The Conservative Party New Leader race ELIZABETH TRUSS WINS

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny does come over well

yes id like to see more of her

[arista]

J. Hunt is now backing Rishi Sunak


SkyNewsHD

[Zizu]

J. Hunt is now backing Rishi Sunak


SkyNewsHD


I actually despise Hunt


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[arista]

I actually detest Hunt




You are not alone

[Crimson Dynamo]

Catd-5cpEWc

[Crimson Dynamo]

SIR – Watching ambitious Tories’ insincere attempts at self-promotion is embarrassing. They should, perhaps, heed the words of C S Lewis: “You will never make a good impression on other people until you stop thinking about what sort of impression you are making.”

Mark Macauley
Warminster, Wiltshire

DT

[bots]

J. Hunt is now backing Rishi Sunak


SkyNewsHD

penny ran Hunt's campaign last time and got him to the final 2. So nice of him to not reciprocate and back Sunak :laugh:

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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disgusting troll extreme left newspaper

[Alf]

I don't want any of them. I want Alf as our leader at least then we'd feel in safe hands and we wouldn't feel threatened

[Zizu]

I don't want any of them. I want Alf as our leader at least then we'd feel in safe hands and we wouldn't feel threatened


You can be deputy to David Starkey ..


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[arista]

Reported this morning (GMBHD itv)
Nadhim aged 55 has stated, he will not declare
who is in now backing.

What a silly MP

[arista]

Thérèse Coffey MP
live on SkyNewsHD
is only on there as she backs Liz Truss for PM.


Liz Truss Educated in Scotland

[arista]

Cocky Gillian Keegan MP

Live on Westminster SkyNewsHD

Backing Rich Rishi.


Kay said Liz Truss wants to borrow more.
To help us.

[arista]

Liz Truss does her Sweaty Room
Conference today.

Beth of SkyNews what the hell will she upset her with??????????????

[bots]

This is where the intrigue comes into play, with strategic voting to knock people out or to artificially boost an opponent that they think they can beat later :laugh:

[arista]

Yes this Afternoon
I think Suella will go

[Zizu]

Reported this morning (GMBHD itv)
Nadhim aged 55 has stated, he will not declare
who is in now backing.

What a silly MP


He will be fishing for favours / promises


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[Zizu]

Liz Truss does her Sweaty Room
Conference today.

Beth of SkyNews what the hell will she upset her with??????????????


This is the time to wheel out Kay Burley ..

She’d ask the un-askable questions after searching through Google “scandals and skeletons”



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[bots]

the support/endorsement thing is a farce. It's always tied to a future cabinet position if the candidate then wins, they dont give a crap about whether they are best for the job or not :laugh:

[Cherie]

Reported this morning (GMBHD itv)
Nadhim aged 55 has stated, he will not declare
who is in now backing.

What a silly MP

I think all these votes for Rishi are fake and they will turn on him if he reaches the final 2

[arista]

I think all these votes for Rishi are fake and they will turn on him if he reaches the final 2


That will be fun.

[bots]

I think all these votes for Rishi are fake and they will turn on him if he reaches the final 2

i think Rishi is maxed out on votes. The final 2 will be liz and penny. This weekend, the mp's will go back to their constituencies where they will then be told who to vote for. Currently, that is Penny if the polls are to be believed

[arista]

2 Women?

Labour will not like that

[Cherie]

i think Rishi is maxed out on votes. The final 2 will be liz and penny. This weekend, the mp's will go back to their constituencies where they will then be told who to vote for. Currently, that is Penny if the polls are to be believed

Still holding out for an upset and Tom taking it

[joeysteele]

2 Women?

Labour will not like that

It would have been 2 women in 2016 had Leadsom not dropped out at the last minute.

That was actually a bonus for Corbyn and Labour as Theresa May very nearly took the Cons out of power.

As a Labour member, I now don't fear any of these candidates.
Truss can't be trusted at all in my view.
Mordaunt is more and more looking like a Theresa May style probable leader.

Only one I think who has any kind of real political integrity now is Tom Tugendhat.

In the last 7 years the Cons have had 3 general elections, and we are now heading for the 4th different Prime Minister in that time.
With 3 different PMs in the last 3 years alone from 2019.

None of that screams consistency, continuity OR even competence.
In my view.

[bots]

It's strong and stable Joey :laugh:

[joeysteele]

It's strong and stable Joey :laugh:

:joker: nice one bots.

