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[user104658]

The word socialism is about as much use as the term "working class"

Then both are as much use as any other common political parlance :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Then both are as much use as any other common political parlance :shrug:

yes Streeting tied himself in a knot trying to say who it referred to on LBC

[arista]

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?


No Deals
No

[James]

Do Labour have anything about petrol and diesel cars in their manifesto?

No Deals
No

They are bringing the ban on new sales of petrol, diesel and hybrid cars back to 2030, instead of 2035.

[user104658]

They are bringing the ban on new sales of petrol, diesel and hybrid cars back to 2030, instead of 2035.

It's all a bit insane, primarily because we don't have the infrastructure available for charging tens of millions of electric cars every day :think:. Really if this is happening, it has to go hand-in-hand with the nationalisation of energy, and ensuring that vehicle charging is both available and affordable.

[bots]

It's all a bit insane, primarily because we don't have the infrastructure available for charging tens of millions of electric cars every day :think:. Really if this is happening, it has to go hand-in-hand with the nationalisation of energy, and ensuring that vehicle charging is both available and affordable.

it just means that the 2nd hand car market will continue to rocket. Most cars these days can stay on the road for a long, long time. People just wont buy electric vehicles

[bots]

We all know that labour are fudging their figures, so they are going to have to come up with a new tax or blame the tories for us being in a bigger economic mess than they thought .... etc etc. One way or another, taxes will go up.

If they come up with a new tax they can say .... we didn't put up income tax, vat NI etc, although they would be breaking the spirit of their commitment, and I don't think that would sit well with the public

Apparently there are 18B of cuts due to come in that labour signed up to, part of that is associated with reducing prison staffing, so if that holds (as labour have committed to) who is going to staff the new prisons they will be building :laugh:

These are issues that the tory party should be highlighting, i'm sure they can find at least 10 more that they could use to make labour uncomfortable, so the big question is, why aren't they doing it? It should be front page news

[user104658]

it just means that the 2nd hand car market will continue to rocket. Most cars these days can stay on the road for a long, long time. People just wont buy electric vehicles

They can if you take care of them, there's a LOT more that can go wrong with recent cars that couldn't with older cars. Most people don't really take care of their cars because they expect to have a new one every 5 to 10 years. Maybe that'll change.

[bots]

The Tories are quoting dates in 2029 for one of their tax cuts to kick in .. that’s fanciful at best and complete nonsense imho


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tax thresholds aren't going to be changed, so as people get their inflation busting pay rises, they are going to pay more tax. That's all baked into the system. The government can be a lot more creative than simply raising tax % to haul in more taxes. It's all smoke and mirrors

[bots]

Interesting .....

Both labour and the tories are 3-4 points down on the latest polls

A YouGov survey of more than 2,200 adults, external, conducted between 12 and 13 June, puts Reform at one point ahead of the Tories for the first time on 19%.

However, this is just one poll. We have had four others published in the last 24 hours, none of which have had Reform ahead and not even all of which had the party gaining ground.

On average, Reform is still four or five points behind the Conservatives.

But this is still bad news for the Tories.

[user104658]

Interesting .....

Both labour and the tories are 3-4 points down on the latest polls

A YouGov survey of more than 2,200 adults, external, conducted between 12 and 13 June, puts Reform at one point ahead of the Tories for the first time on 19%.

However, this is just one poll. We have had four others published in the last 24 hours, none of which have had Reform ahead and not even all of which had the party gaining ground.

On average, Reform is still four or five points behind the Conservatives.

But this is still bad news for the Tories.

Only for the Tories who didn't take off their Tory hat and slap on their Reform cap yet.

[arista]

They are bringing the ban on new sales of petrol, diesel and hybrid cars back to 2030, instead of 2035.


Yes James
worth buying a Hybrid before that date


Then Driving is safe from
lack of charge

[arista]

Any not registered

You must register to vote by Tuesday 18/6/24

Ch5HDnews Live.

[The Slim Reaper]

Big brained labour supporters will tell you this is a good thing, actually.

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[The Slim Reaper]

Last week Kier Starmer said "I am a Socialist"

this week on X


Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

Wealth creation is my number one priority.

Socialism isn't the belief that no one should be rich, it's the belief that no one should be poor..

Starmer isn't a socialist, he's a C

[The Slim Reaper]

This is who the labour party is these days.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling

Looking forward to @UKLabour calling out the threatening behaviour of those
who prevent one of their own female MPs from campaigning, all because she
believes that biological sex is real and important.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQC-0CQWAAADejh?format=jpg&name=small

[Mystic Mock]

Dawn is down with the kids. You get me?


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:joker:

Have you seen The Acolyte's Witches chanting scene?

I've been trying to find the clip again, but no such luck so far.

Anyway, the scene would make this video look cool in comparison.

[Gusto Brunt]

Watching Starmer last night on the BBC, he hardly ever answers questions. He thinks we don't see it that he is avoiding the question but most of us do.

That said I understand they're only questions but what he does July 5th onward is what matters.

[arista]

Watching Starmer last night on the BBC, he hardly ever answers questions. He thinks we don't see it that he is avoiding the question but most of us do.

That said I understand they're only questions but what he does July 5th onward is what matters.



Yes I was not happy with Nick
giving Strarmer an easy ride.

Nothing New - Joey stated on the thread
he was right.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11465367#post11465367

[arista]

J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling

Looking forward to @UKLabour calling out the threatening behaviour of those
who prevent one of their own female MPs from campaigning, all because she
believes that biological sex is real and important.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQC-0CQWAAADejh?format=jpg&name=small



Yes
Rosie the one sensible Lady MP
in Labour

[bots]

Stamer just needs to get through the next 2 weeks and a few days and he is in Number 10. He doesn't need to chase after votes, he has them. He just needs to keep a calm head and not make any huge mistakes

[Ammi]

Stamer just needs to get through the next 2 weeks and a few days and he is in Number 10. He doesn't need to chase after votes, he has them. He just needs to keep a calm head and not make any huge mistakes

…and that in itself is a huge worry and problem, I think and doesn’t inspire any confidence for a better government to have a leader who ‘didn’t have to try’…we want to see someone striving and fighting to lead as one first step…/…it’s not the only thing by far but it’s something we can’t attribute to him…I agree with much of what Slim says in that it’ll still be more or less a Conservative government under the sub heading of Labour …

[Mystic Mock]

…and that in itself is a huge worry and problem, I think and doesn’t inspire any confidence for a better government to have a leader who ‘didn’t have to try’…we want to see someone striving and fighting to lead as one first step…/…it’s not the only thing by far but it’s something we can’t attribute to him…I agree with much of what Slim says in that it’ll still be more or less a Conservative government under the sub heading of Labour …

It's what the Media wants unfortunately.

Anyone different to that just ends up getting targeted.

[bots]

…and that in itself is a huge worry and problem, I think and doesn’t inspire any confidence for a better government to have a leader who ‘didn’t have to try’…we want to see someone striving and fighting to lead as one first step…/…it’s not the only thing by far but it’s something we can’t attribute to him…I agree with much of what Slim says in that it’ll still be more or less a Conservative government under the sub heading of Labour …

It's how it generally always is. The tory party have been in power too long, people need a change. We are so used to just getting on with things, that we forget just how bad it's been under the tories these last 5 years :laugh:

Anytime anyone tries to come in promising big changes, they are rarely successful. The conditions are just not there to do anything radical at the moment and its not what people want.

