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Martinez
https://x.com/TheKopWatch/status/1703065672266195194?s=20
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newcastle games are awful to watch
I really don’t know why I put myself through this dross time after time
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The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 06:06 PM
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the glazers are just the money men. It's the board that set the strategy for the club. Does anyone think the united board have performed any better than the everton board that got the boot?
Compare and contrast the difference between Postecoglou on Richarlison and Ten Hag on Sancho
"We've got to maintain a balance in life and even for him, he needs to understand his football is still good. He's a fantastic footballer," Postecoglou told BBC Sport.
"He's got so much to give and that can help ease the burden he's feeling in other parts of his life. I'm really pleased for him."
Ten Hag - i don't know if you will play for the team again
The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 06:37 PM
That is a good point about his man management style. When you're building, I think you need to have a bit more tolerance to keep everyone on side. It's when you're at the top, it's easier to be zero tolerance.
The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 06:40 PM
Neville getting roasted.
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Neville lost all credibility a long time ago
GiRTh
16-09-2023, 07:06 PM
That is a good point about his man management style. When you're building, I think you need to have a bit more tolerance to keep everyone on side. It's when you're at the top, it's easier to be zero tolerance.I'd agree with this but Arteta when he took charge of Arsenal was quite the opposite. To the point where it alienated alot of fans, me included. The times I went on about Ghendouzi being exiled on here :laugh: Also, remember Saliba almost had a similar fate after he made a comment on social media about not playing
The Arsenal squad as it stands is now Artetas. Mohamed Elneny is the only player who has survived the Arteta cull but I dont see him playing many games TBH. Every other player from before Arteta has been sold or is to be sold. Even the likes of Kieran Tierney who Im a fan of. Man Utd needs something similar and with Ten Haag getting rid of Ronaldo we thought it was going to happen. Now we can see that Ten Haags methods are not what we thought and unlike Arteta he still has to prove that he can coach a style of play that get Man U up the table or is exciting for the fans. To date I dont see that hes such a great a coach or manager
EDIT: Before some clever clogs comes along to say - What about Saka, Martinelli, Smith-Rowe. They were all on youth teeam contracts when Arteta took over so dont count
Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 07:24 PM
It's Liverpool. We could be beating a trash team 7-0 at home (can't think of any team in particular :smug:), and bots would claim it was luck.
In all seriousness who remembers Micah Richards a few seasons ago saying that "Leicester just defended for most of the game" after beating Man City 5-2 at the Etihad? It had to be one of the most bitter meltdowns that I've seen him give.:joker:
Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 07:39 PM
Another bald fraud in the premier league. Things you love to see.
Who's the other bald fraud?
Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 07:41 PM
come on Hannibal, you win it now :laugh:
A Blues legend.:dance:
The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 07:44 PM
Not sure if this is true
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The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 07:44 PM
Who's the other bald fraud?
Fraudiola :smug:
Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 07:58 PM
Agree. The problem at Man U is the players. Like Spurs, and Arsenal to a lesser extent, they need someone to come in with a complete change of culture., We thought Ten Haag was that guy but the same old poor attitude that got the previous managers sacked has resurfaced.
I honestly believe that nobody can get these particular group of players at Man Utd to behave like respectful adults.
Fraudiola :smug:
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Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 08:22 PM
Fraudiola :smug:
:laugh:
Tbf I think Guardiola is a very good Manager.
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Tbf I think Guardiola is a very good Manager.
He’s a fabulous manager but I find City so predictable
I’ve just watched Barcelona who are still a team in progress just play brilliant, creative football .. Felix , Cancelo and Gündoğan all allowed to play with freedom
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Mystic Mock
16-09-2023, 09:28 PM
He’s a fabulous manager but I find City so predictable
I’ve just watched Barcelona who are still a team in progress just play brilliant, creative football .. Felix , Cancelo and Gündoğan all allowed to play with freedom
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Tbf Spanish teams always pride themselves on playing entertaining Football, their fans demand it.
I do agree with you though that Man City are boring to watch.
The Slim Reaper
16-09-2023, 10:14 PM
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Genius :joker:
Villa to good in injury time for me to get 3 correct score predictions this week.
Not sure if this is true
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i've seen him make a lot of saves. He doesn't save shots in the traditional way though, he more gets his body in the way than cleanly taking the ball, which doesn't give a warm fuzzy feeling :laugh:
Also, one needs to remember that teams are just blasting through the united midfield at the moment, which makes the defence and goalkeeper look much worse than they really are
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 02:55 AM
Onana on the third goal was horrendous imo.
Dalot looked in no Maguire's land for the first goal though.
And in the Blues game Ruddy and Buchanan want to be careful, Ruddy for the first goal had the pace of a snail, and Buchanan forgot that you can have the opposition player's shirt after the final whistle, not during the match.:joker:
Being fair to Blues though, we have had a very good start to the season, and Ruddy and Buchanan are overall good players (especially for the Championship) I just don't want us creeping back into bad habits as the sending off robbed us of a really good point yesterday.
And with Man Utd, tbf Brighton will give anyone a game (including Man City) so maybe Man Utd will do better in the next game.
Same old bollocks, Chelsea have chances, can't put them away. I really thought Jackson was gonna be our saviour for the goals this time round after a great pre-season, but nope.
That was seriously close.
Pathetic waste of so many ****ing attacks
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 02:31 PM
Im not watching as I sold Sterling and have Jackson on bench
so far so good
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Im not watching as I sold Sterling and have Jackson on bench
so far so good
:worry:
Sterling had a free kick hit the underside of the bar and was half across the line. Jackson is the worst forward in the PL, you have no worries there.
