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arista
04-08-2024, 05:47 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/14/88139323-13707233-image-a-64_1722776527774.jpg


A few hours back.

Liam-
04-08-2024, 05:47 PM
People really need to stop basing all of their opinions on social media trolls spreading their propaganda, it just makes you look stupid

arista
04-08-2024, 05:49 PM
Rotherham Live on SkyNewsHD

They are throwing
fence thin wood bits

at the police.

Liam-
04-08-2024, 05:55 PM
https://twitter.com/stokeyyg2/status/1820139110646104107?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

But it’s not about race or racism at all

rusticgal
04-08-2024, 06:04 PM
So quite rightly so the thugs are getting named, shamed and dragged into court on Monday to be dealt with….

Have the two men who physically attacked the Police Officers at Manchester airport been treated the same :shrug:….anyone know?

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 06:04 PM
1820026583467376955?s=46&t=jGjsPOhSduCbgISdXHWlrQ

They’re so intelligent

arista
04-08-2024, 06:05 PM
Press and Cameras
now being attacked


SkyNewsHD Reporter can not be shown
there.

They informed us.

arista
04-08-2024, 06:06 PM
Another Police Officer
saved

Zizu
04-08-2024, 06:06 PM
So quite rightly so the thugs are getting named, shamed and dragged into court on Monday to be dealt with….

Have the two men who physically attacked the Police Officers at Manchester airport been treated the same :shrug:….anyone know?


I saw somewhere that they had all been let off but that may not be correct


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Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 06:07 PM
People really need to stop basing all of their opinions on social media trolls spreading their propaganda, it just makes you look stupid

they don't

stop making stuff up to suit your basic negative agenda

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 06:08 PM
So quite rightly so the thugs are getting named, shamed and dragged into court on Monday to be dealt with….

Have the two men who physically attacked the Police Officers at Manchester airport been treated the same :shrug:….anyone know?

no

have been charged with nothing as far as I can see

thesheriff443
04-08-2024, 06:08 PM
If things continue to escalate further however...I don't know what the police will do.

We know Starmer won't do anything productive. He's more bothered about going on holiday :bored:.

I’m sorry but you haven’t got a clue about the workings of government

Starmer is being constantly updated

Its police that keeps law and order not the government

Multiple agencies are monitoring what’s happening

If you actually look at what’s going on It’s just half hearted attempts at rioting

arista
04-08-2024, 06:08 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144279-13707233-image-a-21_1722791203323.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 06:09 PM
Press and Cameras
now being attacked


SkyNewsHD Reporter can not be shown
there.

They informed us.

sly news are one of the worst MSM Globalist fake news offenders

ignore them

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 06:10 PM
they don't

stop making stuff up to suit your basic negative agenda

Isn’t social media your go to source when you’re triggered about something?

arista
04-08-2024, 06:11 PM
sly news are one of the worst MSM Globalist fake news offenders

ignore them



At least SkyNewsHD
are staying with it.

arista
04-08-2024, 06:12 PM
10 Police officers Injured

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 06:14 PM
****ing absolute morons the lot of them. People actually align themselves with this way of thinking.

Parmy
04-08-2024, 06:23 PM
Very quiet on the news about Bolton and who's out in force there.

Zizu
04-08-2024, 06:25 PM
Very quiet on the news about Bolton and who's out in force there.


Its on XTwitter


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Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 06:25 PM
****ing absolute morons the lot of them. People actually align themselves with this way of thinking.

which way?

The violence has been largely teenagers

I don't think anyone on here thinks like some scally teenager

same under 18 idiots rioting for drug addict wife beater George Floyd in the USA

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 06:29 PM
Video emerges of a group of "migrant men" armed with sticks beating up a group
of men they suspect of being anti-mass-illegal immigration protesters


They are chanting:


“Allahu Akbar” for some reason?

The distressing video is here: https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1820160751757119876

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 06:32 PM
1820097139936031042?s=46&t=jGjsPOhSduCbgISdXHWlrQ

Here you go LT.

Far right thugs attempting to get into a hotel housing migrants. The same migrants who routinely trigger you.

A handful of teenagers perhaps but definitely more middle aged white racists

Liam-
04-08-2024, 06:40 PM
All those middle ages racist thugs grooming their kids into being hateful, racist people just like them, it’s truly shameful

Parmy
04-08-2024, 06:48 PM
Tamworth live...(I think)

https://www.youtube.com/live/89KSg6Xox-s?si=EjnvU03s48NUi5vD

Jordan.
04-08-2024, 07:01 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUJRv1GXoAInaU1?format=jpg&name=medium

joeysteele
04-08-2024, 07:02 PM
It's disgraceful that this Country's police force is having to deal with these mindless morons.

Maybe it's mostly the younger elements causing the greater damage but the older elements AREN'T stopping them.
That speaks volumes.

As sheriff said it's the police who keep law and order in the UK
The government has said it supports fully the actions the police will take.
The police still believe they can deal with this and if it reaches a point where they feel they can't.
They can suggest and ask for Armed forces assistance.

These mindless morons say this is for THEIR Country.
I doubt THEIR Country looking at their vile destructive actions here, would be a Country worth living in.
Where it's thought mob rule should be more the norm against any scenario the mob don't like.

Liam-
04-08-2024, 07:06 PM
Don’t let LT spread his terminally online troll rhetoric, it’s not majority young people causing damage and assaulting people

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:09 PM
I’m sorry but you haven’t got a clue about the workings of government

Starmer is being constantly updated

Its police that keeps law and order not the government

Multiple agencies are monitoring what’s happening

If you actually look at what’s going on It’s just half hearted attempts at rioting

So what about Starmer taking a holiday now of all times? .

I wouldn't call people walking the streets with machetes attacking shops etc as ' Half hearted'...but there we go .

Ninastar
04-08-2024, 07:10 PM
Honestly here for the press being attacked tbh. Scummy bastards

Liam-
04-08-2024, 07:11 PM
Honestly here for the press being attacked tbh. Scummy bastards

That’s ****ing wild

joeysteele
04-08-2024, 07:16 PM
Don’t let LT spread his terminally online troll rhetoric, it’s not majority young people causing damage and assaulting people

It's not I agree..
I said maybe, however it's clear to see it's a mix of most of the mindless idiots all involved in this destructive thuggery.

Personally, I'd make no distinction from the numbers causing the majority damage to all the rest out there with them.
All are criminals, all should face the heaviest punishments.
The same charges applied to every single one of them taking part.

How anyone can even think of supporting them in this rioting or trying to deflect blame from them on it ,never mind then doing so, is another major concern.
Because sharing their warped, twisted ugly views, is the same just about as taking part too.

No, you are right.
I should have worded that better in my previous post

Parmy
04-08-2024, 07:18 PM
Unconfirmed reports of muslim gangs attacking people with acid in Bolton.

Edd
04-08-2024, 07:18 PM
Honestly here for the press being attacked tbh. Scummy bastards

Have there done something to you then?

Zizu
04-08-2024, 07:23 PM
Unconfirmed reports of muslim gangs attacking people with acid in Bolton.


Hopefully not


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GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:24 PM
Unconfirmed reports of muslim gangs attacking people with acid in Bolton.

Unconfirmed reports doesn't help , especially when there's alot of lies being spread online.

Parmy
04-08-2024, 07:26 PM
BBC reports fairly on what started the trouble in bolton today.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cervv8rz8mzo

Zizu
04-08-2024, 07:26 PM
Bloody hell
I truly hope this is a fake photo or fake information

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240804/2518cf2753f7f9d47b32f1a39aa0be38.png


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Ninastar
04-08-2024, 07:26 PM
Have there done something to you then?

Yeh they took pics under my skirt when I was 17

thesheriff443
04-08-2024, 07:29 PM
So what about Starmer taking a holiday now of all times? .

I wouldn't call people walking the streets with machetes attacking shops etc as ' Half hearted'...but there we go .

This isn’t a new thing

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:31 PM
Bloody hell
I truly hope this is a fake photo or fake information

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240804/2518cf2753f7f9d47b32f1a39aa0be38.png


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WTH !

I hope this isn't real either ,but as mentioned before real or fake it just stirs up more hate & violence .

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:32 PM
This isn’t a new thing

Oh I know...but doesn't make it right though.

Ammi
04-08-2024, 07:33 PM
Bloody hell
I truly hope this is a fake photo or fake information

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240804/2518cf2753f7f9d47b32f1a39aa0be38.png


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…I’m not sure that’s a U.K. image…the car number plate in the backdrop isn’t a U.K. number plate…

Alf
04-08-2024, 07:33 PM
It's disgraceful that this Country's police force is having to deal with these mindless morons.

Maybe it's mostly the younger elements causing the greater damage but the older elements AREN'T stopping them.
That speaks volumes.

As sheriff said it's the police who keep law and order in the UK
The government has said it supports fully the actions the police will take.
The police still believe they can deal with this and if it reaches a point where they feel they can't.
They can suggest and ask for Armed forces assistance.

These mindless morons say this is for THEIR Country.
I doubt THEIR Country looking at their vile destructive actions here, would be a Country worth living in.
Where it's thought mob rule should be more the norm against any scenario the mob don't like.Most of the front line Police force agree with them, they witness the two tier policing first hand everyday. but they have to keep roofs over their heads and food in their families bellies. So are following the orders given by their superiors.

I also feel for the front line, it's not their fault, it's the tyrants above us that don't care for us or them.

Those tyrants are all sat back laughing and rubbing their hands, with a large brandy and fat cigar watching the destruction they have caused.

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:35 PM
…I’m not sure that’s a U.K. image…the car number plate in the backdrop isn’t a U.K. number plate…

You've got a very focused eye line Ammi ,I can't even see the number plate . But this is the problem with random images uploads to social media.

