Riots / Protests [Merged threads]

[Beso]

It's scary when the government is telling the law courts how to respond to the rioters up in court. I'm all for past offenders to be refused bail, but 1st offenders shouldnt be getting remanded for pushing bins or throwing stuff.

[bots]

you seem to be very pro rioters Parm

[Glenn.]

I bet that hotel brought in much-needed trade for so many local businesses and now its dead because our Government cant protect its maritime border from invasion

sickening

More sickening than a load of vicious thugs setting it ablaze in the hope of killing refugees?

[Beso]

you seem to be very pro rioters Parm

I just like a fair and just society for all. People shouldn't be refused bail just cause the PM says so. Every one of them should have a proper background check and their chances of reoffending whilst on bail should be taken into account. There family background should also be checked to see if anyone else will suffer due to their incarceration.. you cant just throw the book at people because that 4 eyed twat says so.

[bots]

I just like a fair and just society for all. People shouldn't be refused bail just cause the PM says so. Every one of them should have a proper background check and their chances of reoffending whilst on bail should be taken into account. There family background should also be checked to see if anyone else will suffer due to their incarceration.. you cant just throw the book at people because that 4 eyed twat says so.

the PM cannot change the justice system without passing a law in parliament. His words in a speech mean nothing and carry zero weight

[Glenn.]

I just like a fair and just society for all. People shouldn't be refused bail just cause the PM says so. Every one of them should have a proper background check and their chances of reoffending whilst on bail should be taken into account. There family background should also be checked to see if anyone else will suffer due to their incarceration.. you cant just throw the book at people because that 4 eyed twat says so.

Play stupid games then win stupid prizes.

Simple as that really. How is it fair for someone to throw a brick at police or set fire to a hotel and block the exits and not be punished?

[Crimson Dynamo]

More sickening than a load of vicious thugs setting it ablaze in the hope of killing refugees?

They should never have been in there, or in this country full stop

[Beso]

the PM cannot change the justice system without passing a law in parliament. His words in a speech mean nothing and carry zero weight

Absolute tripe of a statement.

He told the national they would be dealt swiftly and severely, a bold statement to make without having the judges in his pocket.

[Beso]

Play stupid games then win stupid prizes.

Simple as that really. How is it fair for someone to throw a brick at police or set fire to a hotel and block the exits and not be punished?

Who said they cant be punished? They must be punished, but fairly, and not because of knee jerk reactions from a pm trying to act tough.

[arista]

https://pictures.thisisbigbrother.com/userpics/10433/normal_BB_CameronSianZoeA.jpg

Some years ago
Ch5HD Big Brother
would have been no good at that Hotel
last night

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/GiftCee/status/1820438958154682757?t=CGGIBKMa4cbzrCisrnPpuQ&s=19
Does anyone agree with this? I think it's spit on.

[bots]

Absolute tripe of a statement.

He told the national they would be dealt swiftly and severely, a bold statement to make without having the judges in his pocket.

you are talking sh ite Parm. The PM's words mean nothing and you know it. You just support rioters

[Crimson Dynamo]

Police going to a medically infirm pensioner and arresting him due to some Facebook comments..

Startling video is here: https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1820443887795581196

[Glenn.]

They should never have been in there, or in this country full stop

So no. You don’t care that white British thugs tried to kill them

[Vanessa]

Police going to a medically infirm pensioner and arresting him due to some Facebook comments..

Startling video is here: https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1820443887795581196

Facebook has censorship. Better comment in here or twitter. Twitter no censorship.

[Glenn.]

Police going to a medically infirm pensioner and arresting him due to some Facebook comments..

Startling video is here: https://x.com/VoWalesOfficial/status/1820443887795581196

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I’m so happy racist gammons are being rounded up.

[Vanessa]

Play stupid games win stupid prizes.

I’m so happy racist gammons are being rounded up.

They should also arrest anyone who carry machetes, but they don't. It's infuriating.

[Glenn.]

They should also arrest anyone who carry machetes, but they don't. It's infuriating.

They will in time. They said hours of police time will go into finding everyone that was involved.

[Quantum Boy]

Facebook has censorship. Better comment in here or twitter. Twitter no censorship.

You seem to be mixing up "censorship" with the law, Vanessa. You can absolutely be arrested for things you say on Twitter.

Or on here.

[Beso]

you are talking sh ite Parm. The PM's words mean nothing and you know it. You just support rioters

No, he told the world what would happen to them. He wouldnt have said that if he didnt know it would come to fruition. The rioters are gaining my sympathy because if his words, do I support their actions..No, no I dont. Do I want severe punishment for the worst offenders with past criminal convictions..yes, yes I do. Should leniency be shown to 1st offenders.. yes, yes it should.



You cant and must not tar them all with the same brush the way the PM has before their court dates, you do that you lose I'm afraid.

[Vanessa]

You seem to be mixing up "censorship" with the law, Vanessa. You can absolutely be arrested for things you say on Twitter.

Or on here.

Oh well, I'll take the risk. Keeping quiet is not an option. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

[Vanessa]

No, he told the world what would happen to them. He wouldnt have said that if he didnt know it would come to fruition. The rioters are gaining my sympathy because if his words, do I support their actions..No, no I dont. Do I want severe punishment for the worst offenders with past criminal
convictions..yes, yes I do. Should leniency be shown to 1st offenders.. yes, yes it should.



You cant and must not tar them all with the same brush the way the PM has before




their court dates, you do that you lose I'm afraid.
I agree with that. Saying that they're all far right is wrong and untrue.

[Quantum Boy]

Oh well, I'll take the risk. Keeping quiet is not an option. I wouldn't be able to live with myself.

Keeping what quiet.

[Vanessa]

Keeping what quiet.

I mean not saying anything.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I agree with that. Saying that they're all far right is wrong and untrue.

Its dangerous

[Beso]

Its dangerous

Its opened up anyone wearing an england shirt or maybe flying a union jack from their house as fair game to anyone seeking revenge...

Starmer is a fool.

[Quantum Boy]

Do I want severe punishment for the worst offenders with past criminal convictions..yes, yes I do. Should leniency be shown to 1st offenders.. yes, yes it should.

If they're under 21 sure; I don't particularly want to see dumb kids and teenagers lives ruined over some stupid behaviour (they have no idea what they're doing or what it's all about, let's face it) unless they've actually assaulted someone.

Over 21? Nah. Grown ups shouldn't get the "it was me first time guv I had no idea it was illegal to do a riot" defense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its opened up anyone wearing an england shirt or maybe flying a union jack from their house as fair game to anyone seeking revenge...

Starmer is a fool.

His labour party cronies have been demonising white English patriots for years now

Sneering at anyone who supports the football team or dares show pride in the country

[joeysteele]

In my opinion.
Every single person who has taken part in these riots.
Should all equally be punished to the maximum penalty.

Someone who does one deliberately planned murder, is a first offender but will not likely get much sympathy or.leniency.

These rioters are by their own free choices and actions, extremely dangerous individuals.
Who shouldn't be anywhere near free to walk the streets now of this Country.
That's in my view every single one who are part of the riots.
It's actually staggering that there's any who'd even try to excuse their actions and even worse that there's people who'd even support them.

[arista]

https://x.com/MahyarTousi/status/1820161468437823687

Yesterday, the Muslim Defense League
chased and attacked one white fella

[Glenn.]

His labour party cronies have been demonising white English patriots for years now

Sneering at anyone who supports the football team or dares show pride in the country

Only the ones who demonise minorities.

[arista]

"Starmer is a fool."



Yes but he is the Elected Prime Minister
so we are stuck with him.

[Glenn.]

In my opinion.
Every single person who has taken part in these riots.
Should all equally be punished to the maximum penalty.

Someone who does one deliberately planned murder, is a first offender but will not likely get much sympathy or.leniency.

These rioters are by their own free choices and actions, extremely dangerous individuals.
Who shouldn't be anywhere near free to walk the streets now of this Country.
That's in my view every single one who are part of the riots.
It's actually staggering that there's any who'd even try to excuse their actions and even worse that there's people who'd even support them.

couldn’t agree more :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Starmer is a fool."



Yes but he is the Elected Prime Minister
so we are stuck with him.

he has has a total disaster of a first month

:umm2:

[Beso]

In my opinion.
Every single person who has taken part in these riots.
Should all equally be punished to the maximum penalty.

Someone who does one deliberately planned murder, is a first offender but will not likely get much sympathy or.leniency.

These rioters are by their own free choices and actions, extremely dangerous individuals.
Who shouldn't be anywhere near free to walk the streets now of this Country.
That's in my view every single one who are part of the riots.
It's actually staggering that there's any who'd even try to excuse their actions and even worse that there's people who'd even support them.


Even the ones with a mental illness, joey?

[Beso]

Only the ones who demonise minorities.

That's an awful lot of muslims you will be sneering at, I'd give it a week or 2 if I were you before going out to sneer at them for demonising homosexuals

[Glenn.]

