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The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 05:16 PM
It's all very easy criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

Slim that post you said was the same old racist nonsense...

Fancy discussing the further points I made about jeffrey?

Parm, I've re-read your post, and I don't know what Jeffrey bit you're referring to. If you can explain, then of course I'll have the convo with you.

Liam-
07-08-2024, 05:19 PM
https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1821119546247266794?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Two tier policing is a myth

MTVN
07-08-2024, 05:26 PM
All quiet on the Western front in Bristol so far. Cycled past some of the sites where trouble is rumoured but no signs of anything yet although it is eerily quiet around. Police seem to have dismissed a lot of rumours but they are expecting something outside a legal office in Old Market so all the businesses round there have been boarded up all day which is quite depressing on what is normally a very vibrant street. Also going to be a large counter protest there.

Sad to see a lot of people of ethnic background asking if the city is safe for them and having to second guess all their movements. I've had a few colleagues say for the first time in their lives they've questioned whether they should go out as usual as well - speaking in general terms not just specifically when protests are planned.

Cherie
07-08-2024, 05:45 PM
All quiet on the Western front in Bristol so far. Cycled past some of the sites where trouble is rumoured but no signs of anything yet although it is eerily quiet around. Police seem to have dismissed a lot of rumours but they are expecting something outside a legal office in Old Market so all the businesses round there have been boarded up all day which is quite depressing on what is normally a very vibrant street. Also going to be a large counter protest there.

Sad to see a lot of people of ethnic background asking if the city is safe for them and having to second guess all their movements. I've had a few colleagues say for the first time in their lives they've questioned whether they should go out as usual as well - speaking in general terms not just specifically when protests are planned.

Horrible, just watched the news with shops boarded up and restaurants closed, well done in shutting down businesses who are just getting back on their feet after covid lockdowns....twats

arista
07-08-2024, 05:45 PM
1821081813860671503

:love:

#TwoTier




Good Point Oliver

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 05:52 PM
Horrible, just watched the news with shops boarded up and restaurants closed, well done in shutting down businesses who are just getting back on their feet after covid lockdowns....twats

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOHhyYy3VerPR8MjPU6gyvPlFO7ts9A rlxyw&s

Cherie
07-08-2024, 05:56 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOHhyYy3VerPR8MjPU6gyvPlFO7ts9A rlxyw&s

lol, makes a change from bigot or racist I suppose which has got quite the outing this week from you and your friends

You know naff all about me so who cares

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 06:02 PM
lol, makes a change from bigot or racist I suppose which has got quite the outing this week from you and your friends

You know naff all about me so who cares

If the cap fits, you should definitely wear it. After saying you stood by all of your posts in this thread, it's nice to see you now try and move towards humanity a little.

Zizu
07-08-2024, 06:06 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/13/88258697-13718769-Businesses_are_boarded_up_in_North_Finchley_North_ London_today_a-a-37_1723035385774.jpg

[Businesses are boarded up in North Finchley, North London,
today ahead of planned protests]


Blimey !!


Its only a few days ago a few in here were advising us to basically get a grip , that we were overreacting

Now as things stand only TWO police forces are tonight NOT expecting serious disturbances


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GoldHeart
07-08-2024, 06:07 PM
Horrible, just watched the news with shops boarded up and restaurants closed, well done in shutting down businesses who are just getting back on their feet after covid lockdowns....twats

It made me think of COVID aswell, I hope the idiots rioting are pleased with themselves...that they've caused all this distress and fear :bored: .

bots
07-08-2024, 06:10 PM
it's 1 or 2 streets in a few towns

thesheriff443
07-08-2024, 06:16 PM
it's 1 or 2 streets in a few towns

That’s right it’s not all out war zones

Zizu
07-08-2024, 06:20 PM
Maybe they don't see the behaviour as bad?


Well I have heard reports that many asian males regard young, English white females as almost sub-human .. basically slags and easy prey .
They see our young women around every town / city and on telly every night getting drunk abroad and actively hunting for guys ( complete strangers) to sleep with .


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Cherie
07-08-2024, 06:29 PM
If the cap fits, you should definitely wear it. After saying you stood by all of your posts in this thread, it's nice to see you now try and move towards humanity a little.

Cap fits, masks off, any other clothes based analogy's for my consumption :pipe: I have always been on the side of humanity, I am unfortunately not as saintly as you, and probably never will be thank the Lawd!

GoldHeart
07-08-2024, 06:33 PM
Cap fits, masks off, any other clothes based analogy's for my consumption :pipe: I have always been on the side of humanity, I am unfortunately not as saintly as you, and probably never will be thank the Lawd!

Cherie out looting with her machete :worry: lol .

Cherie
07-08-2024, 06:33 PM
Cherie out looting with her machete :worry: lol .

Just bagged myself a nice pair of Nikes :hehe:

Cherie
07-08-2024, 06:35 PM
Well I have heard reports that many asian males regard young, English white females as almost sub-human .. basically slags and easy prey .
They see our young women around every town / city and on telly every night getting drunk abroad and actively hunting for guys ( complete strangers) to sleep with .


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Is this what your daughters did Zizu? I have know alot of young ladies and none of them are as you describe

Beso
07-08-2024, 06:37 PM
Parm, I've re-read your post, and I don't know what Jeffrey bit you're referring to. If you can explain, then of course I'll have the convo with you.

Jeffrey starmers. Sounds close enough to jeffrey dahmer to me.

My early nickname for him for things to come.

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 06:54 PM
Cap fits, masks off, any other clothes based analogy's for my consumption :pipe: I have always been on the side of humanity, I am unfortunately not as saintly as you, and probably never will be thank the Lawd!

How about flannel? As in load of? More of a material, granted, but I think it's about as close as I can get.

You don't have to be as saintly as me, you should aim for a more achievable goal, like not being a "concerned citizen."

thesheriff443
07-08-2024, 06:55 PM
Is this what your daughters did Zizu? I have know alot of young ladies and none of them are as you describe

You highlighted his post but didn’t read it
He said they see our daughters

Livia
07-08-2024, 07:01 PM
Cap fits, masks off, any other clothes based analogy's for my consumption :pipe: I have always been on the side of humanity, I am unfortunately not as saintly as you, and probably never will be thank the Lawd!

Everyone knows who and what you are Cherie. Well, most of us...

arista
07-08-2024, 07:03 PM
Many places have Counter protestors


Like Bristol.


Also Harrow

Also Liverpool

Cherie
07-08-2024, 07:09 PM
You highlighted his post but didn’t read it
He said they see our daughters

Well I have heard reports that many asian males regard young, English white females as almost sub-human .. basically slags and easy prey .
They see our young women around every town / city and on telly every night getting drunk abroad and actively hunting for guys ( complete strangers) to sleep with .

No he didnt

Cherie
07-08-2024, 07:10 PM
Everyone knows who and what you are Cherie. Well, most of us...


Thank you Liv

thesheriff443
07-08-2024, 07:15 PM
Well I have heard reports that many asian males regard young, English white females as almost sub-human .. basically slags and easy prey .
They see our young women around every town / city and on telly every night getting drunk abroad and actively hunting for guys ( complete strangers) to sleep with .

No he didnt

Yes he didn’t say daughters he say they see our young women
Not that he sees our young women like that

He wasn’t talking about himself so why did you ask if that’s what his daughters did?

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 07:20 PM
Jeffrey starmers. Sounds close enough to jeffrey dahmer to me.

My early nickname for him for things to come.

Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

Well, if you've read any of my posts, you'll know I'm not now, nor will I ever be, a fan of Starmer. That said, I don't see what he's done wrong.

I can pretty much guarantee he's been in contact with all of the families, and I would guess photo ops in the present climate would only antagonise the situation further, and this is right in the heat of what was happening over the weekend.

I don't know really know anything about these suffering families, but I did see a post on X from one of the little girls fathers, and he doesn't support the rioters.

As for Starmers phrasing, there is no issue whatsoever as far as I'm concerned.

Things do get a bit murky for me, because I understand the financial despair of the rioters, but not the racism part. Britain has left people behind. Badly. I've said it before, but Corbyn was the last hope for this country before things got really bleak, and here we are. Not because he's an unimpeachable dude, but because he's the only politician who actually wanted to begin to address the inequality, and that's why he was falsely smeared into oblivion. We had an option to address the problem, and we didn't.


My way of looking at the situation would be to hold those with power to account, the far right way, is to blame foreigners and immigrants for everything. Bit like a matador waving the red flag in front of the bull. It's all misdirection aimed to shield the government from scrutiny. Now that the country is really fcuked, we've seen both lab and Tories use the language of blaming immigrants, because they are not interested in the in doing the right thing, instead they mouth platitudes about "tough choices" and take it out on those with the least in society, rather than asking those with the most to take the hit, for once.