Well, Jackson did hit the post in the 1st half, but my god has been wasted chances and been crap since then. Chelsea wasting all their attacks
Sanchez has been Chelsea's best player
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 03:14 PM
Beating Bournemouth is only for the big teams :smug:
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GiRTh
17-09-2023, 03:22 PM
Raya in for Ramsdale. Not sure about changing the keeper for an away game
Thank God Havertz isnt starting
Beating Bournemouth is only for the big teams :smug:
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The chances we had to score, hit the post twice, one cleared off the line, we are seriously lacking major attacking threats in this team. Chelsea and Utd proving throwing money at the problem no longer works
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 03:29 PM
The chances we had to score, hit the post twice, one cleared off the line, we are seriously lacking major attacking threats in this team. Chelsea and Utd proving throwing money at the problem no longer works
There was an obvious solution if you were lacking goals; sign one of the best strikers in the world, rather than £175m on 2 midfielders. Could have kept mount with a new contract, then sold him next summer.
There was an obvious solution if you were lacking goals; sign one of the best strikers in the world, rather than £175m on 2 midfielders. Could have kept mount with a new contract, then sold him next summer.
I couldn't agree more, i doubt he would have joined, but £200m for Harry Kane maybe. I think getting rid of Mount this year was the right move though. He's just gonna be another overrated young English player who will be an average player throughout his career imo.
Nicky91
17-09-2023, 03:38 PM
Chelsea won a point, at least something
more than Man United this weekend ;)
how are everton still level :laugh:
That Saliba faking injury was insane :laugh:
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 04:47 PM
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GiRTh
17-09-2023, 05:02 PM
Finally.
GiRTh
17-09-2023, 05:03 PM
Seventy five percent possession. Wow!!!!!
Everton and Newcastle are dreadful to watch
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GiRTh
17-09-2023, 05:12 PM
Effing hell. Havertz is coming on.
Arteta is like Southgate, Havertz is Maguire. Why is he trying so hard to shoehorn this player in to the team.
GiRTh
17-09-2023, 05:13 PM
If we end up drawing this game Artetas gonna have questions to answer
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 06:09 PM
My FPL transfer just got a lot easier this week
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it was last time out that he scooped the ball over the bar from 2 yards out :laugh:
Crimson Dynamo
17-09-2023, 06:15 PM
it was last time out that he scooped the ball over the bar from 2 yards out :laugh:
oh God I forgot about that :joker:
If we end up drawing this game Artetas gonna have questions to answer
It’s all good .. it’s a shame that you aren’t really firing on all cylinders just as you play Spurs, Chelsea , Newcastle and ManC though .. an important period coming up
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Effing hell. Havertz is coming on.
Arteta is like Southgate, Havertz is Maguire. Why is he trying so hard to shoehorn this player in to the team.
Just fresh legs … you’ve taken another physical battering today
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And that's all Havertz is at this point, awful in the PL last season, and has already lost his starting 11 place with Arsenal 4 games in.
He might have been good in Germany Zizu, but he can't cut it in the PL.
And that's all Havertz is at this point, awful in the PL last season, and has already lost his starting 11 place with Arsenal 4 games in.
He might have been good in Germany Zizu, but he can't cut it in the PL.
I still think he will turn things around and be a great player for Arsenal .. Arteta’s record for improving players is amazing ..
Who thought that Xhaka were would turn just career around and play so well ( last season)
Some players just need to find the right team ..
Last night Felix was fantastic in his first game for Barca .. he looked a class apart
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GiRTh
17-09-2023, 07:20 PM
I still think he will turn things around and be a great player for Arsenal .. Arteta’s record for improving players is amazing ..
Who thought that Xhaka were would turn just career around and play so well ( last season)
Some players just need to find the right team ..
Last night Felix was fantastic in his first game for Barca .. he looked a class apart
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProNo doubt he will become a great player for Arsenal but its the length of time its taking for him to adjust to the team. As I have said before, for the money we spent on Havertz we could have got both Ward-Prowse and Maddison.
I hope, unlike Southgate, Arteta isnt perpared to die on this hill. So when I saw Havertz coming on say instead of a steadier player like Jorginho or a defender I think Arteta is trying too hard to get Havertz minutes.
GiRTh
17-09-2023, 07:27 PM
Havertz is very much a conundrum and his presence may unbalance the team
Take Emile Smith-Rowe. He scored 10 league goals in the 21-22 season. Do you know who didnt score 10 league goals in the 21-22 season. If you guessed Havertz you guessed correct. He scored 8.
Now Smith-Rowe is probably 4th or 5th choice, still on a youth contract, while Havertz in the first choice and, I belevie, Arsenals highest paid player. If I were Smith-Rowe I would not be too happy about that.
The Slim Reaper
17-09-2023, 09:02 PM
This is wild. We only started trying in April. Obiously before today, so Arsenal go a point ahead of us, but jeez.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6OJS5cW0AA5mjj?format=png&name=small
that table reflects how i felt things were going for teams, particularly AV and Brighton
GiRTh
17-09-2023, 09:42 PM
This is wild. We only started trying in April. Obiously before today, so Arsenal go a point ahead of us, but jeez.
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Surprised Villa have done so well
last season they had the best record in the premier league after emery arrived i believe
Mystic Mock
17-09-2023, 11:10 PM
Surprised Villa have done so well
I'm surprised and upset.:bawling::joker:
joeysteele
18-09-2023, 09:01 AM
I'm surprised and upset.:bawling::joker:
:joker: ditto from me to that too Mock.
Crimson Dynamo
18-09-2023, 10:03 AM
this is just incredible
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there was no urgency about the Man U players, when they lost the ball, they just strolled about. They didn't press with any intensity to get the ball back. Or, to put it simply, they were lazy
there was no urgency about the Man U players, when they lost the ball, they just strolled about. They didn't press with any intensity to get the ball back. Or, to put it simply, they were lazy
I have no idea why he made Fernandes the captain !!!