[arista]

Penny has a Twin Gay Brother

Ref: Ch5HD AM Live Debate

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny has a Twin Gay Brother

Ref: Ch5HD AM Live Debate

is she a lesbian?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lord Frost, the former Brexit chief negotiator, has told Talk TV he would have "grave reservations" about Penny Mordaunt becoming Prime Minister.

Citing his time working alongside her during the Brexit negotiations, when Mordaunt served as his junior, Lord Frost said she "wasn't fully accountable or always visible".

"To be honest, I'm quite surprised she is where she is in this race. She was my deputy - notionally more than really - in the Brexit talks last year," he said.

"I'm sorry to say this, she did not master the necessary detail in the negotiations last year. She wouldn't always deliver tough messages to the European Union when that was necessary and I'm afraid she wasn't fully accountable or always visible. Sometimes I didn't even know where she was."

"I'm afraid this became such a problem that after 6 months I had to ask the PM to move her on and find somebody else to support me."

"From the basis of what I saw, I would have grave reservations."


DT

[arista]

is she a lesbian?



No

[arista]

Liz Truss LIVE


on all 4 UK News Channels



Her Free Enterprise group,
and standing up to Putin.

[arista]

Rude Beth first to ask Questions



Johnson Kiss of Death, help

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liz Truss droning on about "delivering"

yawn

[joeysteele]

Liz Truss LIVE


on all 4 UK News Channels


Oh dear, she's not coming over too well.
I'm pleased neither Rees-Mogg or Dorries introduced her.
Not really saying much though is she.

Why do politicians of all Parties not just spell things out factually and stop talking to voters like they are still in a classroom.

[arista]

She is a Remain
voter

ITV Lady told her

She is dealing with Brexit
and backs it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ms Truss said that families are a "vital part of our lives and a "crucial building block for a stable society".

for crying out loud say something different and not bloody obvious

and stop saying deliver its way way too obvious

[arista]

Day 1


Liz Truss
will have a Budget


Yes Sept 5

Good one

[arista]

Liz will pay debt longer

Take More Money
to keep us better off

Defence will get 3%

[arista]

She has now Halted Questions

[joeysteele]

Liz will pay debt longer

Take More Money
to keep us better off

Defence will get 3%

She said she wants 3% defence spending by the END of the decade .
That's 8 YEARS off.

She came over as more false than not, another kicking into the long grass one again as to some issues.

[arista]

She said she wants 3% defence spending by the END of the decade .
That's 8 YEARS off.

She came over as more false than not, another kicking into the long grass one again as to some issues.


On that Live Feed
she said 3%

not 8 years

[joeysteele]

On that Live Feed
she said 3%

not 8 years

By the end of the decade she said after that.
The end of the decade is around 8 years away.

She didn't say 3% now or by the end of this parliament.

[arista]

By the end of the decade she said after that.
The end of the decade is around 8 years away.

She didn't say 3% now or by the end of this parliament.

No one is in Power for 8 years


Its 4 years now

[Crimson Dynamo]

I will not surrender, says Tom Tugendhat

Tom Tugendhat said he would not withdraw from the Tory leadership race despite
coming fifth in the first round of voting.

"I'm still in this fight," he told reporters in Westminster.

He said picking up 37 votes as a backbencher showed there was an appetite for a "clean
start".

[arista]

Of Course Tom
is a fighter

But without a Massive MP backing


HE CAN Piss Off

[joeysteele]

No one is in Power for 8 years


Its 4 years now

arista.
Truss stated that not me.

Her words.
She's promising little now and far off intentions.

Watch it again and you'll hear HER say it

[arista]

arista.
Truss stated that not me.

Her words.
She's promising little now and far off intentions.

Watch it again and you'll hear HER say it


OK

[arista]

Tom was on SkyNewsHD


Talking slow
Big Tom Board behind him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Truss has gone down badly

someone said it reminded them of Keir Starmer

:umm2:

[MTVN]

Truss probably has some good ideas but she's just not a strong communicator

I can see her flopping in TV debates and hustings

[arista]

Truss probably has some good ideas but she's just not a strong communicator

I can see her flopping in TV debates and hustings

Yes 3 to do

Friday 7:30PM Ch4HD
Sunday 7PM ITV1HD
Monday 7PM SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Liz Truss
got 4 Ministers now back Her

[joeysteele]

Liz Truss
got 4 Ministers now back Her

3 of them the worst ones.
Rees-Mogg, the deluded Dorries and the truly awful Therese Coffey.
In my view anyhow.