Zizu
04-08-2024, 07:35 PM
…I’m not sure that’s a U.K. image…the car number plate in the backdrop isn’t a U.K. number plate…


Nice work

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240804/c48080adb42cbe239a35fc07fd640f8f.jpg


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Liam-
04-08-2024, 07:36 PM
…I’m not sure that’s a U.K. image…the car number plate in the backdrop isn’t a U.K. number plate…

People are just trying to create excuses to justify their violence towards anybody that isn’t white, it’s disgusting

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:37 PM
Nice work

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240804/c48080adb42cbe239a35fc07fd640f8f.jpg


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I can't even see it properly lol .

Ammi miss Marple well done :) .

Alf
04-08-2024, 07:38 PM
Those front line Police officers are just as much working class scum to the elites as the protesters are.

You won't see them Knighted or invited to the wine and cheese orgies.

Zizu
04-08-2024, 07:39 PM
People are just trying to create excuses to justify their violence towards anybody that isn’t white, it’s disgusting


The image may well be fake but there are an awful lot of accounts on TwitterX of muslim gangs running around throwing acid on white folk


Again they maybe false but its spreading bad feeling like wildfire


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joeysteele
04-08-2024, 07:40 PM
…I’m not sure that’s a U.K. image…the car number plate in the backdrop isn’t a U.K. number plate…

Well spotted Ammi.
You should be involved in intelligence.

Zizu
04-08-2024, 07:40 PM
I can't even see it properly lol .

Ammi miss Marple well done :) .


Looks like PH-3391


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GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:40 PM
Well spotted Ammi.
You should be involved in intelligence.

She'd do a better job than most of them I bet :joker:

Liam-
04-08-2024, 07:41 PM
The image may well be fake but there are an awful lot of accounts on TwitterX of muslim gangs running around throwing acid on white folk


Again they maybe false but its spreading bad feeling like wildfire


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Well maybe those people spreading false narratives should stop then if it’s winding up the thick racist thugs even more than they already are

Parmy
04-08-2024, 07:41 PM
I spotted it as well but was busy trying to find out where the number plate came from before posting the truth about the photo.

DemRed
04-08-2024, 07:49 PM
The police have peaceful protestors kettled into tiny spaces and are just randomly running into the groups and dragging people out, trying to get arrest figures up. It's been peacefully. The police are trying to provoke a reaction so tomorrow's papers can be filled with so called right wing thugs being arrested. This blokes been live streaming the whole time and is kettled in with one group...just rewind the feed about 15 minutes from this time to see how disgusting it is.


Yeah, they only did that when the MSM turned up. They even arrested an independant journalist. Apparantly though, after MSM left, they let everyone go :shrug:

Alf
04-08-2024, 07:55 PM
She'd do a better job than most of them I bet :joker:She didn't spot it. That was spotted yesterday. I saw it on Twitter. I think even Tommy Robinson retweeted it. Check his re-tweet timeline if you like, If anyone thinks I'm making it up.

Parmy
04-08-2024, 07:56 PM
Rotherham riot up close (DJEMEDIA)

https://youtu.be/qfgko7fmmHo?si=kU9Oa7nisPGuHBBQ

Parmy
04-08-2024, 07:57 PM
Muslim man gives his honest opinion..

https://youtube.com/shorts/szpLxaubX74?si=IRjCl6XD4-1pa_2x

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 07:59 PM
She didn't spot it. That was spotted yesterday. I saw it on Twitter. I think even Tommy Robinson retweeted it. Check his re-tweet timeline if you like, If anyone thinks I'm making it up.

Tommy fact checking? .... doubt it .

DemRed
04-08-2024, 08:06 PM
The protest I witnessed was in London and all they did was make a lot of noise. Nobody was doing any damage and yet they were all kettled in and many randomly arrested.

Vanessa
04-08-2024, 08:08 PM
The protest I witnessed was in London and all they did was make a lot of noise. Nobody was doing any damage and yet they were all kettled in and many randomly arrested.
That doesn't sound too bad.

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:14 PM
Tommy fact checking? .... doubt it .Ironic you say that. Because Tommy fact-checking may just be what this all thing is about.

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:25 PM
While all his minions go to work :joker:

I’d ask if they’re embarrassed but they clearly don’t have brain cells. Mugs the lot of them.Is that the Daily Mail Glenn?

Is this to try to take the edge off the Prime Minister going on holiday in the middle of a national crisis?

Also, the Daily Mail are basically doxing him here and putting his family in danger. There's a nice lawsuit for him.

But what's the story here? "British man goes on holiday with his family during the Summer season"

Not much of an own really, is it?

arista
04-08-2024, 08:30 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/20/88146973-13707233-image-a-49_1722799040697.jpg
[A member of the community offers
snacks to police officers on the
front line in Middlesbrough]

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 08:32 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/20/88146973-13707233-image-a-49_1722799040697.jpg
[A member of the community offers
snacks to police officers on the
front line in Middlesbrough]

shopkeeper avoids taking out of date tat to the wheelie bin

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 08:38 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUJjzMJWMAAvbqP?format=jpg&name=small

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:40 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/20/88146973-13707233-image-a-49_1722799040697.jpg
[A member of the community offers
snacks to police officers on the
front line in Middlesbrough]The coppers are thinking "Where's our cup of tea to dunk them in?"

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 08:41 PM
Is that the Daily Mail Glenn?

Is this to try to take the edge off the Prime Minister going on holiday in the middle of a national crisis?

Also, the Daily Mail are basically doxing him here and putting his family in danger. There's a nice lawsuit for him.

But what's the story here? "British man goes on holiday with his family during the Summer season"

Not much of an own really, is it?

The prime minister isn’t going on holiday.

Liam-
04-08-2024, 08:43 PM
https://twitter.com/letsstopc9/status/1820166299097428002?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Parents teaching their kids to be racist twats and aggressive, racist men surrounding a brave woman for daring to call out their hatred, vile people

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 08:44 PM
UK Home Secretary announces up to £29.4 million of extra funding available this year to
offer emergency security to mosques.

“Mosques are to be offered greater protection with emergency security that can be rapidly
deployed.”

Jewish people are their places of worship will be thrown to the wolves said Marxist 2 Tier Starmer

YCNMIP

:skull:

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 08:45 PM
https://twitter.com/letsstopc9/status/1820166299097428002?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Parents teaching their kids to be racist twats and aggressive, racist men surrounding a brave woman for daring to call out their hatred, vile people

The same people scream that the pride flag is radicalising kids

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:46 PM
The prime minister isn’t going on holiday.And rightly so. He'll get time for a holiday. But right now isn't the time for the job he applied for and was awarded.

Tommy on the other hand is just doing what normal citizens do and have a holiday with the family during Summer.

He was on that family holiday before the murder of 3 young innocent girls at a dance class and the aftermath reaction to it.

There is no story here.

He has put out a film recently though, that the establishment doesn't want you to see. So be a good little obedsubject and don't watch it.

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 08:49 PM
And rightly so. He'll get time for a holiday. But right now isn't the time for the job he applied for and was awarded.

Tommy on the other hand is just doing what normal citizens do and have a holiday with the family during Summer.

He was on that family holiday before the murder of 3 young innocent girls at a dance class and the aftermath reaction to it.

There is no story here.

The racist thugs that worship the ground he walks on are the ones out throwing bricks at police and attacking hotels housing migrants and attacking mosques.

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 08:50 PM
Kick off in Rotherham big time
.

That's more than what they did in the Championship last season.

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:52 PM
The racist thugs that worship the ground he walks on are the ones out throwing bricks at police and attacking hotels housing migrants and attacking mosques.I added to my post before you replied.

I was warning you not to watch Tommy's latest film.

If you do give in to temptation to find out what it's all about. Then I will call you far-right. So don't watch it. That's an order.

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 08:52 PM
Tamworth live...(I think)

https://www.youtube.com/live/89KSg6Xox-s?si=EjnvU03s48NUi5vD

We unfortunately can get rough when we want to.

It is mostly a peaceful Town though, it's just when it does kick off it can get bad like this.

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 08:54 PM
I added to my post before you replied.

I was warning you not to watch Tommy's latest film.

If you do give in to temptation to find out what it's all about. Then I will call you far-right. So don't watch it. That's an order.

Oh I won’t.

You couldn’t pay me to watch it

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 08:56 PM
Unconfirmed reports of muslim gangs attacking people with acid in Bolton.

If true then they need to be locked for life.

Alf
04-08-2024, 08:59 PM
If true then they need to be locked for life.Jesus.

I think we're gonna need some livestream YouTube channels from inside the prisons.

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 09:00 PM
I can't even see it properly lol .

Ammi miss Marple well done :) .

It says PH-3391

I'm terrible with Cars though, so don't ask me what that means for the License plate.:laugh:

Alf
04-08-2024, 09:02 PM
Oh I won’t.

You couldn’t pay me to watch itWell done, You're a loyal subject.

Here are a few pounds for your family, for your loyalty to the regime.

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 09:11 PM
https://twitter.com/letsstopc9/status/1820166299097428002?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Parents teaching their kids to be racist twats and aggressive, racist men surrounding a brave woman for daring to call out their hatred, vile people

Tbh the woman could've got herself hurt.

These people aren't exactly sound of mind, so confronting them is dangerous imo, as the Police can testify.

Ninastar
04-08-2024, 09:17 PM
People are just trying to create excuses to justify their violence towards anybody that isn’t white, it’s disgusting

Tbf plenty of whites have been attacked today too

Mystic Mock
04-08-2024, 09:17 PM
UK Home Secretary announces up to £29.4 million of extra funding available this year to
offer emergency security to mosques.

“Mosques are to be offered greater protection with emergency security that can be rapidly
deployed.”

Jewish people are their places of worship will be thrown to the wolves said Marxist 2 Tier Starmer

YCNMIP

:skull:

Well I'm glad that before the people and before shops that help our Economy, Starmer has instead decided to offer extra funding to Mosques for protection.