Depending on the scale of the win/failure, i can see a huge shift coming that will come into play in 5 years time. That's when the real battle will be fought. It will all be about big shifts in political alignment. That's when the radical policies will come into play

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes I was not happy with Nick
giving Strarmer an easy ride.

Nothing New - Joey stated on the thread
he was right.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11465367#post11465367


Nevertheless, it was more interesting than the stage debates ITV/SKY, etc...

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
reported today
many blacks are not registered to vote.

A Group of Singers is trying to get more to vote

[Mystic Mock]

Ch4HDnews
reported today
many blacks are not registered to vote.

A Group of Singers is trying to get more to vote

Why does anyone care?:laugh:

If black people don't want to vote in general, then that's their choice.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Labour needs to hire better Security for their Bus.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Labour needs to hire better Security for their Bus.

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punk, badly informed and infected with a woke mind virus, kids

[arista]

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[arista]

The Online Paper :
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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQGcURWXoAAlj5l?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

The Labour Party
should supply Rosie Duffield with 2 Security Guards

She has had more Death Threats.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Labour Party
should supply Rosie Duffield with 2 Security Guards

She has had more Death Threats.

nasty fake Starmer threw her under a bus in case he upset the evil trans mob

the man is a spineless milk-sop

[bots]

This is not all as simple as it looks. People like me are completely fed up with politics, so while they may have expressed a preference in a poll, they may not bother voting. If the tory voters are more energised, they may still pull it off, because lets be honest, no-one really likes Starmer across the entire political landscape :laugh:

[joeysteele]

This is not all as simple as it looks. People like me are completely fed up with politics, so while they may have expressed a preference in a poll, they may not bother voting. If the tory voters are more energised, they may still pull it off, because lets be honest, no-one really likes Starmer across the entire political landscape :laugh:

I actually can agree with some of that.
I said a good while ago the Cons are good election winning machines.
I've never myself believed the gap in the polls as they are still, is a hard support level or even correct.

It still wouldn't be a great shock to me if it was a tiny majority for either Party.
Or even a hung parliament.
It's not impossible.
I know from 2015 from what we as canvassers were told, that once in the polling booth, that past few seconds change of mind is a major element in voting.

However, this is the first election out of the 4 I've canvassed in where the reception I and my team and the other teams are getting for Labour is much friendlier and welcoming.
For the vast majority of people we have talked to, the main thing that vast majority want is this Con government OUT.

There's no great love for Starmer, you are right but he's far preferred to Sunak.

Softer support of the Cons from the last election, who are changing to Labour is because they have no fear that Labour will be as bad as this lot now.
A lot of voters in 2019 weren't in the main voting for Johnson's Cons, they were voting against Corbyn.

Politics is consistent at being inconsistent and predictable only as to being unpredictable.

You make strong points in your post.
However in canvassing this time, the real dislike is to this current Con leadership and government.
That's the message I'm getting all the time and the desire to ensure this government is really gone this time.

I've never had so many cups of tea or coffee offered to me in electioneering before.:joker:
It's REALLY heartwarming.

Far better than before where Cons and UKIP/ Brexit hard and firm supporters said my legs should be cut off to stop me canvassing for Labour.
Or that all connected to Labour should all be piled into baths of acid.
Charming.

[bots]

i think a lot of it has to do with the Labour "safe pair of hands" message they are favouring. There really won't be much change, and is it a big incentive to vote if the message is, we can't do anything because we don't have any money :laugh:

The last election was all about brexit because people were so fed up about it, but stirring up enthusiasm to vote this time round is going to be really difficult

[Mystic Mock]

The Labour Party
should supply Rosie Duffield with 2 Security Guards

She has had more Death Threats.

Lovely to see that 2024 is carrying on being insane.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

The list of candidates standing in North West Essex:

Kemi Badenoch - Conservative
Issy White - Labour
Smita Rajesh - Liberal Democrats
Edward Gildea - Green

Reform UK - Removed


Erik Bonino - Independent
Andrew Green - Independent
Niko Omilana - Independent

[Reform UK candidate resigns over 'unacceptable' blog posts]


[Reform UK’s parliamentary candidate
in Kemi Badenoch’s constituency
has resigned after it emerged he
previously urged people to vote for the BNP.
Grant StClair-Armstrong, the party’s candidate
in North West Essex, told BBC News
he had “never supported the BNP” and had
been forced to stand down by the party.

“I would have let the people decide,” he said.

But a spokesman for Reform UK said
“Mr StClair-Armstrong has tendered his
resignation” after “the revelation of unacceptable
historic social media comments”.

In remarks first reported by the Times, external,
Mr StClair-Armstrong wrote on a website:
“I could weep now, every time I pick up
a British newspaper and read the latest about
the state of the UK.
No doubt, Enoch Powell would be doing
the same if he was alive.
My solution … vote BNP!”]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw880334dgyo

Yes good he is Removed

[Mystic Mock]

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Coming from the party that paid £1.5 Billion to the DUP, even though the country was skint apparently.

[bots]

1.5 billion is peanuts compared to what labour will spend. As long as they leave the pensioners alone, i don't care :laugh:

[Ammi]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-76c64772-30b4-4436-a748-6d16ee053821.png

…Rishi speaking as if he’s left us with some money for anyone else to run riot with….you took it all with your crummy government, that’s the point…dear Rishi, dear Rishi…there’s a hole in the country where the Tories have been…

[Mystic Mock]

1.5 billion is peanuts compared to what labour will spend. As long as they leave the pensioners alone, i don't care :laugh:

It shows us that the Tories lied about how severe the countries financial situation was, when they were willing to save their own skin more than looking after the people of this country on a basic financial level.

Whatever flaws Labour will have under Starmer will also have to be tackled when the time comes, but for now we can't have another four or five years of what the Tories have brought to the table over the past 14 years.

[bots]

The tories should be out based on the contempt they showed for the public over the last 5 years, let alone anything else. However, politics just doesn't work that way anymore, i don't trust opinion polls at all. When 1 party is shown as so far ahead, it affects how many people go out and vote, this particularly applies to young folks. Labour should walk it, but i'm not sure they will

[bots]

It shows us that the Tories lied about how severe the countries financial situation was, when they were willing to save their own skin more than looking after the people of this country on a basic financial level.

Whatever flaws Labour will have under Starmer will also have to be tackled when the time comes, but for now we can't have another four or five years of what the Tories have brought to the table over the past 14 years.

that was in May's time, we have had 3 prime ministers since then :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

that was in May's time, we have had 3 prime ministers since then :laugh:

Most of the same people are still in the party from May's time.

[bots]

Most of the same people are still in the party from May's time.

that's simply not true

[arista]

Today
Reform UK makes their Contract with the General Public.

[MTVN]

The list of candidates standing in North West Essex:

Kemi Badenoch - Conservative
Issy White - Labour
Smita Rajesh - Liberal Democrats
Edward Gildea - Green

Reform UK - Removed


Erik Bonino - Independent
Andrew Green - Independent
Niko Omilana - Independent

[Reform UK candidate resigns over 'unacceptable' blog posts]


[Reform UK’s parliamentary candidate
in Kemi Badenoch’s constituency
has resigned after it emerged he
previously urged people to vote for the BNP.
Grant StClair-Armstrong, the party’s candidate
in North West Essex, told BBC News
he had “never supported the BNP” and had
been forced to stand down by the party.

“I would have let the people decide,” he said.

But a spokesman for Reform UK said
“Mr StClair-Armstrong has tendered his
resignation” after “the revelation of unacceptable
historic social media comments”.