That's an awful lot of muslims you will be sneering at, I'd give it a week or 2 if I were you before going out to sneer at them for demonising homosexuals

Why would I be going out and sneering at them?

[Beso]

Why would I be going out and sneering at them?

Because it seems ok to sneer at people who demonize minorities.

[Zizu]

Yikes

https://x.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1820103595066372258


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[Glenn.]

Because it seems ok to sneer at people who demonize minorities.

That didn’t answer my question

[Glenn.]

Yikes

https://x.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1820103595066372258


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****ing losers

[bots]

Its opened up anyone wearing an england shirt or maybe flying a union jack from their house as fair game to anyone seeking revenge...

Starmer is a fool.

forgive me for not taking your thoughts on this particular subject particularly seriously when you cream your pants every time Tommy Robinsons name is mentioned and you have spent your time actively promoting him on this site.

Your, we must be fair to rioters just doesn't ring true given Robinson was behind it all

[Quantum Boy]

Yikes

https://x.com/AvonandsomerRob/status/1820103595066372258


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Can you circle the teenagers LeatherTrumpet I'm struggling here, it looks like an awful lot like angry football yobs in their 30's and beyond? I'm not sure, at times it's hard to see past the swollen beer guts.

[Beso]

forgive me for not taking your thoughts on this particular subject particularly seriously when you cream your pants every time Tommy Robinsons name is mentioned and you have spent your time actively promoting him on this site.

Your, we must be fair to rioters just doesn't ring true given Robinson was behind it all




I promote the fact we have 2 tier policing, tommy robinson just happens to support my thinking on that..

Bothered what you think anymore...no. not one bit.

[Crimson Dynamo]

forgive me for not taking your thoughts on this particular subject particularly seriously when you cream your pants every time Tommy Robinsons name is mentioned and you have spent your time actively promoting him on this site.

Your, we must be fair to rioters just doesn't ring true given Robinson was behind it all

:joker:


He is on a planned family holiday and has been constantly calling for peace and non violence

put down your Daily Mail

[Quantum Boy]

He is on a planned family holiday and has been constantly calling for peace and non violence

Are you familiar with the term "plausible deniability" at all.

[Liam-]

He’s not on holiday he’s on the run because he’s got a warrant on him :joker:

[Glenn.]

Suddenly the Daily Fail is the problem.

How the tables have turned :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you familiar with the term "plausible deniability" at all.

He isn't denying anything he is on a relaxing planned family holiday in Cyprus

Having a lovely time in the sun

Much to the fumes of the far left :hee:

[Glenn.]

While his far right burn hotels

[Quantum Boy]

He isn't denying anything he is on a relaxing planned family holiday in Cyprus

Having a lovely time in the sun

Much to the fumes of the far left :hee:

Ahh so Glenn is correct: Tommy Robbo left the country before he was due in court last Monday, and there's a warrant out for his arrest for failing to attend.

I wonder if you're unaware or just lying. I don't wonder very much being honest. But I do wonder, slightly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tommy has been engaging with the BBC:laugh:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUNVaWMWIAA8cNV?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Quantum Boy]

Tommy has been engaging with the BBC:laugh:


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUNVaWMWIAA8cNV?format=jpg&name=900x900

His wife and kids won't be very happy with him sh*tposting while he's on his relaxing family holiday surely? I hope he doesn't end up a lonely, bitter divorced bloke hurtling towards 50 and beyond with nothing better to do than post on T... on X.

[Vanessa]

I promote the fact we have 2 tier policing, tommy robinson just happens to support my thinking on that..

Bothered what you think anymore...no. not one bit.

We definitely have that. They haven't treated people the same.

[arista]

One in Court early this morning
was a lad aged 14.

[Barry.]

Looting is going to save the children definitely!

[Crimson Dynamo]

His wife and kids won't be very happy with him sh*tposting while he's on his relaxing family holiday surely? I hope he doesn't end up a lonely, bitter divorced bloke hurtling towards 50 and beyond with nothing better to do than post on T... on X.

Does your wife monitor who you text on holiday?

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

One in Court early this morning
was a lad aged 14.

Yep

no surprise

another far right skinhead..


:skull:

[Liam-]

We definitely have that. They haven't treated people the same.

Who haven’t they treaded the same?

[Quantum Boy]

Does your wife monitor who you text on holiday?

:umm2:

We tend to actually spend time as a family when we're on holiday, you may notice my absence at these times I'm sure it's very sad for everyone.

That said I do sometimes have a wee look in while I'm taking my morning toilet break.

So maybe he was texting from the toilet during his peaceful planned family holiday. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt. He definitely wasn't sat glued to his phone in a hotel room watching the UK kick off in his name from his court-dodging hideaway (abroad :joker: the irony is almost too much). Tommy Robinson, asylum seeker. "They're going to put me in jail for speaking my mind and it's scary in there!!"

[Quantum Boy]

Yep

no surprise

another far right skinhead..


:skull:

Have you had a chance to look at the video linked above yet LT or do you only cherrypick the posts that confirm your BS that it's all just teenagers, and ignore the ones with video evidence showing that it clearly isn't? You wouldn't do that would you? You don't have some sort of... agenda... do you? :worry:

[Quantum Boy]

Looting is going to save the children definitely!

https://i.imgur.com/2w006Ni.jpeg

[arista]

[How many members of the Muslim Defence League will
be arrested in Stoke for openly carrying weapons?

Will there be a special police task force
to tackle Islamic hate gangs?

Will these thugs receive banning orders?

Two-tier Starmer and Labour are spineless.]


https://x.com/TPointUK/status/1819786776942190896

[Liam-]

If racist thugs weren’t attacking them and their communities Muslims wouldn’t have to band together to protect themselves, their families and said communities, it’s a direct response to the manufactured racist riots

[Ninastar]

[How many members of the Muslim Defence League will
be arrested in Stoke for openly carrying weapons?

Will there be a special police task force
to tackle Islamic hate gangs?

Will these thugs receive banning orders?

Two-tier Starmer and Labour are spineless.]


https://x.com/TPointUK/status/1819786776942190896

I imagine cops will be more anxious/hesitant to arrest any Muslims/POC in fear of being targeted as racist. That’s been an issue for many things in the UK, I think that people being afraid to report or act on things for the fear of being labelled a racist or right wing extremist etc etc is a genuine problem in itself. You get more hate for talking about immigration than you do if you kill 3 school girls and soon enough this is going to bite the left in the foot. Like how the left over here kept denying that Biden was just… deteriorating.

You have to speak about these uncomfortable discussions like grown adults and you just never get to see that

[GoldHeart]

I imagine cops will be more anxious/hesitant to arrest any Muslims/POC in fear of being targeted as racist. That’s been an issue for many things in the UK, I think that people being afraid to report or act on things for the fear of being labelled a racist or right wing extremist etc etc is a genuine problem in itself. You get more hate for talking about immigration than you do if you kill 3 school girls and soon enough this is going to bite the left in the foot. Like how the left over here kept denying that Biden was just… deteriorating.

You have to speak about these uncomfortable discussions like grown adults and you just never get to see that


Exactly :clap1:

[Vanessa]

I imagine cops will be more anxious/hesitant to arrest any Muslims/POC in fear of being targeted as racist. That’s been an issue for many things in the UK, I think that people being afraid to report or act on things for the fear of being labelled a racist or right wing extremist etc etc is a genuine problem in itself. You get more hate for talking about immigration than you do if you kill 3 school girls and soon enough this is going to bite the left in the foot. Like how the left over here kept denying that Biden was just… deteriorating.

You have to speak about these uncomfortable discussions like grown adults and you just never get to see that

They need to arrest those muslims who carry machetes. Surely it's a crime to carry dangerous weapons and assault people?

[Ninastar]

They need to arrest those muslims who carry machetes. Surely it's a crime to carry dangerous weapons and assault people?

I imagine ppl would be arrested to carrying weapons in public… right?

Is that not happening?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sly News getting up close and personal with the "Far Right Thugs".. :skull:

https://x.com/JACKGUYANDERTON/status/1820493867852181518

[Crimson Dynamo]

They need to arrest those muslims who carry machetes. Surely it's a crime to carry dangerous weapons and assault people?

This was freely shown on Sky News - from Birmingham - guy has a sword :skull:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOwUlQWAAAAnxK?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

Sly News getting up close and personal with the "Far Right Thugs".. :skull:

https://x.com/JACKGUYANDERTON/status/1820493867852181518

This was freely shown on Sky News - from Birmingham - guy has a sword :skull:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOwUlQWAAAAnxK?format=jpg&name=small

fgs :laugh:

[Cherie]

I imagine cops will be more anxious/hesitant to arrest any Muslims/POC in fear of being targeted as racist. That’s been an issue for many things in the UK, I think that people being afraid to report or act on things for the fear of being labelled a racist or right wing extremist etc etc is a genuine problem in itself. You get more hate for talking about immigration than you do if you kill 3 school girls and soon enough this is going to bite the left in the foot. Like how the left over here kept denying that Biden was just… deteriorating.