[arista]

3 of them the worst ones.
Rees-Mogg, the deluded Dorries and the truly awful Therese Coffey.
In my view anyhow.


No not them



New ones

[arista]

Kay Burley Live in Westminster Hall

Bossing MP's around

Trying to get a battle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDgVCql6Dw4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ku4s7ZDcyE

Her back on Wicked ITV cartoon

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Lord Frost urges Kemi and Suella to back Liz and unite the right

Lord Frost is understood to be privately urging Suella and Kemi to drop out and back Liz
Truss for leader of the Conservatives, Ben Riley Smith, DT Political Editor, writes.


A friend of Lord Frost said: “While Suella, Kemi and Liz are all extremely good
candidates on the right of the party, he thinks Liz Truss’s evident determination to put
Britain onto a new reforming free-market economic path gives her the edge.


He thinks it’s time for all three to unite behind her and make sure the members get a
candidate who can deliver real economic reform and change.”


-----

get lost Frost

[arista]

The Online Safety Bill
put on hold

Because of this Conservative internal Election.

ref:BBC

[arista]

https://twitter.com/robbiehawkins__/status/1547212517784551424

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

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The silent assassin !!

Watch out Miss Truss


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[joeysteele]

Honestly I do wish they'd stop concentrating so much on polling from the opinion polling organisations.

While voting is going on as well.

I have little to no respect or faith in opinion polling.
They've been wrong so many times even on binary questions such as the EU referendum.

Unfortunately however opinion polling can perhaps influence.

I'd ban the lot of them at least a week before general elections and especially whenever ANY voting was actually taking place.
Often their questioning comes with loaded statements too.

Really annoys me that so much attention gets placed onto opinion polling.

[arista]

3PM

One or two Goes

[Crimson Dynamo]

3PM

One or two Goes

https://www.downsmail.co.uk/_img/pics/jpg_1643638136.jpg

[arista]

Great Kay is Off home


Sophie Ridge takes over

SkyNewsHD
Live inside Parliament Hall

[Crimson Dynamo]

Penny Mordaunt doesn't hit back against Lord Frost comments

Allies of Penny Mordaunt said she had "nothing but respect" for Lord Frost despite his scathing attack on her.


A source in the Penny Mordaunt campaign said: "Penny has nothing but respect for Lord
Frost.

"He did a huge amount to assist our negotiations until he resigned from Government.

"Penny will always fight for Brexit and always has."


Penny is most wise

[arista]

Yes Looking forward to the For the First of 3 TV debates

Lets see who slips up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Voting is closed
Votes are now closed for the second round of the Tory leadership ballot.

Currently Tom Tugendhat and Suella Braverman look to be the most likley to get the
fewest votes and be knocked out of the contest.

Results of the ballot are due at 3pm.

[arista]

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Tick Tock

[Cherie]

Pull through Tom

[bots]

Penny Mordaunt doesn't hit back against Lord Frost comments

Allies of Penny Mordaunt said she had "nothing but respect" for Lord Frost despite his scathing attack on her.


A source in the Penny Mordaunt campaign said: "Penny has nothing but respect for Lord
Frost.

"He did a huge amount to assist our negotiations until he resigned from Government.

"Penny will always fight for Brexit and always has."


Penny is most wise

If that's the worst Frost can come up with against her then I think she will be fine

[arista]

Pull through Tom

No Tom in this Photo

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/07/14/12/60262793-0-image-m-14_1657797586302.jpg

[bots]

whatever the vote spread is today, it will be all changed on monday after their constituency parties tell them who their preference is. If mp's vote against their wishes, there will be trouble

[arista]

SUELLA OUT


only had 27 MP's

[arista]

Lucky 5

Rishi Sunak - 101 (Backing MP's)
Penny Mordaunt - 83
Liz Truss - 64
Kemi Badenoch - 49
Tom Tugendhat - 32

[Cherie]

Lucky 5

Rishi Sunak - 101 (Backing MP's)
Penny Mordaunt - 83
Liz Truss - 64
Kemi Badenoch - 49
Tom Tugendhat - 32

He might not be in the photo but he is on the list :smug:

[arista]

He might not be in the photo but he is on the list :smug:

Toms Vote went down


Yes only until Monday


Penny wants his backers
then.