In remarks first reported by the Times, external,
Mr StClair-Armstrong wrote on a website:
“I could weep now, every time I pick up
a British newspaper and read the latest about
the state of the UK.
No doubt, Enoch Powell would be doing
the same if he was alive.
My solution … vote BNP!”]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw880334dgyo

Yes good he is Removed

Great news for Kemi!

[Mystic Mock]

that's simply not true

A lot of the backbenchers are the same people.

[Mystic Mock]

I also want to add that I think that it's fair for May's time to be brought into this considering her time weren't that long ago.

I mean Tony Blair's time gets used against Labour as to why they're such a problematic party, so why can't May's time be used against the Tories? If May was the only problematic leader that they've had in their 14 years that is.

Boris is the only one that I'll excuse because of having to deal with Covid and Brexit, but the other Tory leaders have genuinely been appalling.

[arista]

The SNP leader is live
on SkyNewsHD Only


BBC not bothering with him

The BBC news are Live in Recar.

[arista]

Starmer Live and with Reeves

In Southampton Port

Taking questions from workers


SkyNewsHD
and the 2 other news ch's

[arista]

Starmer keeps using this line (Every Time)

"anything you want me to think about while
I am on my train journey back"

[arista]

BBC2HD Politics Live stated they are also on BBCnewsHD

But they are Not


As Starmer is Live in Southampton Port

[user104658]

…Rishi speaking as if he’s left us with some money for anyone else to run riot with….you took it all with your crummy government, that’s the point…dear Rishi, dear Rishi…there’s a hole in the country where the Tories have been…

"Labour will run riot with your money! They might spend it on daft things like healthcare staff and fixing potholes! They won't give any AT ALL to my Tory donor pals?? It's ridiculous!"

Gravy train is about to run dry for an awful lot of Tory-government-bolstered "businessmen".

[bots]

There will be a lot of people spitting into their tea when the tories form a coalition government with reform, the snp and the lib dems :laugh:

[user104658]

There will be a lot of people spitting into their tea when the tories form a coalition government with reform, the snp and the lib dems :laugh:

SNP wouldn't form a coalition with the Tories on their own, let alone one also featuring Reform. It would be the final nail an a coffin already being carved. Their seats at the next election would plummet to zero.

Add to that as a general principle - I doubt we'd ever see a coalition government that didn't feature the largest party in an election, unless the seats were VERY close. It's already a clown "democracy" but that would be one step too far in taking the blinkers off of people's eyes.

[arista]

Both 7AM on LBC Radio Live



Sir Keir Starmer will appear tomorrow, Tuesday, 18th June,

followed by Rishi Sunak on Wednesday, 19th June.


https://radiotoday.co.uk/2024/06/lbc-to-host-election-phone-ins-with-rishi-sunak-and-sir-keir-starmer/

[arista]

Ch5HDnews

Have Bradley Harris reporter
going round the UK coasts in an Ice Cream Van
You get a Free Lolly (worth £4 or £5)
once you pick a Colour.

One Lady picked a dark blue one for Reform UK

A Lad who goes in the sea picked LibDem as they want
stop the Sewer in the Sea,


He started in Wales

[arista]

Cocky Sunak
Now Live on a 3 News Ch's


In Cambridge

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1802744288310141278?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

And the election cycle continues to be completely normal

[smudgie]

There will be a lot of people spitting into their tea when the tories form a coalition government with reform, the snp and the lib dems :laugh:

Just no.:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1802744288310141278?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

And the election cycle continues to be completely normal

so one person sending a private message is a plot?

:laugh2:

paranoia

[Crimson Dynamo]

FAR RIGHT IN SINISTER NEW PLOT TO SOUND COMPLETELY REASONABLE

REVEALED: How the Far Right are manipulatively tricking people by suggesting
completely sane and sensible policies and then vilely and divisively trying to
implement those exact policies when people vote for them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQTj4scXIAAdWqQ?format=jpg&name=small

[Mystic Mock]

FAR RIGHT IN SINISTER NEW PLOT TO SOUND COMPLETELY REASONABLE

REVEALED: How the Far Right are manipulatively tricking people by suggesting
completely sane and sensible policies and then vilely and divisively trying to
implement those exact policies when people vote for them

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQTj4scXIAAdWqQ?format=jpg&name=small

The Far Right (like the Far Left) sprinkle bits of truth in with a lot of lies and insanity.

Imo if you can see through the one side doing this, then you have a good shot at seeing through the other side as well.

[Mystic Mock]

There will be a lot of people spitting into their tea when the tories form a coalition government with reform, the snp and the lib dems :laugh:

They won't be able to do that with Labour's margin of lead.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQSpdtlWQAAonAL?format=jpg&name=small

Yesterday Starmer and Reeves

[bots]

They won't be able to do that with Labour's margin of lead.

you put way too much faith in polls

[Mystic Mock]

you put way too much faith in polls

I'm just not seeing the momentum to stop Labour.

I could even see some Lib Dems and Green voters switching to Labour just to stop Tories and Reform.

[Zizu]

I'm just not seeing the momentum to stop Labour.

I could even see some Lib Dems and Green voters switching to Labour just to stop Tories and Reform.


I’d like to see the polls if they get shut of Sunak and get PennyM in place …


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[Zizu]

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[Gusto Brunt]

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He's really a crossdresser, that's all. I know because he still has his bits and isn't interested in becoming a 'woman'.

[bots]

Boris is back campaigning for the tories :laugh:

[arista]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240618/180e95b362c7eaebe14be5287f0185d3.jpg




Yes
he still wants to be an MP.

[user104658]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/edcc/live/bc9ccdd0-2cf4-11ef-90be-b75b34b0bbb2.png.webp

What an utterly grim headline and story. "Companies simply can't afford to pay their staff wages that they can actually live on even working full time". If that is genuinely the case then capitalism is plainly and simply completely broken.

I'm not a communist. I don't believe that every worker should be paid the exact same regardless of their skills and experience. I've worked hard(ish) to gain the knowledge and experience needed to achieve a good salary. I think all of that is right.

BUT

The baseline HAS TO BE that any adult working full time doing any job can afford to live comfortably - a decent roof over their head, bills paid, decent food on the table, some money left over for recreation - or there's something very wrong.

Also, 2x full time minimum wage should be enough for two adults to support themselves + children without needing top-ups and struggling to buy food and clothes.

We're not talking about unemployment here - we're talking families who are working full time. This is surely the absolute basics of what society is for.

[arista]

Labour can Put up many Taxes
including the council tax


[Keir Starmer would not rule out changes
to council tax rates in his plans for government,
as the Conservatives stepped up their demands
for Labour to rule out tax rises.]

https://www.morningstar.co.uk/uk/news/AN_1718707568434227900/starmer-will-not-write-future-budgets-amid-questions-over-tax-rises.aspx


[The UK Labour party leader said he
would not "write the budgets for the next five years",
when asked about changes to council tax.]

[bots]

changing the council tax doesn't raise significant revenue for government

[arista]

Sunak
Live on a Farm in Devon

David Cameron standing in the back area

on GBnewsHD

Sky left it

BBC now Left it

[user104658]

Sunak
Live on a Farm in Devon

David Cameron standing in the back area


Once the cameras are off they're both going to jump in Land Rovers and start mowing down loose cows.

"See, I told you it looked fun!" crows Cameron, hitting the accelerator.

"I always loved Mario Cart when I was a kid!!" toots Sunak in response.

