General Election - Results Show - Sponsored by Larry the cat

[arista]

Now Starmer is talking about 3 New Nuke Subs

[arista]

Labour has 2 MP's in Scotland
That is the one he must increase

[arista]

Starmer now taking Press Questions Live TV News

[arista]

Only SkyNewsHD now


https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ypKdkEbBWpxW

Live Link on X

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Nigel Farage

Nigel_Farage

I will be making an Emergency General Election announcement at 4pm today.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1797559930393604280

[arista]

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Nigel Farage

Nigel_Farage

I will be making an Emergency General Election announcement at 4pm today.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1797559930393604280


That should be Fun.

[arista]

Starmer just said he wants
to save Port Talbot Steel

Answering the reporter from the FT

[arista]

Starmer has Concluded

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/19017675/1717009103/600x200

Nigel Farage

Nigel_Farage

I will be making an Emergency General Election announcement at 4pm today.

https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1797559930393604280

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[GoldHeart]

Good luck to those voting, I won't even bother.

[MTVN]

tYiZcnXrf3Y

I bet he doesn't

What's with the ott language as well, it wouldn't exactly could constitute an 'emergency' even if he is now running

[Crimson Dynamo]

I bet he doesn't

What's with the ott language as well, it wouldn't exactly could constitute an 'emergency' even if he is now running

could be a high profile Tory going over to Reform

[user104658]

could be a high profile Tory going over to Reform

Is a rat fleeing a sinking ship an "emergency"? For who?

[arista]

I bet he doesn't

What's with the ott language as well, it wouldn't exactly could constitute an 'emergency' even if he is now running


The only way
to get Noticed.


I mean Ed Davey,
wants to get noticed.
As a example

[arista]

LBC Live just mentioned the F

Farage update 4PM

[arista]

SkyNewsHD

say he (Farage) could be standing in the Clacton zone?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/03/11/85645915-13488329-image-a-2_1717411385652.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

Farage to be given a safe labour seat

[arista]

Farage to be given a safe labour seat


Tice is going on and on


And now Nigel Farage is the Leader.


Also now Standing for Clacton

[bots]

is farage now standing because trump has been convicted? He was supposed to be going to work for trump

[Zizu]

is farage now standing because trump has been convicted? He was supposed to be going to work for trump


He’s a slimy, weasel featured conman


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[arista]

is farage now standing because trump has been convicted? He was supposed to be going to work for trump

He has changed his mind.

Standing in Clacton 4th of July.

Conservative: Giles Watling
Rerform UK : Nigel Farage
LibDem : Matthew Bensilum
Green Party: Natasha Osben
Labour : Jovan Owusu- Nepaul

[MTVN]

Yougov projecting a 194 seat majority for Labour

[arista]

Yougov projecting a 194 seat majority for Labour


Yes Yougov/SkyNewsHD


And SNP Collapse

[arista]

Farage Now Live on BBCnewsHD

He is telling the Reporter off.


The BBC Reporter Thanked him
for his time

[Kate!]

He’s a slimy, weasel featured conman


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But enough about Trump, let's talk Nige.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Alf]

Do you find it interesting that the UK election is on the 4th of July. American independence day. While the US election is on the 5th of November. The date of the gunpowder plot?

Is it just coincidence?

[arista]

Do you find it interesting that the UK election is on the 4th of July. American independence day. While the US election is on the 5th of November. The date of the gunpowder plot?

Is it just coincidence?


No, I think Sunak did not care
he was rushing to get this General Election out of the way.


Many in the media think
he is ready to fly back to California
sometime after the results.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/b82d/live/04b70ed0-21f3-11ef-80aa-699d54c46324.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/ed65/live/3818be90-21f3-11ef-80aa-699d54c46324.jpg.webp

[Mystic Mock]

Don't the YouGov polls always end up being wildly off though?

[joeysteele]

Had Sunak held out until the Autumn, this divisive wrecker Farage would have much more than likely been in the USA canvassing for his other divisive friend Trump.

I'd rather have the Cons than anything Farage is involved with at any time.

[MTVN]

Don't the YouGov polls always end up being wildly off though?

This poll projecting seats was quite accurate in 2017 and 2019

[bots]

Don't the YouGov polls always end up being wildly off though?


every poll has a margin of error. For example in America the polls are showing them neck and neck, which basically means the polls are useless other than saying its possible it will be close, but also may not :laugh:

Here, if polls are aggregated and one party has a huge lead over another, then the winner is not really in doubt unless everyone that responded is lying. But polls are never really that simple and likely to be closer just by the nature of how constituencies are distributed

[Mystic Mock]

MTVN bitontheslide Yeah I just find the lead hard to believe for Labour more than anything.

Don't get me wrong, I do want them to beat the Tories, it's just that lead takes the distaste towards Sunak to a level that I didn't see coming.

I knew that he was unpopular to be losing to Starmer in the first place, but ****ing hell if that margin actually happens.

[bots]

It's not just Sunak, its covid and all the hassles with Boris and his boozy parties. It's the absurd leadership election and the pain Truss inflicted on the country. It's the shambles that was created when the tories took us out of the EU. It's the cost of living crisis and its the fact that the tory party have been in power for over a decade.

That's why it's the way it is

[user104658]

I'd rather have the Cons than anything Farage is involved with at any time.

Meh he's just a Tory with his balls out on display - fundamentally he doesn't hold any belief that isn't shared by the majority of Tory MP's and every single Tory PM.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not just Sunak, its covid and all the hassles with Boris and his boozy parties. It's the absurd leadership election and the pain Truss inflicted on the country. It's the shambles that was created when the tories took us out of the EU. It's the cost of living crisis and its the fact that the tory party have been in power for over a decade.

