Riots / Protests [Merged threads]

[Vanessa]

All muslim houses I've been in dont watch british news channels.

Yes. We have many colleagues who are muslims and they mainly watch their own channels.

[Livia]

Yes that should be shown on BBC and ITV news


I posted the Tweet on this thread

Missed that, sorry Arista.

[The Slim Reaper]

Having entirely peaceful demonstrations broadcast would be good PR, no? Chasing reporters away spins a different narrative.

Muslims have been attacked pretty much since 9/11. I know because I fell into that trap, too. My bigotry was based around atheism versus the dangers of religious fundamentalism, but I was still a bigot. Those attacks have ramped up significantly over the last decade as the lead up to brexit, and the reemergence of the farage far right.

If I was in those communities, I'd probably be a little more worried about survival than PR at the moment. Those Muslims out on the streets won't be the level-headed, community leaders, especially after what they've seen happening over the last few days, and maybe a good portion of them are also itching for a fight, but it would still be in response to something.

Have you not seen the peaceful Muslims providing food and drinks to police officers? Did you not see the Muslims outside the oldest most in the uk (Liverpool) on Sunday night, handing out burgers and drinks?

[Oliver_W]

Have you not seen the peaceful Muslims providing food and drinks to police officers? Did you not see the Muslims outside the oldest most in the uk (Liverpool) on Sunday night, handing out burgers and drinks?

Of course I have, because no thugs chased away the press when those things happened.

[user104658]

No, I'm talking about the demonstrations mentioned in the post I had quoted. The ones from which reporters were chased.

What was happening at those? What were they about?

[Parmy]

Who was being attacked on 9/11...and before, by muslims..

[arista]

Just watched the video of a lone white man attacked outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Birmingham. The place was surrounded and people had to barricade the doors. The gang was Muslim, the police did not attend.



Yes This is the Video

https://x.com/MahyarTousi/status/1820161468437823687


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[arista]

Missed that, sorry Arista.


OK posted again

[Vanessa]

Yes This is the Video

https://x.com/MahyarTousi/status/1820161468437823687


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Its awful. I really hope he's ok :sad:

[Parmy]

Its awful. I really hope he's ok :sad:

He was lucky some elder muslims were there. Something I've noticed with a few of these attacks..The muslim side always seems to have someone in control stopping any attacks that are going to far. Whereas the white brits have older brits egging the youth on..

[Oliver_W]

What was happening at those? What were they about?

Who knows? The press were chased away. I'm sure it was perfectly peaceful though.

[Liam-]

https://x.com/GoldingBF/status/1820775810846081327?t=dQbQZLeCYgmokGkNtGtrIQ&s=19
In Bolton.

Britain First as a reference, lovely stuff

[The Slim Reaper]

See that’s were wrong, I’ve spent days in a paper suit for attempted murder
I’m no stranger to violence
I’m ice cold when it comes to violence

But there is no place in society for scum bags running up and down the streets looking to cause as much damage as possible

Only just seen this :laugh:

Never change, Sheriff Wick.

[user104658]

He was lucky some elder muslims were there. Something I've noticed with a few of these attacks..The muslim side always seems to have someone in control stopping any attacks that are going to far. Whereas the white brits have older brits egging the youth on..

I mean the sad reality there is if a 50 year old white man tried to stop a group of 15-20 year old white lads kicking someone's head in, they'd just end up on the receiving end of the same shoe.

[Parmy]

I mean the sad reality there is if a 50 year old white man tried to stop a group of 15-20 year old white lads kicking someone's head in, they'd just end up on the receiving end of the same shoe.

The muslim side should have women trying to stop them to even things up then :smug:

[Vanessa]

https://********************/status/1820780983341260924?t=AfwgUCRa0CtOg5zxz605tA&s=19
Does any of you live in Bolton?
Strong police presence there against muslim extremists.

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/TheNorfolkLion/status/1820802878405030225?t=gfk70onx_S2h43Zkp7N_xw&s=19
Bolton yesterday.