Norway has a sovereign wealth fund of over a trillion dollars, which they've built from taxing energy companies at 78%. They use that money to subside bills for it's population, and investing in infrastructure rather than cutting more and more services every time we get a new government.

Osbourne was on TV the other day praising Rachel Reeves for continuing his austerity, saying this is the exact budget he would be implementing. We've run out of things to cut, so the only way the country get's moving is with investment, and that isn't happening anytime soon.

Beso
07-08-2024, 07:28 PM
It was a nice read Slim I'm all chatted out though. Good night.

jet
07-08-2024, 07:34 PM
How about flannel? As in load of? More of a material, granted, but I think it's about as close as I can get.

You don't have to be as saintly as me, you should aim for a more achievable goal, like not being a "concerned citizen."

Who are you to judge anyone when your idol Corbyn refused to name Hamas and the IRA as terrorists; indeed he has referred to them as friends on occasion.
You are not fit to lick Cherie’s new Nikes. :notimpressed:

Cherie
07-08-2024, 07:42 PM
Yes he didn’t say daughters he say they see our young women
Not that he sees our young women like that

He wasn’t talking about himself so why did you ask if that’s what his daughters did?

I wondered because that seems to be his experience? Its not my experience

thesheriff443
07-08-2024, 07:48 PM
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I wondered because that seems to be his experience? Its not my experience

In this instance he was talking about a majority of Asian men

It’s well know Asian and Muslim men see white women nothing more than piece s of meat.

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 07:51 PM
Who are you to judge anyone when your idol Corbyn refused to name Hamas and the IRA as terrorists; indeed he has referred to them as friends on occasion.
You are not fit to lick Cherie’s new Nikes. :notimpressed:

Cherie has others to lick her nikes for her. Get that tongue lubricated, big man.

It's not smart to label anyone you're trying to negotiate with as terrorists, and any weirdo with a few ridges on their grey matter understands this fact. He used the language of friendship in Parliament 15 years ago, to encourage peace talks, and has since said that he regrets it. I personally don't think he should have retracted it, but we are in a weirdo country.

Zizu
07-08-2024, 08:08 PM
Is this what your daughters did Zizu? I have know alot of young ladies and none of them are as you describe


I haven’t said anything of the sort




I just described how they are regarded by MANY male asians. !

Surely you’ve seem how thousand of English girls behave every night in the evenings plus the holiday programs on telly

Obviously our daughter was brought up well


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Zizu
07-08-2024, 08:10 PM
Well I have heard reports that many asian males regard young, English white females as almost sub-human .. basically slags and easy prey .
They see our young women around every town / city and on telly every night getting drunk abroad and actively hunting for guys ( complete strangers) to sleep with .

No he didnt



I couldn’t make it any clearer ..

Its a matter of perception .. they are perceived as being worthless as they have no respect for themselves


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Zizu
07-08-2024, 08:10 PM
Yes he didn’t say daughters he say they see our young women
Not that he sees our young women like that

He wasn’t talking about himself so why did you ask if that’s what his daughters did?


Yes

I am also confused


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Cherie
07-08-2024, 08:11 PM
I haven’t said anything of the sort




I just described how they are regarded by MANY male asians. !

Surely you’ve seem how thousand of English girls behave every night in the evenings plus the holiday programs on telly

Obviously our daughter was brought up well


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No I haven't seen thousands of young women badly behaving and hunting for men if I am honest, and I have been out out a few times lately well after my bedtime, if you are watching stuff on TV it will all be nicely edited for your consumption

Cherie
07-08-2024, 08:13 PM
I couldn’t make it any clearer ..

Its a matter of perception .. they are perceived as being worthless as they have no respect for themselves


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I might have to get Sheriff to proof read that for me, because I cant believe my eyes

Cherie
07-08-2024, 08:14 PM
Who are you to judge anyone when your idol Corbyn refused to name Hamas and the IRA as terrorists; indeed he has referred to them as friends on occasion.
You are not fit to lick Cherie’s new Nikes. :notimpressed:

Thank you Jet, I am wearing them with my new cap, mask (on my chin as it has slipped) and a flannel nightie

Zizu
07-08-2024, 08:16 PM
I might have to get Sheriff to proof read that for me, because I cant believe my eyes


Which part of the bold confuses you ?
That’s how Asian guys see English girls

Its fairly well known that many young Asian guys date and use English girls for sex but marry ‘good’ asian girls.


Maybe we should drop this matter if you are not seeing what’s going on around you

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Cherie
07-08-2024, 08:17 PM
I wonder how well attended they will be now (a) they have given the locations they are attacking...I mean demonstrating in, I would expect a big police presence unless is a red herring and (b) now prison sentences are being handed down

Looks like I was RIGHT

jet
07-08-2024, 08:22 PM
Cherie has others to lick her nikes for her. Get that tongue lubricated, big man.

It's not smart to label anyone you're trying to negotiate with as terrorists, and any weirdo with a few ridges on their grey matter understands this fact. He used the language of friendship in Parliament 15 years ago, to encourage peace talks, and has since said that he regrets it. I personally don't think he should have retracted it, but we are in a weirdo country.

Naivety doesn't suit you Slim.

jet
07-08-2024, 08:26 PM
Thank you Jet, I am wearing them with my new cap, mask (on my chin as it has slipped) and a flannel nightie

:joker: :love:

MTVN
07-08-2024, 08:31 PM
If everyone is done having a pop at Cherie (:umm2:) the headline news tonight is that the far right haven't turned up at all in 99% of locations

Alf
07-08-2024, 08:32 PM
If everyone is done having a pop at Cherie (:umm2:) the headline news tonight is that the far right haven't turned up at all in 99% of locationsWas it mainstream media disinformation?

MTVN
07-08-2024, 08:34 PM
Was it mainstream media disinformation?

Possible that too much credibility was given to social media rumours or they were deterred by the scale of the counter protests and police presence

thesheriff443
07-08-2024, 08:35 PM
If everyone is done having a pop at Cherie (:umm2:) the headline news tonight is that the far right haven't turned up at all in 99% of locations

Excuse me head boy
I hope you don’t include me in the pop at cherie

Alf
07-08-2024, 08:35 PM
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The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 08:35 PM
Naivety doesn't suit you Slim.

I wrote a long post about what is going on, and the only thing you brought up was a few lines about Corbyn. I appreciate you're only capable of commenting on a few very specific and niche threads on the whole forum, so if I find out Meghan was the man in the balaclava, I'll let you know.

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 08:40 PM
Prayers up for Cherie, and all other shrinking violets :laugh:

Quantum Boy
07-08-2024, 08:41 PM
Was it mainstream media disinformation?

It was all over social media. Big words no real intention behind them, not really a surprise.

Alf
07-08-2024, 08:46 PM
The Muslim community and the anti-facsist facsists are out with their swords and other weapons chasing the 10 year old ghost of the EDL tonight.

Because Starmer fooled them into doing so.

Alf
07-08-2024, 08:51 PM
Starm-troopers hunting the EDL.


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The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 08:53 PM
The Muslim community and the anti-facsist facsists are out with their swords and other weapons chasing the 10 year old ghost of the EDL tonight.

Because Starmer fooled them into doing so.

Why on earth did starmer force tommeh do this?

1821252277677519198

Quantum Boy
07-08-2024, 08:55 PM
The Muslim community and the anti-facsist facsists are out with their swords and other weapons chasing the 10 year old ghost of the EDL tonight.

Because Starmer fooled them into doing so.

I wonder if you actually believe this or if it's just a thing you do Alf.

Ammi
07-08-2024, 08:58 PM
Cyprus 'ready to help' UK police on far-right agitator….


Cyprus police said Wednesday they were ready to assist their British counterparts in taking action against far-right leader Tommy Robinson, allegedly instigating anti-migrant violence from a sun lounger on the island.

"We are in contact with the British police, and if they need our assistance, we are ready to help," a Cyprus police spokesperson said as thousands of UK riot police stood ready to deal with more potential outbreaks of violence.

According to British media, the former leader of the English Defence League, an Islamophobic group founded 15 years ago, appears to be evading a court hearing in Britain while holidaying in Cyprus.

He was filmed by AFPTV this week relaxing by a swimming pool at a five-star hotel in the resort town of Ayia Napa.

Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, is alleged to have orchestrated attacks targeting migrants in Britain through social media posts.

Cyprus police told AFP they believed Robinson was still on the island, and they have informed British authorities they are keeping an eye on him.

"He is still in Cyprus as far as we know," the spokesperson said.

Robinson retorted that he was no longer on the island in a post on X. "Lucky I'm not in Cyprus then ain't it," he wrote.