Because after all a Religious building means more to people than a group of people being targeted at Hotels, just because they happen to be Migrants.

Starmer's really getting his A-game going here with great logic.

Zizu
04-08-2024, 09:19 PM
Interesting

h83u462cFaU


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Cherie
04-08-2024, 09:19 PM
No one is covering themselves in glory, the government should have invested in watercannons

Zizu
04-08-2024, 09:20 PM
No one is covering themselves in glory, the government should have invested in watercannons


Or dart guns


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Alf
04-08-2024, 09:23 PM
No one is covering themselves in glory, the government should have invested in watercannonsOr even listened to the people they're meant to serve, years ago.

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 09:25 PM
It says PH-3391

I'm terrible with Cars though, so don't ask me what that means for the License plate.:laugh:

Same... I don't know anything about cars or licence plates :laugh: .

Cherie
04-08-2024, 09:25 PM
Interesting

h83u462cFaU


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No idea what date this video is from but

Following the landmark joint communiqué between the Prime Ministers of Albania and the UK on tackling illegal migration, operational teams in the UK and Albania have intensified operational work to address illegal migration, particularly the small boat crossings in the English Channel.

The UK and Albanian authorities have been working together to make it more difficult for illegal migrants to arrive and stay in the UK. Since the communiqué was agreed, new figures show that over 1,000 Albanian nationals have been returned to Albania. This figure is a combination of failed asylum seekers, foreign national offenders and voluntary returns and covers the period from agreement of the joint communiqué on 13 December up to the first week in April.

UK and Albanian operational teams have set up a joint migration task force, which serves as the main gateway to coordinate specialised operational measures and actions to manage illegal migration of Albanian citizens to the UK.

These include reinforced checks on free movement criteria at all border crossing points across the country, increased verifications on Albanian citizens who are found to be illegally in the territory of the UK, and exchange of senior-level police officers in both countries.


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/milestone-reached-in-uk-albania-agreement-on-illegal-migration

Alf
04-08-2024, 09:26 PM
Tbf plenty of whites have been attacked today tooI don't think the government are too bothered with that to be honest. Maybe I'm wrong? Let's wait and see what they say.


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joeysteele
04-08-2024, 09:28 PM
No one is covering themselves in glory, the government should have invested in watercannons

I believe Cherie the law would need to be changed
Water cannons cannot be used in the UK I understand.
Certainly not London.
Although I think they can be used in N. Ireland.

To be fair to him here, Boris Johnson as Mayor of London purchased water cannons to the tune of hundreds of thousands of pounds
Then learned they couldn't be used, so they lay there for years doing nothing.
Money wasted.

Parmy
04-08-2024, 09:33 PM
I don't think the government are too bothered with that to be honest. Maybe I'm wrong? Let's wait and see what they say.


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Have the police ran away again.

Cherie
04-08-2024, 09:39 PM
Or even listened to the people they're meant to serve, years ago.

That is also true, too much money being made from housing illegals in hotels and all paid by the taxpayer

If they are going to be here for years because they dont seem to be able to process any why not give them a temporary right to work and send them on their way with a deposit for a flat and let them get on with making a living, 1 million job vacancies apparently????

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 09:43 PM
I don't think the government are too bothered with that to be honest. Maybe I'm wrong? Let's wait and see what they say.


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White British have been attacking Muslims all weekend

Alf
04-08-2024, 09:45 PM
White British have been attacking Muslims all weekendAn eye for an eye, eh?

GoldHeart
04-08-2024, 09:46 PM
White British have been attacking Muslims all weekend

I hope you agree that senseless hate and violence on all sides is wrong ?? .

arista
04-08-2024, 09:48 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4b1808de-5fe9-4bea-83e6-bc94b4344631.png

Alf
04-08-2024, 09:48 PM
White British have been attacking Muslims all weekendI agree they may have tried. But there isn't much evidence of succeding. Because they always had the front line Police as protection. From what I've seen.

arista
04-08-2024, 09:49 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-189294d7-3ad5-436d-91f9-6be6584cfc1d.png

Black Dagger
04-08-2024, 09:51 PM
I agree they may have tried. But there isn't much evidence of succeding. Because they always had the front line Police as protection. From what I've seen.

I mean they’ve tried burning people alive all day so maybe take a look there.

arista
04-08-2024, 09:53 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5ca21b44-3ffa-4124-a061-cb833ec68e65.png

Alf
04-08-2024, 09:53 PM
White British have been attacking Muslims all weekend

I mean they’ve tried burning people alive all day so maybe take a look there.They set some bins on fire, yes. But the Police were there to stop them. So like I said, tried. But to no success. Which is how it should be.

Cherie
04-08-2024, 09:54 PM
I hope you agree that senseless hate and violence on all sides is wrong ?? .

You would hope so....

arista
04-08-2024, 09:55 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5004d9af-3705-4544-9c92-e669372c4e20.png

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 09:56 PM
An eye for an eye, eh?

What? Just think we need to keep an eye on what’s actually happening instead of pushing one side that’s all. Parms been doing throughout the thread, Muslim this Muslims that.

I hope you agree that senseless hate and violence on all sides is wrong ?? .

Of course I do.

I agree they may have tried. But there isn't much evidence of succeding. Because they always had the front line Police as protection. From what I've seen.

Protection from the far right aggressive white people? Surely you agree it’s needed? Or should we let the racist thugs do what they please?

Black Dagger
04-08-2024, 09:57 PM
They set some bins on fire, yes. But the Police were there to stop them. So like I said, tried. But to no success. Which is how it should be.

There are literally videos of hotels on fire while people are gleefully cheering but yes ok it’s just a bin that’s been set ablaze…

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 09:58 PM
There are literally videos of hotels on fire while people are gleefully cheering but yes ok it’s just a bin that’s been set ablaze…

post one for reference

arista
04-08-2024, 10:00 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-7fc3b3f4-f8fc-48c2-b7ae-e68ad1ccb345.jpeg

Liam-
04-08-2024, 10:01 PM
Tbf plenty of whites have been attacked today too

Plenty of white people that have gone out to riot and looking for fights with black and brown people? Yeah I’m not surprised violent thugs are getting a taste of their own medicine

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:01 PM
What? Just think we need to keep an eye on what’s actually happening instead of pushing one side that’s all. Parms been doing throughout the thread, Muslim this Muslims that.



Of course I do.



Protection from the far right aggressive white people? Surely you agree it’s needed? Or should we let the racist thugs do what they please?Post 855 of this thread. I say, Police protection is how it should be. So to answer your question, yes, I agree.

arista
04-08-2024, 10:01 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e8ec06da-616b-44b2-90d0-7a6c1f4feb70.png

arista
04-08-2024, 10:02 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6b7faa67-935b-4471-a125-dfbb88e7256e.png

arista
04-08-2024, 10:03 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-350f6d97-0967-488d-b1c6-4e65d41fac3d.png

arista
04-08-2024, 10:04 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2e20fdd4-f7e6-4534-8513-9c4cf167a7d6.png

arista
04-08-2024, 10:07 PM
2nd Hotel being attacked

Tamworth

Holiday Inn with migrants inside

Fire started outside the Hotel

SkyNewsHD

Zizu
04-08-2024, 10:10 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-7fc3b3f4-f8fc-48c2-b7ae-e68ad1ccb345.jpeg


Let’s hope he has more success than he dod with SaVILE


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Liam-
04-08-2024, 10:11 PM
The politicians that fanned the flames of hatred against these people should be investigated for incitement, this is down to a continued vilification of minorities by the racist elites and con artists

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 10:15 PM
2nd Hotel being attacked

Tamworth

Holiday Inn with migrants inside

Fire started outside the Hotel

SkyNewsHD

Actually trying to burn asylum seekers to death. Like I said earlier. People are aligned with these people.

Should hang their heads in shame

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:16 PM
The politicians that fanned the flames of hatred against these people should be investigated for incitement, this is down to a continued vilification of minorities by the racist elites and con artistsWhich ones? The only ones that have had any power in our lifetimes are the Tories and Labour. They've been the only ones calling the shots. The people haven't had a voice for decades, if they ever did.

The people marched in their millions over the illegal war in Iraq. They made no difference.

arista
04-08-2024, 10:18 PM
Actually trying to burn asylum seekers to death. Like I said earlier. People are aligned with these people.

Should hang their heads in shame


Yes, sad days

Liam-
04-08-2024, 10:20 PM
https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1820200403440394412?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

These coked up psychos are actually filming themselves attempting to commit mass murder, lock every single one of these scumbags up

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:23 PM
https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1820200403440394412?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

These coked up psychos are actually filming themselves attempting to commit mass murder, lock every single one of these scumbags upYou think Keir Starmer isn't a coke head? In the words of Michael Corleone "Who's being naive now?"

Parmy
04-08-2024, 10:27 PM
Actually trying to burn asylum seekers to death. Like I said earlier. People are aligned with these people.

Should hang their heads in shame

The target was the police behind the window, not the immigrants.


What? Just think we need to keep an eye on what’s actually happening instead of pushing one side that’s all. Parms been doing throughout the thread, Muslim this Muslims that..

I have posted many many many live links showing the british youths rioting..so stop your incessant lying.

arista
04-08-2024, 10:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUIp0HeWAAAC2A1?format=jpg&name=small

GiRTh
04-08-2024, 10:39 PM
Its civil war

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:43 PM
Its civil warNot yet. But I think that may just well be the plan.

And you can call me all the conspiracy theorists you want, but in my opinion, war breaking out in the West will simply be about trying to stop Trump. That's the number one goal of the elites right now.

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 10:47 PM
Muslims start riot in stoke.

https://www.youtube.com/live/577Meon11A0?si=MEKDyBgCGa22gVGr

Muslims stabbing protestors in stoke.

Different coloured faces in bolton today..