That's why it's the way it is

add to that we have now had 2 unelected "leaders" due to the complete sh1tshow that the last elected one made out of Covid - him and his scientific wankers and their lies

[user104658]

add to that we have now had 2 unelected "leaders" due to the complete sh1tshow that the last elected one made out of Covid - him and his scientific wankers and their lies

Four, technically. May and Boris were put to the vote and elected during their run but unelected for a period of time after becoming PM.

[Alf]

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[user104658]

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There were hundreds of people at my daughter's schools' Christmas concert and - I'm going to be brutally honest here - 95% of the music is not good. Not good at all. :worry:

[bots]

everyone already knows what type of person farage is. He is happy to burn things down, but then runs to the hills saying it wasn't his fault. He doesn't yet have a cult following like trump, and likely never will

[joeysteele]

Why do the Greens have 2 leaders??
Does anyone know.

If they ever got hundreds of seats, how many leaders would they need then ??

[The Slim Reaper]

1 leader for each policy difference between labour and tories.

[arista]

Why do the Greens have 2 leaders??
Does anyone know.

If they ever got hundreds of seats, how many leaders would they need then ??


Yes it is Wrong
not one of them has said anything about the
Islamist Extremist in their party.

When he won
he was not green more Gaza

[joeysteele]

Yes it is Wrong
not one of them has said anything about the
Islamist Extremist in their party.

When he won
he was not green more Gaza

It just seems odd.
Needing 2 actual leaders.

I've quite liked some of what the Greens have said in the past but they often leave me more confused than really answer anything too.

[bots]

if they won the GE, would they be joint PM?

[arista]

Jeremy Corbyn is now an Independent Standing,

Against Praful Nargund of the Labour Party

[joeysteele]

if they won the GE, would they be joint PM?

Probably do a share.
One PM for the first half
The other for the second half.

I just don't get it.!!!

[joeysteele]

Interesting and only one poll.

However it seems yougov are changing their method of polling.

The latest poll coming out has Labour apparently on 40%, the Cons on 19% and REFORM now rising to 17%.
That's quite some change if that's where things are going.

[The Slim Reaper]

Labour won 40% of the vote in 2017. That statistic alone points out both the absurdity of our political system, and the fact this election is a tory collapse, and absolutely nothing to do with enthusiasm for labour.

[bots]

As slim suggests, % of the vote is not necessarily as meaningful as it looks. The tories have had 13 years to mess around with constituencies so that they favour tory seat numbers irrespective of national vote %.

That doesn't mean the polls are wrong, it just means that it may not translate so easily into seat majorities

[arista]

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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[arista]

One For Slim

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPUH48JXkAAWu41?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-da7691db-a2f3-477d-a490-cf3497878a96.jpeg


Was there any need to put a photo of this withered old floozy in front of us , first thing in the morning !!


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[arista]

Owen Jones who backed Labour
Is going to vote for the Green Party on the 4th of July.

He confirmed on the Ch5HD AM 2nd live debate show
today.


He hates Starmer

[arista]

From Todays Politics Live BBC2HD

Conservative Chairman Richard Holden
has not a seat now, due to boundary changes,
so they has been Dumped him on
Basildon & Billericay

Conservative :Richard Holden
Reform UK :Stephen Colney
Labour :Alex Harrison
LibDem :Ed Sainsbury
Green Party :Stewart Goshwak


The Panel thought it was wrong.

[Gusto Brunt]

The Tories arre supposedly only 2 points in front of Reform.

ButReform won't get a single seat. :p

[Liam-]

The tories have taken another £5million donation from the guy who said Dianne Abbott should be shot and that she makes him hate all black women

[arista]

The Tories arre supposedly only 2 points in front of Reform.

But Reform won't get a single seat. :p

Hang on Politics Live today BBC2HD
the panel said the think Nigel will win in Clacton.


Put some sources for what you think
GUSTO>>>>>>>>>>

[arista]

The tories have taken another £5million donation from the guy who said Dianne Abbott should be shot and that she makes him hate all black women


Yes
Slick Liam
they needed that cash for Extra HD Color
leaflets............

[arista]

Older Voters like High Definition
Leaflets.

[Gusto Brunt]

Hang on Politics Live today BBC2HD
the panel said the think Nigel will win in Clacton.


Put some sources for what you think
GUSTO>>>>>>>>>>

I don't have to, Arista. ;)

I can express an opinion based on my gut feeling. :p

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d1d3c6f5-9df6-4a8b-8019-df752e5e09ec.jpeg

[MTVN]

Just been seeing that on Newsnight, real bad look for Sunak

[arista]

Just been seeing that on Newsnight, real bad look for Sunak


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1a69402b-7544-4223-a7fd-70036a04e781.jpeg

[arista]

Green Party Problems


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[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

The tories have taken another £5million donation from the guy who said Dianne Abbott should be shot and that she makes him hate all black women

Oh I remember that charmer.

It's not a good luck for the Tories to be associated with him.

[bots]

if we went into detail on large donors to any political party we would find that they had a reason to donate.

[joeysteele]

The really negative side of Sunak's arrogance is shining through more and more

He really should have stayed in France for the whole D Day remembrance.
To only leave to do a political domestic interview.
Showed nothing endearing about him.

No doubt he'll apologise but this was a really shocking bad judgement by him.