Britain's director of public prosecutions warned Wednesday that social media influencers allegedly fuelling violent disorder would be extradited, but did not mention Robinson by name.

Stephen Parkinson told the BBC that offenders "must know that they are not safe and there is nowhere to hide".

He added: "We would certainly consider extradition if we are satisfied that an offence has been committed."

British interior minister Yvette Cooper said "there will be a reckoning" for perpetrators, adding that social media put a "rocket booster" under the violence which erupted more than a week ago after three children were murdered.

The government has said 6,000 specialist police are being readied to deal with England's worst disorder in over a decade, which has seen hundreds arrested and more than 100 charged.

The violence broke out after three girls, aged nine, seven and six, were killed and five more children critically injured during a knife attack at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in Southport, northwest England.

False rumours initially spread on social media, saying the attacker was a Muslim asylum seeker.


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/cyprus-ready-help-uk-police-095544666.html

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 08:58 PM
I wonder if you actually believe this or if it's just a thing you do Alf.

I used to think a little from column A, and a little from column B. Now I just think radicalisation has taken hold from some dark places on t'internet.

Alf
07-08-2024, 09:00 PM
Why on earth did starmer force tommeh do this?

1821252277677519198Go ask him. Send him a message or DM on twitter.

Quantum Boy
07-08-2024, 09:00 PM
I used to think a little from column A, and a little from column B. Now I just think radicalisation has taken hold from some dark places on t'internet.

I actually think it's TiBB's fault - he got banned for 6 months and came back ... different ...

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:02 PM
Go ask him. Send him a message or DM on twitter.

I bought the 24mth subscription to Antifa, so I think I get access to him 24/7. I'll phone him later. I know he likes to eat a bowl of porridge made with water, at this time of night. He just finds milk too spicy.

Alf
07-08-2024, 09:02 PM
I used to think a little from column A, and a little from column B. Now I just think radicalisation has taken hold from some dark places on t'internet.So radicalised that I haven't voted in the last two elections. You have though, haven't you?

Beso
07-08-2024, 09:02 PM
Man gets 3 years for hitting a police officer over the weekend.

Airport thugs who violently attacked police....hmm.. I dont know, it seems ages ago now. Have they been charged yet?

Or is it more 2 tier policing.?

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:06 PM
I actually think it's TiBB's fault - he got banned for 6 months and came back ... different ...

:laugh:

https://i.imgflip.com/8zkr7c.jpg

Alf
07-08-2024, 09:09 PM
:laugh:

https://imgflip.com/i/8zkr7cActually wasn't me that came back different. Covid turned you all into Dystopian,authoritarian fascists.

I was still on the side of free choice.

Beso
07-08-2024, 09:09 PM
Which part of the bold confuses you ?
That’s how Asian guys see English girls

Its fairly well known that many young Asian guys date and use English girls for sex but marry ‘good’ asian girls.


Maybe we should drop this matter if you are not seeing what’s going on around you

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I get you zizu, you were saying the asian men see the english girls that way because of what they have seen on tv..you forgot to explain that to cherie in your to and fros, and I think that's where the confusion has come from Cherie

As to your point, I think its more complex than that.

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:10 PM
So radicalised that I haven't voted in the last two elections. You have though, haven't you?

Yes. I'm not sure why you think not participating in the facade of democracy places you above it. People who withdraw from society are provably more likely to go down dark rabbit holes.

Alf
07-08-2024, 09:10 PM
Yes. I'm not sure why you think not participating in the facade of democracy places you above it. People who withdraw from society are provably more likely to go down dark rabbit holes.Of, course they are. That would certainly favour you if that were true, wouldn't it?

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:13 PM
Of, course they are. That would certainly favour you if that were true, wouldn't it?

I don't know what you're trying to say. What would favour me?

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:17 PM
Not sure if I'm allowed to ask this (so delete if it's a can of worms), but I'm genuinely curious. Where is LT?

Quantum Boy
07-08-2024, 09:21 PM
So radicalised that I haven't voted in the last two elections. You have though, haven't you?

I don't think you see the irony in this?

Why didn't you vote.

Zizu
07-08-2024, 09:28 PM
I get you zizu, you were saying the asian men see the english girls that way because of what they have seen on tv..you forgot to explain that to cherie in your to and fros, and I think that's where the confusion has come from Cherie

As to your point, I think its more complex than that.


Yes on the telly but also the general media and of course our towns and cities any given evening

It is an extremely complex situation I’d agree


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Beso
07-08-2024, 09:29 PM
Free palestine march moves into north finchley.:nono:

https://www.youtube.com/live/06TVaYN6DCk?si=-0YejWmn_okqg3or

Beso
07-08-2024, 09:30 PM
Stand up to racism march head for reform headquarters.

https://youtu.be/YgLj14K9GUU?si=Ak01Qbw4FWKfCwCA

Beso
07-08-2024, 09:34 PM
Left v right. Nottingham. Glad I'm sat at home away from the din. 60 second clip..face to face.

https://youtu.be/LiCWVSyjp00?si=LXbPfDgGFhhrSiR6

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:46 PM
Free palestine march moves into north finchley.:nono:

https://www.youtube.com/live/06TVaYN6DCk?si=-0YejWmn_okqg3or

I thought you were against no-go areas?

rusticgal
07-08-2024, 09:56 PM
Man gets 3 years for hitting a police officer over the weekend.

Airport thugs who violently attacked police....hmm.. I dont know, it seems ages ago now. Have they been charged yet?

Or is it more 2 tier policing.?



Anyone who attacks Police officers deserve all they get…and I am glad they are dealing with these thugs the way they are…but it does seem like double standards…

The Slim Reaper
07-08-2024, 09:59 PM
Anyone who attacks Police officers deserve all they get…and I am glad they are dealing with these thugs the way they are…but it does seem like double standards…

What are the double standards? Just stop oil protesters got 5 years, for having a conversation about their next target. A conversation.

Liam-
07-08-2024, 10:12 PM
https://twitter.com/politlcsuk/status/1821288999282966538?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Attacking them like disturbed thugs one day, cowering behind them for safety the next

Beso
07-08-2024, 10:17 PM
I've been waiting on this lads footage of rotherham.

Yorkshire's best videographer.

Fast forward to 1hr 35 to see 2 rioters inside the hotel one standing at the door who throws a lighter to his friend to start a fire inside the hotel. Video aken from just outside one of the smashed windows. Through the hole made in the window actually.

I give you, news now yorkshire.

https://youtu.be/9wcN6QIoGT4?si=3UQ1uw3id72Nu3_T

Beso
07-08-2024, 10:19 PM
What are the double standards? Just stop oil protesters got 5 years, for having a conversation about their next target. A conversation.

@3 tier policing.

Cherie
07-08-2024, 10:23 PM
I get you zizu, you were saying the asian men see the english girls that way because of what they have seen on tv..you forgot to explain that to cherie in your to and fros, and I think that's where the confusion has come from Cherie

As to your point, I think its more complex than that.

Ah right, sorry Zizu and Sherriff I completely misunderstood that post, my mitigation is I was juggling getting dinner ready, watching the Olympics and posting on TiBB

jet
07-08-2024, 10:26 PM
I wrote a long post about what is going on, and the only thing you brought up was a few lines about Corbyn. I appreciate you're only capable of commenting on a few very specific and niche threads on the whole forum, so if I find out Meghan was the man in the balaclava, I'll let you know.

My, aren't you clever! Well done! :worship:

Beso
07-08-2024, 10:27 PM
Ah right, sorry Zizu and Sherriff I completely misunderstood that post, my mitigation is I was juggling getting dinner ready, watching the Olympics and posting on TiBB

Pffft, I could have done all that on half n hour.:hee:

Apart from the olympics.

Beso
07-08-2024, 10:35 PM
@1hour 38 of the above video, the hotel employees family turn up and try and get in the front door, its heartbreaking watching it. The video lad has their back though. Father in tears, mother distraught.

Zizu
07-08-2024, 10:42 PM
Ah right, sorry Zizu and Sherriff I completely misunderstood that post, my mitigation is I was juggling getting dinner ready, watching the Olympics and posting on TiBB


Its fine .. honestly


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Beso
07-08-2024, 10:50 PM
Oh I feel like Dr. John Gottman.

Mystic Mock
07-08-2024, 10:51 PM
Yeah isn't that doxxing and illegal.

I would think so.

Unless there's some legal loophole that would stop it being the case.

Either way though I'm not a fan of leaking personal details about people just because they're on the "other side" of the debate.