Also Tom's Clean Start
is an insult to those that vote in 2019

[bots]

several mp's are now agreeing with me that it's looking like penny vs liz in the final 2

[arista]

Predicted to be Kicked out on Monday

TOM

[arista]

several mp's are now agreeing with me that it's looking like penny vs liz in the final 2



Yes Rishi Finds out
on Monday


After 2 TV debates

Will he Make the SkyNewsHD Debate on Monday night?

[arista]

The BBC is expected to host a debate but details have not been announced yet.

[arista]

Who will troublemaker Steve Baker now Back?

[bots]

Who will troublemaker Steve Baker now Back?

one of the right wingers

[Crimson Dynamo]

All five candidates will take part in tomorrow's debate

Channel 4 said all five candidates have confirmed they will take part in its debate on Friday

night, with further televised clashes scheduled for Sunday and Monday.

[arista]

All five candidates will take part in tomorrow's debate

Channel 4 said all five candidates have confirmed they will take part in its debate on Friday

night, with further televised clashes scheduled for Sunday and Monday.


Good

7:30PM Live Ch4HD Friday 15th


Any that skip it
would lose votes

[Zizu]

SUELLA OUT


only had 27 MP's


Predictably afterwards she was asked who she would be backing ...
She said she would take time and look at what each candidate has said and promised ... meaning she will sit back and wait to see who offers her the best job etc


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[Crimson Dynamo]

looking forward to Kemi on with Iain in a mo: LBC

https://www.lbc.co.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tom the Tug is live on LBC

he will be toast next

[Crimson Dynamo]

thoroughly decent man however

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kemi is live

[Zizu]

Predictably afterwards she was asked who she would be backing ...
She said she would take time and look at what each candidate has said and promised ... meaning she will sit back and wait to see who offers her the best job etc


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That was quick .. she must be a very fast reader .. she has just backed Liz Truss

( deal done obs)

I wish I was a freelance photographer/ videographer.. I bet you could have got some great photos in the last hour or so as they all have meetings and conversations


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Kemi smashed it

brilliant performance

[arista]

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[arista]

[Conservative leadership race: Braverman backs
Truss as she exits contest]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62172049

[bots]

what will be interesting is how many of her supporters will switch to Truss. Steve Baker will, but apart from him, who knows

[arista]

Big test tonight Live
Ch4HD 7:30PM - 9PM Conservative Leaders
first debate.

[joeysteele]

There does seem to be a movement now to push for Truss.

Not the wisest move I'd say.
Anytime she comes out her door, she rarely seems to know which way she's supposed to go, even to getting into a car.

I can't see her as Premier signifying any shape or form of necessary change.

She will have to reward Rees-Mogg and the deluded Nadine Dorries for their over the top suppport.
Surely at their now 3rd attempt in 6 years this present Con party is going to elect another disaster as their PM in office.

Tonight's debate may help but somehow I doubt it.

For me, the real change candidate for as near a fresh start hard learned, is likely to be out on Monday.
Namely Tom Tugendhat.

I'm now of the view Labour needn't concern itself with which one wins now
Mordaunt just brings Theresa May back to mind.

Truss would be a mess too.

Sunak with his experience of Chancellor was on paper the most able.
I can't see even the Cons risking Kemi.

Starmer should get down to forming a good set of firm policies.
If he'd listen, get PR iny his future plans too.
Really get the Lib Dems and all other Parties at Westminster easily and fully on board.
He could then claim to be the one who is going to ensure, complete change for real votes to make EVERY vote cast really count in ALL elections.

No fears at all of any of these Con leadership contenders ever even looking at PR either.
So a unique position to take for Labour on this if they really want to win at the next election.

[bots]

I think we need to look at the big picture. The economy is such that whoever becomes the leader/pm is going to be out on their ass in 2 years time and if that happens it will be time for another new leader ready to battle in 6 years time. I think thats inevitable now

[arista]

No Joey

"get PR iny his future plans too."

No one wants that except pathetic LibDems

[Zizu]

I hate the idea of them all scurrying around in the shadows , making deals and offers .

Why can’t they all just do the right thing and simply vote for the person who will be the best for the country


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[bots]

i don't think it's ever been as obvious before in previous leadership elections, that the mp's are just not trustworthy at all. I think it is a sad sign of the times

[Crimson Dynamo]

truss is a mess

im sure this will show tonight

[smudgie]

I started off not wanting Rishi, Hunt, Sajid or Truss.
Not at all sure who I would like, but after all the carrying on and learning more about newcomers I am now thinking Rishi looks more promising. Penny, Tom or Rishi for me.