[Parmy]

Is this even really vanessa posting?

[user104658]

The muslim side should have women trying to stop them to even things up then :smug:

Meh that's just all men who are inclined to violence Parmy. If they'll kick a stranger in the street they'll kick their girlfriend at home.

[Vanessa]

Is this even really vanessa posting?

Have a look for yourself.

[The Slim Reaper]

Who changed that thread title? :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Meh that's just all men who are inclined to violence Parmy. If they'll kick a stranger in the street they'll kick their girlfriend at home.

Did you see the guy who got hit with the 3 bricks? He was caught because the following day, the police were called out to his house on DV allegations.

[Vanessa]

https://x.com/CDP1882/status/1820761524320833857?t=Xdyrw91q9tclKSUTAdSv3A&s=19
Yardley. GB news are covering this.

[Oliver_W]

Did you see the guy who got hit with the 3 bricks? He was caught because the following day, the police were called out to his house on DV allegations.

The guy who got hit was also a domestic abuser?

Sometimes there really are no good people involved.

[The Slim Reaper]

The guy who got hit was also a domestic abuser?

Sometimes there really are no good people involved.

The racism and violence is ok, but not the DV?

[GoldHeart]

I can understand them protecting their community. But no one should be attacking people with weapons. And that goes for both sides.

Yep
And neither side should be intimidating the other either.

[Parmy]

Its awful. I really hope he's ok :sad:

He was giving it the big come on, and they came on..half his own fault tbh.

[GoldHeart]

I wouldn't be too sympathetic or willing to excuse the behaviour of the Asian crowds in Birmingham yesterday. Fair enough that they feel very threatened by recent events but given that the reports of a far right rally there were false there is no excuse for them then acting threateningly to random pub goers, a Sky news camera crew and an LBC reporter. That's not defending your community


Exactly
It's just adding more fuel to the fire , and this goes for the far right aswell... attacking and intimidating random Asian ,and other races have nothing to do with any of this. That is brain dead behaviour.

[Vanessa]

Yep
And neither side should be intimidating the other either.

Yes exactly. I agree.

[Vanessa]

He was giving it the big come on, and they came on..half his own fault tbh.

That may be true, but he could have died. It's a bit ove there top, I think?

[Liam-]

Yes exactly. I agree.

Except you don’t agree though do you, you’ve made it clear you think the racist rioters are entirely justified, you’re only now concerned because the brown people those thugs are targeting are coming together to defend themselves and their families

[Parmy]

View from inside birmingham pub, you can see him giving it the bigun, and you also see muslims stopping the attack. Further in the video it skips to the workman having to seek refuge in a ditch to save himself from a beating..muslims also say that's enough, but some call him a white ****, which is racist.


https://youtu.be/GZSBjX5gWPQ?si=7pJpY0cuRXz9TXNB

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/lbc/status/1820772834353852663?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Never mind the myth of two tier policing, how about two tier worry and concern

[Parmy]

2 tier policing isnt a myth, video one in this thread proves that.

2tier policing doesnt just mean white brits get treated differently.it also means you will wait weeks if you are burgled to see a copoer, if you actually do see one..but if a tesco or something asks for assistance they are straight round.

[Oliver_W]

The racism and violence is ok, but not the DV?

None of it's okay, hence the NO GOOD PEOPLE.

[GoldHeart]

Top post on the Birmingham reddit atm is some wise words from a local Muslim

Finally common sense :clap1:

[Oliver_W]

Except you don’t agree though do you, you’ve made it clear you think the racist rioters are entirely justified, you’re only now concerned because the brown people those thugs are targeting are coming together to defend themselves and their families

There are thugs and aggressors on both sides, not all of the "brown people" are defending themselves or anyone else.

[Vanessa]

There are thugs and aggressors on both sides, not all of the "brown people" are defending themselves or anyone else.
:worship:

[Ninastar]

Except you don’t agree though do you, you’ve made it clear you think the racist rioters are entirely justified, you’re only now concerned because the brown people those thugs are targeting are coming together to defend themselves and their families

I don’t think Vanessa or anyone else on here (bar some trolls) believe this. I think this is the narrative that the extreme left push to try and diminish and demonise the very understandable point that others believe in.