Live link.

https://youtu.be/Htx4boAWpw0?si=alGT69x2nUP9qGpH

Mosques offered extra security by prime minister..

What about the nurseries prime minister?

Very quiet on the news about Bolton and who's out in force there.

Unconfirmed reports of muslim gangs attacking people with acid in Bolton.

The target was the police behind the window, not the immigrants.


What? Just think we need to keep an eye on what’s actually happening instead of pushing one side that’s all. Parms been doing throughout the thread, Muslim this Muslims that..

I have posted many many many live links showing the british youths rioting..so stop your incessant lying.


Muslim this and Muslim that

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:52 PM
If Trump wins, the house of cards comes crashing down.

Alf
04-08-2024, 10:53 PM
If he doesn't win, we're all fooked.

arista
04-08-2024, 10:55 PM
Bristol Fight

1819832688255344640

Crimson Dynamo
04-08-2024, 10:57 PM
Look at the MSM do their level best to blame and divert to white working class men as the problem
shame on them

shame

Glenn.
04-08-2024, 10:58 PM
Look at the MSM do their level best to blame and divert to white working class men as the problem
shame on them

shame

Bristol Fight

1819832688255344640

I think you need new glasses. I counted 5 WHITE men on ONE black man there.

Alf
04-08-2024, 11:03 PM
Look at the MSM do their level best to blame and divert to white working class men as the problem
shame on them

shameDid you see this one from the BBC?

Former detective chief superintendent of the Metropolitan Police was cut off because he went off the narrative.

They won't be ringing him up for an opinion again.


1820115742622114266

arista
04-08-2024, 11:41 PM
I think you need new glasses. I counted 5 WHITE men on ONE black man there.

Yes in brief.


Police then arrived

arista
04-08-2024, 11:44 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/20/88146947-13707233-image-a-50_1722799065334.jpg

Middlesbrough

the place they started attacking
all the press (Sky News/BBC/ ITV local)

arista
04-08-2024, 11:47 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144601-13707233-image-a-30_1722793170105.jpg

Yesterday Weymouth

arista
04-08-2024, 11:50 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144157-13707233-image-a-17_1722790995498.jpg
A car burns on Parliament Road after
a demonstration in Middlesbrough

arista
04-08-2024, 11:51 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144159-13707233-image-a-16_1722790991819.jpg

Bolton, Yesterday

Alf
04-08-2024, 11:57 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144601-13707233-image-a-30_1722793170105.jpg

Yesterday WeymouthI never even knew that Whoopie Goldberg was part of the far right.

You learn something new everyday.

arista
05-08-2024, 12:06 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/17/88143481-13707233-image-a-3_1722788834606.jpg
Police help a lady up,
who was knocked on her ass.

Yesterday, Middlesbrough

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 12:09 AM
Its civil war

We're living in the purge movies it seems

arista
05-08-2024, 12:10 AM
1820134789426643069

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 12:13 AM
1820134789426643069

Why would it ever make sense, we're dealing with a mindless mob :bored: .

arista
05-08-2024, 12:22 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144847-13707233-image-a-28_1722793132721.jpg
[Residential properties and businesses
attacked on a street in Middlesbrough]

Yesterday

arista
05-08-2024, 12:24 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144841-13707233-image-a-24_1722793111191.jpg
These Shutters
are not meant to open - Get a Refund Tesco


Middlesbrough, yesterday

arista
05-08-2024, 12:33 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144607-13707233-image-a-33_1722793324728.jpg
[Anti-immigration protesters hold Union Jacks
on Weymouth seafront.
A counter demo by Stand Up To Racism gathered at
the same location further down]

arista
05-08-2024, 12:54 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144183-13707233-image-a-34_1722793384362.jpg
Yesterday

[Counter-protesters shout at police officers
as they push against a cordon in Bolton]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13707233/Balaclava-clad-activists-swilling-beer-cans-begin-protest-outside-migrant-hotel-Rotherham-just-hours-thugs-tore-cities-apart-violent-riots-Keir-Starmer-slammed-going-holiday-Britain-burns.html

arista
05-08-2024, 01:09 AM
250 total arrests

now

Alf
05-08-2024, 01:42 AM
250 total arrests

nowHere is the main man they want to arrest.

And they will, because they know that will create more unrest, which is what they want.


1820270359519649805

Ninastar
05-08-2024, 02:07 AM
When it was BLM riots or the London riots, or any kind of riot that wasn’t (mainly) white people, the news always portrayed that there was nothing else that could be done because people were hurting and that was a good reason to cause chaos. That society needed to change and only rioting could do that blah blah blah. I remember police stations and locally owned businesses being set ablaze

This time the protests began with people who are upset about the insane things going on with immigration these days

And then of course, trashy idiots take advantage over the protests and just use any excuse to get violent

I know that not all of the BLM and London protestors were idiots who just wanted to loot and mob and set fire.

It’s the same with this situation but people just want to label it racist because the argument is on the political flip side

Not all of these people committing these crimes are ‘right wing’. I feel like we label anything that’s just a tiny bit not left as ‘right wing’ and that just takes away the seriousness of it all

Alf
05-08-2024, 02:13 AM
When it was BLM riots or the London riots, or any kind of riot that wasn’t (mainly) white people, the news always portrayed that there was nothing else that could be done because people were hurting and that was a good reason to cause chaos. That society needed to change and only rioting could do that blah blah blah. I remember police stations and locally owned businesses being set ablaze

This time the protests began with people who are upset about the insane things going on with immigration these days

And then of course, trashy idiots take advantage over the protests and just use any excuse to get violent

I know that not all of the BLM and London protestors were idiots who just wanted to loot and mob and set fire.

It’s the same with this situation but people just want to label it racist because the argument is on the political flip side

Not all of these people committing these crimes are ‘right wing’. I feel like we label anything that’s just a tiny bit not left as ‘right wing’ and that just takes away the seriousness of it allThe Prime Minister disagrees and has declared every one of them Right-wing thugs.

He had a chance tonight to take that back and put some calm on the situation. Instead he chose to throw more petrol on the fire and doubled down.

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 02:31 AM
Did you see this one from the BBC?

Former detective chief superintendent of the Metropolitan Police was cut off because he went off the narrative.

They won't be ringing him up for an opinion again.


1820115742622114266

The BBC did go a bit Russia Today in that clip didn't they.:laugh:

At least let the guy finish making his point before cutting him off.

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 02:37 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/04/18/88144607-13707233-image-a-33_1722793324728.jpg
[Anti-immigration protesters hold Union Jacks
on Weymouth seafront.
A counter demo by Stand Up To Racism gathered at
the same location further down]

The poor Union Jack already gets associated with racism enough as it is.

If these people really love this country, they wouldn't be having the Union Jack be used to represent such a violent cause.

Maru
05-08-2024, 03:12 AM
When it was BLM riots or the London riots, or any kind of riot that wasn’t (mainly) white people, the news always portrayed that there was nothing else that could be done because people were hurting and that was a good reason to cause chaos. That society needed to change and only rioting could do that blah blah blah. I remember police stations and locally owned businesses being set ablaze

This time the protests began with people who are upset about the insane things going on with immigration these days

And then of course, trashy idiots take advantage over the protests and just use any excuse to get violent

I know that not all of the BLM and London protestors were idiots who just wanted to loot and mob and set fire.

It’s the same with this situation but people just want to label it racist because the argument is on the political flip side

Not all of these people committing these crimes are ‘right wing’. I feel like we label anything that’s just a tiny bit not left as ‘right wing’ and that just takes away the seriousness of it all

Forgetting the left and right wing thought process for a moment, let's consider the real victims are business owners and vulnerable residences. Our governments won't step in to protect them and that says everything to me about what government really supports. In the past, more would be done fairly immediately but now there is plenty of sitting back and speculating to TV cameras instead of dealing with pressing matters actively and firmly. Did the govt suddenly lose the ability to investigate for itself and sort things out? Why is the media sorting it out?

Even if there is no immediate agenda, it is akin to pouring gasoline on a fire because it sends the message to normal folk the politically insane and basic thugs are running society. The longer they sit, the more longterm damage is done for the victims and that means longterm damages for the communities also. Many of those affected may never recover. Even more ironic is that this is why we see more people turning more towards extreme policies to fix things, it's because of their distrust of govt and its systems, which are reinforced by its inaction... and it didn't just start with riots. Riots are a late stage result of a weakened government.

This is one reason why in the US we do maintain a 2nd Amendment. Imagine you become the only person standing between you and your livelihood. That doesn't just mean a literal life. People need a means to survive and that could mean their job, their car, everything they have in those buildings and in their vehicles could be what keeps them sheltered and food on their plate. I feel that doesn't get emphasized enough and that ultimately plays a big role in how average people vote. When these events are on our televisions and we see overpaid idiots on either side contemplating the "good" side effects to watching lives get destroyed, it pushes vulnerable people closer to desperation. But then consider too we each have embedded a drive to survive, which is not evil. It's ultimately noble.

Some will assume money will suddenly come into the communities and make everything OK? I live in a disaster prone area and that money is not as widely available as it is made out to be. There are also other problems money can't solve. So it requires early preparation. But riots... how can anyone foresee when and how that happens and that the govt won't intervene? I don't think the PM intervening is wrong, but I do think they all wait too long and don't make it clear and obvious it won't be tolerated. So each time it happens, it leaves people feeling there are ulterior motives and special interests and thus they start wondering when they will be effected... it's unacceptable.

An example closer to home: The Secret Service was afraid of a somewhat sloped roof. That's supposed to be an agency with a gold standard for providing national security. Now think, this is the kind of thinking that found its way somehow into a govt organization charged with protecting its own interests. I don't want to even begin to imagine what they might find acceptable for the security of the average populace... that's how far we have slipped. So even removing ideology from the entire discussion, it's still a very harsh outlook.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 07:19 AM
The poor Union Jack already gets associated with racism enough as it is.