Most people watching it really were longing they could have been there.
Stunning the UK leader chose to leave.
That doesn't show respect at all for the event, even more bad and disrespectful towards the veterans.

[arista]

The really negative side of Sunak's arrogance is shining through more and more

He really should have stayed in France for the whole D Day remembrance.
To only leave to do a political domestic interview.
Showed nothing endearing about him.

No doubt he'll apologise but this was a really shocking bad judgement by him.

Most people watching it really were longing they could have been there.
Stunning the UK leader chose to leave.
That doesn't show respect at all for the event, even more bad and disrespectful towards the veterans.



No Joey
he thought tubby Cameron
could do better than him.

[joeysteele]

No Joey
he thought tubby Cameron
could do better than him.

No arista.

It was D Day remembrance event.
Not D Day morning or D Day afternoon.

He should have stayed there.
Plus had.Starmer left early to do a political interview, with Sunak staying throughout.

I can just imagine the horror being expressed by the media against Starmer.
Which in my view would have been right.

Excuse his disrespect all you wish.
However I'm not going to, Sunak showed his shocking judgement and selfish arrogance only.

He's really gifted Labour, the other Parties and particularly Nigel Farage's Reform with his bad judgement on leaving earlier.
I can imagine this being a hard call for Mordaunt tonight to defend and am dying to hear Farage get going as to it.

[bots]

Sunak is really not helping himself

[user104658]

I'm convinced Sunak is an NPC, he doesn't seem to exist in the real world whatsoever.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rishi Sunak's choice to leave the D-Day anniversary event early demonstrates that patriotism is a second-order concern to our managerial political class

It didn’t even occur to him that being truant from the ceremony would cause offence

In his heart, he doesn't feel he belongs to Britain over anywhere else

He can move anywhere if it offers better job prospects

You can see it in the language of his apology

D-Day was apparently about preserving the rootless doctrine of the international liberal order

"our values, our freedom, our democracy" rings hollow. It can and has been said by any leader anywhere in Europe and the Anglosphere

He doesn't speak about anything exclusive to Britain, or its people

He doesn't, and cannot, say we owe a debt to our ancestors for the sacrifices they made to protect our Shires and Cathedrals, because he feels no kinship or connection to them

He doesn't partake in the national faith. He was parachuted into the safe-seat constituency he purports to represent

He speaks of "values" that can be worn and shorn like a coat. They have no hold over him which cannot be shed for his convenience

No wonder he made such a catastrophic blunder: because that day means no more to him than another ending in Y

This is why apathy has taken hold, and why many patriotic people across Britain feel the Conservative party no longer represents them

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1798979613240250529

[arista]

I'm convinced Sunak is an NPC, he doesn't seem to exist in the real world whatsoever.

He is on TV news
and is very sorry.


That ITV interview is not to be shown until next week?
So no rush..............

[arista]

Pushy Paul Brand ITV reporter should have told him
he would fly out to him.....................

[bots]

he had at least half a dozen people who could have said, are you sure this event has actually finished?

He knew exactly what he was doing, and didn't give a toss. It's not much different to Trump failing to attend one year because the weather would mess up his hair

[smudgie]

Not forgetting of course that Gordon Brown only changed his mind about not going to the 65th anniversary when he heard that Barack Obama was going to attend.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/PortalPictures/june-2024/STARMER-CORBYN-LEAD.gif?imwidth=640

[Denver]

I can honestly see the Lib Dems forming the opposition government to Labour, Conservatives are dead and will only have their safe seats and wil rely on the swing seats which honestly they are doing nothing to show people they are worth voting and honestly it wouldn't be a huge shock if reform took the 3rd most with the Tories knocked down but this election shouldn't just be about Labour taking charge but showing that we are not a 2 party state

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Alf]

Do I have to have ID to vote?

[arista]

Do I have to have ID to vote?


Yes you do Alf

[Alf]

Yes you do AlfWell then Nigel will only get my vote if I can be arsed to get some ID. Which is very unlikely.

[arista]

Well then Nigel will only get my vote if I can be arsed to get some ID. Which is very unlikely.



A Photo bus pass is good enough

[Alf]

A Photo bus pass is good enoughI'm not a pensioner.

[arista]

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[Mystic Mock]

I'm convinced Sunak is an NPC, he doesn't seem to exist in the real world whatsoever.

Isn't 95% of the world a bunch of NPC's?:laugh:

[arista]

4 weeks,
to go SB


Sunak is above you
that's how you must see him.

[bots]

oops ......

Unite, Labour's biggest trade union backer, has refused to endorse the party's general election manifesto, saying it does not go far enough on protecting workers' rights and jobs in the oil and gas industry.

Union leaders were at a meeting on Friday to finalise the party's 2024 election platform ahead of its launch next week.

The BBC understands that at the meeting Unite announced they would not endorse Labour's plans.

There is now a question mark over whether Unite will fund the party at the general election. In 2019, Unite gave £3m to Labour's campaign.

Unite General Secretary Sharon Graham had previously warned there were "no blank cheques" for Labour.

Ahead of the meeting, Unite told the BBC it wanted to see the end of zero hours contracts - and a complete ban on the practice of "hire and fire" practices where workers are fired and taken back on with worse pay and conditions.

"We go into the meeting with open hearts but girded loins," one union leader told the BBC before entering the meeting.

The public service union Unison wanted to ensure commitments to improved pay and wage bargaining are in the document.

When asked about union unease before the meeting, Sir Keir said: “We’ve got a very good package for working people. This is the biggest levelling up of rights at work for a very, very long time.

“This is about, for me, the respect and dignity that I think everyone should have at work. But it’s also crucial to our plan for growth."