Vanessa is an immigrant right? I am too and most of us who post on here who are deemed right wing extremists or racist or xenophobic come from very mixed backgrounds. Most of us aren’t posting just cause we see **** on the internet and get mind controlled by it, it’s things we have experienced in person

For a community that is so against judgment and labelling, the left sure does love to label anything that is not what they believe, racist or ignorant or xenophobic or transphobic etc

As someone who is queer and genuinely bang in the middle with my political beliefs, it’s sad to see that there are so many of my lgbt family members ready to attack and demonize someone just for having a different opinion

We know who the trolls are. We know they are ignorant and hateful. But not everyone who thinks they have a valid point is a piece of ****

[user104658]

Did you see the guy who got hit with the 3 bricks? He was caught because the following day, the police were called out to his house on DV allegations.

Sadly the same mechanism as "Derby Day DV" I imagine - when big rival teams play against each other, there's a corresponding uptick in domestic violence in whichever area the teams cover. Blokes coming home full of adrenaline and rage and taking it out on their family. Stats also show that there's no significant difference whether it's win/lose/draw ... it's literally just amped-up thugs on the comedown.

[user104658]

I don’t think Vanessa or anyone else on here (bar some trolls) believe this. I think this is the narrative that the extreme left push to try and diminish and demonise the very understandable point that others believe in.

Vanessa is an immigrant right? I am too and most of us who post on here who are deemed right wing extremists or racist or xenophobic come from very mixed backgrounds. Most of us aren’t posting just cause we see **** on the internet and get mind controlled by it, it’s things we have experienced in person

For a community that is so against judgment and labelling, the left sure does love to label anything that is not what they believe, racist or ignorant or xenophobic or transphobic etc

As someone who is queer and genuinely bang in the middle with my political beliefs, it’s sad to see that there are so many of my lgbt family members ready to attack and demonize someone just for having a different opinion

We know who the trolls are. We know they are ignorant and hateful. But not everyone who thinks they have a valid point is a piece of ****

The backlash against non-white-people and uprising against immigration in supposed response to the tragic murder of three little girls is one of the most clear-cut examples of real world xenophobia in recent memory. It is the actual textbook definition.

[Liam-]

Sorry, but once you’re very clearly taking your references and ‘opinions’ from the likes of Britain First and other far right online trolls like Vanessa has shown she is doing on this very thread, we are allowed to draw conclusions from that, this forced ‘both sides’ narrative just doesn’t work when we can see what’s happening with our eyes and the people that are justifying it and even supporting it, which people on here are

[Vanessa]

I don’t think Vanessa or anyone else on here (bar some trolls) believe this. I think this is the narrative that the extreme left push to try and diminish and demonise the very understandable point that others believe in.

Vanessa is an immigrant right? I am and most of us who post on here who are deemed right wing extremists or racist or xenophobic come from very mixed backgrounds. Most of us aren’t posting just cause we see **** on the internet and get mind controlled by it, it’s things we have experienced in perso

For a community that is so against judgment and labelling, the left sure does love to label anything that is not what they believe, racist or ignorant or xenophobic or transphobic et

As someone who is queer and genuinely bang in the middle with my political beliefs, it’s sad to see that there are so many of my lgbt family members ready to attack and demonize someone just for having a different opinion

We know who the trolls are. We know they are ignorant and hateful. But not everyone who thinks they have a valid point is a piece of ****
That's the biggest problem.
Anyone voicing concerns or different opinions is immediately labelled as a far right racist.

[The Slim Reaper]

There are thugs and aggressors on both sides, not all of the "brown people" are defending themselves or anyone else.

Both siding race riots is quite the take. Would one side be out there at all if the other wasn't rampaging through communities?

[Liam-]

Both siding race riots is quite the take. Would one side be out there at all if the other wasn't rampaging through communities?

