breaking my promise, but this will be the last I say until inauguration day, I just needed to clear that up.
Ramsay
09-01-2021, 07:05 PM
It's a 4/8chan troll that's gotten way out of hand
user104658
09-01-2021, 07:07 PM
Nobody knows exactly what it is, or else we'd all know.
The general consensus is that it's a psyop to lead the Trump supporters down a dead end.
The people that believe in it, think that Trump is Q and there's a plan.
Please don't take any notice of false allegations by bitter people about me parroting them, I'm not. I don't believe there's a plan. I just don't think something sits right at the moment.
Sorry for breaking my promise, but this will be the last I say until inauguration day, I just needed to clear that up.
Yes it's just coincidence that everything Alf has observed has also been shared all over the place by QAnon koolaid drinkers. And that the Judas "30 pieces of silver" comment was being spammed by QAnon bots all over twitter at the same time Alf coincidentally said it on here. And that he thinks the "transition of power" will be from trump to trump which was being reported all over SoMed by QAnon parrot accounts. And that it turns out that "countdown" thing last week also originated from activist echo Chambers.
Such a wondrous thing, serendipity.
GoldHeart
09-01-2021, 07:33 PM
Could he Win again?
Hopefully not ,but do we really have to find out :facepalm:
GiRTh
09-01-2021, 09:16 PM
Trump reportedly asked a Georgia elections investigator to 'find the fraud' in the 2020 election in lengthy phone call in December (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-to-pressure-georgia-investigator-to-find-the-fraud-2021-1?r=US&IR=T)
Looks like the only fraud was being committed by Trump
Tom4784
09-01-2021, 09:33 PM
Yes it's just coincidence that everything Alf has observed has also been shared all over the place by QAnon koolaid drinkers. And that the Judas "30 pieces of silver" comment was being spammed by QAnon bots all over twitter at the same time Alf coincidentally said it on here. And that he thinks the "transition of power" will be from trump to trump which was being reported all over SoMed by QAnon parrot accounts. And that it turns out that "countdown" thing last week also originated from activist echo Chambers.
Such a wondrous thing, serendipity.
It's quite sad really, how people become so easily radicalised.
arista
10-01-2021, 12:21 AM
'QAnon Shaman' Jake Angeli charged over pro-Trump riots
https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/E1C9/production/_116410875_angeli2-gettyimages-1294935359-1.jpg
[Jacob Anthony Chansley, known as Jake Angeli,
is in custody on charges including
violent entry and disorderly conduct.
Mr Chansley, who calls
himself the QAnon Shaman,
is allegedly the man pictured
with a painted face, fur hat and
horns inside Congress on Wednesday.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55606044
Meanwhile Nancy wants to start a 2nd
Impeachment charge
for his role in the unrest to start Monday or Tuesday.
Ramsay
10-01-2021, 12:22 AM
So much for him being antifa
user104658
10-01-2021, 12:34 AM
So much for him being antifaThat was debunked within hours, the full uncropped picture of him at the BLM thing was posted on Reddit... He's holding a sign that says "Q sent me"
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErFH-oyXAAQqs-0.jpg
:facepalm:
Ramsay
10-01-2021, 12:36 AM
Hahaha
R/conspiracy is the best echo chamber to have a laugh at, they were all full sure
arista
10-01-2021, 12:44 AM
CNN reports
Members of the NYC Fire Department
were in the Capitol building
As the FBI go through all the Faces from Videos.
One UK reporter was in the that building with the Mob,
they did not mind him as he was British.
ITVnewsHD Robert Moore
https://www.itv.com/news/2021-01-06/watch-itv-news-eyewitness-report-from-inside-the-us-capitol-as-protesters-storm-building
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Sticks
10-01-2021, 05:18 PM
There are some church people on Facebook that seem to support what the protesters have done over the UNDemocratic Party.
There is still the Inauguration to get to, but with the seventh amendment rights regarding the right to bear arms, I wonder if an armed militia will turn up for it. I have read in the press that the secret service are worried about security for the ceremony in light of what happened in the Capitol Building.