Mystic Mock
07-08-2024, 10:55 PM
I can't really speak for tamworth, but rotherham, when they set fire to the bin, the rioters had already been in the hotel after smashing the windows and doors. What did they do when they got inside, did the go hunting immigrants to lynch? No, all they did was nick 4 chairs and 2 fire extinguishers to use against the police. The bin was then set on fire and pushed against the window of the room they had just left which was now full of police. The police stood by and let the flames fizzle out. The police were thier target, not the immigrants in the rooms upstairs.

But attacking the Police in this scenario is also wrong.

Mystic Mock
07-08-2024, 11:00 PM
I live in Birmingham, the scariest Muslim city allah ever created.

You live in Birmingham?:amazed:

Which areas of the City would you say is feeling the riots the most? If you don't mind me asking.

Mystic Mock
07-08-2024, 11:01 PM
That’s more like it

I wouldn't get too excited.

He'll be out next month.

Mystic Mock
07-08-2024, 11:37 PM
Actually wasn't me that came back different. Covid turned you all into Dystopian,authoritarian fascists.

I was still on the side of free choice.

Covid changed everyone to some degree, if we're being entirely honest.

arista
08-08-2024, 01:26 AM
Covid changed everyone to some degree, if we're being entirely honest.


Yes Poxy China's Covid-19

arista
08-08-2024, 01:30 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/92b3/live/9bb19a40-5505-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:33 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9274/live/aad92650-5505-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:36 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7966/live/bb571aa0-5505-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:39 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/b464/live/05780090-5506-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:42 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/deb3/live/2d9d2d00-54f9-11ef-aebc-6de4d31bf5cd.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:44 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7046/live/10a82d00-5501-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

arista
08-08-2024, 01:45 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8be9ccd6-cf8e-4eb9-a49c-565c1e37d318.png

arista
08-08-2024, 01:58 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/23/88286929-0-image-m-7_1723070482899.jpg

Ammi
08-08-2024, 06:17 AM
…nice to see more of a ‘people’s voice’ without the violence and destruction…

arista
08-08-2024, 06:19 AM
…nice to see more of a ‘people’s voice’ without the violence and destruction…


Sure.

Nothing Solved.
Angry Poor Still Angry




Sign Of The Times.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 06:23 AM
Much better headlines there showing decency and more respect.

Far better than the images of the ugly, destructively violent moronic rioters.
Along with the destruction they wreaked on communities.

Just get more and more of them locked away.

Ammi
08-08-2024, 06:27 AM
Sure.

Nothing Solved.
Angry Poor Still Angry




Sign Of The Times.

…there wasn’t anything to ‘solve’ with the riots and violence…they weren’t looking for solving …

Cherie
08-08-2024, 07:41 AM
Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now :fc:

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 07:44 AM
Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now :fc:

I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

bots
08-08-2024, 07:49 AM
it was the equivalent of ... you think that's big? well look at this :laugh:

Cherie
08-08-2024, 07:53 AM
I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

I think as well the idea that 3 people who were walking the streets on Saturday are now locked up for 3 years or so, no bail, no waiting for a court date, go straight to jail monopoly style will have impacted as well :laugh:

Ammi
08-08-2024, 07:53 AM
…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address or invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scream now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 07:56 AM
it was the equivalent of ... you think that's big? well look at this :laugh:

Yes a clear illustration of "many does not mean *most*", which is something people really struggle with these days, the illusion of scale. I think it's an Internet issue really. Because the whole world is interconnected, huge groups of millions of like minded people can come together, and that swell of people makes them all think "wow, everyone else thinks this too!"

But in a world of 6 billion, a million people is niche.

Oliver_W
08-08-2024, 08:08 AM
Oh I feel like Dr. John Gottman.

Well you can't have him :nono:

Cherie
08-08-2024, 08:08 AM
…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address of invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scram now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

well I would hope the government will now get on with the job of processing the asylum claims, and being seen to clamp down on illegal entry, that will take some of the heat out of it

Cherie
08-08-2024, 08:10 AM
You live in Birmingham?:amazed:

Which areas of the City would you say is feeling the riots the most? If you don't mind me asking.

We are here for the Mock and Slim meet up at the Bullring :love:

Ammi
08-08-2024, 08:14 AM
…I’m not sure that it will ‘take the heat out of it’ because the violence/destruction of the rioting wasn’t about immigration imo…any more than it was about the heinous slaughter in Southport…from the very first ‘attack’ it was attacking an established mosque so it was very much representing a completely different beast to any immigration concerns etc…

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 08:15 AM
https://x.com/MahyarTousi/status/1821453741662372070?t=bMoQjTsEBxJJrXcrrVTAEQ&s=19 Who is telling people that 100 protests are planned? It's causing havoc and last night no one came.

MTVN
08-08-2024, 08:17 AM
…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address of invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scram now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…

That's true that immigration will remain a major issue for whatever reason but ultimately most people don't want to be violent and don't want to be locked up so there will be a retreat from too much violent disorder

The police were saying 70% of people arrested so far already had criminal records which is quite revealing

Zizu
08-08-2024, 08:18 AM
Thankfully a peaceful night and hopefully that is an end to it now :fc:


We can only hope !!

We are very close to Bolton ( thankfully surrounded by glorious countryside) but we had police helicopters overhead last night and some kind of sirens at 3 am


I feared the worst but have heard nothing thus far ..

The snag is that it there’s an awful lot of damage been done ( not just property) so it could all kick off again at the slightest thing , I fear


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Zizu
08-08-2024, 08:19 AM
…I’m not sure this will be the end of it, as it were…because what remains is that So much in the way of public services etc have been eroded by our governments and their failure to address of invest…so while that continues…(…which it will…)…it leaves that ‘persuasion’ that it’s immigration related and responsible and the government scram now but they allow that redirection onto immigration because it serves themselves to do so …anyway, though…these riots were led and incited by a different beast of hate entirely…


Exactly


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Zizu
08-08-2024, 08:20 AM
well I would hope the government will now get on with the job of processing the asylum claims, and being seen to clamp down on illegal entry, that will take some of the heat out of it


Admirable optimism


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Zizu
08-08-2024, 08:21 AM
That's true that immigration will remain a major issue for whatever reason but ultimately most people don't want to be violent and don't want to be locked up so there will be a retreat from too much violent disorder

The police were saying 70% of people arrested so far already had criminal records which is quite revealing


Hopefully their records will have been updated ..


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Ammi
08-08-2024, 08:24 AM
That's true that immigration will remain a major issue for whatever reason but ultimately most people don't want to be violent and don't want to be locked up so there will be a retreat from too much violent disorder

The police were saying 70% of people arrested so far already had criminal records which is quite revealing

…I was reading, though…(…only briefly I have to say/I only skimmed it…)…an article of how Tommy Robinson is becoming ‘mainstream’ and that definitely a concern…actually I’m not sure that I didn’t mislead with my wording, I’m a bit off kilter today…the issue with services…’not getting GP appointments…’…etc, is a real issue, I feel…but it’s not an ‘immigrant’ issue, it’s the stripping back of governments on all services…schools have been feeling that for going into decades…and while those things aren’t being addressed as a priority for governments then their complicit surely in the allowance of it being diverted in that direction…and then they’ll scream, this is not acceptable…!!!!….while still not addressing the erosion of public services ….

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 08:25 AM
The police were saying 70% of people arrested so far already had criminal records which is quite revealing

Yep like I said they don't need ai technology to identify people in videos - most of the worst offenders will be known to local police. "Ahh that's Stabby Jim and his brother Dave".

Middle aged men who start smashing stuff up and getting in fights have rarely picked it up as a brand new hobby.

Zizu
08-08-2024, 08:29 AM
Just heard a newsflash on the radio

Something about the FA saying that anyone arrested/ named shamed for attacks on police will get perma banned from football grounds !?


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Mystic Mock
08-08-2024, 08:53 AM
I think a group with a certain mindset who deeply believed themselves to be "the silent majority" discovered that in this case, they were absolutely not. As soon as the illusion of safety in numbers was shattered most scurried back under the rug.

And the Football is starting back up soon.

These people care about their favourite Football teams more than any Political opinions that they might hold, thankfully in this case as it might stop the attacks.

Mystic Mock
08-08-2024, 08:55 AM
We are here for the Mock and Slim meet up at the Bullring :love:

:laugh:

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 08:58 AM
Something about the FA saying that anyone arrested/ named shamed for attacks on police will get perma banned from football grounds !?



:skull: :skull: :joker:

Beso
08-08-2024, 08:59 AM
The govs just gleefully jumping up and down on the heads of the poor.

Oliver_W
08-08-2024, 09:02 AM
The govs just gleefully jumping up and down on the heads of the poor.

For the first time ever.

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 09:04 AM
The govs just gleefully jumping up and down on the heads of the poor.