Varane or Martinez would be my choices
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Havertz is very much a conundrum and his presence may unbalance the team
Take Emile Smith-Rowe. He scored 10 league goals in the 21-22 season. Do you know who didnt score 10 league goals in the 21-22 season. If you guessed Havertz you guessed correct. He scored 8.
Now Smith-Rowe is probably 4th or 5th choice, still on a youth contract, while Havertz in the first choice and, I belevie, Arsenals highest paid player. If I were Smith-Rowe I would not be too happy about that.
I had such high hopes for Smith Rowe ( still do actually) … I’m sure he played really well for England under 21’s in that competition not too long ago
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Surprised Villa have done so well
They lost 5:1 to Newcastle and 3:0 to Liverpool so they’re not doing that great ..
They’ve only beaten Burnley , Everton and Palace
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this is just incredible
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And they were without March and Estupinan
BBC story headline
How can Pochettino get Chelsea firing again?
I would have thought that was simple, just lose a few more games :laugh:
If we're out of contention for Europe by Christmas he'll be gone i reckon. Also, all the hype surrounding Mudryk, he is one of football's biggest flops ever.
Most premier league managers don't manage to stay more than 18 months - 2 years in post which means that Ten Hag has probably got 6 months left before getting the boot. The players know this too
If we're out of contention for Europe by Christmas he'll be gone i reckon. Also, all the hype surrounding Mudryk, he is one of football's biggest flops ever.
It’s crazy how desperate Arsenal were to sign Mudryk before Chelsea nabbed him !
I think both teams must have seen this clip
of him :)
https://youtube.com/shorts/21siGyLMTFk?si=y_oxB5yHS-rO6HhL
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And they were without March and Estupinan
Why was estupinan dropped?
Why was estupinan dropped?
I think he picked up a slight knock on international duty.
I think he picked up a slight knock on international duty.
Ah..I wont transfer him then:laugh:
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 10:03 PM
:joker: ditto from me to that too Mock.
We're going to have to put them in their place whenever we get promoted to the Premier League Joey.:joker:
Mystic Mock
18-09-2023, 10:07 PM
there was no urgency about the Man U players, when they lost the ball, they just strolled about. They didn't press with any intensity to get the ball back. Or, to put it simply, they were lazy
In that particular clip tbf I would say that nobody was going to compete with what Brighton were doing in that sequence.
So who’s getting relegated along with Luton and Everton ?
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Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 02:51 AM
So who’s getting relegated along with Luton and Everton ?
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Well if they're having to pull off Magic Cramp tricks after 25 minutes because they can't play good Football, my guess would be Sheffield Utd.
Nicky91
19-09-2023, 01:39 PM
So who’s getting relegated along with Luton and Everton ?
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the season just begun though
a lot can still change
i also expect Man United to move upwards the table soon the moment they sacked ETH
we'd expect Newcastle to also go into the top half of the table tbh
the season just begun though
a lot can still change
i also expect Man United to move upwards the table soon the moment they sacked ETH
we'd expect Newcastle to also go into the top half of the table tbh
United ( and Chelsea ) could both soon implode !!
I saw something yesterday suggesting Ten Hag and Poch were both 10:1 to get the sack
Only a couple of managers had worse odds
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Can’t see the euro refs allowing Newcastle’s rough house tactics …
I’m thinking AC Milan could give them a beating today ( 5.45pm ! )
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I think Poch will be around for a while yet, but i would be surprised if Ten Hag is still in position by Christmas. 2 games a week shows up problems very quickly. Chelsea are back to 1 game a week
Chelsea aren't having the odd bad game, we are consistently poor every week. It's gone from a meme to an actual disaster within the club. All we have is hope now, hope that something will click. Otherwise we're doomed.
Can’t see the euro refs allowing Newcastle’s rough house tactics …
I’m thinking AC Milan could give them a beating today ( 5.45pm ! )
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Jesus I may have to watch Newcastle after all .. after vowing never to watch them as I find their cheating , thuggish tactics too unbearable .
The ref tonight booked 13 ( THIRTEEN) players in his last match !
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They kicked off 15 mins ago
They kicked off 15 mins ago
How can a ref go from booking 13 players to booking just 2
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Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 10:21 PM
Chelsea aren't having the odd bad game, we are consistently poor every week. It's gone from a meme to an actual disaster within the club. All we have is hope now, hope that something will click. Otherwise we're doomed.
I think if Boehly gives Poch time that you'll end up clicking.
Mystic Mock
19-09-2023, 10:22 PM
Can’t see the euro refs allowing Newcastle’s rough house tactics …
I’m thinking AC Milan could give them a beating today ( 5.45pm ! )
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Congratulations on Barcelona's victory btw.
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2023, 12:38 PM
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Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2023, 12:53 PM
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The Slim Reaper
21-09-2023, 12:57 PM
Tottenham dude reminds me a lot of Klopp.
i like the guy, such a refreshing change
:joker:
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oh dear, City are on fire
Ederson was close to being sent off too
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 04:42 PM
Lovely goal from Everton there
Lovely goal from Everton there
I'm a glutton for punishment.
Who scored it?
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 04:56 PM
I'm a glutton for punishment.
Who scored it?
Docoure
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 04:56 PM
Kane scored 3 goals and got 2 assists today
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 05:28 PM
Who the hell is that young girl with Kelly and Jimmy?
bin this shoehorn nonsense Sky ffs
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 06:02 PM
3-1 to the Toffees
who predicted that result then :laugh:
jonny evans scores a goal :joker:
disallowed .... booo
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 07:29 PM
Come on yoooooo Clarets
Who the hell is that young girl with Kelly and Jimmy?
bin this shoehorn nonsense Sky ffs
Don’t get me started !!!!! !!!!
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Man U have been crap again. Rashford has been pants
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2023, 07:45 PM
Broooooooooooooooooono
Mystic Mock
24-09-2023, 12:07 AM
Man U have been crap again. Rashford has been pants
He is too busy sulking.