You have to speak about these uncomfortable discussions like grown adults and you just never get to see that

The most sensible post I have seen on this thread, the video above is actual proof of that, can you imagine one of the 'Far Right' making a gun gesture to the camera, there would be 100 police in riot shields marching him off

[Cherie]

https://i.imgur.com/2w006Ni.jpeg

:joker:

[Cherie]

I think what I found most frustrating about Starmer this weekend was his School Master address to the nation, fine deal with the thugs and the thuggery, but then why not also address the elephant in the room and how you are going to deal with it, give people a bit of hope that you are actually going to do something other than fill Holiday Inns with young men and give them no hope other than to sit there for years, plenty to say about immigration in the lead of to the election, now get on with it Keir

[Zizu]

This was freely shown on Sky News - from Birmingham - guy has a sword :skull:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOwUlQWAAAAnxK?format=jpg&name=small


Thats an immediate arrest with appropriate force usually !!


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[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1820480471517839768?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

These rabid racists aren’t going to be happy until they get innocent poc murdered for their agenda

[Zizu]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Good old far right racism. Not content with taking down tibb, they're now after the whole country.

[Zizu]

The Establishment is the problem.

Here we have an overt example of MSM colluding with politicians.

Former Labour Minister Ed Balls interviews his wife & Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper.

They blame the “far right” & “social media”.

They are coming for 𝕏.

video is here - https://x.com/calvinrobinson/status/1820428574505013250


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[The Slim Reaper]

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They had Esther McVey and her husband (also a politician but can't remember his name) given their own Tv show on GB news where they would interview other tory politicians.

Cooper and balls are disgusting people in general (especially balls), but GB news broke the seal on this stupidity, so now it's open for everyone to abuse.

[Vanessa]

Thats an immediate arrest with appropriate force usually !!


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But they're ignoring these things. That's the biggest problem.

[arista]

Protest in Plymouth

Right Now.

SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

Also in Birmingham

Ch4HDnews.

[Cherie]

Do they want their country back ...they can have it..as far as I'm concerned :idc:

[Barry.]

I don’t think this is happening in Scotland or Wales.

[The Slim Reaper]

Some serious organising going on to set up these racism riots

[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t think this is happening in Scotland or Wales.

I thought they would never happen in Liverpool, but they did. A lot of money behind the organisation of these riots, so I don't think anywhere is immune. Although the fact it's an English nazi movement, means they're probably not too interested in scots or wales.

[The Slim Reaper]

Same is happening in Ireland, concerned citizens being dubbed Far Right

:joker:

[Liam-]

The English racists tried to have a go in Cardiff centre last night but only a handful of them turned up and got changed away with their tails between their legs by hundreds of real patriots

[Cherie]

:joker:

Laugh away sitting on your high horse

[MTVN]

The English racists tried to have a go in Cardiff centre last night but only a handful of them turned up and got changed away with their tails between their legs by hundreds of real patriots

That language is a bit divisive tbh as if only English people can be racist. Surely racism is a societal problem which cuts across all areas of the UK. We know Scotland is not immune to prejudice and there was also a very unsavoury protest in Northern Ireland.

Don't think treating this as an 'English' problem is helpful

[The Slim Reaper]

Laugh away sitting on your high horse

Yeah, you told me.

On my high horse.

laugh away.

:laugh:

This is nearly more ridiculous than the original post I reacted to. Nearly.

You should be cheering the rioters on as they're on your team of concerned citizens.

[Liam-]

That language is a bit divisive tbh as if only English people can be racist. Surely racism is a societal problem which cuts across all areas of the UK. We know Scotland is not immune to prejudice and there was also a very unsavoury protest in Northern Ireland.

Don't think treating this as an 'English' problem is helpful

I didn’t say only English people can be racist, I said English racists travelled to Cardiff to try and stir up trouble, which they did try to do and the locals weren’t having any of it

[Vanessa]

Musk is 100% right. Starmer only concerned with the muslim community. What about all the other communities?
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[Liam-]

Vanessa, who is being attacked my hordes of masked thugs roaming the streets looking for people to attack to make themselves feel better?

[Cherie]

Yeah, you told me.

On my high horse.

laugh away.

:laugh:

This is nearly more ridiculous than the original post I reacted to. Nearly.

You should be cheering the rioters on as they're on your team of concerned citizens.

I was talking about the people of Coolock a deprived part of Dublin who were protesting outside a paint factory soon to be converted to an asylum centre, peaceful protest in the main, until the Gardai got handsy...get your ducks in a row maybe before you comment :smug:

[Beso]

According to the survey, 35 per cent approve of Sir Keir as prime minister compared to 32 per cent disapprove giving him a net rating of +3 per cent. This is 16 per cent down on the previous poll after the election.

[The Slim Reaper]

Or people have to do **** like this because there is not, and never has been, any kind of dialogue allowed.

Absolute nonsense. All we've had for the last decade is this same dialogue about hating minorities. Tories for most of it, but this lab party is just as bad. Austerity is the cause of most of this. Asylum seekers haven't eaten up the money in this country, corporations and the wealthy have. Alongside the added bonus of the brexit financial deficit.

Politicians have sat aside taking massive payments from these corps to keep them in their jobs, and are happy to allow these minorities to take the blame for their destruction.

You've swapped expecting more from your government, for misplaced racist anger.

The daily mail was posting front pages against your people coming here on kindertransport, and now you've lapped up those same views against others.

[The Slim Reaper]

I was talking about the people of Coolock a deprived part of Dublin who were protesting outside a paint factory soon to be converted to an asylum centre, peaceful protest in the main, until the Gardai got handsy...get your ducks in a row maybe before you comment :smug:

What about your other posts in this thread? Or is every post in here specific to Coolock? It's ok to own your "just asking questions" bigotry. In fact, that would be a welcome change.

[Beso]

Dont you think the establishment need a bloody nose for their actions in getting rich while society and our city and town centres are left to ruin. Slim reaper.

[Vanessa]

Muslims openly carrying machetes and attacking people with it. Government and media complexity ignoring it.
We're not safe in the UK.
I really wish it wasn't like this, but it is.

[The Slim Reaper]

Dont you think the establishment need a bloody nose for their actions in getting rich while society and our city and town centres are left to ruin. Slim reaper.

It's a difficult one. They absolutely do deserve a bloody nose, but this isn't the early to mid 20th century anymore. Weapon superiority is so one sided that those days are well and truly over. I do think solidarity rallies aimed at ending austerity is about the best that it's possible to hope for in the present day.

[Vanessa]

This guy is carrying a sword. Since when this is allowed? Madness.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240805/85c2a61e3b37f3838d47dd5ac1ae380c.jpg

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[Alf]

The English racists tried to have a go in Cardiff centre last night but only a handful of them turned up and got changed away with their tails between their legs by hundreds of real patriotsYour language is inciting behaviour like this. These people use the same language as you, as their excuse for this violent attack.


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[The Slim Reaper]

This guy is carrying a sword. Since when this is allowed? Madness.[/IMG]

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It's called "the minority sword law" that was passed under Margaret Thatcher. It strictly forbids Honkys from carrying sharp weapons, so that only brown faces can have them.

PC gone mad.

[The Slim Reaper]

Your language is inciting behaviour like this. These people use the same language as you, as their excuse for this violent attack.


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You know that dude is a weird dude towards young girls? I've posted numerous screenshots of him being weirder than weird. Not commenting on the tweet you've posted, just on that specific dude. He sits in Malaysia riling up people in America, mainly.

[Cherie]

What about your other posts in this thread? Or is every post in here specific to Coolock? It's ok to own your "just asking questions" bigotry. In fact, that would be a welcome change.

I stand behind all my posts on this thread, you seem very comfortable letting in illegals who are then left to fester with no hope of a job or a life and 10.00 a week year in, year out, the more the merrier you cry, they are fine bring more in, let them fester, and let the backlog pile up, I think actually you are the bigot actually. :smug:

[DemRed]

Some serious organising going on to set up these racism riots

I feel positive that those with their faces covered may well have been paid to do this, and its no surprise to me that as Israel loses support around the populations of the Western world, this sort of anti Muslim **** is occurring.

You may do well to look up Operation Gladio

[The Slim Reaper]

I stand behind all my posts on this thread, you seem very comfortable letting in illegals who are then left to fester with no hope of a job or a life and 10.00 a week year in, year out, the more the merrier you cry, they are fine bring more in, let them fester, and let the backlog pile up, I think actually you are the bigot actually. :smug:

I am rubber you are glue...

I mean, if we're letting them in, then by definition they are not "illegals." Silly billy.

I've stated that the previous government purposefully smashed down our processing capabilities to use brown folks as a punching bag to rile up gullible little bigots (anyone spring to mind???), and well, here we are. Only an idiot would think "so let me give them what they want by attacking minorities." If you knew what was happening, and still joined in with the bigots, then that would make you 10x worse than someone who believed the lies to begin with.