If you consider newbuilds, astroturf and a season ticket to the footie to be "poor" I guess. More cashed-up dodgy tradies out there than anything else let's face it.

arista
08-08-2024, 09:20 AM
…there wasn’t anything to ‘solve’ with the riots and violence…they weren’t looking for solving …


Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout

Livia
08-08-2024, 09:26 AM
Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

4000 illegals have arrived by boat since Labour got in.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 09:29 AM
Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

4000 illegals have arrived by boat since Labour got in.
It's just too much. We don't have the resources to accommodate all these immigrants.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 09:30 AM
Starmer has to solve the illegal migrants


Ammi - are you aware of what they shout
Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.

bots
08-08-2024, 09:30 AM
people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.

thesheriff443
08-08-2024, 09:31 AM
Locking up some mindless thugs doesn't mean the whole country is fine with mass, unfettered immigration.

The only way that i see a protest to be taken seriously is if its done by women and children only on a scale never seen before in history

No screaming or shouting just a silent protest of women and children in every town/village and city across the country

arista
08-08-2024, 09:31 AM
Yes it needs addressing. Definitely.


Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 09:33 AM
Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.

Livia
08-08-2024, 09:37 AM
As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 09:38 AM
As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.
I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

Livia
08-08-2024, 09:44 AM
I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

arista
08-08-2024, 09:49 AM
We just don't have the resources for this. How many can we take? It's all on the taxpayers backs.


Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

Beso
08-08-2024, 10:16 AM
I want to know who is winding up the Muslim community on purpose. It's the reason they're roaming the streets.
So far no one has come for them.

Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 10:21 AM
Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Last night no one did. It was supposed to be 100 protests?

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 10:22 AM
Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou

Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems

I'm all for helping others, but we're going to run out of money at some point?

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 10:23 AM
And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

They're protected and they don't even bother to hide it.
What about all the other communities? It's not fair. Government should protect everyone, not just a select few.

arista
08-08-2024, 10:24 AM
Really?

https://youtu.be/40ZmP0w0l2Y?si=982-2gI9VVNptbou


Yes good they are going to Jail.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 11:29 AM
There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 11:44 AM
There's always more crossings in the summer months.
That was predicted way before even the election was called

These boat crossings increased under the last government for several years.
Apart from the eventual Albanian agreement.

Just as immigration generally has increased dramatically over the decade plus of the last government.
It ended up at least 3 times the amount it was in 2010 when the last change of government occurred.

Whipping up support against immigration is what has in a big part contributed to sanctioning these criminals as rioters now.
From the possible mindsets of others who hold a more biased anti immigration viewpoint.

With the consequences of these destructive and violent rampages occurring now, fulled in part by the acual criminal rioters just even in their warped way thinking they're actually SUPPORTED.

But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

Ammi
08-08-2024, 12:00 PM
Good you understand it fully

Sad Ammi does not know

…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 12:08 PM
…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….

Spot on Ammi.

You do realise the only people who THINK they know are those against immigration.
I stress THINk they know.

You are right.

These riots in the main started on a blatant lie and misinformation of the identity of the murderer.
Sparked this off from hate towards Muslims by those organising these riots and supporting them.
Whether in person or from their armchairs.

These are in the bigger part racist riots.
Using bits of other immigration as another warped justification for going out and rioting.

Mob rule must NEVER be supported by anyone.
Or by deflection, or justification of same for violence against communities residencies and other human beings.

bots
08-08-2024, 12:10 PM
i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 12:12 PM
But they need to check. Who knows who is coming over? We have no idea who they are.

Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 12:14 PM
i actually think that the reasons for rioting were much simpler than are being presented.

Social media groups know what makes people angry, they spoon feed people "news" that stokes that anger and then points them in the direction of public disorder.

People think that they have access to all this wealth of news on X, but the reality is they are being played and manipulated all the way and none of them seem to understand this

Totally strong and valid points there too bots.
Well said.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 12:16 PM
And they won't come for them I remember a Jewish man being stopped by police during the Palestine protests in London. He was prevented from crossing the road under threat of arrest because he looked "openly Jewish". Imagine saying to a Muslim, "You can't walk freely in your own home city because you look openly Muslim".

Link?

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 12:20 PM
As a side note, attacks on Jews in the UK is up again, higher than it's ever been and it's not the "far Right" who are carrying out the attacks.

I agree with this; attacks on all minorities are up at the moment. Although police categorisation isn't really helping. I remember signs saying "free Palestine" were considered attacks, as was graffiti saying the same thing, so we need a proper consolidation of what we categorise as attacks, and then we need proper statistics.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/oct/10/people-supporting-hamas-in-uk-will-be-held-to-account-says-rishi-sunak

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 12:31 PM
the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

Zizu
08-08-2024, 12:42 PM
people are always a hair breadth from going on the streets. There will always be some reason for discontent and that is amplified these days by social media.

Riots are something we are going to have to get used to. It will be rinse and repeat from now on.


Our neighbour who travels a lot was saying that its more or less like this all the time on and off … same in many other European countries

Guess we aren’t the only ones with thousands of illegal Immigrants piling in relentlessly


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Livia
08-08-2024, 12:44 PM
the likes of Netanyahu, Ben-Gvir especially the latter are also the ones responsible for doing damage to the general image of jewish people

Ben-Gvir his ''jewish fascism'' views



and i agree with Slim, there are attacks against all minorities with these riots by the far right, how they're also spreading lies about the 17 yr old who was convicted for the stabbing spree, whom was NOT a refugee, but born in the UK

Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 12:44 PM
Just asking.
Why weren't you saying all this over the last 10 years plus?
Puzzling???

No need to answer I'm just curious.
We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

Zizu
08-08-2024, 12:45 PM
Yes PM Starmer
must adrees this


In Northern Ireland, their Parliament was recalled
to debate their problems


Why on earth do politicians get 3 or 4 months summer breaks anyway !

Highly paid , doddle of a job yet manage to get all that time off when its good weather !

Cheeky bar stewards !

If they are gonna have all that time off make them work through summer and let them have winter off.


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Livia
08-08-2024, 12:47 PM
Why on earth do politicians get 3 or 4 months summer breaks anyway !

Highly paid , doddle of a job yet manage to get all that time off when its good weather !

If they are gonna have all that time off make them work through summer and let them have winter off.


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Parliament is in recess but a lot of MPs will be working in their constituencies. They don't all take the whole recess off.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 12:50 PM
Jews in this country are not Israelis. Remember not all Muslims are terrorists? It cuts both ways. But yes, of course you agree with slim. Well, today you do. Tomorrow, who knows?

Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

Livia
08-08-2024, 12:51 PM
Nicky flip flops, we all know that, but do you dispute that Ben Gvir is a fascist?

What are your thoughts on the Israeli protests to allow rape of prisoners based on Talmudic law? And the storming of the prison to free those charged with raping prisoners?

Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

arista
08-08-2024, 12:54 PM
…Ammi does absolutely know and understand it fully, Arista…these riots have not been about immigration…if they had then then existing mosques would not have been some of the targets …and apparently they were sparked by a heinous act that was from someone who wasn’t an immigrant so there is no link/connection there either…that some public have/are expressing concerns about immigration is something that is entirely separate from the actions in the riots….


There were alot of others standing back
So it was not one issue alone
this is what you miss, sadly


Was debated on GMBHD itv with 3 Ex MP's
Early this morning,

Zizu
08-08-2024, 12:54 PM
Parliament is in recess but a lot of MPs will be working in their constituencies. They don't all take the whole recess off.


But why go into recess ?

The workday goes on regardless- they should get 4 weeks paid leave like the rest of us


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The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 12:56 PM
Ask a Jew to comment on Israel.

You responded to Nicky about it, so why would it be off the table for me to ask you a question? Would you like to address the questions I asked or not? It just seems that you want to hold Nicky to account, then cry AS because I asked you some questions back. You dismissed Nicky out of hand for no reason. Is it because he's Dutch?

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 12:57 PM
https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:01 PM
We didn't have all these people swarming the streets with weapons before.
I've been here since 1994 and I've never seen anything like this.
And I remember when the ira was bombing London

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

arista
08-08-2024, 01:01 PM
https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?


No the Left Wingers Protect him

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:02 PM
No the Left Wingers Protect him

They're calling for beheadings. Disgusting.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:03 PM
No the Left Wingers Protect him

.... but it's only the last 4 weeks you feel the need to get so public about it.

Interesting.

Fair enough

I think you'll find that's gone on for a good while.
I recall a soldier bless him getting attacked by people with weapons.
13 years ago.!!!
There's been rising crime of knife crime and carrying knives over the last 10 years plus and even long before.