At least Onana saved shots in this game.
Crazy that City are on this winning run without Stones , KDB , Grealish, Bernado ,Mahrez and Gundegen
Last season they won the league by FIVE points because they beat Arsenal home and away … but this time when they play Arsenal in a week or so - they will be without most of them plus no Rodri
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So since the year 2000 there have been more 5:2 results than nil:nil draws in the Arsenal v Spurs games !
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Soooo there’s a theory that Arteta’s decision to replace Ramsdale may effect the Arsenal team spirit !?!
Thoughts ?
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Also on the Arsenal goalkeeper point ..
Presumably he will keep Ramsdale on the bench today after two clean sheets by his rival soooooooo what happens if Arsenal go two or three down by halftime??
It’s entirely possible in this game with both teams flying
Would Arteta bring on Ramsdale for the second half ?!?
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Nicky91
24-09-2023, 08:03 AM
meanwhile Arsenal renewed the contract of their captain Odegaard until 2025
Also on the Arsenal goalkeeper point ..
Presumably he will keep Ramsdale on the bench today after two clean sheets by his rival soooooooo what happens if Arsenal go two or three down by halftime??
It’s entirely possible in this game with both teams flying
Would Arteta bring on Ramsdale for the second half ?!?
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Ramsdale will be gone in January or the summer, the other keeper was always arteta's first choice but wasn't available when they signed ramsdale
Manchester United and England striker Marcus Rashford escaped unhurt after being involved in a car crash on Saturday night.
The incident happened when Rashford had left United's Carrington training ground in his white Rolls Royce.
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man of the people :love:
Crimson Dynamo
24-09-2023, 10:18 AM
in his white Rolls Royce.
:umm2:
in his white Rolls Royce.
:umm2:
Young kid writes off a £700,000 car !!!??
Crazy times
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Three of the seasons best 4 midfielders play now !!
Odegard, Maddison and Bissouma !
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i think this game is going to be a cracker
i think this game is going to be a cracker
Jesus should have finished Spurs off …
It’s anyone’s game now
Who’s got the best impact subs ?
Smith - Rowe and Nelson and Havartz or Richarlison …
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It's all over for Chelsea as a football club
People compare Chelsea to Utd, but at least Utd can squeeze wins here and there. Yeah Chelsea beat Luton, but we could put together a team on here that would give Luton a game. Chelsea are ****ed
Spurs are playing so well
Denver
24-09-2023, 02:52 PM
Guess we are gonna have to be the ones to step up to City again
City wont be caught, but 2nd looks to be Liverpool's. Chelsea might just scrape through the relegation battle. Luckily there are a few teams just as sh!t as Chelsea this season in the PL.
The Slim Reaper
24-09-2023, 03:05 PM
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He's one of the luckiest strikers out there. He's had a couple good games this season, but Antonio really is piss poor. Im surprised Chelsea haven't put in a £150m bid for him tbh, he'd fit right in at Stamford Bridge.
The Slim Reaper
24-09-2023, 03:10 PM
He's one of the luckiest strikers out there. He's had a couple good games this season, but Antonio really is piss poor. Im surprised Chelsea haven't put in a £150m bid for him tbh, he'd fit right in at Stamford Bridge.
Just waiting for us to bid on him in January, and then you'll make your move :laugh:
Spurs and Arsenal wont be far away from it this year. Man U will be hoping that the premier league get 5 spots in the CL next season
Just waiting for us to bid on him in January, and then you'll make your move :laugh:
Sounds about right. :bawling:
The Madrid derby is on ITV4 tonight fwiw.
The Slim Reaper
24-09-2023, 03:26 PM
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chelsea have just bought random players without any thought of how the players would actually play together. It's pretty basic stuff
Taken way too many risks with players who have had ok games here and there for other teams. You can't throw money at the problem anymore, it doesn't work.
Nicky91
24-09-2023, 03:44 PM
of course Spurs play well now
under the Daddy of Down Under, King Ange :love:
only great things what come from down under, facts
GiRTh
24-09-2023, 04:44 PM
Im a little disappointed. Great game but to twice give up the lead is disappointing Spurs looked good, Ange is a good manager but history tells us he wont be given time. Which is a shame
I’ve slept through this game :)
Just woke up to see Newcastle 3:0up
Booo !!
Why are the Sheffield fans booing Schär ??
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Man Utd winger Jadon Sancho will train away from the first team until issues with manager Erik ten Hag are resolved.
Ten Hag left Sancho out of his squad for the loss at Arsenal earlier this month, saying the winger's training performances had been below standard.
Sancho, 23, rejected the Dutchman's reasoning and claimed he had been "a scapegoat for a long time".
United said in a statement Sancho would be on a "personal training programme away from the first team".
The statement added that the decision was made "pending resolution of a squad discipline issue."
The news comes in a week where another United forward, Antony, also stepped away from first-team duties amid domestic abuse allegations made by his former partner.
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There is still a toxic environment at united, they are just papering over the cracksJust the first paragraph of this post is totally insane and disgraceful.
This is why I fell out love with football and actually detest it now.
And I grew up playing it and was a football statto.
GiRTh
24-09-2023, 04:51 PM
Chelsea :laugh: but I back them to finish higher than Man Utd. They're dreadful. Jose, Ragnick, Ronaldo and this week Ole have all said the atmosphere is awful, the players arent as good as they think they are, and some of the players have an agenda. Four people are more or less saying the same thing about United.
UNtil they have a huge clear out they wont be serious contenders. However, they have the players that will produce a great bit of skill like Bruno did yesterday and win the game. That league cup they won just papered over the cracks. It was like putting a tiny plaster on a broken arm
The Madrid derby is on ITV4 tonight fwiw.