[The Slim Reaper]

I feel positive that those with their faces covered may well have been paid to do this, and its no surprise to me that as Israel loses support around the populations of the Western world, this sort of anti Muslim **** is occurring.

You may do well to look up Operation Gladio

I've read some of the stuff about Israeli links, but tbh, I need more info at this stage as that is veering a little too close to conspiracy talk for my liking. I'll look into operation gladio and see what i find. Cheers for pointing me in the direction.

I also read that police have gone into the retailers for balaclavas in Rotherham, and they've got them on CCTV wearing the same clothes as they wore in the shops. :laugh:

[Beso]

It's a difficult one. They absolutely do deserve a bloody nose, but this isn't the early to mid 20th century anymore. Weapon superiority is so one sided that those days are well and truly over. I do think solidarity rallies aimed at ending austerity is about the best that it's possible to hope for in the present day.


The days of making them think they are cutting onions is over.ot seems.

Heres 40 minutes of Portsmouth up close, both sides are ignoring the police. Filming has to end due to brick to head to filmer.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Emdldem1qfM?si=duh78_xwUc9Hyxf2

[The Slim Reaper]

The days of making them think they are cutting onions is over.ot seems.

Heres 40 minutes of Portsmouth up close, both sides are ignoring the police. Filming has to end due to brick to head to filmer.
https://www.youtube.com/live/Emdldem1qfM?si=duh78_xwUc9Hyxf2

What is this supposed to show me? i'm not watching a 31 minute video.

[Vanessa]

Stay out of Birmingham. Masked armed gangs are attacking people.
No police in sight.

[Oliver_W]

Stay out of Birmingham. Masked armed gangs are attacking people.
No police in sight.

And then all this kicked off.

[The Slim Reaper]

Stay out of Birmingham. Masked armed gangs are attacking people.
No police in sight.

Sounds like Mock is up to his usual shenanigans.

[Alf]

Arista, give us some news of what's been happening in the financial markets today..

I heard there was some kerfuffle.

[Alf]

Arista is my Alexa

[arista]

3 Police Injured in Plymouth

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[arista]

Birmingham

Weapons

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUPDuW1WAAA57ft?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Birmingham

Weapons

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUPDuW1WAAA57ft?format=jpg&name=small


Yes

I will be disappointed if he doesn’t get arrested .. pretty sure those swords are illegal to own never mind brandish in broad daylight


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[Vanessa]

This is interesting https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240805/fa28624c412b56a05ba2b143f49405d7.jpg

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[Vanessa]

Yes

I will be disappointed if he doesn’t get arrested .. pretty sure those swords are illegal to own never mind brandish in broad daylight


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Police are letting them go round with their weapons. They're attacking people in Birmingham.

[Beso]

Plymouth live..unique viewpoint.

https://www.youtube.com/live/8L7Z-xca6fI?si=HISWYugqaAI-1HtA

[Beso]

These are the people the police need to be chasing down.

Absolute vile inhumane wankers.

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=ZX3uNy4TrccfYAGy

[Cherie]

These are the people the police need to be chasing down.

Absolute vile inhumane wankers.

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=ZX3uNy4TrccfYAGy

Scum

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-30a6d81d-081d-4854-9ad3-90f78fc64874.png


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-b16e0ad7-f906-41b4-9da1-21620f0502bb.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-dd6fcc1e-7ac1-4ee5-acf3-46af00b7dffd.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c1c605c0-6f80-40bf-a4cc-e44e0b79cac5.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4842f523-0ade-494d-91d5-ed118a996f0a.png

[The Slim Reaper]

These are the people the police need to be chasing down.

Absolute vile inhumane wankers.

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=ZX3uNy4TrccfYAGy

Look like a bunch of concerned citizens to me.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cbbe130f-505b-4bea-b2a9-95adf2da6e40.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8ee64c0a-8c63-4182-bedc-ba3ba0d87eef.png

[Alf]

These are the people the police need to be chasing down.

Absolute vile inhumane wankers.

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=ZX3uNy4TrccfYAGySet the army on them. They'll all be rounded up and in cages within 10 minutes.

While they're at it, get Starmer the firestarter too.

[joeysteele]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cbbe130f-505b-4bea-b2a9-95adf2da6e40.png

It should be definitely in my view

[smudgie]

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Hmmmm, wonder if it’s time to stock pile loo rolls.
Or should I keep my common sense head on and not let all the propaganda and imagination run away with me.:shrug:

[Zizu]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240805/b546200e320d4081280fbf0362728a6c.jpg


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[Beso]

What does thuggish minority of criminals even mean?

Are they now backing down on kiers statement?

[Cherie]

This is interesting https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240805/fa28624c412b56a05ba2b143f49405d7.jpg

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He used to be at LBC not sure who he is with now

[Mystic Mock]

You seem to be mixing up "censorship" with the law, Vanessa. You can absolutely be arrested for things you say on Twitter.

Or on here.

Especially if it's incitement, threats or harassment.

Admittedly the other stuff that people can be arrested for, for controversial comments can be pathetic.

[Mystic Mock]

This was freely shown on Sky News - from Birmingham - guy has a sword :skull:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUOwUlQWAAAAnxK?format=jpg&name=small

He has watched one too many Samurai Animes imo.:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

https://twitter.com/i_ammukhtar/status/1820480471517839768?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

These rabid racists aren’t going to be happy until they get innocent poc murdered for their agenda

That's disgusting.

How either Tate Brother aren't in Prison is beyond me.

[James]

These are the people the police need to be chasing down.

Absolute vile inhumane wankers.

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=ZX3uNy4TrccfYAGy

Don't they know that people have cameras in their doorbells?

[Mystic Mock]

Sounds like Mock is up to his usual shenanigans.

You know me.:laugh:

[Zizu]

Serious rioting in Devon Cornwall

Resources dangerously stretched

Jees


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[arista]

Good on Elon Musk
Told the PM Starmer Off


Starmer stated we must protect Muslims


Better fella Elon Musk said
"how about protecting everyone"



In the Newspapers today

[Vanessa]

Good on Elon Musk
Told the PM Starmer Off


Starmer stated we must protect Muslims


Better fella Elon Musk said
"how about protecting everyone"



In the Newspapers today

That's exactly my point.
You have to wonder why they're protecting these people.
There's a theory going round that they're UN soldiers and not asylum seekers at all.
Of course only a theory.
But with Starmer nothing would suprise me.
The man is as close to Stalin that we even got in this country.

[Ammi]

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Hmmmm, wonder if it’s time to stock pile loo rolls.
Or should I keep my common sense head on and not let all the propaganda and imagination run away with me.:shrug:

…smudgie throwing loo rolls on the streets of Britain…arrest that woman…!!!!!!…

[Oliver_W]

He has watched one too many Samurai Animes imo.:joker:

I'm not so sure, he's quite slim and seems to have some muscle definition :hehe:

[AnnieK]

There is rumblings of a planned riot tonight in Salford and the meeting place is pretty close to my office. I am hoping they all turn up, look around and think its already been trashed and just go home :laugh:

[Ammi]

There is rumblings of a planned riot tonight in Salford and the meeting place is pretty close to my office. I am hoping they all turn up, look around and think its already been trashed and just go home :laugh:

….AnnieK Woz Here…?…

[Vanessa]

Whatever you lot do, do not go in Birmingham. Masked gang with weapons hunting who they think are protesters.
But pubs/cafe/cars are under attack.
Where's the police?
At least police is there in central London.

[MTVN]

There's a lot of social media reports about planned protests on Wednesday evening. Lots of them seem targeted at legal offices who provide immigration services

[Vanessa]

There's a lot of social media reports about planned protests on Wednesday evening. Lots of them seem targeted at legal offices who provide immigration services
Is this all over UK?

[Ammi]

There's a lot of social media reports about planned protests on Wednesday evening. Lots of them seem targeted at legal offices who provide immigration services

…the hate spreading out in so many directions…

[bots]

The funny thing is that I live in Kent, where all the illegal immigrants come in, and I haven't seen or heard of any unrest in the area :laugh:

[Vanessa]

The funny thing is that I live in Kent, where all the illegal immigrants come in, and I haven't seen or heard of any unrest in the area :laugh:
That's good. A lot of the trouble seen to be up north?

[MTVN]

Is this all over UK?

In maybe 30 different towns and cities from what I've seen

They're planning it in Bristol to start outside an immigration lawyers office and then walk down a very ethnically diverse area. A counter protest has already been organised too so could get a bit ugly even though I don't expect many far right will turn up in Bristol

[Vanessa]

In maybe 30 different towns and cities from what I've seen

They're planning it in Bristol to start outside an immigration lawyers office and then walk down a very ethnically diverse area. A counter protest has already been organised too so could get a bit ugly even though I don't expect many far right will turn up in Bristol
Central London always has a very strong police presence. They have to, because tourists are there.