[Alf]

Reform will put money back in your pocket.



1803078114345353658

[user104658]

Reform will put money back in your pocket.



1803078114345353658

£13 a month, we'll be rich :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

Reform having trouble with its potential MPs. :D

One said Hitler had the right ideas.:nono::shocked:

This whole Reform thing, what a joke. :joker:

[bots]

HQavMGOFAlo

[joeysteele]

I've always liked Rory.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4045a5b3-7203-48db-a1c0-ff2ef4d7e5d9.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f884c96c-4481-4310-9260-4b9ba9f3b04d.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-bb9566f5-fd03-4c5f-93fe-bcf842be65a5.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ec89719f-1238-49d3-8e22-cf3bdd7c39a1.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9c8e06fc-59f5-4dc3-9d77-de1c9ce9d3d1.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2667962f-713e-47f7-8ab3-f2fe6b27089a.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b997f942-78de-4439-91cf-4272db19fbf6.png

[Mystic Mock]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4045a5b3-7203-48db-a1c0-ff2ef4d7e5d9.jpeg

What planet is Jeremy **** on?

[arista]

Inflation has gone from 2.3%

to 2%

Of course, Prices are not changing

[bots]

Labour has suspended one of its candidates after reports he shared "pro-Russian" material online.

Andy Brown, who is standing in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East, also shared a post that appeared to downplay allegations of antisemitism against Labour, as first reported by the Press and Journal.

A Labour spokesperson said he had been suspended pending an investigation.

Weeks after the Salisbury poisonings Mr Brown shared an article on social media in April 2018 from the Russian state media outlet RT. It claimed the "toxin" used in the Salisbury poisonings was "never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states".

[Mystic Mock]

Labour has suspended one of its candidates after reports he shared "pro-Russian" material online.

Andy Brown, who is standing in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East, also shared a post that appeared to downplay allegations of antisemitism against Labour, as first reported by the Press and Journal.

A Labour spokesperson said he had been suspended pending an investigation.

Weeks after the Salisbury poisonings Mr Brown shared an article on social media in April 2018 from the Russian state media outlet RT. It claimed the "toxin" used in the Salisbury poisonings was "never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states".

What a lovely guy.

[Ammi]

Labour has suspended one of its candidates after reports he shared "pro-Russian" material online.

Andy Brown, who is standing in Aberdeenshire North and Moray East, also shared a post that appeared to downplay allegations of antisemitism against Labour, as first reported by the Press and Journal.

A Labour spokesperson said he had been suspended pending an investigation.

Weeks after the Salisbury poisonings Mr Brown shared an article on social media in April 2018 from the Russian state media outlet RT. It claimed the "toxin" used in the Salisbury poisonings was "never produced in Russia, but was in service in the US, UK, and other NATO states".

…I don’t understand…he shared something on social media in 2018…and now in 2024 he’s being suspended for that…

[bots]

…I don’t understand…he shared something on social media in 2018…and now in 2024 he’s being suspended for that…

yep. It's like BB. His social media was probably only checked when he became a candidate

[arista]

…I don’t understand…he shared something on social media in 2018…and now in 2024 he’s being suspended for that…

But Every Political Party is going the same way
or it could go Front Page

[Ammi]

yep. It's like BB. His social media was probably only checked when he became a candidate

….ahhh, well it’s good that it was checked …/…I probably misread that a bit and thought that he’d already been in office but was being suspended for something he said 6 years ago…it’s very early, I’m very tired…:laugh:…

[Ammi]

But Every Political Party is going the same way
or it could go Front Page

…yeah, yeah…I misunderstood a little, thank you sir…I’m not quite in the fast lane this morning…

[bots]

….ahhh, well it’s good that it was checked …/…I probably misread that a bit and thought that he’d already been in office but was being suspended for something he said 6 years ago…it’s very early, I’m very tired…:laugh:…

people are going through the reform party candidates social media with glee :laugh:

[Ammi]

people are going through the reform party candidates social media with glee :laugh:

…actually, I might quite like that job…I wonder if they’re hiring and what the salary package is like…

[arista]

PM Sunak
now live on LBC
taking angry callers


Sunak saying because of the Pandemic
the NHS Health delays are still with us.


Also, he stated
he will stay on as an MP.
If he does not win.

That's assuming he does not lose his seat?

[Ammi]

PM Sunak
now live on LBC
taking angry callers


Sunak saying because of the Pandemic
the NHS Health delays are still with us.


Also, he stated
he will stay on as an MP.
If he does not win.

That's assuming he does not lose his seat?


….hmmm, I wonder how often he visits a GP surgery and sees a more or less empty waiting room …(…because that’s a common scene in many surgeries…)…and yet, GP’s rarely see patients in person and even phone calls are booked several weeks in advance…there are huge NHS issues in that area but I can’t see how it would be pandemic related…

[arista]

[but I can’t see how it would be pandemic related… ]


Because as I have mentioned before
China's Covid-19 Stopped the wheels turning

And when it came back
it was staggered

[Ammi]

[but I can’t see how it would be pandemic related… ]


Because as I have mentioned before
China's Covid-19 Stopped the wheels turning

And when it came back
it was staggered

…yeah, you probably have mentioned it before, sir…but that doesn’t mean that I agree with you …I feel that the pandemic has given the ‘perfect opportunity’ to lay blame and hide behind ….

[arista]

Sunak has Concluded on LBC
he said it is getting better now?


But as he called the general election
tomorrow the banks can not change anything
during this time

[arista]

…yeah, you probably have mentioned it before, sir…but that doesn’t mean that I agree with you …I feel that the pandemic has given the ‘perfect opportunity’ to lay blame and hide behind ….


But many NHS Staff blame the Covid -19
as so many staff went home, during the Lockdowns
and some of them, did not return to work,


It is the reason for the mess we are in.

[Ammi]

But many NHS Staff blame the Covid -19
as so many staff went home, during the Lockdowns
and some of them, did not return to work,


It is the reason for the mess we are in.

…it isn’t the reason why many surgeries are empty of ‘face to face’ contact and actively avoid it…/…but just opt for handing out medication to patients that have sometimes never been met…that just makes no sense at all to link to the pandemic…if it was all or mostly pandemic related then there would have been some signs of ‘rebuilding’ over the last few years….but time is just seeing more and more determination of some areas of a health service, for many…the pandemic isn’t a reason, it’s an excuse…as the saying goes…

[arista]

Raynor was Live on LorraineHD itv


A short interview.

[Zizu]

Raynor was Live on LorraineHD itv


A short interview.


Shorter the better


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[Mystic Mock]

…yeah, you probably have mentioned it before, sir…but that doesn’t mean that I agree with you …I feel that the pandemic has given the ‘perfect opportunity’ to lay blame and hide behind ….

A lot of industries are using Covid as an excuse to justify bad practices.

And I agree with you that the Tories are one of them when it comes to their mishandling of the NHS.

[bots]

…it isn’t the reason why many surgeries are empty of ‘face to face’ contact and actively avoid it…/…but just opt for handing out medication to patients that have sometimes never been met…that just makes no sense at all to link to the pandemic…if it was all or mostly pandemic related then there would have been some signs of ‘rebuilding’ over the last few years….but time is just seeing more and more determination of some areas of a health service, for many…the pandemic isn’t a reason, it’s an excuse…as the saying goes…

GP surgeries were already under severe pressure prior to covid. Surgeries just couldn't recruit enough full time doctors. Indeed most still only work a couple of days a week. This leads to all sorts of issues not least of which is patient continuity. They also tended to use senior doctors as a reference point because they were forced to take on doctors with less and less experience.