Fabulous
Then I’m watching my hero Busquets for Inter Miami just after midnight
:)
Messi rested apparently as he’s carrying an injury
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Cherie
24-09-2023, 04:59 PM
People compare Chelsea to Utd, but at least Utd can squeeze wins here and there. Yeah Chelsea beat Luton, but we could put together a team on here that would give Luton a game. Chelsea are ****ed
sending off was harsh and they were playing well changed the game completely
chelsea have just bought random players without any thought of how the players would actually play together. It's pretty basic stuff
I read they’d given Brighton nearly £250,000 in the last 12 months ..
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Chelsea :laugh: but I back them to finish higher than Man Utd. They're dreadful. Jose, Ragnick, Ronaldo and this week Ole have all said the atmosphere is awful, the players arent as good as they think they are, and some of the players have an agenda. Four people are more or less saying the same thing about United.
UNtil they have a huge clear out they wont be serious contenders. However, they have the players that will produce a great bit of skill like Bruno did yesterday and win the game. That league cup they won just papered over the cracks. It was like putting a tiny plaster on a broken arm
Apparently United have been in a mess for years.
OGS said recently that when he took charge two players refused to take the captaincy !
The third one agreed ( Maguire ?)
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Luckily teams like Luton and Sheffield Utd are in the PL this season, meaning Chelsea will probably avoid the drop as both are certs to go down.
Thank the Lord Rugby League is a huge sport in Hull. I'm so lucky to have it in my life as a spectator. Even though they're trying to bring wokeness into it. They're so small that they couldn't reach the wokeness of national sports. And the players are such warriors that they could never sell it as hard as they try.
Once the rugby league bug gets you, there's no going back. Ask cockney football legend, Stuart Pearce on that. He discovered rugby league in his later life and caught the bug so much he used to do 150 mile round trips every Friday night just to be there to watch a game.
I have two top teams on my doorstep. I know how lucky I am.
Luckily teams like Luton and Sheffield Utd are in the PL this season, meaning Chelsea will probably avoid the drop as both are certs to go down.
Luton , Sheff and Everton are my picks to go down
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I only continually promote rugby league because I want to share with you the sporting spectacle I see. I do it because I care for your enjoyment of life. You're not gonna get the same buzz out of football.
What’s led to this result ?
Poor keeper , poor defending , poor midfield cover ?
Or all together?
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Even a Scottish member like Parm knows who George Fairburn and Alan Tait are.
Scotland needs a rugby league team in Kelso.
And what a great sight it is to see Everton win away down South.
Whether they go down or not, they'll always be a legendary club and one of the biggest clubs of this country.
GiRTh
24-09-2023, 05:40 PM
Apparently United have been in a mess for years.
OGS said recently that when he took charge two players refused to take the captaincy !
The third one agreed ( Maguire ?)
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI saw the interview. It was just what I expected. I'd love to know who it was. I think one may have been Pogba but I cant think of any other player so arrogant to turn down the Man Utd captaincy.
Jose is on record saying that finishing 2nd with the squad he had was his greatest achievment as a manager. He was telling us way back that there were problems at Man Utd but the media just decided to blame him and the Glazers
Cherie
24-09-2023, 05:43 PM
I only continually promote rugby league because I want to share with you the sporting spectacle I see. I do it because I care for your enjoyment of life. You're not gonna get the same buzz out of football.
It is possible to watch both Alfred
It is possible to watch both AlfredRugby League is very niche to the Norrh of England M62 corridor. It's a little loved sport nationally. But you know me. I promote my loves loudly and proudly on a further reach forum. I do my bit for my people. And I will never stop.
Anyone watching the Madrid Derby? Great first half. Atl 2-1 Real at HT.
The Newcastle game was close!
The Newcastle game was close!
Apparently the first , crucially goal should not have been allowed ..
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Mystic Mock
25-09-2023, 03:25 AM
Guess we are gonna have to be the ones to step up to City again
Somebody has to do it.:laugh:
Mystic Mock
25-09-2023, 03:31 AM
City wont be caught, but 2nd looks to be Liverpool's. Chelsea might just scrape through the relegation battle. Luckily there are a few teams just as sh!t as Chelsea this season in the PL.
Yeah if Chelsea finish below these five teams I will be gobsmacked.
And they are:
Luton
Sheffield Utd
Burnley
Wolves
Everton
In no particular order, they should be the five teams bare minimum that Chelsea should be too good to finish below imo, arguably Bournemouth too.
I have got to say though that I feel really sorry for the Sheffield Utd fans after the Newcastle game, because as someone that has also seen their team get thumped 8-0 at home, it can feel very deflating and that there's zero hope in your team being able to stay up.
Thankfully we had Gary Rowett come in and transform us, hopefully Sheffield Utd can get something similar.
Mystic Mock
25-09-2023, 03:38 AM
I saw the interview. It was just what I expected. I'd love to know who it was. I think one may have been Pogba but I cant think of any other player so arrogant to turn down the Man Utd captaincy.
Jose is on record saying that finishing 2nd with the squad he had was his greatest achievment as a manager. He was telling us way back that there were problems at Man Utd but the media just decided to blame him and the Glazers
Well tbf the Glazers deserve some of the blame for having helped create the culture at the club.
Crimson Dynamo
25-09-2023, 01:41 PM
One for Swan..
Points for the 'big six' in the last 17 Premier League games:
Man City - 46
Liverpool - 41
Man Utd - 34
Arsenal - 32
Spurs - 26
Chelsea - 11
Nicky91
25-09-2023, 01:48 PM
Chelsea are pretty much rowing into the same level as Everton i guess
Crimson Dynamo
25-09-2023, 02:46 PM
Manchester United and England striker Marcus Rashford escaped unhurt after being involved in a car crash on Saturday night.
The incident happened when Rashford had left United's Carrington training ground in his white Rolls Royce.