[joeysteele]

…the hate spreading out in so many directions…

Absolutely disgraceful.

Hate and prejudice for me are the words for this.
From this rabble of morons, but dangerous morons on the streets.
Frankly, with no excusing or even sympathy for any of them, this is really action against the Country from their own ugly hate filled agenda.

None of these criminal rioters should be on the streets anywhere.
I hope the courts dish out the very maximum of sentences.

Only one lot of people are to blame for these riots and that's the criminal rioters themselves.
No one else.
They ONLY have to be held responsible for these actions THEY have themselves CHOSEN to engage in.

I'd get into any bank accounts they have too and take out the costs of all the clearing up.
I've not a scrap of sympathy for them.
There's no excuse or defence that can be legitimately given to their despicable violent actions hitting ALL communities and towns and cities.
Not just one.
Mindless, and stark raving bonkers.

It's reported this morning they were even breaking up gravestones to throw at Police
They need locking up for some considerable time.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm not so sure, he's quite slim and seems to have some muscle definition :hehe:

:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

The funny thing is that I live in Kent, where all the illegal immigrants come in, and I haven't seen or heard of any unrest in the area :laugh:

Fingers crossed that it stays that way.:fc:

[bots]

Absolutely disgraceful.

Hate and prejudice for me are the words for this.
From this rabble of morons, but dangerous morons on the streets.
Frankly, with no excusing or even sympathy for any of them, this is really action against the Country from their own ugly hate filled agenda.

None of these criminal rioters should be on the streets anywhere.
I hope the courts dish out the very maximum of sentences.

Only one lot of people are to blame for these riots and that's the criminal rioters themselves.
No one else.
They ONLY have to be held responsible for these actions THEY have themselves CHOSEN to engage in.

I'd get into any bank accounts they have too and take out the costs of all the clearing up.
I've not a scrap of sympathy for them.
There's no excuse or defence that can be legitimately given to their despicable violent actions hitting ALL communities and towns and cities.
Not just one.
Mindless, and stark raving bonkers.

It's reported this morning they were even breaking up gravestones to throw at Police
They need locking up for some considerable time.

this has all been bubbling away since the early ukip days and the initial calls for brexit. The big difference now is that we don't have a tory government anymore and labour have given the impression that illegal immigration is the least of their concerns. People have been fed a narrative of immigration is bad for over a decade, the bubble has basically burst

[Oliver_W]

Whatever you lot do, do not go in Birmingham. Masked gang with weapons hunting who they think are protesters.
But pubs/cafe/cars are under attack.
Where's the police?
At least police is there in central London.

Things like that being left unchecked is what makes people believe in two tier policing.

[Vanessa]

Things like that being left unchecked is what makes people believe in two tier policing.

People are free to believe what they want. Riots are happening. It's a fact.

[Beso]

Whatever you lot do, do not go in Birmingham. Masked gang with weapons hunting who they think are protesters.
But pubs/cafe/cars are under attack.
Where's the police?
At least police is there in central London.

Can you post links along with these claims please vanessa.

[Vanessa]

Can you post links along with these claims please vanessa.

https://x.com/expressgbnews/status/1820552246150529491?t=liICen8uK_m4JbP0SdT4lA&s=19

[Vanessa]

Can you post links along with these claims please vanessa.

https://x.com/expressgbnews/status/1820552246150529491?t=hQIk2E8tQW2n6dt1I5wAYA&s=19

[joeysteele]

this has all been bubbling away since the early ukip days and the initial calls for brexit. The big difference now is that we don't have a tory government anymore and labour have given the impression that illegal immigration is the least of their concerns. People have been fed a narrative of immigration is bad for over a decade, the bubble has basically burst

Nothing, NOTHING at all excuses the actions of these criminal rioters.

The narrative is wrong for starters, there is NO defence for this devastating creation of fear from rioting to all communities, the residents of those communities.
Wrecking their property.
Attacking the authority with not a scrap of respect for the Police forces of the areas.

Being fed a narrative isn't confirming the narrative right.
It's no excuse for voluntary violence and disruption across a Nation.

Blame lies only with these morons taking full and freely chosen part in these riots .
Nothing and no one else is to, or should be blamed for that.
It's the rioters and any who support them either directly or by veiled excusing, justifying and defending their criminal actions against really ALL the citizens of this Country now.

[Liam-]

People are free to believe what they want. Riots are happening. It's a fact.

Yes, because your lot want to terrorize, assault and murder brown people, own it

[Quantum Boy]

this has all been bubbling away since the early ukip days and the initial calls for brexit. The big difference now is that we don't have a tory government anymore and labour have given the impression that illegal immigration is the least of their concerns. People have been fed a narrative of immigration is bad for over a decade, the bubble has basically burst

The real irony that still doesn't seem to be widely understood in "those circles", is that Brexit only made it harder for people from the EU to live and work in Britain. The type of immigrants they don't really mind "for some reason". But we have a declining population and need migration... so decreased EU movement of workers = increased immigration "from the places they're not so keen on".

And now they're kicking off lol.

Dum-dumdum-dum-dummm.

Also it's not just because Labour are showing less indication of acting than Tories - I reckon these people are hopping mad because they got themselves all excited about Farage and Reform. I said at the time, the social media hype and landscape had people hilariously believing that Reform would be the main opposition or might even get into power and they were super stoked about that. And then they got 5 seats. No matter how much the people who understand how UK elections work want to paint that as "actually a great success" for Farage, simple fact is, these mobs and hordes expected more. A lot more. So now they're feeling dejected and lashing out. Silly children.

[thesheriff443]

Whatever you lot do, do not go in Birmingham. Masked gang with weapons hunting who they think are protesters.
But pubs/cafe/cars are under attack.
Where's the police?
At least police is there in central London.

But I’ve already bought my balaclava and gloves and train ticket

[Beso]

https://x.com/expressgbnews/status/1820552246150529491?t=hQIk2E8tQW2n6dt1I5wAYA&s=19

Thank you Vanessa.

This makes it harder for them to claim they are protecting their community.

[joeysteele]

Yes, because your lot want to terrorize, assault and murder brown people, own it

That's true, extremely sadly

[Vanessa]

Thank you Vanessa.

This makes it harder for them to claim they are protecting their community.
I can understand them protecting their community. But no one should be attacking people with weapons. And that goes for both sides.

[Vanessa]

That's true, extremely sadly

I think both sides are wrong. No one should be attacking people with weapons.
Not in a civilised society.

[Beso]

That's true, extremely sadly

So you believe people who want to murder asians are Vanessa's lot....how nice of you.

Pure poison thinking.

[Vanessa]

The hard working community is stuck right in the middle of this mess.

[joeysteele]

The real irony that still doesn't seem to be widely understood in "those circles", is that Brexit only made it harder for people from the EU to live and work in Britain. The type of immigrants they don't really mind "for some reason". But we have a declining population and need migration... so decreased EU movement of workers = increased immigration "from the places they're not so keen on".

And now they're kicking off lol.

Dum-dumdum-dum-dummm.

Also it's not just because Labour are showing less indication of acting than Tories - I reckon these people are hopping mad because they got themselves all excited about Farage and Reform. I said at the time, the social media hype and landscape had people hilariously believing that Reform would be the main opposition or might even get into power and they were super stoked about that. And then they got 5 seats. No matter how much the people who understand how UK elections work want to paint that as "actually a great success" for Farage, simple fact is, these mobs and hordes expected more. A lot more. So now they're feeling dejected and lashing out. Silly children.

It really is always good when I can say I agree with you because I do take on board a lot of much you've said over my years on here.

I think above you've made incredibly strong points all through.
Needless to say I agree with it all.
Really strong post SB

Except the silly children bit.:joker:
I think children have better mindsets than these criminal rioters.
Or those who in any veiled way try to justify and defend them.

[Vanessa]

So you believe people who want to murder asians are Vabessas lot....how nice of you.

Pure poison thinking.
There's violence from both sides.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/status/1820705101129846951?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Liam-]

There's violence from both sides.

There’s braindead racist thuggery on one side and a community defending themselves, their families and their communities on the other, you’ve picked your side and it’s the one that’s going to be remembered as the instigators and the perpetrators of an attempted race war

[Beso]

Liam ignoring videos of asians beating up workmen calling them white *****.

[Cherie]

There’s braindead racist thuggery on one side and a community defending themselves, their families and their communities on the other, you’ve picked your side and it’s the one that’s going to be remembered as the instigators and the perpetrators of an attempted race war

Like you picked your side in the Hugh Edwards debate? Don't be so dramatic, Vanessa has condemned violence on both sides

[Vanessa]

Like you picked your side in the Hugh Edwards debate? Don't be so dramatic, Vanessa has condemned violence on both sides
Starmer is only focusing on protesters. What about the other side? They're just as bad.