It's not ALL just asylum seekers and immigrants carrying knives and committing violence.
It's just odd how in the last 4/5 weeks some have decided to support those against immigration, plus will justify even in the thinnest veiled way, these criminal rioters.
Allowing immigrants to be blamed for it ALL.

Then to even try to blame the sitting PM, government and police even by wrongly saying they commit differing policing policy.
Just again now in these last 45 weeks .

Yet you even quote as far back to the IRA too.
So it's gone on for a lot longer than the last 4/5 ekks or the 10 years + I indicated.
Carrying weapons has gone on for many decades really not just the last one.
Certainly NOT just in the last 4/5 weeks, that's a fact.

Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:04 PM
No the Left Wingers Protect him

He will rightfully be getting a knock on the door from the police. Lozza declared war on Starmer a few days ago, so everyone needs to calm down a bit.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:04 PM
The only thing that sticks in my throat on these brainless criminals getting into prison.
Is that now despite their unnecessary violence filled rioting
It's the taxpayer who now has to pay for their time in prisons.

I'd be getting anything and everything out their bank accounts as some kind of other justice if I had my way.

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 01:05 PM
https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?

you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox :joker:


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this propaganda on his X account

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:05 PM
He will rightfully be getting a knock on the door from the police. Lozza declared war on Starmer a few days ago, so everyone needs to calm down a bit.
Him and everyone who supports this needs to be locked up.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:06 PM
Well I didn't think it would get this bad.

I'll leave you with that thought.

Only in the last 4/5; weeks.????
I'll have to try to find a thought process of my own to see the fairness of that.
I doubt I will find it however.

arista
08-08-2024, 01:06 PM
Labour Councillor Suspended

Ricky Jones
said he wants the throats cut
of all the far-right men



Ref: GBnewsHD

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-suspends-councillor-after-telling-counter-protestors-to-cut-all-the-throa/


Vanessa posted the video

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:06 PM
you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox :joker:


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this



propaganda on his X account

I can't stand him. But he's spot on about this.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:08 PM
you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox :joker:


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this propaganda on his X account

I'll leave you with that thought.

Only in the last 4/5; weeks.????
I'll have to try to find a thought process of my own to see the fairness of that.
I doubt I will find it however.
I've been here for a long time and I've always felt safe. But not lately.

Livia
08-08-2024, 01:08 PM
You responded to Nicky about it, so why would it be off the table for me to ask you a question? Would you like to address the questions I asked or not? It just seems that you want to hold Nicky to account, then cry AS because I asked you some questions back. You dismissed Nicky out of hand for no reason. Is it because he's Dutch?

I find your constant attention and demand for comment quite childish and a little bit creepy.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:09 PM
you do know ur sharing a link from ubermoron Laurence Fox :joker:


surprises me that he isn't currently leading the pack of far right thug protesters since he still has the time to post this propaganda on his X account

He's one of the vilest of bigots.

You can tell the extreme thinking of anyone who supports him.

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 01:10 PM
I can't stand him. But he's spot on about this.

yup don't find the origin of this hatred, just let out more hatred to all ethnic minorities


never seek the blame with your side, Lozza the miserable z-lister failed actor and posh upper class smug piece of scum, as well the likes of Tommy Robinson will never learn, and good thing the likes of Farage, The Grant Sisters, Rees-Smug keep them fed either with more hatred by the day :notimpressed:



i'm thankful we have Dick Schoof as our PM, and not Wilders the Radical Tiny Tool, but more someone experienced in counterintelligence and antiterrorism forces

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:11 PM
I've been here for a long time and I've always felt safe. But not lately.

Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:12 PM
I can't support someone calling for people's beheadings.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:13 PM
Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.
They're not the only ones to blame. But they aren't innocent either.
Plenty of criminals in all communities.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:14 PM
I find your constant attention and demand for comment quite childish and a little bit creepy.

I haven't demanded anything, I've asked you questions. Maybe the reason you're finding it creepy, is because you don't want to answer the questions, so have to attack the questioner?

if you find someone asking you questions about current world events, on a forum, no less, a bit creepy, then maybe you need to have a think about whether a forum is the right place for you, because I will continue to ask questions, whether it's you, Ammi, SB, Cherie, Nicky, Arista, or anyone else. You're not special.

I could tell you what I find creepy, but you already know...

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 01:15 PM
Sir Keir is only recently your nation's PM, give him a chance, i mean the rotten apples aren't gone within a short amount of time you know


i definitely see potential on long term, those who are born in the UK deserve to stay, if children are without their parents (if parents are sent back) then those children can go to safe foster homes, growing up in a safer environment in the UK rather than sending them to dangerous countries they never been in


if only that 17 yr old boy grown up in a foster home, safely. i think the stabbing spree could've been prevented, if only he got more than enough attention and love & care



there are plenty of south sudanese kids growing up in Australia you know, to name an example of youths with roots from other countries born in australia, who turn out alright

Quantum Boy
08-08-2024, 01:16 PM
I could tell you what I find creepy, but you already know...

Is it when Zizu and Mock discuss sexy ladies?

arista
08-08-2024, 01:19 PM
Labour Councillor Suspended

Ricky Jones
said he wants the throats cut
of all the far-right men



Ref: GBnewsHD

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/labour-suspends-councillor-after-telling-counter-protestors-to-cut-all-the-throa/


Vanessa posted the video


Labour need to Kick him out Forever

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 01:20 PM
They're not the only ones to blame. But they aren't innocent either.
Plenty of criminals in all communities.

You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:23 PM
You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.





What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes
Immigration definitely needs to be controlled. No one is checking who they are when they come over. That can't be a good thing?
Fair enough if you don't agree. We don't have to agree.

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:24 PM
Labour need to Kick him out Forever

I don't know how people can support this. It's madness!

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 01:25 PM
You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

i doubt its only immigrants committing violent crime in the UK


pretty sure you also have some british people among crime underworld leaders

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 01:25 PM
i doubt its only immigrants committing violent crime in the UK


pretty sure you also have some british people among crime underworld leaders

Of course. Agree with that 100%

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:37 PM
Is it when Zizu and Mock discuss sexy ladies?

Definitely not this, I find it weirdly erotic.

GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 01:43 PM
You are only on about stopping immigrants though.

You're saying they're the sector that have to be controlled.
Moreso because of rising crime or stagnant crime in the UK.

What is the actual percentage of violent cime in the UK that has been proven to be only committed by immigrants.
As opposed to the homegrown population of the UK committing violent crime.
That you're heading your now view in these last weeks that immigration needs controlling to stop violent crimes

I don't think Vanessa wants immigration to stop as such , it's more about controlling it . You can tell this government and the Tories didn't have a clue ,we had 15 years of people like Boris,May , Cameron ,( the least said about the embarrassment that was Truss the better) ,Sunak etc ...and all of them have stumbled through and made a mess of it.

Starmer hasn't got a clue, and I'm talking about running this country in general ...not just the whole ' immigration thing '. He looks lost .

And for years like you've said yes knife crime has been a problem, especially in London which seems to be stab central, I remember when Brooke Kinsella was trying to raise awareness of knife crime ...after her brother was tragically killed,and look. How many years ago that was. So it's always been a major problem,and back them there was alot of teens randomly attacking eachother .

But something very wrong is happening....as crime seems to be going up ,which I predicted would.

And of course all sorts of people are committing crimes,it will be foolish and ignorant to only think it's minorities doing it . I think some people are just concerned ...and I'm not talking about people like Fox & Hopkins ( just to name a few) who just enjoy adding more petrol to the flames for a reaction,and they offer no hope to people.

But I think people out there have valid arguments against both government Labour & Cons, people are still very much wanting to know about important stuff like NHS appointments, and now there's the winter fuel that labour has scrapped which has upset people.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:47 PM
We are here for the Mock and Slim meet up at the Bullring :love:

I think Star City would be best for the meet up. Colloquially known as Stab City.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:51 PM
You live in Birmingham?:amazed:

Which areas of the City would you say is feeling the riots the most? If you don't mind me asking.

I think the city has been pretty lucky so far. Yardley had a few skirmishes, but that's about it. I think the high numbers of opps would make it a tricky place for far right riots to kick off in the one sided manner that cowards always prefer.

bots
08-08-2024, 01:51 PM
People are either too young or have forgotten that the Blair government had huge issues with immigration. This has been an issue with the public for more than 20 years. Why is it different now? Social media

Livia
08-08-2024, 01:53 PM
I haven't demanded anything, I've asked you questions. Maybe the reason you're finding it creepy, is because you don't want to answer the questions, so have to attack the questioner?

if you find someone asking you questions about current world events, on a forum, no less, a bit creepy, then maybe you need to have a think about whether a forum is the right place for you, because I will continue to ask questions, whether it's you, Ammi, SB, Cherie, Nicky, Arista, or anyone else. You're not special.