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man of the people :love:
Just to update this the "Poverty campaigner" Rashford who drives a £700,000
Rolls Royce recently added a third Rolls Royce - a £560,000 Cullinan Blue
Shadow - to his growing stable of supercars.
Other cars in Rashford’s expensive collection include a £280,000 McLaren 765
Long Tail and a £350,000 Lamborghini Urus Performante.
Cherie
25-09-2023, 03:03 PM
Just to update this the "Poverty campaigner" Rashford who drives a £700,000
Rolls Royce recently added a third Rolls Royce - a £560,000 Cullinan Blue
Shadow - to his growing stable of supercars.
Other cars in Rashford’s expensive collection include a £280,000 McLaren 765
Long Tail and a £350,000 Lamborghini Urus Performante.
I don’t see the problem with him enjoying his wealth is he supposed to drive around in a fiat uno…? These cars are investments good luck to him
there is something particularly ostentatious about a white rolls royce. It just negates his man of the people persona
Even a Scottish member like Parm knows who George Fairburn and Alan Tait are.
Scotland needs a rugby league team in Kelso.
I do indeed. George has a younger brother called Dave, who gets called cyclops because he has a wonky eye and broke the ugly tree as he fell from the very top.
Taity, or pigeon as he gets called because of his thrusting chest. A sad day when he signed for widnes on that fateful tuesday night. A night kelso won the league, but lost there best ever player.
I'm not a fan of league. Prefer my union, and the enjoyment alan tait has given me over the years for Scotland and the british lions will never be forgotten.
Spoke to him a few months back last time I washed his wi dows before I left to work somewhere more appealing.
One for Swan..
Points for the 'big six' in the last 17 Premier League games:
Man City - 46
Liverpool - 41
Man Utd - 34
Arsenal - 32
Spurs - 26
Chelsea - 11
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He's speaking for every Chelsea fan
i don't think Poch is to blame
i don't think Poch is to blame
Maybe he’s just not as good as everyone thinks ?
He went to PSG and managed the unthinkable- lost the league in his first season
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Crimson Dynamo
25-09-2023, 08:42 PM
i don't think Poch is to blame
the fact they dont have a striker is criminal
the fact they dont have a striker is criminal
They had Lukaku and Aubameyang dnd let them go .,
Even now they have Jackson who is like a young Drogba .. The fans didn’t rate Drogba for a while
They also have Armando Broja
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Crimson Dynamo
25-09-2023, 09:48 PM
who is like a young Drogba
:laugh2:
The Slim Reaper
25-09-2023, 09:56 PM
1706384453411479871
who is like a young Drogba
:laugh2:
Drogba wasn’t the finished article when he joined Chelsea ..
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Drogba wasn’t the finished article when he joined Chelsea ..
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True, but no, Jackson is nothing like a young Drogba.
True, but no, Jackson is nothing like a young Drogba.
He’s only 22 though .. Drogba was 26 when he joined Chelsea and he wasn’t an instant success by any means
Jackson is having it learn his trade in a shockingly poor setup with a group of players low on confidence.
He shares a lot of Drogba’s qualities I feel
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Chelsea shouldn't need a striker to be fair. Man U finished 3rd last season without one, city won the league several times without one. Chelsea have many attack minded players that should be scoring for fun, and they are not. The responsibility is on all the team
Denver
28-09-2023, 02:02 PM
FSG have sold a minority share in the club for £164m, makes us more financial secure
Real Madrid supposedly in talks with Brighton’s manager ( for next summer)
I was hoping Barcelona would go for him
:(
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Crimson Dynamo
28-09-2023, 05:36 PM
Lots of City fans called Talksport on Weds night to complain about Newcastles Bully tactics, flying into tackles, cheating, hacking and wasting time. They could not believe that Joelinton stayed on the park with his vicious tackles
Lots of City fans called Talksport on Weds night to complain about Newcastles Bully tactics, flying into tackles, cheating, hacking and wasting time. They could not believe that Joelinton stayed on the park with his vicious tackles
ive seen him do it in plenty games this season already and he doesn't even get booked. It's pretty obvious there is some Saudi corruption going on. Pay the refs £1m to look the other way.
The Slim Reaper
28-09-2023, 05:50 PM
FSG have sold a minority share in the club for £164m, makes us more financial secure
Terrible news. More money for fsg and more people involved in ownership makes a full sale more difficult. We don't spend anything, so finances shouldn't be an issue to begin with. This "more secure" narrative is pure propaganda.
Crimson Dynamo
28-09-2023, 05:54 PM
ive seen him do it in plenty games this season already and he doesn't even get booked. It's pretty obvious there is some Saudi corruption going on. Pay the refs £1m to look the other way.
i am certain this goes on
Joelinton is the most booked player in the Premier League this season. The 26-year-old has received 11 in his 26 appearances.
no reds :skull:
Lots of City fans called Talksport on Weds night to complain about Newcastles Bully tactics, flying into tackles, cheating, hacking and wasting time. They could not believe that Joelinton stayed on the park with his vicious tackles
So not just me hating on Cloggers United
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Lots of City fans called Talksport on Weds night to complain about Newcastles Bully tactics, flying into tackles, cheating, hacking and wasting time. They could not believe that Joelinton stayed on the park with his vicious tackles
He left Foden and Rico Lewis on the floor with vicious tackles from behind .. wasn’t even reprimanded..
I’m not gonna get into the discussion of bribery and corruption as my beloved Barca have been charged with bribing refs tonight ..
Crazy we seem to get shafted by refs in just about every damn game so we must have bribed the wrong people !!
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Denver
28-09-2023, 06:38 PM
Terrible news. More money for fsg and more people involved in ownership makes a full sale more difficult. We don't spend anything, so finances shouldn't be an issue to begin with. This "more secure" narrative is pure propaganda.