Labour's main themes for government have been established for months, but final details will be published next week in a full manifesto launch.

A manifesto outlines what a party plans to do if it forms the next government.

But party rules, specifically clause five, require the final manifesto to be signed off at a special meeting of the shadow cabinet, the parliamentary committee of Labour MPs, the Scottish and Welsh Labour leaders, the chair and vice-chairs of the National Policy Forum, the national executive committee, and representatives of affiliated trade unions.

Clause five does not require all stakeholders to agree to the manifesto for it to be valid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c722zkj9ly8o

[arista]

Yes The Big Union does like Starmer being soft
on Fire and re-hire

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

Do you find it interesting that the UK election is on the 4th of July. American independence day. While the US election is on the 5th of November. The date of the gunpowder plot?

Is it just coincidence?
Both - I find it interesting, and it's a coincidence. But an interesting one.

I'm convinced Sunak is an NPC, he doesn't seem to exist in the real world whatsoever.

Isn't 95% of the world a bunch of NPC's?:laugh:
It pisses me off that NPC has become a meme/label, because as a gamer I used to call randos I'd walk past that.

[arista]

Labour Bus London on the way for Rachel Reeves
to speak for small businesses.
She wants to stop late payments to small firms.



Conservative Bus in North Yorkshire


Good on SkyNewsHD
two top reporters on each Bus.

[arista]

Sunak has become Pathetic

He was in Yorkshire today on camera
but refused any interviews? today

We know he has messed up
he could say again he is sorry about D-Day,
and then talk about the area he is in..........

[bots]

usually, the party that is behind in the polls gets a boost when the election is announced, but Sunak has single handily tanked the tories chances. I would normally say, oops he made a mistake, but it's been a whole string of stuff designed to tank the vote. At this point, i'm pretty certain it's intentional. I think he wants the tories wiped out. It will no doubt become clear in the months and years ahead why he chose to do it

[arista]

Ed Davey has good advice
for Sunak, he spoke on SkyNewsHD

Sunak should give the Charirty for Servicemen a
£5million donation..........

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d9080647-0d89-498b-9525-895e6a0ccd33.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5bab06ce-2335-4b3b-845d-f5da7f7e9df4.jpeg

[arista]

So Labour will build New Prisons
and any homes near them are stuck there.

[arista]

Shadow Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood
has confirmed that Labour will change the rules on
Motor bikes that are used by criminal youths,
After 48hours every crime bike will be Crushed

So they will do it, faster than the Conservatives

[arista]

Fantastic Politic Hub
Live on SkyNewsHD

Why is the PM Sunak refusing to ask questions - Still.

Liam Fox admits it will be over for him.


He is talking about Massive Amount,
of people no longer in work

[arista]

Labours Manifesto Thursday

Sad Sunak is Tuesday.


Lets hope Sunak can talk to the Press by then?

[arista]

SNP manifesto is the 19th Weds

LibDem is Monday, tomorrow

[arista]

This paper also posted on the Reform UK thread

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-09a2db8f-d714-49a3-924d-c707aa35627e.jpeg

[arista]

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[arista]

Lib Dem Deputy said they want to rejoin the EU

But she said it is not on the table.

Some time in the Future


On GMBHD itv Ed Balls pushed her.

She kept saying at some time in the Future

[arista]

https://images.ctfassets.net/pjshm78m9jt4/7kJOZxJk8fr7eACJftZrWk/e96824944e14083558e39b418ab5ed30/PA-76473272.jpg?fm=avif&fit=fill&w=830&h=467&q=80


Sunak in Horsham, today

[arista]

[The Green Party of England and Wales has
removed Shahrar Ali from his role as the party’s
spokesperson for policing and domestic safety.
The decision was confirmed by the chair of the
party’s executive Liz Reason on Twitter.
According to Reason, “the Green Party Executive has
removed Shahrar Ali from his role as party
spokesperson for breaches of the Speakers’ Code of Conduct.”]

https://bright-green.org/2022/02/05/breaking-shahrar-ali-removed-as-green-party-spokesperson/

[arista]

In The UK
Many 19year olds & at around that age
are not going to vote.

This was debated Live this morning on
LBC.

Many say they do not need to..................

[arista]

8PM - 8:30PM BBC1HD tonight

Nick Robinson has a 25mins interview with Sunak

I will record it.

[joeysteele]

That interview was really bad.
Sunak was terrible.

Just in denial it seemed on near everything.

[Zizu]

That interview was really bad.
Sunak was terrible.

Just in denial it seemed on near everything.


Time for Penny to take over maybe ?


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[Mystic Mock]

Both - I find it interesting, and it's a coincidence. But an interesting one.




It pisses me off that NPC has become a meme/label, because as a gamer I used to call randos I'd walk past that.

If you can find me a bottle of Milk, I'll give you a special sword as your reward.

[Mystic Mock]

usually, the party that is behind in the polls gets a boost when the election is announced, but Sunak has single handily tanked the tories chances. I would normally say, oops he made a mistake, but it's been a whole string of stuff designed to tank the vote. At this point, i'm pretty certain it's intentional. I think he wants the tories wiped out. It will no doubt become clear in the months and years ahead why he chose to do it

Tbf it's not really him that's the problem.

The Tories have been terrible since David Cameron got into power for his first term, and they've just ran out of people to blame their incompetence on by the time that it's came around to Sunak.

[joeysteele]

Time for Penny to take over maybe ?


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That may not be possible Zizu.

If things stay as they are it's getting more expected that she'll lose her seat in Portsmouth.