I could tell you what I find creepy, but you already know...

I don't mind answering questions. I don't want to answer YOUR questions.

Ammi
08-08-2024, 01:58 PM
There were alot of others standing back
So it was not one issue alone
this is what you miss, sadly


Was debated on GMBHD itv with 3 Ex MP's
Early this morning,

… no, it’s not what I miss sadly, Arista…once any thoughts or concerns etc about immigration are mixed and mingled with violent riots and a completely different agenda and voice…as we’ve seen…those concerns get completely lost in the wrong place and the wrong time…maybe that’s sadly what you’re missing….

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 01:59 PM
I don't mind answering questions. I don't want to answer YOUR questions.

You wound me.

https://media.tenor.com/MPrnJ9z6-6sAAAAM/denzel-washington-relief.gif

arista
08-08-2024, 02:01 PM
I don't know how people can support this. It's madness!


In the video you posted
after that Labour Councillor
Ricky Jones said Cut their Throats
he handed the Microphone to a Lady
who loved all the claps?
And Gaza Preaching....



A Labour councillor goes Nazi

100% Proof
first posted by Vanessa:

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19

Livia
08-08-2024, 02:12 PM
You wound me.



You'll get over it.

Cherie
08-08-2024, 02:15 PM
In the video you posted
after that Labour Councillor
Ricky Jones said Cut their Throats
he handed the Microphone to a Lady
who loved all the claps?
And Gaza Preaching....



A Labour councillor goes Nazi

100% Proof
first posted by Vanessa:

https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19

blimey I think he thought he was performing at Wembley to an adoring audience, he has been suspended now

arista
08-08-2024, 02:21 PM
blimey I think he thought he was performing at Wembley to an adoring audience, he has been suspended now


Yes,
but he needs to be removed Totally.


Labour Nazi

Cherie
08-08-2024, 02:26 PM
Is it when Zizu and Mock discuss sexy ladies?

spat my tea out :laugh:

Cherie
08-08-2024, 02:35 PM
A couple who became involved in riots in Hartlepool after going to an afternoon bingo session have each been jailed for two years and two months.

Steven Mailen, 54, of Arch Court, Hartlepool, was described as “one of the main instigators” of a large scale disturbance on Murray Street.

His partner Ryan Sheers, 29, of Powlett Road, Hartlepool, was bitten on the hip by a police dog during the incident.

The pair, neither of whom has any previous convictions, pleaded guilty to violent disorder after around 200 people gathered in the town on July 31.

Teesside Crown Court heard Mailen and Sheers had been at bingo together in the afternoon and continued drinking at home.

They told police they came upon the disturbance on the way to the shop to buy more alcohol and ended up being “at the very forefront of the mob”.
Rachel Masters, prosecuting, said officers at the scene described Mailen as “one of the main instigators of a large scale disturbance”


I mean :joker:

Beso
08-08-2024, 02:42 PM
The riots wernt mainly about muslims..2 incidents involving mosques took place..the rest was left v right and anti immigration.

The majority of people protested peacefully. Others hijacked events to cause chaos. The left were just as bad as the right at nearly all protests and counter protests.

The Slim Reaper
08-08-2024, 02:49 PM
The riots wernt mainly about muslims..2 incidents involving mosques took place..the rest was left v right and anti immigration.

The majority of people protested peacefully. Others hijacked events to cause chaos. The left were just as bad as the right at nearly all protests and counter protests.

They weren't left v right. Decent people, I'm assuming of all political persuasions, came out to stand against the race rioters. None of this has anything to do with the left. Trust me, if it was, then the left would be a powerful majority of the country, and that isn't the case.

i think you're genuinely a good guy. You'd be good company to have a beer with, and a good friend to have, but you need to look at what has happened over the last week, and have a think about about things.

Beso
08-08-2024, 02:54 PM
https://x.com/LozzaFox/status/1821479229516550297?t=XoE9S2PTISsVhES4VweoRw&s=19
Surely this is classed as hate speech? How is this allowed?



Look at all the gleeful faces of the left standing shoulder to shoulder with him.

Beso
08-08-2024, 02:59 PM
The only thing that sticks in my throat on these brainless criminals getting into prison.
Is that now despite their unnecessary violence filled rioting
It's the taxpayer who now has to pay for their time in prisons.

I'd be getting anything and everything out their bank accounts as some kind of other justice if I had my way.



I dont mind paying, I reckon they will be seen as national heros in years to come.

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:07 PM
He's one of the vilest of bigots.

You can tell the extreme thinking of anyone who supports him.

Ignore the man telling people to slit throats, to call someone else a vile bigot...bit of hypocrisy there.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 03:10 PM
Yes,
but he needs to be removed Totally.


Labour Nazi

On this absolutely right.

I would throw him out the Party
Just finished work and read this in disbelief.
Absolutely, in fact his comments should be classed as criminal.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 03:14 PM
Oh dear,.
Someone on here ready to get at me at any opportunity.
Seems to think I have any interest in what they say.

Well I haven't and said so months ago.

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:16 PM
Labour are to blame for rising violent crime like gang rapes and stabbings.

arista
08-08-2024, 03:18 PM
On this absolutely right.

I would throw him out the Party
Just finished work and read this in disbelief.
Absolutely, in fact his comments should be classed as criminal.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUc6PsCWMAARTLB?format=jpg&name=small


Now the Police are looking into what he stated

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:20 PM
blimey I think he thought he was performing at Wembley to an adoring audience, he has been suspended now

Should read suspended pending a criminal investigation..

arista
08-08-2024, 03:20 PM
Good on GBnewsHD
played the Total Video.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 03:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUc6PsCWMAARTLB?format=jpg&name=small


Now the Police are looking into what he stated

Excellent that the police are arista.
I'd see it as criminal certainly.

arista
08-08-2024, 03:21 PM
PM Starmer
having another Cobra meeting

arista
08-08-2024, 03:24 PM
Excellent that the police are arista.
I'd see it as criminal certainly.


Yes to say Cut their throats
is criminal on a Public Microphone
getting cheers?

PM Starmer may finally
be aware of him.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 03:26 PM
Yes say Cut their throats
is criminal on a Public Microphone
getting cheers?

PM Starmer may finally
be aware of him.

Shameful but as I say, I hope it's deemed criminal too.

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:28 PM
They weren't left v right. Decent people, I'm assuming of all political persuasions, came out to stand against the race rioters. None of this has anything to do with the left. Trust me, if it was, then the left would be a powerful majority of the country, and that isn't the case.

i think you're genuinely a good guy. You'd be good company to have a beer with, and a good friend to have, but you need to look at what has happened over the last week, and have a think about about things.



Check out my nottingham video. Then apologise.

bots
08-08-2024, 03:33 PM
he has been arrested now for inciting murder

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:35 PM
One less lefty hypocrite to bother me.

Thank you god.

arista
08-08-2024, 03:36 PM
he has been arrested now for inciting murder


Good news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz074vyvjzvo

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:38 PM
Should arrest the rest of the nazi mob for encouraging it.

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 03:38 PM
he has been arrested now for inciting murder

Extremely good news.

arista
08-08-2024, 03:43 PM
Should arrest the rest of the nazi mob for encouraging it.


No only Ricky said Cut their throats

Beso
08-08-2024, 03:46 PM
Jail it before monday, or its 2 tier policing.

Ammi
08-08-2024, 03:51 PM
Woman named as first to share false Southport suspect rumour before riots says mistake ‘destroyed’ her…

A British businesswoman accused of being the first person to share false information about the Southport killings of three girls has said the “mistake” has “destroyed” her.

Bonnie Spofforth is alleged to have fired off a tweet on social media site X, formerly known as Twitter, wrongly claiming the stabbing suspect was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat hours after the three girls were killed.

The 55-year-old also shared an incorrect name for the boy accused of perpetrating attacks at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday club in Southport, in which three people died.

Ms Spofforth is understood to have written: “Ali Al-Shakati was the suspect, he was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year and was on an MI6 watch list. If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose.”

Discussing the far-right riots that erupted after misinformation swelled online, Ms Spofforth told MailOnline: “I’m mortified that I’m being accused of this. I did not make it up. I first received this information from somebody in Southport.”

She added: “My post had nothing to do with the violence we’ve seen across the country. But I acknowledge that it may have been the source for the information used by a Russian news website.”

Discussing the ordeal, she previously told The Times: “It was a spur-of-the-moment ridiculous thing to do, which has literally destroyed me. It was just a mistake. I did a really stupid, stupid thing, I copied and pasted it from what I saw, and I added the line ‘if this is true’.”