If these people really love this country, they wouldn't be having the Union Jack be used to represent such a violent cause.

Stopping the boats isn't violent

Anti-mass immigration isn't violent

Protesting about failed integration isn't violent

The violence by and large is being done by teenagers with no cause

?

Vanessa
05-08-2024, 07:22 AM
Stopping the boats isn't violent

Anti-mass immigration isn't violent

Protesting about failed integration isn't violent

The violence by and large is being done by teenagers with no cause

?

Yes.all these issues are being ignored.
I'm not opposed to immigration, but it has to be regulated. At the moment it's not.
Apparently they also have guns, not only knives.

joeysteele
05-08-2024, 07:55 AM
The violence against the Police by these total morons is despicable.
The looting and damage to businesses and even residential buildings too equally so

Who in their right mind would even try to excuse these mindless and dangerous idiots taking to the streets and rioting
If they want their Country back as they say.
Who'd want to be in a Countr where it's brainless, intolerant, prejudiced mob rule that rules supreme.

It's sickening to see these criminal morons both young and older BOTH responsible for criminal damage and assaulting the police.
I agree with Liam on that.
What's even more sickening are the young and older, some of them draped in Union Jacks and St George's colours
Massive disrespect to the National emblems of the Country.

These rioters are vile.
IF anyone REALLY should not be part of the UK and on our streets, then it's these despicable brainless but extremely dangerous morons taking part in these violent riots.

Social media too, should be ensuring support or defence of these destructive idiots is removed and dealt with too.
There's NO defence for these riots, it's purely violent and life endangering CRIME.
Brainless criminals are all that they ALL are who join in with it.
On the streets or from their armchairs trying to excuse any of it.

Vanessa
05-08-2024, 08:01 AM
The violence against the Police by these total morons is despicable.
The looting and damage to businesses and even residential buildings too equally so

Who in their right mind would even try to excuse these mindless and dangerous idiots taking to the streets and rioting
If they want their Country back as they say.
Who'd want to be in a Countr where it's brainless, intolerant, prejudiced mob rule that rules supreme.

It's sickening to see these criminal morons both young and older BOTH responsible for criminal damage and assaulting the police.
I agree with Liam on that.
What's even more sickening are the young and older, some of them draped in Union Jacks and St George's colours
Massive disrespect to the National emblems of the Country.

These rioters are vile.
IF anyone REALLY should not be part of the UK and on our streets, then it's these despicable brainless but extremely dangerous morons taking part in these violent riots.

Social media too, should be ensuring support or defence of these destructive idiots is removed and dealt with too.
There's NO defence for these riots, it's purely violent and life endangering CRIME.
Brainless criminals are all that they ALL are who join in with it.
On the streets or from their armchairs trying to excuse any of it.
Both rioters and the people carrying machetes should be protected. I can't believe police is allowing them to go round with weapons. Shouldn't be allowed

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:03 AM
Stopping the boats isn't violent

Anti-mass immigration isn't violent

Protesting about failed integration isn't violent

The violence by and large is being done by teenagers with no cause

?

Zero evidence whatsoever that the violence and destruction is "mainly" being caused by teenagers, other than you looking at photos of the news and saying "looks like just teenagers to me". Zero.

Are a lot of youths and teens involved? Yes, because they're bored and less likely to understand the potential consequences/don't care (they don't have jobs or homes to lose).

But they're teenagers and kids following the lead of adults. There are plenty of clearly adult skinheads and angry pink faces scattered around those photos -- and even more online (happy to encourage others to "protest" , safe at home with a cup of hot chocolate and Tommy Robinson's YouTube on the big telly).

To say it's just kids with no input from supposed adults is a pathetic and disingenuous lie.

Parmy
05-08-2024, 08:09 AM
Skinheads!!

Is that what we call bald people these days.

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:10 AM
Skinheads!!

Is that what we call bald people these days.

Don't act like you've never heard the term before or don't know what it means and implies Parmy; you're not dumb and know it doesn't mean "random bald men".

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:11 AM
The skinheads in 2024 often in fact have a full head of hair. Guess who I'm thinking of. He's on YouTube.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 08:13 AM
Skinheads!!

Is that what we call bald people these days.

He is living in a daily mail mid 80s utopia

National Front skinheads in bovver boots

:joker:

Living each day outside the law
Trying not to do what we did before
Country slag with the Bow Bell voice
So close to the city we ain't got much choice

Council estates or tower blocks
Wherever you live you get the knocks
But the people round here they are so nice
Stop being naughty take our advice

Hersham boys, Hersham boys
Lace up boots and corduroys
Hersham boys, Hersham boys
They call us the Cockney cowboys

Parmy
05-08-2024, 08:15 AM
Don't act like you've never heard the term before or don't know what it means and implies Parmy; you're not dumb and know it doesn't mean "random bald men".

Oh I've heard the term, but you're using it to build an online narrative, the same dangerous thing we are told to ignore from the far right bloggers.

Parmy
05-08-2024, 08:17 AM
Most jew hating 70s and 80s skinheads will be left wingers today.

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 08:26 AM
Whatever politic views ,whether you're left wing or right wing.... inciting violence and justifying weapons ,and destroying businesses & shops is despicable behaviour.

thesheriff443
05-08-2024, 08:28 AM
It’s simple violence and and criminal damage will not be rewarded
The problem is we have a vast majority of people of all ages in this country that are simply too stupid to grasp the fact that violent disorder and destruction will not and never will give them a voice that intelligent people will listen to.

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:31 AM
It’s simple violence and and criminal damage will not be rewarded
The problem is we have a vast majority of people of all ages in this country that are simply too stupid to grasp the fact that violent disorder and destruction will not and never will give them a voice that intelligent people will listen to.

I agree sheriff and that it would be a reward is exactly why - even if they end up saying things that "need to be listened to", no government can safely make a change in the aftermath of violence, because it would send a message that "violence works" as a way to get what you want.

It's a larger-scale version of the reason authorities don't like to give in to kidnappers or threats of terrorism.

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 08:34 AM
Most jew hating 70s and 80s skinheads will be left wingers today.

Why would skin heads who are antisemitic & full of hatred , suddenly be ' left wing' ? that doesn't make much sense .... unless they've done a complete 180 and deeply regret their behaviour & actions.

If they still hold those views , they'll either be against any type of democracy & government...or they'll be a big Reform party supporter.

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:38 AM
He is living in a daily mail mid 80s utopia

National Front skinheads in bovver boots

:joker:

Living each day outside the law
Trying not to do what we did before
Country slag with the Bow Bell voice
So close to the city we ain't got much choice

Council estates or tower blocks
Wherever you live you get the knocks
But the people round here they are so nice
Stop being naughty take our advice

Hersham boys, Hersham boys
Lace up boots and corduroys
Hersham boys, Hersham boys
They call us the Cockney cowboys

You can see them in the pictures as clearly as you can see the young lads who are just out for a bit of carnage, and you know it. But by all means let's keep playing.

Parmy
05-08-2024, 08:41 AM
Well goldheart, all I've seen for months and months in the cities of manchester, leeds and london every weekend is anti semitic left wingers who are full of hatred protesting against the jewish state if Israel.

user104658
05-08-2024, 08:46 AM
Well goldheart, all I've seen for months and months in the cities of manchester, leeds and london every weekend is anti semitic left wingers who are full of hatred protesting against the jewish state if Israel.

And yet, while that does sometimes spill over into a bit of violence, it hasn't descended into the sort of destruction we've seen over the last few days. Which is strange, if it's all just teenagers looking for "any excuse". Seems that "any excuse" is more "the right excuse".

Cherie
05-08-2024, 08:47 AM
It’s simple violence and and criminal damage will not be rewarded
The problem is we have a vast majority of people of all ages in this country that are simply too stupid to grasp the fact that violent disorder and destruction will not and never will give them a voice that intelligent people will listen to.

The problem is people are not being listened to full stop. Labour labelling everyone who raises an issue as Far Right is fueling the fire, so far they have handled this very badly imo, its too easy to label every one as thick and stupid, there are alot of not so thick or not so stupid people who are concerned about getting a GP appointment, a dentist appointment, a hospital appointment, a school place for their child, and to live in safety, time for the government to step up and start addressing and letting the public know how many asylum applications are being processed,how many are granted asylum, how many people are returned, what the timeframe is on reducing the back log.... thats the job off the Home Office.... they are very hot on making sure people who come into the country legally pay their visa costs, not so hot in dealing with asylum application backlogs

Parmy
05-08-2024, 08:53 AM
And yet, while that does sometimes spill over into a bit of violence, it hasn't descended into the sort of destruction we've seen over the last few days. Which is strange, if it's all just teenagers looking for "any excuse". Seems that "any excuse" is more "the right excuse".

Their excuse came when a black youth youth stabbed 3 children to death.

That's what it eventually took, I mean it's not like its been the first incident of terror wrapped up a mental health this year...far from it infact.

thesheriff443
05-08-2024, 08:54 AM
The problem is people are not being listened to full stop. Labour labelling everyone who raises an issue as Far Right is fueling the fire, so far they have handled this very badly imo, its too easy to label every one as thick and stupid, there are alot of not so thick or not so stupid people who are concerned about getting a GP appointment, a dentist appointment, a hospital appointment, a school place for their child, and to live in safety, time for the government to step up and start addressing and letting the public know how many asylum applications are being processed,how many are granted asylum, how many people are returned, what the timeframe is on reducing the back log.... thats the job off the Home Office.... they are very hot on making sure people who come into the country legally pay their visa costs, not so hot in dealing with asylum application backlogs

Smashing and looting a shoe shop is not going to get you a go appointment is you can’t crasp that then I’m sorry you are stupid

Fighting the police will not do anything to stop knife crime

You can’t use we are not being listened to as an excuse to you violence and criminal damage

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 08:55 AM
I wonder when we will learn why axel muganwa rudakubana went on a mass murder of children spree?