Anyone heard any melodious rotund females recently?
There are some church people on Facebook that seem to support what the protesters have done over the UNDemocratic Party.
There is still the Inauguration to get to, but with the seventh amendment rights regarding the right to bear arms, I wonder if an armed militia will turn up for it. I have read in the press that the secret service are worried about security for the ceremony in light of what happened in the Capitol Building.
Anyone heard any melodious rotund females recently? I'm hearing lots of things about Italy, and their involvement, there were rumours that the Italian president/Prime minister (Don't know what they have) was arrested, although I've seen nothing strong to confirm that.
There was stories of some sort of Blackout at The Vatican yesterday.
Do all roads lead to Rome?
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 05:27 PM
There are some church people on Facebook that seem to support what the protesters have done over the UNDemocratic Party.
There is still the Inauguration to get to, but with the seventh amendment rights regarding the right to bear arms, I wonder if an armed militia will turn up for it. I have read in the press that the secret service are worried about security for the ceremony in light of what happened in the Capitol Building.
Anyone heard any melodious rotund females recently? I imagine there'll be a few singing at the Inauguration Ceremony. Obama had Aretha Franklin but sadly she is not longer available. I'll point them out to you and that will be the end of it.
I imagine there'll be a few singing at the Inauguration Ceremony. Obama had Aretha Franklin but sadly she is not longer available. I'll point them out to you and that will be the end of it.I hear Taylor Swift is booked. She's about 6 stone wet through.
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I hear Taylor Swift is booked. She's about 6 stone wet through.
:laugh:
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:30 PM
I'm hearing lots of things about Italy, and their involvement, there were rumours that the Italian president/Prime minister (Don't know what they have) was arrested, although I've seen nothing strong to confirm that.
There was stories of some sort of Blackout at The Vatican yesterday.
Do all roads lead to Rome?
You're not hearing them, Italy was the conspiracy put forward by Q.
You're not hearing them, Italy was the conspiracy put forward by Q.Been following Q have you?
Where do you follow it? because I can't find a thing on Twitter, they're all banned.
You're not hearing them, Italy was the conspiracy put forward by Q.Do you mean Lin Wood?
Not sure if he's a Qanon, he's a lawyer I believe, he's the one who's been pushing Italy stuff.
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:38 PM
Been following Q have you?
Where do you follow it? because I can't find a thing on Twitter, they're all banned.
I was making posts/threads about Q ages ago. A lot of parler tweets (not sure what to call them) end up on twitter as screen grabs.
4chan, 6chan, and 8chan is where the insanity originated, but I think 8chan is the best source these days.
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:40 PM
Do you mean Lin Wood?
Not sure if he's a Qanon, he's a lawyer I believe, he's the one who's been pushing Italy stuff.
I read a screen grab of Q talking about Italy (on the day of the capitol shenanigans), the others have followed.
I read a screen grab of Q talking about Italy (on the day of the capitol shenanigans), the others have followed.Are you sure it was Q?
Q doesn't tweet, all Q does is from time to time drops cryptic messages on I don't know which platform, I assume it's one of those chans. The Qanons call them Q drops.
I'll try and find you a Q drop on twitter, so that you understand what Q is a little better. If you'd like me to?
The Slim Reaper
10-01-2021, 05:47 PM
Are you sure it was Q?
Q doesn't tweet, all Q does is from time to time drops cryptic messages. The Qanons call them Q drops.
I'll try and find you a Q drop on twitter, so that you understand what Q is a little better. If you'd like me to?
I know he doesn't tweet. It was a screengrab from 8chan (I think).
Sticks
10-01-2021, 05:50 PM
This is the only Q I know of
kBwoEXlTph0
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2021, 05:51 PM
https://static.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20200723/c1_3699135.jpg
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2021, 05:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea-mloaWAAA5Qwc?format=jpg&name=large
This is somebody on twitter, I assume a Qanon, posting a Q drop.
That cryptic message was posted by Q.