She'd be a far better prospect for the Cons than Sunak ever could be however.

[Mystic Mock]

So Labour will build New Prisons
and any homes near them are stuck there.

I can get behind this.

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[arista]

8PM - 8:30PM BBC1HD tonight

Nick Robinson has a 25mins interview with Sunak

I will record it.




Nick Robinson was good
he pushed Rishi on Farage.


Good Format
Leaders do not have notes
One on One.


Looking Forward to Starmer

[arista]

NewsnightHD BBC2

Right To Buy is back
to help younger folks

Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?

[Zizu]

That may not be possible Zizu.

If things stay as they are it's getting more expected that she'll lose her seat in Portsmouth.

She'd be a far better prospect for the Cons than Sunak ever could be however.


The Tories should throw all their energies into assuring she wins her seat .

I always assumed the top serving politicians got preferential treatment to avoid any embarrassment ..


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[Zizu]

NewsnightHD BBC2

Right To Buy is back
to help younger folks

Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?


Wonder how Angela Rayner will handle that ‘hot potato’ [emoji3]


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[Zizu]

I'm not a hypocrite': Angela Rayner hits back after its revealed she made a £48k profit when selling her ex-council house under the right-to-buy scheme Labour now wants to overhaul

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[joeysteele]

NewsnightHD BBC2

Right To Buy is back
to help younger folks

Today is the Conservative Manifesto


Are you ready Joey?

As I understand right to buy won't help the young since they won't be the tenants anyhow to buy the property.

I think manifestos are largely irrelevant.
I've canvassed in elections since 2015.
I've yet to hear someone saying they had A manifesto or manifestos, never mind even read any.

It would seem that Sunak is doing what Corbyn did in 2019.
Throwing anything out there recklessly.

Manifestos only now really give a guide to what may be done.
Not fully what will be .
Sunak unlike Starmer is looking like going down the road of over promising to end up under delivering again

Whereas Starmer is likely to be going to end up under promising in the hope of over delivering.

[bots]

all the parties are weak. They have thousands of things that they need to improve with no cash to do it. The tories and labour have committed to not raising taxes, so the only way they can meaningfully increase spending is through economic growth and that can't be significantly increased in 5 years. So, whoever wins, is out of luck :laugh:

[arista]

[It would seem that Sunak is doing what Corbyn did in 2019.
Throwing anything out there recklessly.]

Yes Starmer stated Sunak is doing a Corbyn Manifesto.


How nice for Slim.

We get Starmer's on Thursday

[arista]

Live on all 3 News Channels,


Conservative Manifesto with cabinet members

Gillian Ed Sec.

Silverstone

[smudgie]

Live on all 3 News Channels,


Conservative Manifesto with cabinet members

Gillian Ed Sec.

Silverstone

Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.:shrug:

[arista]

Now they all clapping Sunak?

[bots]

Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.:shrug:

i don't honestly think it matters at this point :laugh:

Labour or tory governments are both hamstrung before they start, so things will just go into a holding pattern for 5 years until the next election, by which time things may have changed, or more than likely, will just be as they are now. Global events are of far greater importance in the short and medium term, none of which we have any real influence over

[arista]

Our local Mayor is going for it now.
Ben Houchen has done marvels as The Tees Valley mayor.
Our local mp is also ok, but I am afraid the Tories have had their day.
Not sure what would be a better alternative at this time mind.:shrug:


Yes one of the good ones

[Zizu]

I hate politicians and politics !!

The tories announce loads of tax cuts and reducing national insurance when the NHS , the police , education and defence are all grossly underfunded !!


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[arista]

Rachel Reeves
was live on 2 News Channels
having a go at Sunak

[joeysteele]

I know for sure I'll be underwhelmed by the manifesto from Labour this time.
When it is revealed this week.

However, somehow I expected more than what came from the Cons today.
It was also underwhelming.

[The Slim Reaper]

all the parties are weak. They have thousands of things that they need to improve with no cash to do it. The tories and labour have committed to not raising taxes, so the only way they can meaningfully increase spending is through economic growth and that can't be significantly increased in 5 years. So, whoever wins, is out of luck :laugh:

The simple way to do this is to tax the wealth of the richest people in the country, but those former tory donors now donating big wads to labour aren't doing it because they want to pay their fair share. So what will happen is what's happened for the last 14 years; cuts and more austerity.

Why normal everyday people fight for the mega wealthy to keep all their money is just a mystery.

This country used to provide so much. A welfare state that helped support some of the best bands ever produced, free education that provided our nurses, doctors and scientists. We've willingly let that money be stolen from us, in order that Billionaires and hundred-millionaires get to carry on growing their nest eggs at exponential rates.

I've been accused on here of hating England and the fact I'm English, but there is no more patriotic thing than to point out the flaws in a country capable of so much better.

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[arista]

GMBHD itv
played clips of Paul Brand Interview

ITV1HD 7PM - 7:30PM tonight has Paul Brand and Sunak
(recorded on the end of D-Day events)


Meanwhile 7PM - 7:30PM BBC1 SNP leader
interviewed by Nick Robinson


Then 7:30PM - 9PM Live SkyNewsHD Starmer /Sunak in Grimsby.

[bots]

My poll card arrived yesterday. Now all i need is someone to vote for

[bots]

Apparently Grant Shapps said this morning that people should vote tory to avoid labour getting a super majority in parliament.

If that's not admitting defeat, i don't know what is

[Crimson Dynamo]

My poll card arrived yesterday. Now all i need is someone to vote for

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[MTVN]

Apparently Grant Shapps said this morning that people should vote tory to avoid labour getting a super majority in parliament.