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 08:59 AM
Well goldheart, all I've seen for months and months in the cities of manchester, leeds and london every weekend is anti semitic left wingers who are full of hatred protesting against the jewish state if Israel.

I assume you're talking about the pro Palestine marches/ protests

Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:00 AM
Stopping the boats isn't violent

Anti-mass immigration isn't violent

Protesting about failed integration isn't violent

The violence by and large is being done by teenagers with no cause

?


Wonder if the government could put a ‘bounty’ on the incoming boats somehow


Like an early warning system where the nation’s fishing fleet of boats get paid to be lookouts .

Then relay the information to land where an armed forces boat or customs boat goes out and escorts them back to the French coast ( then sink them on their beaches)


Simplez


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Cherie
05-08-2024, 09:00 AM
Smashing and looting a shoe shop is not going to get you a go appointment is you can’t crasp that then I’m sorry you are stupid

Fighting the police will not do anything to stop knife crime

You can’t use we are not being listened to as an excuse to you violence and criminal damage

and you haven't grasped what I am saying have you? the government not listening to ordinary, decent people for years has given the looters and rioters the opportunity for carnage, nowhere did I say fighting was the answer. Many of these people dont need a reason to fight they are anarchists, and opportunists


The government have come out and labelled anyone who raises an issue as Far Right, you were 'far right' yourself not so long ago and a massive Tory supporter before you have done an 180 degree turn

Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:02 AM
The skinheads in 2024 often in fact have a full head of hair. Guess who I'm thinking of. He's on YouTube.


I reckon he actually is a baldie


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James
05-08-2024, 09:04 AM
It’s simple violence and and criminal damage will not be rewarded
The problem is we have a vast majority of people of all ages in this country that are simply too stupid to grasp the fact that violent disorder and destruction will not and never will give them a voice that intelligent people will listen to.

I would agree apart from saying it is a majority of people. This is just an online fringe that has been brought into the real world.

Protests are often not representative of what the public at large thinks. We are talking about groups of a few hundred here. Even a million people on the streets would only be about 1-2% of the population of Britain.

What changes government policy is public opinion and ultimately voting in elections.

People have a right to protest peacefully without causing harm to others. They don't have a right to be listened to (and have their views enacted).

Parmy
05-08-2024, 09:04 AM
I wonder when we will learn why axel muganwa rudakubana went on a mass murder of children spree?

Whenever we do it wont be the truth.

We have had consecutive governments lying about aids and hepatitis infected blood they bought on the cheap from the us prison system, and the lies over iraq...so why on earth are they going to say he was already on watch lists all if a sudden!

It's the governments on both sides inability to be honest with is that was also a helping hand in all of this.

Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:04 AM
Whatever politic views ,whether you're left wing or right wing.... inciting violence and justifying weapons ,and destroying businesses & shops is despicable behaviour.


Are they targeting shops owned by immigrants non whites or are the lootings just random I wonder


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GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 09:07 AM
Smashing and looting a shoe shop is not going to get you a go appointment is you can’t crasp that then I’m sorry you are stupid

Fighting the police will not do anything to stop knife crime

You can’t use we are not being listened to as an excuse to you violence and criminal damage

I'm sure anyone with half a brain knows the looting and violence is dumb & pointless,and will solve nothing but cause more divide and hatred for their fellow man.


The chaos and carnage is like a disease spreading across the country, people still have a right to criticise different things including the government....it doesn't mean they support the mindless rioting :shrug: .

Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:07 AM
Smashing and looting a shoe shop is not going to get you a go appointment is you can’t crasp that then I’m sorry you are stupid

Fighting the police will not do anything to stop knife crime

You can’t use we are not being listened to as an excuse to you violence and criminal damage


If they are targeting hotels housing immigrants and looting businesses owned by what they see as immigrants/ non whites then that at least has an element of logic


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Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:08 AM
I wonder when we will learn why axel muganwa rudakubana went on a mass murder of children spree?


Do we know the circumstances surrounding him taking a knife into school and threatening people ?
Was it a British school ?

How was he punished ?

Does anyone know for sure ?


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Parmy
05-08-2024, 09:08 AM
I assume you're talking about the pro Palestine marches/ protests

Yes, the ones that have been so much hijacked by left wing organisations that the numbers of actual palastians attending them now has more than halfed.

Zizu
05-08-2024, 09:10 AM
I'm sure anyone with half a brain knows the looting and violence is dumb & pointless,and will solve nothing but cause more divide and hatred for their fellow man.


The chaos and carnage is like a disease spreading across the country, people still have a right to criticise different things including the government....it doesn't mean they support the mindless rioting :shrug: .


If they are looting/ wrecking businesses owned by non whites then that’s their way of saying “ you are not wanted in these parts”


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user104658
05-08-2024, 09:10 AM
The problem is people are not being listened to full stop. Labour labelling everyone who raises an issue as Far Right is fueling the fire, so far they have handled this very badly imo, its too easy to label every one as thick and stupid, there are alot of not so thick or not so stupid people who are concerned about getting a GP appointment, a dentist appointment, a hospital appointment, a school place for their child, and to live in safety

Yes but intelligent people don't use fists and bricks to make their point.

I largely agree overall and the way to stop this sort of carnage would be, in part, rewarding intelligent conversation and debate around these issues whilst condemning (and prosecuting) violence and destruction of property. I don't disagree that people aren't being listened to, I don't disagree that people with nuanced and important things to say on these issues are too scared to do so for fear of labelling. I watched the Tommy Robinson documentary Parmy posted with an open mind and a critical eye - I saw some massive and very valid issues presented for 2/3 of the run time - a genuinely decent documentary - and then the final 1/3 being a call-to-arms with increasingly extreme rhetoric. I might even have been convinced, if I didn't know what I was looking at.

And that's the whole point really.

Radicalisation and extremism isn't borne of lies it's borne of uncomfortable truths, real frustrations, real anxieties of large numbers of people, that are captured, exploited and pointed in a direction by a small number of more-shrewd people with an agenda.

Propaganda that is entirely false doesn't work.

That doesn't mean that the smattering of truth scattered through propaganda makes that propaganda legitimate.

But yes - I do accept that not allowing reasonable, intelligent discussion of real issues to take place and the silencing of academic debate has contributed vastly to the frustrations that allow civil unrest to take hold.

There's just not often much point trying to have a real discussion about that on here.

Because so few are ready, willing or able to admit that the presence of real problems doesn't mean that mindless thugs are not mindless thugs, and racists are not racist, etc, etc.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 09:11 AM
Whenever we do it wont be the truth.

We have had consecutive governments lying about aids and hepatitis infected blood they bought on the cheap from the us prison system, and the lies over iraq...so why on earth are they going to say he was already on watch lists all if a sudden!

It's the governments on both sides inability to be honest with is that was also a helping hand in all of this.

Plus years of jailing and demonising innocent people thru the Post Office Scandal

Livia
05-08-2024, 09:12 AM
The rioters have done nothing to help bring the real issue of unfettered and illegal immigration to a place where it can be discussed. In fact they've seriously harmed the cause. Now Starmer can call anyone with worries about the handover of our culture that they're right wing thugs.

user104658
05-08-2024, 09:14 AM
I would agree apart from saying it is a majority of people. This is just an online fringe that has been brought into the real world.


Yes and no James this is 2000's thinking; the rise of "quick social media" and especially algorithmic social media like TikTok means that, in the younger population, the "online fringe" is the vast majority of that population. Young boys especially are being flooded with this content, daily. Not just a "fringe" it's standard schoolyard conversation.

We're barely seeing the tip of the iceberg.

GoldHeart
05-08-2024, 09:17 AM
Yes, the ones that have been so much hijacked by left wing organisations that the numbers of actual palastians attending them now has more than halfed.

Well that's a whole other debate, I know there's LGBTQ+ groups supporting Palestine,which some people find puzzling. I assume that's one of the ' left wing organisations '... you're thinking of? .

user104658
05-08-2024, 09:19 AM
The rioters have done nothing to help bring the real issue of unfettered and illegal immigration to a place where it can be discussed. In fact they've seriously harmed the cause. Now Starmer can call anyone with worries about the handover of our culture that they're right wing thugs.

Starmer's handling of this has been abysmal and he isn't thick, which makes it even more worrying because it's likely to be somewhat deliberate.

But Sunak's response would have been near identical.

Farage (in some bizarro reality where Reform had gotten into power) would have been even worse and weaponised the unrest.

Truly, truly depressing that there was no GE outcome that would have resulted in a better response to this. Like I said yesterday, there's a horrible feeling of inevitability at this point. Feels like a train with no one at the controls... it's just going where it's going.

joeysteele
05-08-2024, 09:24 AM
Smashing and looting a shoe shop is not going to get you a go appointment is you can’t crasp that then I’m sorry you are stupid

Fighting the police will not do anything to stop knife crime

You can’t use we are not being listened to as an excuse to you violence and criminal damage

Absolutely.

I agree with you on the smashing,,looting part not going to help matters

Your next 2 paragraphs I agree 100%.

There's no excusing any of these brainless morons rioting or the unnecessary criminal damage and injury they're causing.