[MTVN]

I wouldn't be too sympathetic or willing to excuse the behaviour of the Asian crowds in Birmingham yesterday. Fair enough that they feel very threatened by recent events but given that the reports of a far right rally there were false there is no excuse for them then acting threateningly to random pub goers, a Sky news camera crew and an LBC reporter. That's not defending your community

[Beso]

FAO Liam ....

https://youtu.be/GZSBjX5gWPQ?si=r0RZpXEQr17_n0AM

[MTVN]

Top post on the Birmingham reddit atm is some wise words from a local Muslim

Some disgusting videos are circulating of Muslim yobs in Bordersley Green/Yardley being thuggish.

The antics like dangerous driving endanger everyone but swarming a pub and marching in large groups is playing into narratives that justify the senseless violence we've seen so far.

Same thugs, different tribe.

Hopefully the rest of us remember our friends of all races and look after our neighbours. Looking forward to this period being firmly behind us- though tensions and living conditions seem to have been ignored for so long I'm not sure where the solution will come from.

Peace all and thanks for keeping our city so vibrant and friendly.

- a local Muslim

https://www.reddit.com/r/brum/comments/1ekyve7/apologies_from_a_muslim_brummie/

[Cherie]

Starmer is only focusing on protesters. What about the other side? They're just as bad.

His government will need to start sorting out the asylum backlog, the mental health of those in hotels must be completely shot and now they have the added worry that there hotels might be attacked, its time to reduce the backlog, let those who can work and send the remainder back from whence they came, if they are seen to be doing this it will go someway to restoring order, at the moment I can only see words and no actions but its early days

[Cherie]

Top post on the Birmingham reddit atm is some wise words from a local Muslim

:clap1: we need to see more posts like this, and the media should focus on the large number of counter protesters who far outweigh the violent ones, but that isn't a story is it..

[joeysteele]

I'm pleased to learn that someone on Facebook has been charged over Facebook posts deemed to be inciting racial hatred.

GOOD.

This should be looked at more, get at the armchair racists too.

This rioting started from lies and misinformation against Muslims.
It was lies .

Anyone supporting or defending these mindless rioters are just helping enable them.
Good ALL social media outlets should be being looked at very carefully as to what is posted and by whom.

[Vanessa]

I'm pleased to learn that someone on Facebook has been charged over Facebook posts deemed to be inciting racial hatred.

GOOD.

This should be looked at more, get at the armchair racists too.

This rioting started from lies and misinformation against Muslims.
It was lies .

Anyone supporting or defending these mindless rioters are just helping enable them.
Good ALL social media outlets should be being looked at very carefully as to what is posted and by whom.
Racism shouldn't be tolerated and that goes for all communities.

[Vanessa]

:clap1: we need to see more posts like this, and the media should focus on the large number of counter protesters who far outweigh the violent ones, but that isn't a story is it..
The problem is, peaceful protesters and violent ones are being tarred with the same brush.

[Vanessa]

His government will need to start sorting out the asylum backlog, the mental health of those in hotels must be completely shot and now they have the added worry that there hotels might be attacked, its time to reduce the backlog, let those who can work and send the remainder back from whence they came, if they are seen to be doing this it will go someway to restoring order, at the moment I can only see words and no actions but its early days
I agree they need to work. Leaving these jobless people free to roam the streets ain't a good thing.

[Beso]

joeysteele

You are also part of the problem, thinking every tom dick and harry out on the streets wants to kill black people. You've even labelled Vanessa in beside them.

Its left wing attitudes like that, that will never see this thing seen from a truthfull angle.

Have a think about yourself and your own actions before key boarding from the safety of your own home

[Vanessa]

I wouldn't be too sympathetic or willing to excuse the behaviour of the Asian crowds in Birmingham yesterday. Fair enough that they feel very threatened by recent events but given that the reports of a far right rally there were false there is no excuse for them then acting threateningly to random


pub goers, a Sky news camera crew and an LBC reporter. That's not defending your community
:worship:

[Quantum Boy]

The problem is, peaceful protesters and violent ones are being tarred with the same brush.

Once protests have descended into rioting then the peaceful protest is over. You simply can't do it until order has been restored, and any attempt to is really just participating in the civil unrest.

No one should be arrested unless they're being violent or encouraging violence -- however there's no moral claim to be being "peaceful".

[Vanessa]

joeysteele

You are also part of the problem, thinking every tom dick and harry out on the streets wants to kill black people. You've even labelled Vanessa in beside them.

Its left wing attitudes like that, that will never see this thing seen from a truthfull angle.

Have a think about yourself and your own actions before key boarding from the safety of your own home
There's clearly also racism aimed at british people. I wish there wasn't.

[smudgie]

There’s braindead racist thuggery on one side and a community defending themselves, their families and their communities on the other, you’ve picked your side and it’s the one that’s going to be remembered as the instigators and the perpetrators of an attempted race war

Sums it up for me.

[Vanessa]

joeysteele

You are also part of the problem, thinking every tom dick and harry out on the streets wants to kill black people. You've even labelled Vanessa in beside them

Its left wing attitudes like that, that will never see this thing seen from a truthfull angle

Have a think about yourself and your own actions before key boarding from the safety of your own home


Once protests have descended into rioting then the peaceful protest is over. You simply can't do it until order has been restored, and any attempt to is really just participating in the civil unrest.

No one should be arrested unless they're being violent or encouraging violence -- however there's no moral claim to be being "peaceful".
But peaceful protesting should be allowed as long as it's not violent.

[Liam-]

There's clearly also racism aimed at british people. I wish there wasn't.

Nonsense

[Beso]

Nonsense

Ignorant to the truth..

[Vanessa]

No one should be getting a free pass to roaming the streets with machetes and hammers.

[Quantum Boy]

But peaceful protesting should be allowed as long as it's not violent.

It should be allowed so long as it's not violent but once it's turned violent you can't have a successful peaceful protest alongside the civil unrest. You have to accept that it's turned violent and wait for order to be restored before you continue peaceful action, otherwise it's quite plainly not peaceful action.

On top of that, a good proportion of the supposed peaceful action wasn't peaceful in the first place. Intimidation and aggressive tactics are not peaceful protest just because they don't involve actually getting physical. I haven't seen much in the way of genuinely peaceful protest at any point over the past few days.

[Cherie]

Labour are going to be a **** show :facepalm:

Jess Phillips has been accused of “making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing and intimidating members of the media”, after gangs of men in balaclavas turned out in Birmingham on Monday night.

Former home secretary James Cleverly called for the home office minister to “think about the consequences” of her words after the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley tweeted about violent scenes in her constituency.

Large groups of men, some sporting Palestinian flags, gathered outside a mosque in the Bordesley Green area after rumours circulated that the far right were planning on targeting it.

Footage later in the evening showed a number of incidents involving the masked men, some attacking passing cars and in another incident setting upon a man outside a pub.

A Sky News van was attacked by a man with a knife as the TV crew attempted to leave the area after being told they were not welcome, reporter Becky Johnson later said. Ms Johnson was interrupted by a protester on a motorbike who swore and made rude gestures at the camera while attempting to deliver a live report in Birmingham.

Ms Phillips suggested that the rumours of the far right gathering had been deliberately spread in a bid to cause trouble.

“To be clear, all day rumours have been spread that a far right group were coming and it was done entirely to get Muslim people out on the street to drive this content”, the home office minister tweeted. “It is misinformation being spread to create trouble.”



Responding to a second clip of a man in a balaclava swearing at the reporter, Ms Phillips said: “These people came to this location because it has been spread

that racists were coming to attack them. This misinformation was spread entirely to create this content.”

Mr Cleverly criticised her for the comments, writing on social media: “Home Office ministers should not be making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing, and intimidating members of the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jess-phillips-accused-of-making-excuses-for-masked-gang-in-birmingham-as-cars-smashed-and-man-attacked/ar-AA1oiTPY?ocid=BingNewsSerp


you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

[Vanessa]

It should be allowed so long as it's not violent but once it's turned violent you can't have a successful peaceful protest alongside the civil unrest. You have to accept that it's turned violent and wait for order to be restored before you continue peaceful action, otherwise it's quite plainly not peaceful action.

On top of that, a good proportion of the supposed peaceful action wasn't peaceful in the first place. Intimidation and aggressive tactics are not peaceful protest just because they don't involve actually getting physical. I haven't seen much in the way of genuinely peaceful protest at any point over the past few days.

Yes anyone being violent needs to be arrested. Totally agree with that.

[Vanessa]

Labour are going to be a **** show :facepalm:

Jess Phillips has been accused of “making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing and intimidating members of the media”, after gangs of men in balaclavas turned out in Birmingham on Monday night.

Former home secretary James Cleverly called for the home office minister to “think about the consequences” of her words after the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley tweeted about violent scenes in her constituency.

Large groups of men, some sporting Palestinian flags, gathered outside a mosque in the Bordesley Green area after rumours circulated that the far right were planning on targeting it.

Footage later in the evening showed a number of incidents involving the masked men, some attacking passing cars and in another incident setting upon a man outside a pub.