If that's not admitting defeat, i don't know what is

They also put out a new ad yesterday warning about the Tories going down to third (behind Lib Dem) if people didn't vote for them :laugh:

It's certainly a new approach

[bots]

They also put out a new ad yesterday warning about the Tories going down to third (behind Lib Dem) if people didn't vote for them :laugh:

It's certainly a new approach

I think Sunak wants the tories to be wiped out. To be honest, he would join Liz Truss in the hall of fame and probably then go off giggling to live in America :laugh:

[arista]

My poll card arrived yesterday. Now all i need is someone to vote for


No rush 3 weeks or so,

[joeysteele]

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Cons getting worried of a possible PR electoral change being considered.
For the elections post 2028/29.
So from 2033/34.

I really do believe immaterial of this election's result.
PR is on the way in the next 10 years.
It will ONLY be Labour who will embrace it too.
Since it's been passed overwhelmingly TWICE at Labour conferences in the last 3 years.

PR could ensure centre, centre left Parties being the majority governing coalition for decades.
If it's planned and brought in the right way.

[bots]

if the tories get wiped out there will be a fundamental political re-alignment. I guess it can be looked at a number of ways, but my belief is that Boris turned the tory party into ukip and that's why they are suffering now. My hope is that traditional tories will re-appear and take back the party because all the country has done is move further and further to the right

[Gusto Brunt]

The Greenss press conference on just now. Talking about how they will run the run. :p

IF they get in. :D :D :p :p

[joeysteele]

Ugh the Greens.
I cannot work them out at all.

One MP at present yet they've 2 co-leaders.
Now their DEPUTY leader is on the news.

????? They seem a very top heavy Party.

[Crimson Dynamo]

NEW: Conservative MP Andrea Jenkyns has used a photo of Reform UK Leader
Nigel Farage on her election campaign leaflet


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GP3gsL3XMAEQwpI?format=jpg&name=small

You're seeing the pieces be put into place for a backbench Conservative /
Farage pact in real time

If you're in Leeds South West and Morley, you should vote for
andreajenkyns


Her team has produced great research on the costs of illegal immigration,
and she's more than willing to let Nigel lead in opposition

Punish the One Nation consensus, and reward the handful of decent MPs who
tried to do the right thing

https://x.com/Con_Tomlinson/status/1800848303174635532

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Guardian reveals that Rishi Sunak's
"closest parliamentary aide" placed
a £100 bet on a July election three days
before the Conservative Party named the date.]


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[bots]

i've never seen anything like it before. The level of incompetence being shown by the tories is just unthinkable. They have no messaging that passes even basic scrutiny. I've heard that tory mp's are basically going it alone now and trying with desperation to save their own seats.

It's just an absolute mess :laugh:

BId9PeP1N3k

if labour have a huge majority, then labour will become their own opposition. That's just how it works, and labour are exactly the party to be their own opposition

[Ammi]

…I guess because it’s been such a mess of a leadership for such a long, long time…to have had such a country leadership that has governed for their own self serving interests with disregard and contempt to the interests of the people…and for so long …?…is a very rare thing also…what messages to they have to give that would have any credibility…?…when they’ve had the privilege of being able to show us their ‘visions’ but have failed in that completely…there are no words that will change that, there is nothing for them to say and Rishi Sunak is very good in the role of being pointless…

[bots]

Someone also pointed out that Cameron filled in for Sunak at the D Day event. He was previously PM for 5+ years and had attended the event in the past. Why didn't he say to Sunak, are you sure you want to disappear? Something isn't right there :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

Here's my verdict on the 'debate' last night on Sky News.

I thought Starmer didn't answer one direct question. He was basically reciting the script he had written probably 12 hours previously.:nono:

Sunak looked a beaten man. His deflated performance bored me and I switched off the TV about 20 minutes into his stint.

All in all, no one 'won' the debate.

[Ammi]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rishi-sunak-closest-aide-placed-170744427.html

[bots]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rishi-sunak-closest-aide-placed-170744427.html

thats a cracker :laugh: He is also an MP and there is no way as his closest aide he didn't know there was going to a a GE in July

At this point, i'm actually coming round to the idea that a significant number of tories within the party wanted Sunak to lose and have taken action to make it happen

[Ammi]

thats a cracker :laugh: He is also an MP and there is no way as his closest aide he didn't know there was going to a a GE in July

At this point, i'm actually coming round to the idea that a significant number of tories within the party wanted Sunak to lose and have taken action to make it happen

…honestly, it’s just an entire fabric of dishonesty and self serving actions…’vote for us, we’ll give you riches beyond your dreams because we’re experienced at that…/…the in house trials are endless and very fruitful…’….:laugh:…it’s how blatant that is as well, never thinking….oooooo, that might look a bit dodgy…

[Zizu]

…honestly, it’s just an entire fabric of dishonesty and self serving actions…’vote for us, we’ll give you riches beyond your dreams because we’re experienced at that…/…the in house trials are endless and very fruitful…’….:laugh:…it’s how blatant that is as well, never thinking….oooooo, that might look a bit dodgy…


The other parties are just the same though ..


Just look at all the promises being made over the last few days .. they’ve all looked at the polls indicating the general public’s main areas of concern wether it be the NHS , the police , immigration , depleted armed forces or even damn pot-holes .