That situation hasn't improved to my understanding, so not only is it next to impossible to get "your" doctor, the chances are that "your" doctor may not be knowledgeable in the ailment you have.

If you have an ailment that requires a consultant, it's then another lottery unless they have already identified that you have a critical illness

[Ammi]

GP surgeries were already under severe pressure prior to covid. Surgeries just couldn't recruit enough full time doctors. Indeed most still only work a couple of days a week. This leads to all sorts of issues not least of which is patient continuity. They also tended to use senior doctors as a reference point because they were forced to take on doctors with less and less experience.

That situation hasn't improved to my understanding, so not only is it next to impossible to get "your" doctor, the chances are that "your" doctor may not be knowledgeable in the ailment you have.

If you have an ailment that requires a consultant, it's then another lottery unless they have already identified that you have a critical illness


…I think one of the local surgery/GP areas that has suffered usually over time and well, is lost now…is GP home visits for those elderly or less mobile …although, even being able to get to their local surgery wouldn’t make those face to face appointments more available…it is an eyebrow raising thing of confusion though when you frequently attend a surgery reception only to see it either empty or virtually empty…not just once or occasionally…but every time, without exception…

…anyway, I’m a bit ‘anti’ this morning for sure because yesterday I had a GP phone call booked…?…it wasn’t something that I booked, it was something that the surgery requested regarding some test results…long story, short…after being told some quite upsetting and alarming stuff…it seems, the GP …(…who I have never met or had any contact with, ever…)…was literally reading off the wrong sheet and it wasn’t my details that he had in front of him…I was being given information based on another person…but that continued to be an error from them contacting me and requesting the phone call…and he hadn’t picked up on it…a by the by also is that he was 5 hours later than the scheduled time he gave me to give me this alarming false information….

[Ammi]

…I wish that was just a ‘me’ thing …but sadly in talking to many people in this area, those ‘story types’ are very commonplace…

[bots]

…I think one of the local surgery/GP areas that has suffered usually over time and well, is lost now…is GP home visits for those elderly or less mobile …although, even being able to get to their local surgery wouldn’t make those face to face appointments more available…it is an eyebrow raising thing of confusion though when you frequently attend a surgery reception only to see it either empty or virtually empty…not just once or occasionally…but every time, without exception…

…anyway, I’m a bit ‘anti’ this morning for sure because yesterday I had a GP phone call booked…?…it wasn’t something that I booked, it was something that the surgery requested regarding some test results…long story, short…after being told some quite upsetting and alarming stuff…it seems, the GP …(…who I have never met or had any contact with, ever…)…was literally reading off the wrong sheet and it wasn’t my details that he had in front of him…I was being given information based on another person…but that continued to be an error from them contacting me and requesting the phone call…and he hadn’t picked up on it…a by the by also is that he was 5 hours later than the scheduled time he gave me to give me this alarming false information….

i had a similar thing, but in reverse. I had booked a call to speak to a doctor and they never bothered to call me back :laugh:

I have a very low opinion of GP surgeries. It took me 3 months and a lot of shouting to get a doctor i actually felt was trustworthy. That's just not good enough

Hospital staff, i am full of praise for, but i think that has a lot to do with my ailment getting priority care

[Ammi]

i had a similar thing, but in reverse. I had booked a call to speak to a doctor and they never bothered to call me back :laugh:

I have a very low opinion of GP surgeries. It took me 3 months and a lot of shouting to get a doctor i actually felt was trustworthy. That's just not good enough

Hospital staff, i am full of praise for, but i think that has a lot to do with my ailment getting priority care

…yeah, I absolutely agree that it’s not all areas, I’ve had some amazing hospital care through serious times…but then, the staff mindset is completely different in that you very much always feel as though they’re talking to you personally/rather than just being ticked off a list or aiming for a quota, you know…

…but as I said, it’s the more elderly people that I really feel for because they just feel worthless and that’s not the life experience that they have had of GP’s and of their community surgery…

[smudgie]

.

I must be the only one that dreads looking at my messages.
The surgery can’t seem to get enough of me, messaging me or ringing me.
Blood tests, queries re different medication etc.
I haven’t been to the surgery since the first covid jabs, but I know if I ring up the surgery they are always very helpful.
I am prone to different infections, even though I am on antibiotics for life.
If I get in touch with the surgery a doctor will ring me back and send a link for pics to be sent so they can arrange different meds or let me know if they will be coming out to see me.
I get all and any jabs I need done at home, blood tests from home as well.
Weekly physio for over a year until I requested a break from it. Lovely lady came out last week to do my diabetic foot check.
I am not unaware that there are so many people out there that do have difficulty to see a doctor or to receive treatment for serious illnesses but our area seems to fair better than others.

[arista]

Big Billionare that backed Conservatives

Now Backs Starmer


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw00rgq24xvo

[Zizu]

Big Billionare that backed Conservatives

Now Backs Starmer


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw00rgq24xvo


A fool and his money are easily parted !


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[user104658]

i had a similar thing, but in reverse. I had booked a call to speak to a doctor and they never bothered to call me back :laugh:

I have a very low opinion of GP surgeries. It took me 3 months and a lot of shouting to get a doctor i actually felt was trustworthy. That's just not good enough

Hospital staff, i am full of praise for, but i think that has a lot to do with my ailment getting priority care

We have an excellent GP surgery and also are looking at houses currently - and genuinely, one of our major considerations when looking at houses is the worry of moving GP practices. Because others in the area are abysmal and ours is unusually good by any standard, let alone today's standards, in terms of contactability, appointment availability and staff expertise.

But that's really quite dystopian when you think about it - house-buying options being influenced by worrying about the ability to access half-decent primary healthcare. It should not be that way :umm2:.

[Ammi]

.

I must be the only one that dreads looking at my messages.
The surgery can’t seem to get enough of me, messaging me or ringing me.
Blood tests, queries re different medication etc.
I haven’t been to the surgery since the first covid jabs, but I know if I ring up the surgery they are always very helpful.
I am prone to different infections, even though I am on antibiotics for life.
If I get in touch with the surgery a doctor will ring me back and send a link for pics to be sent so they can arrange different meds or let me know if they will be coming out to see me.
I get all and any jabs I need done at home, blood tests from home as well.
Weekly physio for over a year until I requested a break from it. Lovely lady came out last week to do my diabetic foot check.
I am not unaware that there are so many people out there that do have difficulty to see a doctor or to receive treatment for serious illnesses but our area seems to fair better than others.


…and there are those who say that it’s the immigrants, coming over here/taking our healthcare……when it’s actually smudgie taking it all…:laugh:…I’m really very pleased that you’re being well cared for and that GP surgery procedures etc, work for some and you being one of those …:love:..there are a few small practises in this area that are very much more ‘for the patient’, it seems to be the smaller ones, the larger health centres aren’t so good, sadly…

[Ammi]

We have an excellent GP surgery and also are looking at houses currently - and genuinely, one of our major considerations when looking at houses is the worry of moving GP practices. Because others in the area are abysmal and ours is unusually good by any standard, let alone today's standards, in terms of contactability, appointment availability and staff expertise.

But that's really quite dystopian when you think about it - house-buying options being influenced by worrying about the ability to access half-decent primary healthcare. It should not be that way :umm2:.

….is it feasible/practical for you to travel back to your present surgery once you move…?…

[arista]

A fool and his money are easily parted !