A Sky News van was attacked by a man with a knife as the TV crew attempted to leave the area after being told they were not welcome, reporter Becky Johnson later said. Ms Johnson was interrupted by a protester on a motorbike who swore and made rude gestures at the camera while attempting to deliver a live report in Birmingham.

Ms Phillips suggested that the rumours of the far right gathering had been deliberately spread in a bid to cause trouble.

“To be clear, all day rumours have been spread that a far right group were coming and it was done entirely to get Muslim people out on the street to drive this content”, the home office minister tweeted. “It is misinformation being spread to create trouble.”



Responding to a second clip of a man in a balaclava swearing at the reporter, Ms Phillips said: “These people came to this location because it has been spread

that racists were coming to attack them. This misinformation was spread entirely to create this content.”

Mr Cleverly criticised her for the comments, writing on social media: “Home Office ministers should not be making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing, and intimidating members of the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jess-phillips-accused-of-making-excuses-for-masked-gang-in-birmingham-as-cars-smashed-and-man-attacked/ar-AA1oiTPY?ocid=BingNewsSerp
I was so annoyed by that. Did they need to wait armed to the teeth?
And she's condoning it :facepalm:

[Quantum Boy]

Labour are going to be a **** show :facepalm:

Jess Phillips has been accused of “making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing and intimidating members of the media”, after gangs of men in balaclavas turned out in Birmingham on Monday night.

Former home secretary James Cleverly called for the home office minister to “think about the consequences” of her words after the Labour MP for Birmingham Yardley tweeted about violent scenes in her constituency.

Large groups of men, some sporting Palestinian flags, gathered outside a mosque in the Bordesley Green area after rumours circulated that the far right were planning on targeting it.

Footage later in the evening showed a number of incidents involving the masked men, some attacking passing cars and in another incident setting upon a man outside a pub.

A Sky News van was attacked by a man with a knife as the TV crew attempted to leave the area after being told they were not welcome, reporter Becky Johnson later said. Ms Johnson was interrupted by a protester on a motorbike who swore and made rude gestures at the camera while attempting to deliver a live report in Birmingham.

Ms Phillips suggested that the rumours of the far right gathering had been deliberately spread in a bid to cause trouble.

“To be clear, all day rumours have been spread that a far right group were coming and it was done entirely to get Muslim people out on the street to drive this content”, the home office minister tweeted. “It is misinformation being spread to create trouble.”



Responding to a second clip of a man in a balaclava swearing at the reporter, Ms Phillips said: “These people came to this location because it has been spread

that racists were coming to attack them. This misinformation was spread entirely to create this content.”

Mr Cleverly criticised her for the comments, writing on social media: “Home Office ministers should not be making excuses for masked men shouting, abusing, and intimidating members of the media.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/jess-phillips-accused-of-making-excuses-for-masked-gang-in-birmingham-as-cars-smashed-and-man-attacked/ar-AA1oiTPY?ocid=BingNewsSerp


you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

It's all pointless distraction though, like I said earlier in the thread. Like building a town on a floodplain, seeing it destroyed by floods, and simply blaming the rain.

The people out being violent are not thinkers. They're just angry, reactive mobs. You might as well blame a tornado or an earthquake. There are far more sinister forces at work -- the people who haven't lifted a finger but are creating the social environment that leads to unrest. Your Farages, your Tommy Robbos, the people who ignored grooming gangs, various people in power and government, now and over the course of many years.

I know people are big on individual responsibility. I just don't have that faith in most of any population. "A person is smart. People are dumb."

Hive minds and mob mentality are a powerful and scary thing.

[Livia]

Just watched the video of a lone white man attacked outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Birmingham. The place was surrounded and people had to barricade the doors. The gang was Muslim, the police did not attend.

[Cherie]

It's all pointless distraction though, like I said earlier in the thread. Like building a town on a floodplain, seeing it destroyed by floods, and simply blaming the rain.

The people out being violent are not thinkers. They're just angry, reactive mobs. You might as well blame a tornado or an earthquake. There are far more sinister forces at work -- the people who haven't lifted a finger but are creating the social environment that leads to unrest. Your Farages, your Tommy Robbos, the people who ignored grooming gangs, various people in power and government, now and over the course of many years.

I know people are big on individual responsibility. I just don't have that faith in most of any population. "A person is smart. People are dumb."

Hive minds and mob mentality are a powerful and scary thing.

You are right it all you say, that said as a Minister she should have been asking where the police were given there was information the Far Right were going to turn up, not condone it including a gun imitating a guy shooting at the camera, more fuel to the fire I am afraid, you actually begin to wonder what is going on when the people in power seem incapable of dousing the flames but rather adding to them

[Vanessa]

Just watched the video of a lone white man attacked outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Birmingham. The place was surrounded and people had to barricade the doors. The gang was Muslim, the police did not attend.
That's exactly the problem. Police only come over is protesters are involved. Otherwise they're not interested.

[Beso]

You are right it all you say, that said as a Minister she should have been asking where the police were given there was information the Far Right were going to turn up, not condone it including a gun imitating a guy shooting at the camera, more fuel to the fire I am afraid, you actually begin to wonder what is going on when the people in power seem incapable of dousing the flames but rather adding to them




Keep their eyes on a race war, hoping they dont do the sensible and come together for a revolution.

[bots]

Nobody in their right mind condones rioters from every side, but it doesn't change fundamental facts. A small majority of the UK don't want immigration. They are fed stories about illegal immigration every day of the week. When a new government comes in that got there on the back of a tiny percentage of the popular vote ( much less than voted for brexit) and that new government is seen as sympathetic to immigrants over their own population, it is a recipe for unrest.

Those are undeniable facts

[Vanessa]

Nobody in their right mind condones rioters from every side, but it doesn't change fundamental facts. A small majority of the UK don't want immigration. They are fed stories about illegal immigration every day of the week. When a new government comes in that got there on the back of a tiny percentage of the popular vote ( much less than voted for brexit) and that new government is seen as sympathetic to immigrants over their own population, it is a recipe for unrest.

Those are undeniable facts

They are definitely getting preferential treatment.

[Liam-]

They are definitely getting preferential treatment.

Nonsense

[Beso]

That's the thing though, you would expect a government to be intelligent and savvy enough to know what bots just said, they either simply aren't, or simply rubbing the right wings nose in **** merely to spite them by going the exact opposite of the way things regarding unmonitored immigration was going to start going..heck we even paid rwanda up front...will labour try and re coup that much needed money? Will they heck as like

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1820726406428409896?t=qC8i2pTFhghTBBpa-SHN_A&s=19
This guy speaks a lot of sense. I like him a lot.

[Livia]

Nonsense

Not the first time your posts have been nonsense.

Maybe you think the Muslim gangs would supportive of you and your sexuality... Bless...

[Livia]

Nobody in their right mind condones rioters from every side, but it doesn't change fundamental facts. A small majority of the UK don't want immigration. They are fed stories about illegal immigration every day of the week. When a new government comes in that got there on the back of a tiny percentage of the popular vote ( much less than voted for brexit) and that new government is seen as sympathetic to immigrants over their own population, it is a recipe for unrest.

Those are undeniable facts

I agree with all of that.

[Liam-]

Not the first time your posts have been nonsense.

Maybe you think the Muslim gangs would supportive of you and your sexuality... Bless...

I’ve never been abused by a Muslim for my sexuality, plenty of white ‘Christian’ people have been abusive towards me for it though, that shtick really doesn’t work as well as you hope it does

[Quantum Boy]

That's the thing though, you would expect a government to be intelligent and savvy enough to know what bots just said, they either simply aren't, or simply rubbing the right wings nose in **** merely to spite them by going the exact opposite of the way things regarding unmonitored immigration was going to start going..heck we even paid rwanda up front...will labour try and re coup that much needed money? Will they heck as like

The government (and previous government) have all variety of experts advising them, sociologists, social psychologists, historians, political science experts with vast experience... when they play dumb (as they so often do) there's absolutely no doubt that they're playing. Of course they know. Everything they put out is tailored for public consumption with a goal in mind, the conversations going on behind closed doors will be completely different.

Sort of like TiBB staff forum.

[Quantum Boy]

I’ve never been abused by a Muslim for my sexuality, plenty of white ‘Christian’ people have been abusive towards me for it though, that shtick really doesn’t work as well as you hope it does

I mean it's fairly evident that a lot of devout Muslims will be against homosexuality but yes the thing people like to ignore is that the fundamentalist Christians have exactly the same attitudes - the issue is hardline religion in general, not any specific religion.

We've just, in most of Europe, gotten used to our Christianity being much more liberal and soft than it once was. For now. Do a bit of digging at any friendly Church Group and you'll find that their opinions remain largely the same as ever, they just don't share them as openly. We're accustomed to fluffy Christianity, and conveniently forget the inquisitions, conquests and crusades.

The only meaningful difference is that Islam is a newer religion than Christianity.