They choose one , say they’re gonna sort the problem out .. then when they get into power (whoever it is ) they will do diddly squat squared


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[bots]

Some people are now projecting that the tories will get less than 70 seats. It could be the biggest political realignment in our history

[Gusto Brunt]

Rishi Sunak aide placed bet on election date days before announcement…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/rishi-sunak-closest-aide-placed-170744427.html

:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

“I put a flutter on the general election some weeks ago. This has resulted in some routine
inquiries and I confirm I will fully cooperate with these.

“I don’t want it to be a distraction from the campaign, I should have thought how it looks.”

That was The Prime Minister's closest aide

:facepalm:

[bots]

“I put a flutter on the general election some weeks ago. This has resulted in some routine
inquiries and I confirm I will fully cooperate with these.

“I don’t want it to be a distraction from the campaign, I should have thought how it looks.”

That was The Prime Minister's closest aide

:facepalm:

he placed the bet 3 days before sunak announced it :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The penny is finally beginning to drop on mass migration. The Conservatives and Labour
have failed us all.

48 second clip here from Nigel speaking to Nick on LBC earlier: https://x.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1801172576997159312

[bots]

farage won't do anything at this election, the most he will get is 1 seat. All he is doing is damaging the tories chances and giving more power to the left of british politics. I think that tells everyone what farage is all about

[Crimson Dynamo]

farage won't do anything at this election, the most he will get is 1 seat. All he is doing is damaging the tories chances and giving more power to the left of british politics. I think that tells everyone what farage is all about

the only people who have driven this country to the left is the Tories

and them alone

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage willing to lead merged Conservative-Reform party after election

Reform leader says the ‘Tories may well be dead’ and only he can lead a centre-Right party
and provide opposition to a Labour government

Asked if he could rule out one day leading the Conservative Party, Mr Farage
told LBC this morning: “I think something new is going to emerge on the
centre Right, I don’t know what it is called.

“But do I think I am capable of leading a national opposition to a Labour
Party with a big majority where I can stand up and hold them to account on
issues? Yes.”

Asked if he would be happy to lead a merged party, he replied: “Yes.”

He added: “They [the Tories] may be dead. They may well be dead. This may
well be the end of their journey. I would be prepared to lead the centre Right
in this country.”

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[bots]

he will fail. He is just another george galloway

[arista]

Labours Raynor
now live on all 3 News ch's

Doing the Labour Manifesto in Manchester

Now it is the Iceland Food Store CEO talking

[arista]

Now it is East London Poor Dad talking

[arista]

Now they have a Music Teacher
who has cancer.

Talking at the Manchester Event.

[arista]

Now it is Holly a first-time voter


Having a go at Boris Johnson.

[arista]

Now it is Starmer


Also, Live on Radio now

[arista]

A Protestor was Removed

Shouting at Starmer

[joeysteele]

Ooh a heckler.
Wish they'd let them rant a bit.
It's good to see how politicians deal with and react to them.

[MTVN]

Good line from Starmer tbf about how 'we gave up being a party of protest 5 years ago'

[arista]

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[Zizu]

“I put a flutter on the general election some weeks ago. This has resulted in some routine
inquiries and I confirm I will fully cooperate with these.

“I don’t want it to be a distraction from the campaign, I should have thought how it looks.”

That was The Prime Minister's closest aide

:facepalm:


Corruption , incompetence and ineptitude flows freely and equally through all the political parties


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[arista]

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[arista]

Now taking Press questions

Beth Rigby asks why nothing is new
in the 132 paper Document?

[arista]

Starmers growth?

If the World Markets allow that.

[arista]

Starmer wants the press to do one question only

[Zizu]

Starmer wants the press to do one question only


Is Starmer really the best that Labour can come up with or is simply the only one without any serious skeletons in the cupboard and looks ok ?


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[arista]

Is Starmer really the best that Labour can come up with or is simply the only one without any serious skeletons in the cupboard and looks ok ?



He is staying put
soon expected, to be the new PM

[arista]

All that effort to make one Question at a time


And Loads of Reporters were left with No Questions Asked

[Denver]

farage won't do anything at this election, the most he will get is 1 seat. All he is doing is damaging the tories chances and giving more power to the left of british politics. I think that tells everyone what farage is all about

Its the Lib Dems who are best placed for the opposition

[arista]

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She was protesting
that Starmer is like the Conservatives.


SkyNews reporter there told us.

[Denver]

The thing i massively disagree on is giving the under 18s the same pay as people who have the bills and that to pay as I think that is what pay cripple the work force in the UK though it will stop companies purposely employing young people to pay them less

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Here is Starmer doing a series of complete changes of mind as the the wind changes

https://x.com/WhatIsAWomanUK/status/1801189578084130843

[arista]

From Politics Live BBC2HD

the put up changed area

Pendle & Clitheroe Candidates

Labour :Johnathan Hinder
Conservative : Andrew Stephenson
LibDem: Anna Fryer
Green : Lex Kristan

And 2 Independents


No Reform UK listed

[arista]

PM Sunak
is now in Italy for a G7 Summit
a few days away from General Election
with Macron, Biden etc.


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[Nicky91]

the question is

could the UK sink lower than low in politics, when u already sank that low with hopeless clowns like Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak


you'd think they had reached that all time low long time ago with Blair, but the UK never fails to impress me from a negative perspective :laugh:

[arista]

the question is

could the UK sink lower than low in politics, when u already sank that low with hopeless clowns like Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Rishi Sunak


you'd think they had reached that all time low long time ago with Blair, but the UK never fails to impress me from a negative perspective :laugh:

No Nicky forget them Conservatives


UK is looking to go Tubby Starmer

[arista]

New Ipos poll Scotland


Labour: 36% (+4)
SNP :36% (-3)
Conservative: 13% (-1)
Lib Dems: 5% (-1)
Reform UK: 4% (+1)
Greens: 3% (-1)
Alba:1% (NC)

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage
Nigel_Farage


Tonight on Channel 4 at 7.55pm, the Reform Party will release one of the most exciting Party Election Broadcasts ever produced.