[joeysteele]

No Joey

"get PR iny his future plans too."

No one wants that except pathetic LibDems


I strongly disagree.
Up to three quarters of Labour members now want PR.
Labour voters too.

There's around a quarter of eligible voters who don't vote, partly because they feel their votes are meaningless.

It's far from only the Lib Dems arista.
In fact EVERY Party elected to Westminster including the UNDemocratic Unionists in N.Ireland.
Would welcome PR.

Only the Con Party and Con voters are against it.

PR is used in the N Irish, Welsh and Scottish assemblies.
PR is used for London Mayor and all other Mayoral elections .
Plus for Police and Crime commissioner elections too.

It's only in general and council elections it isn't.

PR would remove in my view, extremes of government and extreme Prime Ministers too.
More concensus politics would likely be more evident.
Since NO Party could likely ever govern again with strong absolute power with only 40% + of votes given to it.

This dinosaur like system we have now which was fine when the leading Parties like Cons and Labour got we'll over 80% of the votes cast between them.

Not now.
This present government and Prime Minister have highlighted how wrong the political system and set up is.

The Cons will never want PR because they are happy to execute absolute power from a minority of votes.
If Starmer can be persuaded by those Labour MPs who also want PR, to make it policy.
He, I believe would lead Labour to a really strong victory in the next election.
By offering real and necessary change to have voters to feel their votes really now do matter and count.

The Cons dread PR and for obvious reasons too but only reasons of their own extreme self interest.

[Beso]

If rishi wins it will be like living in a care home in the 80s and finding out jimmy saville isnt visiting today, only to hear the sound of a didgerydoo echoing up the hallways as you drift of to sleep.

[arista]

Conservative HOME online
is Live on SkyNewsHD and GBnewsHD
and TalkTV HD

NOT on bbc.

Is talking to the 5.

Even Rishi spoke.


Not like Ch4HDnews tonight
they are all at their own base.
Taking Conservative Home collected Questions
for their members

[Crimson Dynamo]

7fIU2aMImMQ

[arista]

[This dinosaur like system we have now
which was fine when the leading Parties like Cons and Labour
got we'll over 80% of the votes cast between them.]


Yes Joey
we are stuck with it.
No one can bring in PR

[arista]

9Auq9mYxFEE

[arista]

Live Conservative Home

Rishi keeps mentioning Thatcher did what he will do

[bots]

just watching that live question and answer for a little while, it becomes immediately obvious that Kemi is completely out of her depth

[arista]

just watching that live question and answer for a little while, it becomes immediately obvious that Kemi is completely out of her depth


Yes Kemi and Tom
both could go Monday

[Oliver_W]

That Kemi comes off well - pro welfare, anti corruption, likeable.

[arista]

Liz can hit the ground running?



In her High Heels
I think not.

[arista]

Pennys 4 Cats

Would get rid of Larry.

[arista]

It has now Concluded



Good on SkyNewsHD mentioning the first debate on Ch4

[bots]

i thought liz was ok, sunak was over confident, penny was full of erms like she was making it up on the hoof ... tom seemed ok but he isn't a winner and kemi just shouldnt be there

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Live Debate now on Tuesday 19th

They wanted the date changed.

[bots]

by tuesday we should know the final 3 so it makes sense to wait a few days

[arista]

Live Conservative Debates

Today Friday Live 7:30PM Ch4HD
Sunday Live 7PM ITV1HD
Tuesday Live 8PM SkyNewsHD (free online)

[hijaxers]

Richi cannot even spell the word campaign properly ~ how embarrasing.

[arista]

Ch5HDnews
Showed the Ch4HD Set
Of course the same company does the Debate and Ch5HDnews,
ITN.

They spoke of the ITV1HD Sunday Debate

But skipped the SkyNewsHD Tuesday debate

[Zizu]

Live Conservative Debates

Today Friday Live 7:30PM Ch4HD
Sunday Live 7PM ITV1HD
Tuesday Live SkyNewsHD (free online)


Thank you

Very useful


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[arista]

Pre-Covid in 2019


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[arista]

The SkyNewsHD debate on Tuesday the 19th
is at 8PM

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Rishi Sunak - 101
Liz Truss - 91
Penny Mordaunt - 83
Kemi Badenoch - 49
Tom Tugendhat - 32

Suella's 27 backers increase Liz Amounts



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[arista]

Ch4HD Live Debate 7:30PM
has an audience of floating voters

[joeysteele]

I don't get the fuss for Truss.