There shouldn't be ANY kind of trying to justify any of it or them.
This load of dangerous idiots rioting are the ones who shouldn't be here.
They should not be allowed to gain a single thing from this rioting.
Not a thing I'm my view.

thesheriff443
05-08-2024, 09:28 AM
and you haven't grasped what I am saying have you? the government not listening to ordinary, decent people for years has given the looters and rioters the opportunity for carnage, nowhere did I say fighting was the answer. Many of these people dont need a reason to fight they are anarchists, and opportunists


The government have come out and labelled anyone who raises an issue as Far Right, you were 'far right' yourself not so long ago and a massive Tory supporter before you have done an 180 degree turn

Wrong I’ve agreed with some Tory views I also agree with some labour views
I don’t defend anyone if I don’t agree same I don’t run with the crowd on here

You don’t understand scum bags have taken an opportunity to fight and cause criminal damage

Did the2011 riots start because a drug dealer got shot by the police

People standing and watching these animals fight the police makes the so called decent people just as bad

Cherie
05-08-2024, 09:29 AM
It's been a great week for the Far Right lets be honest, Labour have handed them plenty material to get more and more people on board, previously if you highlighted a concern about illegal immigration you would 'just' be called a racist, now its Racist and Far Right....give me strength at the idiots in power

I notice when people were protesting in Spain recently about over Tourism and lack of housing/opportunity many people were nodding along with them, not calling them racist or far right.....

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 09:30 AM
Stopping the boats isn't violent

Anti-mass immigration isn't violent

Protesting about failed integration isn't violent

The violence by and large is being done by teenagers with no cause

?

No, but seeing pictures with people holding Union Jacks whilst also taking on Police Officers is violent.

Cherie
05-08-2024, 09:31 AM
Wrong I’ve agreed with some Tory views I also agree with some labour views
I don’t defend anyone if I don’t agree same I don’t run with the crowd on here

You don’t understand scum bags have taken an opportunity to fight and cause criminal damage

Did the2011 riots start because a drug dealer got shot by the police

People standing and watching these animals fight the police makes the so called decent people just as bad

there is no crowd to run with on here ....give your head a wobble, we are all grown adults with families and jobs we dont need to align ourselves with anyone to feel good about ourselves, that is all in your head

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 09:34 AM
Whatever politic views ,whether you're left wing or right wing.... inciting violence and justifying weapons ,and destroying businesses & shops is despicable behaviour.

This!

Sometimes there's just a basic right and wrong, and these riots are wrong regardless of who is causing it.

user104658
05-08-2024, 09:35 AM
there is no crowd to run with on here ....give your head a wobble, we are all grown adults with families and jobs we dont need to align ourselves with anyone to feel good about ourselves, that is all in your head

"TiBB isn't tribalised" is one of the wildest takes I've seen on here Cherie, and that's saying something :joker:. Just a collection of free-thinking adults with no agenda whatsoever, simple intellectual curiosity, pondering the world here in TiBB SD's. :umm2:

Cherie
05-08-2024, 09:46 AM
"TiBB isn't tribalised" is one of the wildest takes I've seen on here Cherie, and that's saying something :joker:. Just a collection of free-thinking adults with no agenda whatsoever, simple intellectual curiosity, pondering the world here in TiBB SD's. :umm2:

all in your head mate, sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I dont, is that tribal? Obviously people will have similar political leanings, there are only so many political views to go around so people will end up agreeing or disagreeing..again if you want to call that Tribal be my guest :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 09:48 AM
No, but seeing pictures with people holding Union Jacks whilst also taking on Police Officers is violent.

Some were wearing Carhartt jeans

Are Carhartt jeans violent?

and are baseball caps violent as most have them on?

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 09:49 AM
The prime minister of Bangladesh has resigned and fled the country following a revolt from
citizens and sustained mass riots for weeks.

Police killed nearly 300 people since the riots broke out in Dhaka.

arista
05-08-2024, 09:53 AM
The prime minister of Bangladesh has resigned and fled the country following a revolt from
citizens and sustained mass riots for weeks.

Police killed nearly 300 people since the riots broke out in Dhaka.


Yes LT.

Was a Terrible PM


Bangladesh problem.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/07/18/16/87498769-13648137-image-a-30_1721315998045.jpg
[A motorcycle is set on fire at the
campus of University of Dhaka
amid the protests]

user104658
05-08-2024, 09:53 AM
all in your head mate, sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I dont, is that tribal? Obviously people will have similar political leanings, there are only so many political views to go around so people will end up agreeing or disagreeing..again if you want to call that Tribal be my guest :laugh:

"Issues consistently being discussed along the lines of political leanings rather than an objective non-political consideration of the issue without prejudice" is a longwinded description of exactly what tribalism is. This is a casual, tribalised political discussion forum, not an academic one. We can all admit at least that, surely.

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 09:59 AM
Some were wearing Carhartt jeans

Are Carhartt jeans violent?

and are baseball caps violent as most have them on?

A flag being used for violent protests can get tarnished and associated with that event, it wouldn't be the first time that's happened to a flag.

I am defending people's right to be able to have a Union Jack flag, but these idiots aren't helping those of us that are Pro-Union Jack when they bring it to violent demonstrations.

Parmy
05-08-2024, 09:59 AM
A few weeks ago wearing the st George's cross and an england top were seen as patriotic.

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 10:01 AM
A few weeks ago wearing the st George's cross and an england top were seen as patriotic.

Who's mentioned St George's Cross?

Parmy
05-08-2024, 10:03 AM
Who's mentioned St George's Cross?

Me..:shrug:

Your issue is?

Cherie
05-08-2024, 10:04 AM
"Issues consistently being discussed along the lines of political leanings rather than an objective non-political consideration of the issue without prejudice" is a longwinded description of exactly what tribalism is. This is a casual, tribalised political discussion forum, not an academic one. We can all admit at least that, surely.

so whose tribe are you in :pipe: let me guess you are a lone ranger :laugh:

Mystic Mock
05-08-2024, 10:05 AM
Me..:shrug:

Your issue is?

I'm sorry.

I thought that it was in response to another post on here, I just wanted to make sure.

user104658
05-08-2024, 10:20 AM
so whose tribe are you in :pipe: let me guess you are a lone ranger :laugh:

Oh no on here I flip and flop, but 90%+ of the time I fully admittedly engage in a tribalised manner. I'm capable of far better, and I know that LOTS of people on this forum are just as capable, I've always thought there are plenty of people on this forum who could have great discussions. But we don't. Not often. I'm not pretending I don't lean into that as well but I've been here long enough to know that the dream of anything else is a complete non-starter... and that's fine I guess. I mind even less now that my work means I'm in constant conversations with people being mindful and considerate. Nice to have a little spice occasionally, if anything.

I'd just prefer it if it didn't have to descend into actual extremism and radicalised dogwhistling.

I appreciate not always having to mind P's and Q's, I appreciate fairly low-moderation environment and a bit of a scrap, but I also think it's clearly slipped (not a small way) in a certain direction at this point.

There's been a conscious decision made somewhere, at some point, behind closed doors to let it do that, that hasn't been discussed and they flat out refuse to discuss. It's a touch strange, let's be honest.

bots
05-08-2024, 10:21 AM
Any symbol can be used to promote a riot and the far right do use the english flag on numerous occasions. It's not like it's something new

user104658
05-08-2024, 10:23 AM
Any symbol can be used to promote a riot and the far right do use the english flag on numerous occasions. It's not like it's something new

The English flag unfortunately was hijacked by the EDL-and-similar decades ago... it's genuinely a shame to see the Union Jack now going the same way. Because the thing about symbolism is that you don't get to choose what it symbolises, and it does matter... once that association is there, it's very hard (if not impossible) to undo it.

user104658
05-08-2024, 10:26 AM
One thing that tickles me a little, is the social media trend towards using the Union Jack imagery alongside "sleeping lions" as a call to arms for these riots.

The irony of lions not being native to Britain whatsoever is apparently lost on them :laugh:.

I even saw one person on TikTok comments boldly stating, "NOT TRUE Britain had the Cave Lion".

It went extinct 40,000 years ago :umm2: the streeeetching.

joeysteele
05-08-2024, 10:27 AM
It's actually the Police who have at first originally termed the rioters as mainly of the far right
With EDL leaflet in place too..

Since the Police are the ones in the front line, getting bricks and other objects hurled at them on a daily basis, plus the Police who are arresting the rioters so will know more than us watching on the TV

I'll go with the Police description of where this is from in the main, than anyone else's.
Plus it's the Police who will be informing the government of any of its findings too.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 10:27 AM
Following 10,000 arrests in the USA following disgraceful riots and looting far far worse than what has happened here...

-------

Sir Keir Starmer has urged Boris Johnson to challenge Donald Trump to
"respect human rights" following widespread protests in the United States
over the death of George Floyd.

In a letter to the prime minister, the Labour leader said there was a "moral
obligation" to speak out and the UK must show it was "ready to stand
together with those who seek to tackle the injustice and inequality that
remains within all our societies".

His comments come amid an outcry over the US president's incendiary
response to the protests raging across the US after the death of Mr Floyd, an
unarmed black man, at the hands of a white police officer.

Mr Trump has reacted in fury to the widespread unrest, tweeting that "looting
means shooting" and threatening protesters outside the White House with
the "most vicious dogs and most ominous weapons I have ever seen".

Sir Keir wrote: "In the House of Commons yesterday, I raised my shock and
anger at the killing of George Floyd and the response of US authorities to the
peaceful protests.

"This has shone a spotlight on the racism, discrimination and injustice
experienced by those from black and minority ethnic communities in the US
and across the world.

"I welcome that you shared some of the concerns I raised with you and want
to use this opportunity to explore what the British government is doing to
urge the United States and President Trump to respect human rights and the
fundamental democratic right to peaceful protest.

"I am sure that you share my strongly held belief that the UK has a moral
obligation to speak out in defence of these values, no matter where in the
world they are challenged."

He pressed the prime minister on whether the government had raised
concerns about about the reaction of US authorities to peaceful protests, and
how he was planning to emphasise the importance of a "peaceful and
proportionate" response to the protests.