I’m amazed it even got past compliance, but we did it.

You won’t want to miss this.

[arista]

He is also on the 7 Leaders Debate ITV1HD Live 8:30PM

[Crimson Dynamo]

mu voting card arrived today!

[Crimson Dynamo]

PM Sunak
is now in Italy for a G7 Summit
a few days away from General Election
with Macron, Biden etc.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/13/13/86071071-0-image-m-25_1718280053976.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GP86HZGWMAECH17?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

He is staying put
soon expected, to be the new PM


When I think of Labour …

I just think of lily-livered Starmer , Angela gobby Rayner , Jonathan slimeball Ashworth and Diane Abbott


Gawd help us all !!



If Labour is the answer I dread to think what the question is ..


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[arista]

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[arista]

Chipping Barnet

Conservative: Theresa Villiers
Labour : Dan Tomlinson
Lib Dems: Mark Durrant
Green: David Farbey
Reform UK: Richard Hewison

and an independent

[The Slim Reaper]

farage won't do anything at this election, the most he will get is 1 seat. All he is doing is damaging the tories chances and giving more power to the left of british politics. I think that tells everyone what farage is all about

The left isn't winning at this election. Labour are nowhere near the left, as they promise to double down on all the failed policies we've faced for the last 14 years. Really weird comment all round.

[bots]

The left isn't winning at this election. Labour are nowhere near the left, as they promise to double down on all the failed policies we've faced for the last 14 years. Really weird comment all round.

thanks for calling me weird. They are the left leaning party in british politics. That is a fact. So take your snipy comments and shove em where the sun don't shine

[The Slim Reaper]

thanks for calling me weird. They are the left leaning party in british politics. That is a fact. So take your snipy comments and shove em where the sun don't shine

I said your comment was weird, not you.

Labour are not even left-leaning anymore; how many right wing policies do they need to adopt before this myth has been dismissed?

Nothing snipy about my comment, it was a genuine opinion based on what you wrote, Never known a dude get on his high horse so much, just because an opinion you've shared, isn't shared by someone else. Now that is weird behaviour.

[bots]

Labour are the most left leaning party that have a realistic chance of becoming the government in the UK.

My point about farage was that by going after the tories, the only people he is helping are to the left in British politics. If the tories end up with less than 70 seats, which is possible the way things are going, it gives freedom to labour to shift further and further to the left unopposed because the tories are likely to be out of the running for a long time

[The Slim Reaper]

Labour are the most left leaning party that have a realistic chance of becoming the government in the UK.

My point about farage was that by going after the tories, the only people he is helping are to the left in British politics. If the tories end up with less than 70 seats, which is possible the way things are going, it gives freedom to labour to shift further and further to the left unopposed because the tories are likely to be out of the running for a long time


Being the most left-leaning party whilst up against the hardest RW tory government in memory, is completely redundant. It's like saying that Goebbels was the most left leaning member of the Nazi party.

Labour as a party is not in any way left leaning these days, and Farage is obviously playing the long game to ingratiate himself as future leader of the tory party. He's not helping the left by running in Clacton. It's a move to take over the party you have voted for, for most of your life.

Even if what you said was true, it's still worthless because Tories were always getting wiped out in this election. it's been obvious since covid, and there was nothing anyone (on the right or left) could have done to change that, so whether tories have 100 seats or 70 seats, the result was always the same.

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i wonder if i should put a bet on that by election day, the greens will be more popular than the tories :laugh:

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Tonight

BBC1HD 7:30PM Starmer Interviewed by Nick Robinson

Not Live. 28mins

[Alf]

Dawn is down with the kids. You get me?


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[Alf]

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?

[Zizu]

Empty promises

I really don’t see why manifestos are considered to be quite so important given its all complete tosh and none of the parties ever follow through with their promises !!



I am absolutely certain that if Labour had been in control for the last 14 years with Covid and Brexit and all the fallout from them..

We would be in EXACTLY the same position now and all the parties would be promising the earth as they are now


For the lowest 95% of us all it doesn’t make diddly squat squared of a difference which party is in power and never has


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manifestos have a legal standing. If the government passes a law detailed in the manifesto, the house of lords can't delay it or reject it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

[Zizu]

manifestos have a legal standing. If the government passes a law detailed in the manifesto, the house of lords can't delay it or reject it


The Tories are quoting dates in 2029 for one of their tax cuts to kick in .. that’s fanciful at best and complete nonsense imho


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[arista]

On LBC AM

Remoaners are calling in angry at
the Labour Manifesto
that it states no joining the EU again.


Starmer has made this clear from months ago
he wants to get Elected

The Remoaners are crazy people

Watch the Bloody News - You fools

[Crimson Dynamo]

This has over a million views on TikTok today


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[user104658]

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

Not entirely incompatible, socialist-leaning policies aren't necessarily at odds with capitalism. You're going down the dumdum American route (lie/propaganda over there) of suggesting that "socialism" is synonymous with "communism".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not entirely incompatible, socialist-leaning policies aren't necessarily at odds with capitalism. You're going down the dumdum American route (lie/propaganda over there) of suggesting that "socialism" is synonymous with "communism".

The word socialism is about as much use as the term "working class"