No matter my political view, she'd be awful barely better than Johnson.
Plus the awful Rees-Mogg and deluded Dorries will be rewarded for their support for Truss.

She'd be awful in near all ways.
She already IS, in my view.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ch4HD Live Debate 7:30PM
has an audience of floating voters

ON NOW

[arista]

We are Live CH4HD

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Liz Truss talks first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That idiot truss has said deliver already

[Crimson Dynamo]

twice

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Tom is next

Talking of Trust

[Crimson Dynamo]

4 times

she must think we are all stupid

hag

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Rishi now talking.

He says you can trust him?

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Kemi talking

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Penny talking of Communities

[Zizu]

Rishi Sunak - 101
Liz Truss - 91
Penny Mordaunt - 83
Kemi Badenoch - 49
Tom Tugendhat - 32

Suella's 27 backers increase Liz Amounts



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See that just stinks .. that suggests that they haven’t gone for the best person


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[Zizu]

I don't get the fuss for Truss.

No matter my political view, she'd be awful barely better than Johnson.
Plus the awful Rees-Mogg and deluded Dorries will be rewarded for their support for Truss.

She'd be awful in near all ways.
She already IS, in my view.


Yes .. I don’t care for her at all


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[arista]

Tom the only one saying A Clean Start

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rishi throwing Boris under the bus

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Yes .. I don’t care for her at all



Nothing wrong with saying that

[Zizu]

Rishi throwing Boris under the bus


I just see him as a very weak person


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[Zizu]

Tom the only one saying A Clean Start


Again this guy just leaves me cold ... zero personality


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[joeysteele]

Tom the only one to answer honestly on Johnson.

[arista]

Rishi throwing Boris under the bus


Yes he wants to be the new leader.




Great they only did a 90second break

[arista]

Again this guy just leaves me cold ... zero personality


Early days
give him a chance.

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Liz wants our Energy Bills coming down

[Crimson Dynamo]

truss still talking absolute bollox

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Tom keeps looking at the audience.

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Presenter asked the Audience
do any of them trust MP's

Not One of them put their hands up.



Shocker

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tom the only one to answer honestly on Johnson.

bang on right Joey

[Crimson Dynamo]

Presenter asked the Audience
do any of them trust MP's

Not One of them put their hands up.



Shocker

you could not make that moment up :joker:

[Zizu]

Early days
give him a chance.


It’s just an Impression after a few interviews and clips I’ve seen ..

Even the description he’s given them for his introduction sounds suspect

They introduced him as serving in the special forces ... so we’re thinking an all -action war hero yet his online bio says

Territorial army , then Adjutant General's Corps responsible for many of the army’s general administrative services and then he served in the Intelligence Corps which is responsible for gathering, analysing and disseminating military intelligence and also for counter-intelligence and security.


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Longer ad now

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Kemi does not Like Penny

[Zizu]

truss still talking absolute bollox


I don’t see the general public voting for Truss or Rishi ...


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Headteacher talking

[Crimson Dynamo]

come on Kemi

[arista]

Liz would spread the Debt Longer

She will bring our Bills down.

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Sunak Fighting Truss


Now its Kemi.

[arista]

Rishi is getting angry alot.

[joeysteele]

Truss looks like she is, and in fact is, near having a nightmare here.

[arista]

Truss looks like she is, and in fact is, near having a nightmare here.


She wants to be Bold

[Zizu]

I think Penny is a level or two better than the others


She’s very assured and confident

I like her


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[Crimson Dynamo]

rishi cant talk to working people

he thinks they are scum like Gordon Brown did

[arista]

I think Penny is a level or two better than the others


She’s very assured and confident

I like her



Good to hear

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Kemi has a bad cough

[bots]

i was out so i missed it. Can we consider any of them PM material? I didnt think so listening to their Q and A in the morning

[Crimson Dynamo]

Kemi has a bad cough

could be BA 2.5?

[Zizu]

Tugendhat is fake .

He’s just acting out what he’s been rehearsing.. they obviously told him that eye contact is important but the way he’s looking at random people in the crowd but it looks forced / fake and he looks very uncomfortable doing it .


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[arista]

45 seconds each ending.

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Pretty Good First Debate,

[Crimson Dynamo]

Truss was awful

[joeysteele]

Truss was awful

She was chronic, I agree.

[Zizu]

Truss was awful


Surely the MPs will see she’s simply unsuitable for the PM role .