The Qanons then try to work out what it means. Obviously with millions of different people trying to work it out, lots of different theories come out.
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I'm just trying to explain to you what Q is. From my understanding of it.
I don't follow it, I don't believe in it, it's just something that happened and came to people's attention this year, I'm just chatting about it, because I thought this was a forum?
arista
10-01-2021, 06:29 PM
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Anyone heard any melodious rotund females recently?
Try your church group, maybe?
Crimson Dynamo
10-01-2021, 06:43 PM
1348249481284874240
i half expected at the end to see an offer from Franklyn Mint to but the Conan Sword over 6 easy payments for $456.66
arista
10-01-2021, 06:44 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErYqqgLXMAA2uB7?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErYqqgLW8AAF5Zo?format=jpg&name=small
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 06:52 PM
Pence has announced he will be attending the Inauguration ceremony.
Wouldn't it be funny if Melania turned up without Donnie. :laugh: I wonder how long before she files divorce papers.
Parmy
10-01-2021, 07:12 PM
I wouldn't turn up to Biden's thing either after seeing his last regal performance on youtube.
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 08:11 PM
Pence has NOT ruled out using the 25th Amendment but fears Trump will do something to 'jeopardize national security' if he does - as it's revealed VP heard MAGA mob chanting 'Hang Mike Pence' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130851/Mike-Pence-NOT-ruled-using-25th-Amendment.html)
Decision time for Pence. The Maga's dont seem to like him too much so will he help Donnie in his final days?
Anybody follow Mutya Buena from the Sugababes, on twitter? She was well in to all that Qanon stuff, I just looked at her account and she hasn't posted since August, she still has plenty of posts still on there though.
Of course, I'm only assuming that it's the real Mutya Buena, anybody confirm this?
user104658
10-01-2021, 08:37 PM
Anybody follow Mutya Buena from the Sugababes, on twitter? She was well in to all that Qanon stuff, I just looked at her account and she hasn't posted since August, she still has plenty of posts still on there though.
Of course, I'm only assuming that it's the real Mutya Buena, anybody confirm this?I heard she sold her account for 30 pieces of silver.
Pence has NOT ruled out using the 25th Amendment but fears Trump will do something to 'jeopardize national security' if he does - as it's revealed VP heard MAGA mob chanting 'Hang Mike Pence' (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130851/Mike-Pence-NOT-ruled-using-25th-Amendment.html)
Decision time for Pence. The Maga's dont seem to like him too much so will he help Donnie in his final days?
his family were in the public gallery during the insurrection, a time where the mob were chanting hang Mike Pence and trump was refusing to authorise assistance for the police, so, I dont think Pence will be inclined to help out Trump in his final days
Parmy
10-01-2021, 08:56 PM
Twitter bans trump for words, but allows selfie pics from the day to be aired on its platform and also trumps past quotes, from left wing media Twitter accounts
The new world order has arrived...lock up your children.
It's all very exciting!
Those Americans do know how to make a good movie.
Trump the movie is gonna be an all time classic.
Parmy
10-01-2021, 09:11 PM
The tower
Denver
10-01-2021, 09:15 PM
Do you mean Lin Wood?
Not sure if he's a Qanon, he's a lawyer I believe, he's the one who's been pushing Italy stuff.
The same Lin Wood who was banned from Twitter for threatening to murder someone?
GiRTh
10-01-2021, 09:16 PM
his family were in the public gallery during the insurrection, a time where the mob were chanting hang Mike Pence and trump was refusing to authorise assistance for the police, so, I dont think Pence will be inclined to help out Trump in his final daysJeez, more serious than I thought.
The same Lin Wood who was banned from Twitter for threatening to murder someone?I think he called for the execution of Pence, something along those lines anyway.
Just the same as them who are calling for the execution of Trump, it's tit for tat and all pantomime.
Parmy
10-01-2021, 09:48 PM
I think he called for the execution of Pence, something along those lines anyway.
Just the same as them who are calling for the execution of Trump, it's tit for tat and all pantomime.
Trump must hang from a tree for the world to reset..
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