They already Said the money is going on debts, Melwood and other things that they had ti finance
The Slim Reaper
28-09-2023, 06:49 PM
They already Said the money is going on debts, Melwood and other things that they had ti finance
Debts that the club/fans have been paying anyway, not them. Adding more partners makes any future sale way more complicated. £164m is next to nothing in todays market, so will be of no real benefit to the playing side. It's Lavia and Caicedo. Then what?
If they wanted to remove debt from the club, they could have paid for the stadium upgrades themselves, which is allowed through FFP and increases their future sale price more than it does anything for the team on the pitch.. Always looking for someone else to bail them out. They own a club they can't afford to finance if they want it to be successful.
Life was so much easier when refs were simply corrupted by their religious beliefs
Manchester United's Brazilian winger Antony is to return to training after allegations of domestic abuse were made against him.
It is understood the 23-year-old spoke to Greater Manchester Police on Thursday and no restrictions were placed on him following the interview.
United sources say he has provided evidence in support of his strong denials of the allegations.
He has not been arrested or charged in either Brazil or the UK.
In a statement, United said: "As Antony's employer, Manchester United has decided that he will resume training at Carrington and be available for selection, while police inquiries proceed.
Martinez is out for 3 months
Martinez is out for 3 months
Could happen to nicer guy - he’s a thug
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Villa 3.0 ip against Brighton..only 30 gone and that was a clear penalty for Villa not given
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Another useless woman pundit / commentator .
Too much waffle and the rest is nonsense
She just said Villa’s high press has worked every time this season apart from against Liverpool and Newcastle … ( and Warszawa and Everton) ..
I wish they’d just have good quality ex players imparting their expertise and experience). Same with Rugby and Golf
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Brighton are strange, when they're on form they could beat anyone, but days like today they just haven't turned up.
Brighton are strange, when they're on form they could beat anyone, but days like today they just haven't turned up.
They lost at home to virtual nobodies in Europe .
Maybe Real Madrid will have second thoughts on their manager
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They lost at home to virtual nobodies in Europe .
Maybe Real Madrid will have second thoughts on their manager
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I think the occasion got to them in Europe.
I think the occasion got to them in Europe.
… and today :)
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city and united mins away from being beaten
boom .... confirmed
… and today :)
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What do you expect from Brighton though, really? Today was a one off, the defeat being that big. I mean, look at how they've done over the past 3 seasons. 10/15 years ago where were they?
I get you don;t like them for some reason, but you have to give them credit for how well they've done over the years. All the players they've lost, the decent players they've produced, money made, mangers gone etc.
What do you expect from Brighton though, really? Today was a one off, the defeat being that big. I mean, look at how they've done over the past 3 seasons. 10/15 years ago where were they?
I get you don;t like them for some reason, but you have to give them credit for how well they've done over the years. All the players they've lost, the decent players they've produced, money made, mangers gone etc.
What !!!!??
I love watching Brighton !!!
Along with Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs maybe Villa .
They are the five teams I’ll definitely sit down and watch … the rest are meh
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Prediction !?!?
I’m thinking 3:3
I’d prefer Liverpool though
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Brighton will suffer this season while they remain in europe
city and united mins away from being beaten
boom .... confirmed
He has his critics but I think Grealish is one the four most important City players
I bet Grealish is back in his normal starting position soon
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Only two minutes into the game and you can see it’s gonna be a classic
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Shame for Udogie
Saka a few days ago and now Salah
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Interesting to see how the two hotheads Richarlison and Romero fare in a fiercely competitive and fast paced game
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Robertson v Romero will be a tasty clash at sometime this game
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Another game ruined by officials
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No red imo.
Also, i apologise Zizu, i didn't know you liked Brighton. I guess i get a bit protective over them as they are my 2nd team, members of my family have always supported them :laugh:
No red imo.
Also, i apologise Zizu, i didn't know you liked Brighton. I guess i get a bit protective over them as they are my 2nd team, members of my family have always supported them :laugh:
It’s fine ..
It’s unbelievable how they continue to keep playing fabulous football despite constantly selling their best players
Maybe the top teams should buy their scouting staff
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Liverpool should play Nunez up with Salah and sacrifice Gakpo now ..
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Liverpool may just be the best team to cope with ten men but Spurs could be the best team to punish a team of ten men
Intriguing
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liverpool player jones sent off :laugh:
That could easily be a penalty to Liverpool
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Two brilliant teams on show today
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Mystic Mock
30-09-2023, 05:31 PM
Personally I don't get why the commentators are saying that Curtis Jones shouldn't have received a red card? Whether it's intentional or not he did a potential leg breaker.
Overall though I think it's been a good game from both teams.
I hate football
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Personally I don't get why the commentators are saying that Curtis Jones shouldn't have received a red card? Whether it's intentional or not he did a potential leg breaker.
Overall though I think it's been a good game from both teams.
It’s a funny one .. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Jones even foul anyone .. it’s not in his game ..
Like it was pointed out his foot skimmed off the ball into the guys ankle so if wasn’t intentional but it wasn’t even reckless .. just unfortunate
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Denver
30-09-2023, 06:40 PM
Whats happens when you pay refs, we had a goal miles onside ruled offside, a Pen not given and a red card that was a farce
Well, what a bloody game. Really don't like either team, but that game had everything!
Whats happens when you pay refs, we had a goal miles onside ruled offside, a Pen not given and a red card that was a farce
I knew it, i thought it would take longer, but it was pretty instant. Always the same from Liverpool fans!
Denver
30-09-2023, 06:44 PM
I knew it, i thought it would take longer, but it was pretty instant. Always the same from Liverpool fans!
Why defend the refs? They were absolutely shocking and had been clearly trying to get us to lose
Why defend the refs? They were absolutely shocking and had been clearly trying to get us to lose
Im not, first red i didn;t agree with. The refs aren't against you ffs. They don't want you to lose. It's PL football in 2023, not the mid 90's when every ref supported Utd!