Sir Keir also asked what the government was doing to ensure the UK exports
"are not being used in the suppression of democratic rights" following
growing calls for ministers to end the sale of riot gear and rubber bullets to
the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-floyd-protests-keir-starmer-boris-johnson-trump-us-a9549281.html

:think:

Parmy
05-08-2024, 10:30 AM
We need to get rid of the lions and use the badger, so we can all come together as one to rid us all of the parasitic establishment.

bots
05-08-2024, 10:35 AM
The English flag unfortunately was hijacked by the EDL-and-similar decades ago... it's genuinely a shame to see the Union Jack now going the same way. Because the thing about symbolism is that you don't get to choose what it symbolises, and it does matter... once that association is there, it's very hard (if not impossible) to undo it.

the most obvious recent example was the hamas hand glider image

Parmy
05-08-2024, 10:39 AM
When the white lower classes sing rule Britannia supporting England they are racists.

When the upper classes sing it at last night of the proms it's not seen as racist.


Just a thought.

Parmy
05-08-2024, 10:42 AM
Left wing trouble...infiltrated by right wing agitators!

Right wing trouble...no, not even 1 suggestion of left wing agitators like antifa.

arista
05-08-2024, 10:43 AM
Following 10,000 arrests in the USA following disgraceful riots and looting far far worse than what has happened here...

-------

Sir Keir Starmer has urged Boris Johnson to challenge Donald Trump to
"respect human rights" following widespread protests in the United States
over the death of George Floyd.

In a letter to the prime minister, the Labour leader said there was a "moral
obligation" to speak out and the UK must show it was "ready to stand
together with those who seek to tackle the injustice and inequality that
remains within all our societies".

His comments come amid an outcry over the US president's incendiary
response to the protests raging across the US after the death of Mr Floyd, an
unarmed black man, at the hands of a white police officer.

Mr Trump has reacted in fury to the widespread unrest, tweeting that "looting
means shooting" and threatening protesters outside the White House with
the "most vicious dogs and most ominous weapons I have ever seen".

Sir Keir wrote: "In the House of Commons yesterday, I raised my shock and
anger at the killing of George Floyd and the response of US authorities to the
peaceful protests.

"This has shone a spotlight on the racism, discrimination and injustice
experienced by those from black and minority ethnic communities in the US
and across the world.

"I welcome that you shared some of the concerns I raised with you and want
to use this opportunity to explore what the British government is doing to
urge the United States and President Trump to respect human rights and the
fundamental democratic right to peaceful protest.

"I am sure that you share my strongly held belief that the UK has a moral
obligation to speak out in defence of these values, no matter where in the
world they are challenged."

He pressed the prime minister on whether the government had raised
concerns about about the reaction of US authorities to peaceful protests, and
how he was planning to emphasise the importance of a "peaceful and
proportionate" response to the protests.

Sir Keir also asked what the government was doing to ensure the UK exports
"are not being used in the suppression of democratic rights" following
growing calls for ministers to end the sale of riot gear and rubber bullets to
the US.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/george-floyd-protests-keir-starmer-boris-johnson-trump-us-a9549281.html

:think:


Yes Back in 2020


LT you can add the Date of something
it would not hurt you

user104658
05-08-2024, 10:49 AM
Right wing trouble...no, not even 1 suggestion of left wing agitators like antifa.

Imagine if Tommy Robinson, Andrew Tate and Jordan Petersson were suddenly revealed to be undercover Antifa agents all along :joker:.

arista
05-08-2024, 11:24 AM
[Jordan Petersson]


SB

He is more Respected

arista
05-08-2024, 11:26 AM
['We will find you,' Police Warn Rioters after
violent protests in UK towns and cities]

The big hunt has started.........................

Zizu
05-08-2024, 11:29 AM
Our granddaughters were due to attend a kids fun activity in town today but they emailed us to say the event has been postponed due to the rioting and unrest in nearby towns !


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Zizu
05-08-2024, 11:30 AM
['We will find you,' Police Warn Rioters after
violent protests in UK towns and cities]

The big hunt has started.........................


I’ll believe it when I see it


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arista
05-08-2024, 11:32 AM
Our granddaughters were due to attend a kids fun activity in town today but they emailed us to say the event has been postponed due to the rioting and unrest in nearby towns !



That is understandable

arista
05-08-2024, 11:41 AM
PM Starmar
has had a Emergencey Cobra meeting.


So he must have plans for this week

Vanessa
05-08-2024, 11:42 AM
PM Starmar
has had a Emergencey Cobra meeting.


So he must have plans for this week

He needs to bring in the army. This lot won't respect a lockdown or curfew.

joeysteele
05-08-2024, 11:53 AM
The armed forces will not be used UNLESS the Police call on the government for it.
Then saying they can no longer cope.

The Police uphold the law, the Police currently believe they can deal with these riots and these thugs and idiots.

When or if, the police feel they are losing control, then they'll possibly ask the government for armed forces assistance.

user104658
05-08-2024, 11:57 AM
Military involvement would be an absolute disaster and completely unwarranted unless there's an example of much more significant unrest than anything we've seen so far. Completely disproportionate.

bots
05-08-2024, 11:57 AM
the police haven't lost control, they have a lot more left in reserve if they choose to use it. They haven't even implemented any of their serious crowd control measures yet

user104658
05-08-2024, 12:00 PM
the police haven't lost control, they have a lot more left in reserve if they choose to use it. They haven't even implemented any of their serious crowd control measures yet

Exactly - if even the police are showing significant restraint currently, the likelihood of them calling in the military is zero. My suspicion is that the Tommy Robinson style weekend-activism vanguard would disperse pretty quickly and not return if they got a faceful of CS gas.

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 12:08 PM
The Establishment is the problem.

Here we have an overt example of MSM colluding with politicians.

Former Labour Minister Ed Balls interviews his wife & Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper.

They blame the “far right” & “social media”.

They are coming for 𝕏.

video is here - https://x.com/calvinrobinson/status/1820428574505013250

bots
05-08-2024, 12:09 PM
People don't seem to understand modern day reality.. The police don't need to get involved in confrontation. They can pick off ring leaders and then follow up arresting everyone else that was there using AI. The days of thugs lurking in a crowd and hiding are long gone, and wearing a mask isn't going to help either.

Look at jan 6th in america, thousands of protestors were involved and are now facing prosecution. They don't need to be arrested at the scene any more

user104658
05-08-2024, 12:15 PM
People don't seem to understand modern day reality.. The police don't need to get involved in confrontation. They can pick off ring leaders and then follow up arresting everyone else that was there using AI. The days of thugs lurking in a crowd and hiding are long gone, and wearing a mask isn't going to help either.

Look at jan 6th in america, thousands of protestors were involved and are now facing prosecution. They don't need to be arrested at the scene any more

It's not just the tech, one thing that has been done right is the rise of local and community policing - integration in communities and talking to people.

They don't need AI to identify people, local police looking at these videos will be able to identify and name the vast majority of the worst offenders. They'll know them by name, who they generally kick about with, and where their granny likes to get a nice cuppa and a wee cake.

arista
05-08-2024, 12:16 PM
https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/08/05/463403543892479904/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_463403543892479904.jpg


Yes he Grabbed the Sky News Mic.

Bent it down


I like his Temper

arista
05-08-2024, 01:01 PM
The Illegal Migrants that were in that Hotel
were moved overnight to other locations.

The Mayor just Spoke outside the
Damaged Holiday Inn Express Hotel.

Ref: BBC World News HD

Crimson Dynamo
05-08-2024, 01:06 PM
The Illegal Migrants that were in that Hotel
were moved overnight to other locations.

The Mayor just Spoke outside the
Damaged Holiday Inn Express Hotel.

Ref: BBC World News HD

I bet that hotel brought in much-needed trade for so many local businesses and now its dead because our Government cant protect its maritime border from invasion

sickening

Parmy
05-08-2024, 01:12 PM
People don't seem to understand modern day reality.. The police don't need to get involved in confrontation. They can pick off ring leaders and then follow up arresting everyone else that was there using AI. The days of thugs lurking in a crowd and hiding are long gone, and wearing a mask isn't going to help either.

Look at jan 6th in america, thousands of protestors were involved and are now facing prosecution. They don't need to be arrested at the scene any more




By the police just standing back and allowing the crowds anger to build through mob mentality then I would suggest that is entrapment..they are their to maintain law and order, not sit back allowing it to happen.. 4 horses stood back all day in rotherham yesterday at that hotel.

arista
05-08-2024, 01:25 PM
I bet that hotel brought in much-needed trade for so many local businesses and now its dead because our Government cant protect its maritime border from invasion

sickening


Yes 240 Illegal Migrants
funded by the Government

All left the Holiday Inn Express
in the dark, overnight to other UK locations.


That Hotel will no longer get
Government Funding

user104658
05-08-2024, 01:50 PM
By the police just standing back and allowing the crowds anger to build through mob mentality then I would suggest that is entrapment..they are their to maintain law and order, not sit back allowing it to happen.. 4 horses stood back all day in rotherham yesterday at that hotel.

Entrapment! "If you don't make us not kick off and start burning things, we will definitely do that and it'll be all your fault!"

Parmy
05-08-2024, 02:10 PM
Entrapment! "If you don't make us not kick off and start burning things, we will definitely do that and it'll be all your fault!"

Maybe a bit silly, I will concede to that, but the police saw the day before what they were up against and didnt seem to bolster their defences at all at rotherham, nor bolton either as at rotherham they allowed all that vandalism to happen, and at bolton they failed to keep the 2 sides apart.

Were they perhaps doing it deliberately so they can be seen to have people they can clamp down on?

Liam-
05-08-2024, 02:20 PM
https://twitter.com/sophcorcoran/status/1820452660652179550?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

The racist thugs are already starting to regret their violence and I love it

arista
05-08-2024, 02:22 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/05/07/88161517-13709115-image-a-24_1722840727428.jpg
[Racist graffiti was pictured in Tamworth this
morning with phrases 'Get out England' and 'F... the pigs]

Parmy
05-08-2024, 02:30 PM
Should have done this on Saturday.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/uk-riots-today-protest-rotherham-tamworth-liverpool-bolton-news-b2591141.html