John Caudwell can not back a Loser
it would make him look stupid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Caudwell

[arista]

George Galloway
Live on GBnewsHD

He is due to go on the BBC , and Sky

[smudgie]

…and there are those who say that it’s the immigrants, coming over here/taking our healthcare……when it’s actually smudgie taking it all…:laugh:…I’m really very pleased that you’re being well cared for and that GP surgery procedures etc, work for some and you being one of those …:love:..there are a few small practises in this area that are very much more ‘for the patient’, it seems to be the smaller ones, the larger health centres aren’t so good, sadly…

I know, I do think living in or near a city or large town must be a disadvantage re health.
Small practises are the way to go.

[Zizu]

John Caudwell can not back a Loser
it would make him look stupid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Caudwell


He’s constantly giving his money away to completely dishonest, incompetent imbeciles


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Absolute lying grifter

Shamefull

https://x.com/TheFreds/status/1803441779070456129?t=-eZwtGdMCNN3QaXZMi385A&s=19

[bots]

Absolute lying grifter

Shamefull

https://x.com/TheFreds/status/1803441779070456129?t=-eZwtGdMCNN3QaXZMi385A&s=19

it's a meaningless statement, because it will never happen.

It's like everything in the tory manifesto, people haven't even bothered reading it this time :laugh:

[arista]

Another New Poll

Labour : 516
Conservative: 53
LibDems : 50
Reform UK :1

[arista]

Boris Johnson
Snubs Sunak.

Even on WION HD Gravitas Part 1

[arista]

The Protection Officer to the PM
who made a bet on the General Election
has been arrested

[arista]

ITV1HD Peston : 10:45PM- 11:45PM

Has an interview with Starmer


Also Kate Forbes SNP

Lord Barwell and Jess Philips are on the panel.

[arista]

Portsmouth North

The Reform Fella
Ex Copper


Penny Mordaunt - Conservative
Mel Todd - Reform UK
Amanda Martin - Labour
Simon Dodd - LibDems
Duncan Robinson - Green

[MTVN]

Truth

1803456066203570365

[arista]

Labour Party Political Broadcast ITV1HD

Is Gary Neville Talking to Starmer
in the Lake District

Very Different

Good Idea, I guess.

Also on 7:25pm On BBC1HD

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b3af88dd-0b1d-4811-8506-5cc0a0c36d74.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a2953e43-21be-4911-8944-8d70b1e49e9d.jpeg

[Mystic Mock]

Absolute lying grifter

Shamefull

https://x.com/TheFreds/status/1803441779070456129?t=-eZwtGdMCNN3QaXZMi385A&s=19

I think that he is definitely lying about Islam embracing the LGBT community.

Most Religions don't embrace the LGBT community if we're being completely honest.

[The Slim Reaper]

1.5 billion is peanuts compared to what labour will spend. As long as they leave the pensioners alone, i don't care :laugh:

What exactly do you think labour are going to splash out on? Other than corporate tax welfare, and funding the privatisation of the NHS.

[bots]

I'm still not convinced by the polls. It's obviously highly likely/a certainty that labour will win the election, but the polling companies are not used to modelling a party with a big lead. As an example, they are now saying that Sunak's seat is at risk, where the reality is that a sitting PM has never lost their seat at the next election. The polls don't take account of unique factors associated with many seats. which is what makes elections interesting. There is always a level of uncertainty associated with the process in every seat in the country. This time round, the polling companies have looked at the polling figures and said .... that's a wipe out for the tories .... when the reality could be very different and the polling companies are just ignoring that possibility

It's interesting for sure, but i liken it to when the first result comes in and they project the entire election on that one result. It could be right, but it could also be a complete heap of crap :laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

I'm still not convinced by the polls. It's obviously highly likely/a certainty that labour will win the election, but the polling companies are not used to modelling a party with a big lead. As an example, they are now saying that Sunak's seat is at risk, where the reality is that a sitting PM has never lost their seat at the next election. The polls don't take account of unique factors associated with many seats. which is what makes elections interesting. There is always a level of uncertainty associated with the process in every seat in the country. This time round, the polling companies have looked at the polling figures and said .... that's a wipe out for the tories .... when the reality could be very different and the polling companies are just ignoring that possibility

It's interesting for sure, but i liken it to when the first result comes in and they project the entire election on that one result. It could be right, but it could also be a complete heap of crap :laugh:

I hope that it's closer than it looks, because an overwhelming majority for Starmer will leave him unchallenged by the opposition parties, which I don't like the sound of personally.

I hope that he wins, because we obviously can't have more years of the Tories (I have admittedly been saying this since the Miliband vs Cameron days,) this country really can't handle anymore of their incompetence.

But I am not blind to old or new Labour's flaws, and they do need to be kept in check by a more narrow majority.

[arista]

What exactly do you think labour are going to splash out on? Other than corporate tax welfare, and funding the privatisation of the NHS.


Sure Slim
Wes Streeting
is due to be carrying on,
where conservatives left it.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Official_portrait_of_Wes_Streeting_MP_crop_2.jpg/440px-Official_portrait_of_Wes_Streeting_MP_crop_2.jpg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-977a3ab1-0ac7-4814-928e-745eb8cdfb64.png

[arista]

They are predicting Sunak could lose his seat
that would be best.

Then he can Piss off to California

[Ammi]

They are predicting Sunak could lose his seat
that would be best.

Then he can Piss off to California


…:laugh:…yeah you tell him, Arista…and don’t let the door hit you in the way out, Rishi…Arista has your bags packed all ready to go…

[bots]

What exactly do you think labour are going to splash out on? Other than corporate tax welfare, and funding the privatisation of the NHS.

well, they have an economy to run obviously. So plenty to spend money on

[MTVN]

Bet the Tories just wish the election was today now, the longer things go on the worse it gets for them

I think they'd probably take 100 seats if you offered it to them now

[bots]

Bet the Tories just wish the election was today now, the longer things go on the worse it gets for them

I think they'd probably take 100 seats if you offered it to them now

the 2nd person being investigated for betting on the election date is married to the tory campaign director ...... obviously innocent :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

the 2nd person being investigated for betting on the election date is married to the tory campaign director ...... obviously innocent :laugh:

Tory candidate who allegedly bet on election date ‘married to party’s campaigns
director’

Laura Saunders, who is standing in Bristol North West, is reportedly being
investigated by the Gambling Commission

:facepalm:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2024/06/20/TELEMMGLPICT000382490049_17188702696840_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bq1AT3Q7Sc9uaffdHBes0nLkikPYR0xYwuEBLwP9UFqP g.jpeg?imwidth=600

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/20/laura-saunders-tory-candidate-investigated-election-bet-ton/

[Gusto Brunt]

I don't believe any of these insane polls.

[bots]

in 2 weeks, it will all be over :dance:

[bots]

I've just found out that my constituency has been redrawn and it has an even bigger % of tory voters now. One of Boris's former aides has been parachuted in as a candidate and the old MP shown the door, so it could be quite interesting around here :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

in 2 weeks, it will all be over :dance:

The longest two weeks in history. :D :shocked:

[Crimson Dynamo]

The fact that this is a story just shows you how far extreme left gender ideology has its talons into the UK

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQX5nJkXUAAovA2?format=png&name=900x900

[arista]

I don't believe any of these insane polls.