Mystic Mock
30-09-2023, 06:48 PM
It’s a funny one .. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Jones even foul anyone .. it’s not in his game ..
Like it was pointed out his foot skimmed off the ball into the guys ankle so if wasn’t intentional but it wasn’t even reckless .. just unfortunate
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Personally I don't like to see red cards given out, but I've seen them given out for less than what Jones did today without the commentators saying a word.
However I will say a fantastic performance from Liverpool considering they went down to nine men, imo they deserved something out of the match.
I knew it, i thought it would take longer, but it was pretty instant. Always the same from Liverpool fans!
It looked clearly ONSIDE yet it was the fastest VAR decision ever and we weren’t shown the VAR lines
I’m guessing there was a technical glitch and they just went with the linesmen’s opinion
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Mystic Mock
30-09-2023, 06:51 PM
I knew it, i thought it would take longer, but it was pretty instant. Always the same from Liverpool fans!
I will say that I agree with Denver on the offside goal, I honestly don't know what the VAR team was thinking when not allowing the goal to stand.
Hang on, lets look at all the close ones over the past 3 weeks, none were given, they favour the defender now it seems. This wasn't exclusively a Liverpool qualm
Denver
30-09-2023, 06:52 PM
Im not, first red i didn;t agree with. The refs aren't against you ffs. They don't want you to lose. It's PL football in 2023, not the mid 90's when every ref supported Utd!
This is the 3rd red card this season they gave us that was a red and we not even in November
This is the 3rd red card this season they gave us that was a red and we not even in November
Jota's was deserved, Jones' was debatable, it was 50/50. Wasn't CLEARLY NOT a red. It was a "yeah, i can see why it was given" - "was a little harsh though as his foot slipped on the ball"
Look at Gusto's red for Chelsea? Same kinda thing!
Crimson Dynamo
30-09-2023, 06:56 PM
:laugh2:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7S0oBIWgAEnjz1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
stick your Turkey teeth up your ar$e you wanker
there is no way that spurs are paying the refs, so that is a non argument
there is no way that spurs are paying the refs, so that is a non argument
It's really sad when you have to stoop that low to justify your team being beat. But, that's Liverpool fans all over.
Crimson Dynamo
30-09-2023, 06:59 PM
It's really sad when you have to stoop that low to justify your team being beat. But, that's Liverpool fans all over.
always the victims
pathetic
I hate Spurs as much as the next person too, 1-1 would have been fine for me. But the better team won. Liverpool aren't hard done by! (the OG was unlucky)
City and Man U have suffered from sending offs too, its not like liverpool are being singled out. Didn't arsenal get a sending off too?
Denver
30-09-2023, 07:02 PM
I hate Spurs as much as the next person too, 1-1 would have been fine for me. But the better team won. Liverpool aren't hard done by! (the OG was unlucky)
Were they the better team? They had every decision go for them and played against 9 men and couldn't score, took an own goal to win and then the pratts celebrated like they won the P
Denver
30-09-2023, 07:04 PM
City and Man U have suffered from sending offs too, its not like liverpool are being singled out
We had so many sending off for weak reasons and lets not forget Jota shouldn't have actually been sent off, he got a yellow card because a player threw himself to the floor when he wasn't near him bit what do I expect when the same VAR team told the world its acceptable to boot a player in the chest last season
Denver
30-09-2023, 07:04 PM
always the victims
pathetic
What a disgusting things to make fun of people dying
Mystic Mock
30-09-2023, 07:04 PM
always the victims
pathetic
Denver's just upset that his team lost after playing so well down to nine men.
I think me and you would be the same if it was our teams in the same situation.
there is no way that spurs are paying the refs, so that is a non argument
I’d suggest our refs / var are simply inept rather than corrupt
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Were they the better team? They had every decision go for them and played against 9 men and couldn't score, took an own goal to win and then the pratts celebrated like they won the P
I can't really continue this debate as putting praise on Spurs hurts my soul. But they kept coming, Liverpool defending well, they didn't give up and were rewarded.
Ok, the "best" team, maybe not, it was very evenly matched. But overall yeah, they had the heart (im gonna be sick) to carry on to the death, and they got their winning goal. Take it on the chin Denver!
I wont be making excuses for Chelsea when they get beat on Monday
I hate Spurs as much as the next person too, 1-1 would have been fine for me. But the better team won. Liverpool aren't hard done by! (the OG was unlucky)
Better team ?
Better on the day is definitely debatable given Spurs should have been 2:1 down and even then they couldn’t make a debt in a 9 man team
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Mystic Mock
30-09-2023, 07:08 PM
I’d suggest our refs / var are simply inept rather than corrupt
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I think it's a mix of both tbh.
Denver
30-09-2023, 07:08 PM
I can't really continue this debate as putting praise on Spurs hurts my soul. But they kept coming, Liverpool defending well, they didn't give up and were rewarded.
Ok, the "best" team, maybe not, it was very evenly matched. But overall yeah, they had the heart (im gonna be sick) to carry on to the death, and they got their winning goal. Take it on the chin Denver!
I wont be making excuses for Chelsea when they get beat on Monday
Id rather lose 5-0 then what ever that farce was today.
The refs shouldn't be given a license at all and the VAR team hold be struck off.
They make so many bad decisions in every game and are not good enough to ref Sunday league
What a disgusting things to make fun of people dying
He wasn't getting at that Denver, please stop asking to be embarrassed. Some of your Pool fans are all the same. At least Slim comes in with productive criticism and doesn't whine claiming Liverpool have been hard done by.
TFWOrY_kd9c
Actual injustice when the refs were 100% instructed by the higher ups to do everything the could to not make a Utd/Chelsea final 2 years on the bounce
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