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11017523/And-theyre-Tory-leadership-rivals-face-against-time.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

go on Tom lad

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tom Tugendhat: Is Boris Johnson honest? No
Rishi Sunak accuses Liz Truss of 'fairy tales'
Tory MPs accuse Channel 4 of bias
Exclusive: I am up to the job, insists Penny Mordaunt
Our must-read interview with Tugendhat

DT

[Zizu]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11017523/And-theyre-Tory-leadership-rivals-face-against-time.html


Really .. I really didn’t like TT at all

He presented like a programmed robot at times and pulled some weird faces as it looked as though he wasn’t comfortable.

A natural ... he is not Imho


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[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Candidates can barely get a word in with this biased woke presenter in this debate. Why give left-wing <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Channel4?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Channel4</a> the first leadership debate? 🤷*♂️ <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ToryLeadershipContest?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ToryLeadershipContest</a></p>&mdash; Scott Benton MP 🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 🍊 (@ScottBentonMP) <a href="https://twitter.com/ScottBentonMP/status/1548023936486477826?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 15, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Cherie]

Tom blew them away...:dance:

[Zizu]

Tom blew them away...:dance:


You like him then ?

I liked him before I saw him in the flesh ( on telly ) tonight


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[bots]

tom will be gone on monday, so there is very little point highlighting him as a winner

[Crimson Dynamo]

tom will be gone on monday, so there is very little point highlighting him as a winner

maybe not

if people cant see Truss as the weakest link there is no hope

[joeysteele]

Tom was really good in my view.

That snap poll hasn't surprised me.
Yes too, Truss was by far the worst.

[bots]

maybe not

if people cant see Truss as the weakest link there is no hope

i think you are missing the subtleties of what the mp's are about. Each and every mp asks the question, which one of these candidates can best further MY career .... nothing to do with it being best person to lead the country :laugh: So then its about mutual benefit and which candidate is the best fit

[Cherie]

You like him then ?

I liked him before I saw him in the flesh ( on telly ) tonight


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The only one who straight up said Bojo was dishonest

And I always enjoy someone making faces :laugh:

[Cherie]

i think you are missing the subtleties of what the mp's are about. Each and every mp asks the question, which one of these candidates can best further MY career .... nothing to do with it being best person to lead the country :laugh: So then its about mutual benefit and which candidate is the best fit

How the hell are Kemi and Truss ahead of him...

[bots]

How the hell are Kemi and Truss ahead of him...

i don't really know either of them. Liz i just dont particularly like, i wouldn't trust her at all. Kemi appears nice enough but she is very obviously out of her depth and shouldn't be in the contest.

Tom is not as bad as Kemi, but he wouldn't know where to start putting the things he highlighted right

[Zizu]

The only one who straight up said Bojo was dishonest

And I always enjoy someone making faces :laugh:


He only whispered it .. it almost looked like he didn’t want his response to be on camera - a quick , quiet NO and a shakes of his head .

Not impressed with him at all


I’d like the last two to be Penny and Kemi


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[Zizu]

Didn’t Rishi break the same ‘rule’ as Boris and also get fined as well ??

Why is he even a contender ?


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[arista]

Didn’t Rishi break the same ‘rule’ as Boris and also get fined as well ??

Why is he even a contender ?




No Rishi walked into Cake Attack

Was not worthy of a fine.

[bots]

Rishi got fined the same as Boris Arista

[arista]

Rishi got fined the same as Boris Arista


Yes he walked in to Cake attack

No one cares now

[Zizu]

No Rishi walked into Cake Attack

Was not worthy of a fine.


Maybe Boris wasn’t worthy of a fine ..

Maybe it suited others that he got the fine ??

Mmmmmm.... strokes chin ..


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Tom is Live in the Paddington Studio
GBNewsHD


NOW

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https://twitter.com/ASGunn/status/1548028238110216192?s=20&t=JM8BkKupPP2gwqJAN3UZnQ

[Zizu]

Tom is Live in the Paddington Studio
GBNewsHD


NOW


They should ask him if he thinks Boris was honest ... just to see if he can only muster up a whispered l answer again.


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[Zizu]

Tom is Live in the Paddington Studio
GBNewsHD


NOW


Sounds like three mates having a chat - they’re asking him all the right questions - I bet all these questions were agreed before the interview..

If TomT gets the PM job I’d expect to see the other two in high profile positions


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[arista]

Sunday ITV1HD 7PM Live
is only one hour ends 8PM

Well done Ch4HD giving longer 90mins

ITN makes both of these.