Sure,
but many of them
still say Labour will win

[bots]

2 weeks before the election, the tory campaign director has taken a leave of absence :joker:


Every day, it gets a bit worse :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

2 weeks before the election, the tory campaign director has taken a leave of absence :joker:


Every day, it gets a bit worse :laugh:

And there is more to come

[arista]

2 weeks before the election, the tory campaign director has taken a leave of absence :joker:


Every day, it gets a bit worse :laugh:


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd119p9een9t

Yes and now his Wife
a Candidate


Starmer says she should be removed

[bots]

And there is more to come

the day before the election it will be revealed that Sunak also placed a bet :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Mr Farage also said he was willing to place “the biggest bet in my life” that Reform would
win seats on July 4

:omgno:

not Nigel as well

[arista]

Mr Farage also said he was willing to place “the biggest bet in my life” that Reform would
win seats on July 4

:omgno:

not Nigel as well


One Poll said 5 Reform MP's

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/06/19/23/86341937-13548615-image-m-135_1718837302689.jpg


[Lura Saunders, who is standing in
Bristol North West, is the subject of an
inquiry by the Gambling Commission over
an alleged wager on Rishi Sunak going to the polls in July]

Starmer has stated Saunders Must Stand Down

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13550485/Tories-Laura-Saunders-probe-alleged-bet-election-date-Conservative.html

[arista]

The UK is £2 and a half Trillion in Debt.


Ch4HDnews

[Zizu]

The UK is £2 and a half Trillion in Debt.


Ch4HDnews


I’ll sort out the £2 ..


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[arista]

I’ll sort out the £2 ..





The Clever Executive of the Arts
Former Bank of England
did not believe Starmer's Growth ideas.


1803821235219964410

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-52eb0d91-7173-4929-89ac-feba0be5dd36.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a901dedd-2524-4099-8768-a5dd10889362.png

[arista]

Smug Former Conservative Minister Chris Skidmore
is Voting Labour.
He is Standing Down

Stick's his finger up against Sunak.


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3013fab8-9bab-4d41-852a-4bd924a07da2.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6c7f/live/7fcb5000-2f4e-11ef-90be-b75b34b0bbb2.jpg.webp

[MTVN]

You wonder why they didn't stop taking bets before it got so high. Bots could have made a few quid as this thread was made on the day most of the bets were

1803813057195376827

[user104658]

It's a form of insider trading effectively, it happens plenty (dog racing is rife with it for example). I also remember an incident when you could bet on the colour of the Queen's hat for a certain event, and it turned out one of the people involved in the Royal Fashion Department or whatever had leaked details of said hat to some friends and there had been a flurry of large bets.

They'll just end up limiting how much can be bet on these sorts of political events, or limiting the timeframe (up to 6 months in advance, something like that), or just halting betting on political events with "chosen" outcomes entirely. Betting gets tricky when you remove the element of "randomness". There's a reason there are generally heavy limits on things like the Oscars and other awards. People know (for a fact) who is going to get them, well in advance of the event.

[user104658]

Wait is that graph £5000 total, not 5000 bets? If so then it's chump change. £5000 isn't a lot of money in gambling terms.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Smug Former Conservative Minister Chris Skidmore
is Voting Labour.
He is Standing Down

Stick's his finger up against Sunak.


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3013fab8-9bab-4d41-852a-4bd924a07da2.png

what a pathetic dog whistle hit piece on Nigel. Typical of this failing woke far left sh1t paper

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQlGuHbWcAAmUcl?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

Mr Farage also said he was willing to place “the biggest bet in my life” that Reform would win seats

:joker: there are mouthbreathers out there who fully expect them to be the 2nd largest party. There are people who think they're going to win a majority. Some of them will probably declare it a massive conspiracy "because everyone was saying they was going to vote for them!!"

That's the state of political literacy in the UK and one of the very real reasons that democracy is often an absolute joke. Just a game of who can talk the most convincing sh*te :laugh:.

[The Slim Reaper]

1804122255376486739

[user104658]

More Tories jumping to Green than to Purple Nigel is fascinating.

[arista]

[Polling for Greens suggests party could
take two rural seats from Tories]

1.Waveney Valley
2. North Herefordshire


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jun/21/polling-for-greens-suggests-party-could-take-two-rural-seats-from-tories

[arista]

[Starmer says he would Not Let SNP hold
new independence referendum
or lift veto on gender recognition bill]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2024/jun/21/uk-general-election-live-updates-tories-labour-bets-gambling-rules-rishi-sunak

[Crimson Dynamo]

More Tories jumping to Green than to Purple Nigel is fascinating.

More like Lib dems moving to the far left nutjob greens

[The Slim Reaper]

Template 5.


More Tories jumping to Green than to Purple Nigel is fascinating.

Think it's a case of more tories staying home, although there should be some natural crossover between conservatism and green party nature preservation policies. The real issue is working out how many true conservatives actually exist these days, or how many are Johnson tories.

[user104658]

More like Lib dems moving to the far left nutjob greens

The maths doesn't really add up to that shift. And even if it's Tories simply not voting, that doesn't account for the full shift.

[arista]

Both Conservative Candidates Craig Williams and Laura Saunders

Had insider knowledge of their Money Bets

but Stupid Sunak
is leaving them in place/



Starmer would remove both
from his party

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage's Reform UK is now ahead of Rishi Sunak's Tories in bombshell new poll


EXCLUSIVE: Reform UK's support has increased to 20 per cent, up three per cent, after the party's manifesto launch this week.


Nigel Farage’s party would win six seats, the greens would claim two, while the Liberal Democrats will have 61 MPs.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1913961/Nigel-Farage-Reform-UK-poll-Conservatives-Rishi-Sunak

[arista]

That would be amazing LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Victory for Nigel with the BBC debate tonight

:dance:

[Crimson Dynamo]

latest Clacton poll

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQnfs4_W0AAoiB-?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

I cant bring myself to watch 40 minutes of gary neville interviewing kiers stammers or whatever his name is.

But some may want to, so here is the YouTube link.

https://youtu.be/d93CyN2G_M4?si=xzrAh01LFxezo4tJ

[Mystic Mock]

Smug Former Conservative Minister Chris Skidmore
is Voting Labour.
He is Standing Down

Stick's his finger up against Sunak.


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3013fab8-9bab-4d41-852a-4bd924a07da2.png

Farage can't seriously believe that Andrew Tate is a good role model for young men?

I do understand that young men (to be more precise, macho young men) are in need of an older male figure to look up to, but Andrew Tate isn't it, and if Farage genuinely thinks that Andrew Tate is a good role model then he is way more disturbed than I thought he was.

[Mystic Mock]

I cant bring myself to watch 40 minutes of gary neville interviewing kiers stammers or whatever his name is.

But some may want to, so here is the YouTube link.

https://youtu.be/d93CyN2G_M4?si=xzrAh01LFxezo4tJ

Gary Neville?:laugh:

I like Gary Neville, but wtf?:joker:

[bots]

I can see how weird people get voted in in America now .... just saying :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Farage can't seriously believe that Andrew Tate is a good role model for young men?

I do understand that young men (to be more precise, macho young men) are in need of an older male figure to look up to, but Andrew Tate isn't it, and if Farage genuinely thinks that Andrew Tate is a good role model then he is way more disturbed than I thought he was.

he didn't

its a far left Guardian hit job

the radical Marxist far left are terrified of Nigel


go read the actual interview

they are terrified

[Mystic Mock]

he didn't

its a far left Guardian hit job

the radical Marxist far left are terrified of Nigel


go read the actual interview

they are terrified

It wouldn't surprise me if The Guardian are doing a hit piece.