[joeysteele]

I have been 100% consistent on here on this.

I hold no one else responsible other than the morons who started this whole criminal rioting scenario on misinformation and lies.
They alone are responsible for the original violence carried out by them and against the Police too.

If I'm prejudiced at all, I'm only prejudiced against prejudice.
So I'm not going to take lectures from anyone that possibly holds any prejudice of any kind.

These rioters are criminals and terrorising not only their warped agenda target.
However causing fear and distress to all the area of the communities of towns, cities THEY THEMSELVES CHOOSE to riot in .
Then breaking the law and attacking the Police, the upholders of the law.

No blame can or should go elsewhere in my view.
I've never once veered from that position and the sooner these underseving of any defence or support are hopefully locked away and off the UKs streets the better.

[Beso]

The government (and previous government) have all variety of experts advising them, sociologists, social psychologists, historians, political science experts with vast experience... when they play dumb (as they so often do) there's absolutely no doubt that they're playing. Of course they know. Everything they put out is tailored for public consumption with a goal in mind, the conversations going on behind closed doors will be completely different.

Sort of like TiBB staff forum.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/default_content/12610177.mass-immigration-political-gain-says-adviser/

[Liam-]

I mean it's fairly evident that a lot of devout Muslims will be against homosexuality but yes the thing people like to ignore is that the fundamentalist Christians have exactly the same attitudes - the issue is hardline religion in general, not any specific religion.

We've just, in most of Europe, gotten used to our Christianity being much more liberal and soft than it once was. For now. Do a bit of digging at any friendly Church Group and you'll find that their opinions remain largely the same as ever, they just don't share them as openly. We're accustomed to fluffy Christianity, and conveniently forget the inquisitions, conquests and crusades.

The only meaningful difference is that Islam is a newer religion than Christianity.



Christian extremists and Muslim extremists have exactly the same beliefs, just wrapped up in different books, but one is seen as worse than the other because of the colour of their skin, when in reality on most subjects the both sets of weirdos would be hand in hand screaming for the extinction for my community

[bots]

I mean it's fairly evident that a lot of devout Muslims will be against homosexuality but yes the thing people like to ignore is that the fundamentalist Christians have exactly the same attitudes - the issue is hardline religion in general, not any specific religion.

We've just, in most of Europe, gotten used to our Christianity being much more liberal and soft than it once was. For now. Do a bit of digging at any friendly Church Group and you'll find that their opinions remain largely the same as ever, they just don't share them as openly. We're accustomed to fluffy Christianity, and conveniently forget the inquisitions, conquests and crusades.

The only meaningful difference is that Islam is a newer religion than Christianity.


You only need to look at america to see what lies just beneath the surface regarding religion. Those fundamentalist christian groups have been working for decades to create a power base and when Trump came along and said, if you make me president I will do it for you. This is what happens

[Quantum Boy]

Christian extremists and Muslim extremists have exactly the same beliefs, just wrapped up in different books, but one is seen as worse than the other because of the colour of their skin, when in reality on most subjects the both sets of weirdos would be hand in hand screaming for the extinction for my community

I think another part of the problem is that "for some reason" (we know the reason of course) people seem to be totally unwilling to accept that moderate Muslims exist and it is, in fact, the majority of Muslims. There's a LARGER proportion of more hardline Muslims than Christians (in the UK at least, I'm not so sure about the US) but the majority are not.

It reminds me of the clip that goes around of an old documentary where a working-class white family and a Muslim family are put together to have dinner in each other's homes, and the white mum is absolutely fascinated to see that they have "a PlayStation and Sky!" and that the house "Doesn't even smell like Muslims" :skull: :skull:.

[Livia]

Most people who've grown up and lived in areas where Christians (and definitely Jews) are the minority, don't need to be told that most Muslims are moderate.

[arista]

Just watched the video of a lone white man attacked outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Birmingham. The place was surrounded and people had to barricade the doors. The gang was Muslim, the police did not attend.


Yes that should be shown on BBC and ITV news


I posted the Tweet on this thread

[Quantum Boy]

Most people who've grown up and lived in areas where Christians (and definitely Jews) are the minority, don't need to be told that most Muslims are moderate.

And you get race riots in Southport. Demographics below.

https://i.imgur.com/L4djexE.png

[Cherie]

Most people who've grown up and lived in areas where Christians (and definitely Jews) are the minority, don't need to be told that most Muslims are moderate.

True

[The Slim Reaper]

Disappointing to see people trying to back pedal. Stay masks off. Keep that energy.

[Vanessa]

Yes that should be shown on BBC and ITV news


I posted the Tweet on this thread

Police did not show up and sky news never mentioned it was a gang of muslims.

[Oliver_W]

There’s braindead racist thuggery on one side and a community defending themselves, their families and their communities on the other, l

Why are you so eager to excuse one side's racist thuggery?

Those standing around armed, blocking the roundabout, and shouting Allahu Ackbar weren't defending anyone against anything.

Nor were the instances of white-bashing.

It's only self-defence when it's in response to an actual and immediate physical threat or attack.

[arista]

Police did not show up and sky news never mentioned it was a gang of muslims.


It was all very fast

[Cherie]

Nobody in their right mind condones rioters from every side, but it doesn't change fundamental facts. A small majority of the UK don't want immigration. They are fed stories about illegal immigration every day of the week. When a new government comes in that got there on the back of a tiny percentage of the popular vote ( much less than voted for brexit) and that new government is seen as sympathetic to immigrants over their own population, it is a recipe for unrest.

Those are undeniable facts

How dare you, you must pick a side..... its playground politics, pick a side....let there be no nuance you are on one side or the other

[Vanessa]

Why are you so eager to excuse one side's racist thuggery?

Those standing around armed, blocking the roundabout, and shouting Allahu Ackbar weren't defending anyone against anything.

Nor were the instances of white-bashing.

It's only self-defence when it's in response to an actual and immediate physical threat or attack.
That is exactly my point. Thank you :clap1:

[Cherie]

you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

Anyone got an answer to this?

[Cherie]

Why are you so eager to excuse one side's racist thuggery?

Those standing around armed, blocking the roundabout, and shouting Allahu Ackbar weren't defending anyone against anything.

Nor were the instances of white-bashing.

It's only self-defence when it's in response to an actual and immediate physical threat or attack.


English White man bad, rest of the world good, honestly Oliver why do I have to explain this to you :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

Anyone got an answer to this?

How about this for an answer:

Media companies have regurgitated these anti-Muslim/immigration talking points, often fed to them by politicians, so why would they be open to the media coming into their communities now, just to rubber neck at the violence?

Jonathan Ashworth made a completely racist comment about sending people back to Bangladesh (as was Starmer, by the way) in the run up to the election, and you wonder why he might not be welcome?

[Oliver_W]

How about this for an answer:

Media companies have regurgitated these anti-Muslim/immigration talking points, often fed to them by politicians, so why would they be open to the media coming into their communities now, just to rubber neck at the violence?

Having entirely peaceful demonstrations broadcast would be good PR, no? Chasing reporters away spins a different narrative.

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/GBNEWS/status/1820773252890800471?t=QjNdCD7tOYEfYkuIMiVRgA&s=19
The owner of the pub in Birmingham interviewed. There were kids in there as well and they were terrified.

[Quantum Boy]

entirely peaceful demonstrations

Can you describe what's involved in those in the context of the last week.

Surely, surely you can't be describing angry mostly-half-drunk morons shouting about how those three poor young girls wouldn't have been killed "if it wasn't for all the immigrants" as a peaceful demonstration.

Honestly I mostly try not to think about how those girls deaths have been exploited for this. It's just ****ing horrendous.

[Vanessa]

you have to ask why are the media not welcome, Sky and LBC both run out of areas now? Jonathan Ashworth was also told he was not welcome while campaigning they have a problem there that needs addressing unless we are saying some areas are out of bounds for some people?

Anyone got an answer to this?
They can't go there. They've been chased out. They slashed the reporter's tyres. And they understandably had to leave.
It shouldn't be like this!

[Liam-]

They can't go there. They've been chased out. They slashed the reporter's tyres. And they understandably had to leave.
It shouldn't be like this!

The racists are actively attacking the press, any word on that?

[Ammi]

1820506183297343819

[Beso]

All muslim houses I've been in dont watch british news channels.

[Oliver_W]

Can you describe what's involved in those in the context of the last week.

Surely, surely you can't be describing angry mostly-half-drunk morons shouting about how those three poor young girls wouldn't have been killed "if it wasn't for all the immigrants" as a peaceful demonstration.

Honestly I mostly try not to think about how those girls deaths have been exploited for this. It's just ****ing horrendous.

No, I'm talking about the demonstrations mentioned in the post I had quoted. The ones from which reporters were chased.

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/1820775810846081327?t=dQbQZLeCYgmokGkNtGtrIQ&s=19
In Bolton.

[Oliver_W]

The racists are actively attacking the press, any word on that?

Yes, that's what she said.