[arista]

Yes TOM
has now concluded
at the Air Conditioned Paddington Studio

[Zizu]

..... and there you have it ...

Q “ who’s gonna be in your cabinet “

A “ I’m looking at them now ! “


Politics in a snapshot !


If he was a bright fella he certainly wouldn’t have thrown that line in .. he could have given a sensible, considered answer

That line will be trending today , I predict


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[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/ASGunn/status/1548028238110216192?s=20&t=JM8BkKupPP2gwqJAN3UZnQ

Who is advising her, this is beyond creepy

[arista]

Who is advising her, this is beyond creepy


A team that helped Johnson.

[joeysteele]

Who is advising her, this is beyond creepy

2 of her main backers are Rees-Mogg and Nadine Dorries :joker:

[Zizu]

Liz Truss is a scary prospect on so many levels ...

TomT is just fake and insincere - his awkward , almost robotic delivery is uncomfortable to watch .. he reminds me of the acting in the local pantomime


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Truss looks like the living dead just uttering meaningless platitudes

"delivery delivery delivery"

oh shut up you eejit

[bots]

she could easily end up being PM :laugh:

I'm pragmatic about this. The tory party will be out at the next election and that will be the end of whichever leader they chose

[Zizu]

Tom Tugendhat: Is Boris Johnson honest? No
Rishi Sunak accuses Liz Truss of 'fairy tales'
Tory MPs accuse Channel 4 of bias
Exclusive: I am up to the job, insists Penny Mordaunt
Our must-read interview with Tugendhat

DT


Just to clarify

TomT whispered .. “ no “


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[Zizu]

SUELLA OUT


only had 27 MP's


Suella Braverman embarrassed herself this morning on TV be claiming that Liz Truss was by far the most IMPRESSIVE in last night’s debate .

Do these people think we are fricken stupid !!!!


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[bots]

Suella Braverman embarrassed herself this morning on TV be claiming that Liz Truss was by far the most IMPRESSIVE in last night’s debate .

Do these people think we are fricken stupid !!!!


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she demonstrates why the public don't trust mp's. She said it to secure a cabinet position if liz wins

[arista]

Suella Braverman embarrassed herself this morning on TV be claiming that Liz Truss was by far the most IMPRESSIVE in last night’s debate .

Do these people think we are fricken stupid !!!!





Yes her 27MP's
now back Truss

[Liam-]

People need to realise that the mp’s voting don’t really care about who’s the best for the job or the country, all they care about is who’s going to supply them with their own personal power

[Cherie]

2 of her main backers are Rees-Mogg and Nadine Dorries :joker:

Enough saud

Just to clarify

TomT whispered .. “ no “



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Chrisna said this morning he talking over him just as he responded, he didnt whisper it

[Cherie]

People need to realise that the mp’s voting don’t really care about who’s the best for the job or the country, all they care about is who’s going to supply them with their own personal power

Well if the public response is anything to go by they wont be in power very long unless Tom gets the job

[arista]

People need to realise that the mp’s voting don’t really care about who’s the best for the job or the country, all they care about is who’s going to supply them with their own personal power


Rubbish
Not all the MP's are like that.


Look at Roger Gale Conservative MP, for example
concerned about his community
first

Liam
you talk rubbish on this

[Zizu]

Enough saud



Chrisna said this morning he talking over him just as he responded, he didnt whisper it


It was barely audible then ... plus he rushed it out then carried on shaking his head .

It was hardly loud and proud response


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[Zizu]

Rubbish
Not all the MP's are like that.


Look at Roger Gale Conservative MP, for example
concerned about his community
first

Liam
you talk rubbish on this


Sadly I think he’s just saying what we all know ..


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[Zizu]

Interesting read

https://www.standard.co.uk/insider/boris-johnson-prime-minister-contenders-rishi-sunak-penny-mordaunt-kemi-badenoch-b1011449.html?amp


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[Oliver_W]

https://twitter.com/ASGunn/status/1548028238110216192?s=20&t=JM8BkKupPP2gwqJAN3UZnQ

Wasn't it she who whinged that critisism toward her was "misogynistic" ? :joker:

Say what you want about the woman herself, but she'd never lower herself to that.

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[Oliver_W]

Supporting self-ID and taking money from climate skeptics aren't the best looks.

[bots]

it's pretty interesting how she is being targeted. Does anyone think she will be worse than any of the other candidates where funding and associations with dodgy people is concerned because I don't