But I also wouldn't be surprised at Farage saying it either.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/05ce/live/4b1cd0b0-3019-11ef-a044-9d4367d5b599.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9e8c/live/0d024fc0-3010-11ef-a044-9d4367d5b599.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1121/live/90d3d860-300f-11ef-bdc5-41d7421c2adf.png.webp

[arista]

Standing in Sunaks Seat
some are saying Sunak, will lose his seat

Richmond & Northallerton


Tom Willson - Labour
Rishi Sunak - Conservative
Lee Martin Taylor - Reform UK
Daniel George Callaghan - LibDems
Kevin Foster - Green Party
Rio Goldhammer - Yorkshire Party
Louise Ann Dickens - Workers Party of Britain

And 4 Independents
that are not worthy of me writing their names

[Crimson Dynamo]

Labour Shadow Cabinet Minister Jon Ashworth bullied off the streets from canvassing.

These intimidation tactics are getting worse and more aggressive.

I wonder if any Labour politicians wonder just what on earth their party has done to our country?

https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1804471007362646376

[arista]

Yes LT
these Muslim thugs will bully all

[bots]

Labour Shadow Cabinet Minister Jon Ashworth bullied off the streets from canvassing.

These intimidation tactics are getting worse and more aggressive.

I wonder if any Labour politicians wonder just what on earth their party has done to our country?

https://x.com/darrengrimes_/status/1804471007362646376

it's tories that are currently in charge, not labour

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's tories that are currently in charge, not labour

It was Bliar who initiated this huge "multicultural" influx

[bots]

the tories have just had 5 years with a massive majority where they could do anything they wanted

[Crimson Dynamo]

the tories have just had 5 years with a massive majority where they could do anything they wanted

they did do what they wanted and that was allow thousands and thousands of illegals with NO documentation to bleed into the black market and let millions in legally via various loopholes!

[arista]

Well, over 40 % are not going to Vote?


Some Polesters are now claiming?
many are following the news of a Labour swing.

[arista]

I will Vote 7AM Thursday 4th of July
before work.

[joeysteele]

Well, over 40 % are not going to Vote?


Some Polesters are now claiming?
many are following the news of a Labour swing.

Well we haven't had an over 70% turnout since 1997 in elections.
It's not a good electoral system that has near or over a third not voting at all

In 2001 the turnout was just under 60%.
Not really much better in 2005 with around 62%

Even in Johnson's election it was only around 67%

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes LT
these Muslim thugs will bully all

He wasn't bullied by anyone, let alone Muslims. Answering questions on your record, as a current MP wanting to be re-elected, is the absolute minimum requirement.

[arista]

He wasn't bullied by anyone, let alone Muslims. Answering questions on your record, as a current MP wanting to be re-elected, is the absolute minimum requirement.


He was verbally bullied

[Liam-]

Politicians are all too happy taking tax payer money and living their lives subsidised by extra expenses, but they hate having to face their constituents and answer questions on their decisions and actions, if you can’t handle people approaching you in the street voicing their concerns about you, don’t get into politics, this crybaby nonsense is ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

He was verbally bullied

Yes and intimidated in a rude aggressive way that isn't what this great country is known for

Politeness and tolerance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Joanne isnt voting Labour


J.K. Rowling
@jk_rowling
·

We're constantly told this is about trans rights. It isn't. It's about women's
rights, and trans activist demands that those rights should be dismantled.
------------------------

Cathy Devine
cathydevine56

'JK Rowling said she would struggle to support the party because of its stance
on transgender rights.'
No she didn't. She said: 'Labour remains dismissive and often offensive of
women’s concerns about sex-based rights'.Womens rights. Not trans rights.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1804475602130403329/vDBkG-Zn?format=jpg&name=small
Starmer says he is proud of Labour record on women’s rights after JK Rowling
criticism
Author accused party of abandoning women who took issue with its
transgender rights policy

[The Slim Reaper]

He was verbally bullied

No he wasn't.

[Gusto Brunt]

I'm no big fan of Farage but it really is a joke how the media have twisted his comments about Putin, making out Farage thinks Putin is a hero and he respects him.

That's not what Farage said. He said he could see why Putin is using the invasion as an excuse to the Russian people, but Farage does not support Putin or his actions.

That's not what is being reported. I laughed as I saw Davey, Sunak and Starmer LIE and lie and lie about what Farage said. It's like them saying today is WEDNESDAY, June 22nd, 2024. With a straight face.

They're the disgrace. Not Farage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

another angry aggressive Muslim woman haranguing the politician in the street

https://x.com/Majstar7/status/1804177505617609049

It has to stop

[bots]

Eight Reform UK candidates have made a wide range of offensive remarks online about women in the past, the BBC can reveal.

The remarks include disparaging comments about the murdered MP Jo Cox, former Prime Minister Theresa May, and a black reality TV contestant.

The comments were posted between 2011 and 2023.

Reform UK and the candidates involved have all been approached for comment.

Earlier this week, the party said it planned to sue a company it hired to vet potential MPs.

Among the candidates whose comments the BBC has uncovered is Emmett Jenner, the candidate for Ynys Mon, who shared a post from Conservative Party Headquarters which read: “PM: I want girls who are growing up today to know that they can achieve anything they want.”

Mr Jenner commented on the post: “Like fertilising eggs & providing Y chromosomes.”

In response to a request for comment, Mr Jenner told the BBC: “That is/was a parody account and you can see it is taking the Michael out of the Conservatives.

"I wouldn't take anything on there at face value, it's all deliberately provocative windups meant to elicit embarrassing responses.”

[Zizu]

Our future ..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240622/8c6b3bf4da38374b0e2f6fdae8ae185b.jpg


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Our future ..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240622/8c6b3bf4da38374b0e2f6fdae8ae185b.jpg


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chilling

[Liam-]

Scared of people that don’t hate lgbt people? Bless

[Zizu]

Scared of people that don’t hate lgbt people? Bless


For my part it’s more what they look like to be honest .

Not exactly an inspirational ‘look’

As to them attending the event.. that means nothing.. you surely know how politics work ??


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Scared of people that don’t hate lgbt people? Bless

Im afraid Glen used the patronising micro-aggression "bless" already today in the hetro awesomeness thread

maybe you could try "touch grass"?

[Alf]

The reform Party is making lots of noise.

Don't be fooled by the mainstream. They're looking good to become the main opposition.

[Alf]

Say whatever you like, but Farage is the most popular politician in the country right now.

[MTVN]

The Reform vote is crumbling now thankfully and coming back to their senses by voting Conservative

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6e61b0f0-6d54-4b26-8714-4056ba36b642.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8ca66fc1-b1e1-4801-bc26-56ce7abd8cbb.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4bce912b-756d-45a1-9484-f8efa0e5538d.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-441366c2-b94e-48d0-932c-8c1c3c1defb6.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2b54c1de-fad3-4506-823b-b1341bff6dfd.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fbdd5ddb-3846-491c-92fa-4a960d1ac5df.png

[arista]

LibDems think they will take Greg Hands seat
(Ref: ITV1HD London Local News 18/6/24)

Chelsea & Fulham

Greg Hands - Conservative
Blaise Baquiche - LibDems
Ben Colman - Labour
Anthony Goodwin - Reform UK
Mona rocker - Green
Sabi Patwary - Workers Party
David Poilden- Heritage

[Ammi]

…I’ve completed my postal vote and I’ll put it in the return post today…