Rioters have since attacked mosques, ambushed riot police, set fire to a hotel housing migrants and torched a public library and Citizens Advice Bureau building. There have been multiple incidents of ethnic minorities being attacked on the streets.

MailOnline says it worked out her identity after carrying out an extensive search of X posts that used the name Ali Al-Shakti, which revealed hers was the first.

Asked by the publication, she claimed she saw another individual share the name on X but could not offer any proof.

MailOnline reports that her post was deleted an hour after it surfaced but that the incorrect information had already been widely repeated by social media personalities such as far-right activist and English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson and misogynistic influencer Andrew Tate.

More than 400 people have been arrested since the violence began – with 100 already charged and suspects now going through the courts.

The Independent has reported on other women who have been involved in disorder in recent weeks by posting about it on social media or taking part in the rioting.

Axel Rudakubana, an 18-year-old born in Wales who had been living in Banks in Lancashire at the time of the Southport attack, has been charged with three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder.


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Beso
08-08-2024, 03:53 PM
Oh dear,.
Someone on here ready to get at me at any opportunity.
Seems to think I have any interest in what they say.

Well I haven't and said so months ago.

That the difference between me an you, I forgive.

And that makes me the better and less bitter man

joeysteele
08-08-2024, 04:09 PM
Woman named as first to share false Southport suspect rumour before riots says mistake ‘destroyed’ her…

A British businesswoman accused of being the first person to share false information about the Southport killings of three girls has said the “mistake” has “destroyed” her.

Bonnie Spofforth is alleged to have fired off a tweet on social media site X, formerly known as Twitter, wrongly claiming the stabbing suspect was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat hours after the three girls were killed.

The 55-year-old also shared an incorrect name for the boy accused of perpetrating attacks at a Taylor Swift-themed holiday club in Southport, in which three people died.

Ms Spofforth is understood to have written: “Ali Al-Shakati was the suspect, he was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year and was on an MI6 watch list. If this is true, then all hell is about to break loose.”

Discussing the far-right riots that erupted after misinformation swelled online, Ms Spofforth told MailOnline: “I’m mortified that I’m being accused of this. I did not make it up. I first received this information from somebody in Southport.”

She added: “My post had nothing to do with the violence we’ve seen across the country. But I acknowledge that it may have been the source for the information used by a Russian news website.”

Discussing the ordeal, she previously told The Times: “It was a spur-of-the-moment ridiculous thing to do, which has literally destroyed me. It was just a mistake. I did a really stupid, stupid thing, I copied and pasted it from what I saw, and I added the line ‘if this is true’.”

Rioters have since attacked mosques, ambushed riot police, set fire to a hotel housing migrants and torched a public library and Citizens Advice Bureau building. There have been multiple incidents of ethnic minorities being attacked on the streets.

MailOnline says it worked out her identity after carrying out an extensive search of X posts that used the name Ali Al-Shakti, which revealed hers was the first.

Asked by the publication, she claimed she saw another individual share the name on X but could not offer any proof.

MailOnline reports that her post was deleted an hour after it surfaced but that the incorrect information had already been widely repeated by social media personalities such as far-right activist and English Defence League founder Tommy Robinson and misogynistic influencer Andrew Tate.

More than 400 people have been arrested since the violence began – with 100 already charged and suspects now going through the courts.

The Independent has reported on other women who have been involved in disorder in recent weeks by posting about it on social media or taking part in the rioting.

Axel Rudakubana, an 18-year-old born in Wales who had been living in Banks in Lancashire at the time of the Southport attack, has been charged with three counts of murder and 10 counts of attempted murder.


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Quite a read that Ammi.

It would be nice to think she'll be extremely more careful as to what she presents as fact in future.

She seemed none-the-less eager to share it and very rapidly.

Whatever her thinking, her sharing it has had consequences.
Only negative ones too.

GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 04:16 PM
No only Ricky said Cut their throats

Well they'll be repeating what he's saying, that's usually how it goes with hive minds.

But once you start inciting violence, you've already lost .

Ammi
08-08-2024, 04:26 PM
Quite a read that Ammi.

It would be nice to think she'll be extremely more careful as to what she presents as fact in future.

She seemed none-the-less eager to share it and very rapidly.

Whatever her thinking, her sharing it has had consequences.
Only negative ones too.

…yeah, it’s a lot about consequences, isn’t it, Joey…it must have felt so ‘distanced’ when she shared something with so much weight that hadn’t been verified as being truth…it’s similar to ‘outrage’ type headlines that are quite misleading, they have elements of that also….that once something is typed or relayed etc …there is no longer any ‘control’ over where it could help lead to…anyways, she can’t take back her actions and contribution but I hope that she can move forward from it …

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 04:30 PM
Well they'll be repeating what he's saying, that's usually how it goes with hive minds.

But once you start inciting violence, you've already lost .

especially if those don't understand ''figure of speech'' or ''metaphorically''

yes those far right idiots need to shut up, but we don't literally need to cut their throats absolutely agree obviously

arista
08-08-2024, 04:32 PM
Police hope the rain
will stop any Riots toinight

Nicky91
08-08-2024, 04:34 PM
Police hope the rain
will stop any Riots toinight

doubt that, since they can bring umbrella's with them then :omgno:

Ammi
08-08-2024, 04:44 PM
Police hope the rain
will stop any Riots toinight

…that’s what I’ve been hoping also and doing rain dances every evening…

Zizu
08-08-2024, 04:53 PM
Most of us have been here a long time.

Myself over 32 years now.since being born
Others have been here far longer.
However we don't single out immigration or immigrants for the crimes across the Country.
No way.


I think they committ a disproportional amount of crimes tbh - especially serious sexual/ violent crimes and acts of terror


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Alf
08-08-2024, 05:00 PM
Extremely good news.I'd be concerned about those cheering him calling for slit throats. Definitely the woman waring an amnesty vest.

GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 05:01 PM
I think they committ a disproportional amount of crimes tbh - especially serious sexual/ violent crimes and acts of terror


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I don't know what the full stats are,but like I said anyone with common sense knows it isn't just minorities or asylum seekers committing crimes. But I also don't see issue with wanting there to be more safety checks done:shrug: .

Recently we've been hearing about crime happening from different people, the 17 year old Southport killer...was born here . Now there's talk of a link with the Taylor swift terror threat/ radicalism in Austria,I think it's just a coincidence. But it still makes us wonder what possessed a guy to go out and murder innocent children. Maybe we'll never find out .

arista
08-08-2024, 05:05 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUSAXWSWEAAacHv?format=jpg&name=small

arista
08-08-2024, 05:10 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/08/13/88307861-13723539-image-m-31_1723121234880.jpg


Labour still has not Kicked out
the Arrested Ricky Jones Labour Nazi

Ammi
08-08-2024, 05:11 PM
Grandfather, 69, who armed himself with cosh to take part in riot is jailed…

A grandfather who armed himself with a wooden cosh and joined a “mob” who attacked police and damaged buildings has been jailed for two years and eight months.

Retired welder William Nelson Morgan, 69, was sentenced for violent disorder and possession of an offensive weapon at Liverpool Crown Court after a hearing was fast-tracked following his guilty pleas at the city’s magistrates’ court on Monday.

John O’Malley, 43, appeared alongside him in the dock and was also jailed for two years and eight months after admitting violent disorder in Southport.

Christopher Taylor, prosecuting, said Morgan, of Linton Street, Walton, was part of a group of about 100 people who set fire to bins, damaged businesses and buildings and threw missiles at police on County Road, Liverpool on the evening of Saturday August 3.

Spellow Library was set on fire during the violent scenes.

…full article…

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/grandfather-69-armed-himself-cosh-115350217.html

GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 05:15 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/08/13/88307861-13723539-image-m-31_1723121234880.jpg


Labour still has not Kicked out
the Arrested Ricky Jones Labour Nazi

Well let's see what Starmer does .

Vanessa
08-08-2024, 05:16 PM
Well let's see what Starmer does .

Coming down hard on anyone who doesn't agree with him. Let's see if this guy gets away with it. He shouldn't.

Beso
08-08-2024, 05:22 PM
Police hope the rain
will stop any Riots toinight

Football season starts soon.

GoldHeart
08-08-2024, 05:35 PM
Hopefully the football will ironically calm down things .

Zizu
08-08-2024, 05:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUSAXWSWEAAacHv?format=jpg&name=small


There have been thousands of thugs , rioters, looters and weapon wielding including that young Asian guy with the huge sword in the town centre .. do they all get off Scott free ?


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arista
08-08-2024, 05:37 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/08/13/88307863-13723539-image-a-33_1723121330417.jpg

Jail Him

Labour Nazi Ricky Jones