The horrible Muslims need to sit down and be quiet and let the coked up racists destroy their communities and assault their families, why can’t white people attempt to burn groups of people alive in peace?!

[user104658]

He was giving it the big come on, and they came on..half his own fault tbh.

None of the violence is excusable - there are an awful lot of half-truths being told though e.g. it was made out that this guy was attacked totally at random while just minding his own business - and yet you can plainly see several other white men in the video, none of them being attacked.

Again that's not to say there's any excuse for him being attacked like this and he's lucky (if it is the case) not to be seriously injured or dead... but it's obviously not a random bystander. And people know that but pretend it is purely to stoke up fear.

[bots]

i want to know what the rioters and those that support them expect to achieve. The immigrants are here and they can't do anything about that now. What does attacking them and or the police and or property achieve?

It's not going to change the mind of the government. What may change the governments mind is peaceful protest against the government, If the numbers are big enough, maybe they will listen. Violence and destruction wont achieve anything

[user104658]

That's the biggest problem.
Anyone voicing concerns or different opinions is immediately labelled as a far right racist.

Far right not necessarily, racist not entirely.

Xenophobic yes. Anyone spreading fear and scare stories about immigrants in the last few days is 100% being xenophobic.

Xenophobia
noun
1) A fear of strangers or foreigners.
2) A strong antipathy or aversion to strangers or foreigners.
3) A fear of foreigners or strangers.


Can you refute the above definition? You've expressed being fearful... you've made it clear who/what you are afraid of. That's it... that's the whole definition.

There's a common misconception that "xenophobic" and "racist" are synonymous -- I actually recall having quite a heated discussion about the distinction on this very forum several years ago. They're not the same thing.

Someone who is racist will no doubt be a xenophobic.

Someone who is xenophobic will almost certainly say things that are either intentionally or unintentionally racist.

But there is a subtle distinction in the reasoning.

(Either way it's bad reasoning)

[user104658]

i want to know what the rioters and those that support them expect to achieve. The immigrants are here and they can't do anything about that now. What does attacking them and or the police and or property achieve?

It's not going to change the mind of the government. What may change the governments mind is peaceful protest against the government, If the numbers are big enough, maybe they will listen. Violence and destruction wont achieve anything

They believe that it'll force the government to stop further immigration "better" and crack down on asylum seekers / limit numbers more etc.

Usually peddling myths like "the country's FULL"

...and failing to realise that if we halt or reduce net migration our aging population will economically destroy the country. Tee hee. :hehe:. They won't even "get it" then though they'll just blame immigrants for that, too. Or maybe disabled people or something.

[Vanessa]

Far right not necessarily, racist not entirely.

Xenophobic yes. Anyone spreading fear and scare stories about immigrants in the last few days is 100% being xenophobic.

Xenophobia
noun
1) A fear of strangers or foreigners.
2) A strong antipathy or aversion to strangers or foreigners.
3) A fear of foreigners or strangers.


Can you refute the above definition? You've expressed being fearful... you've made it clear who/what you are afraid of. That's it... that's the whole definition.

There's a common misconception that "xenophobic" and "racist" are synonymous -- I actually recall having quite a heated discussion about the distinction on this very forum several years ago. They're not the same thing.

Someone who is racist will no doubt be a xenophobic.

Someone who is xenophobic will almost certainly say things that are either intentionally or unintentionally racist.

But there is a subtle distinction in the reasoning.

(Either way it's bad reasoning)

The stories are all true. Call it how you like.

[user104658]

The stories are all true. Call it how you like.

What stories are "all" true?

[Vanessa]

What stories are "all" true?

I posted the links. Believe what you want.

[Parmy]

The horrible Muslims need to sit down and be quiet and let the coked up racists destroy their communities and assault their families, why can’t white people attempt to burn groups of people alive in peace?!

It's this mocking tone on anyone with an understandable fear that stops discussion that will never see things solved.

Anyone could now uplift what Liam just tyoes and post it on a left wing site, or share it at a mosque and everyone would think a right wing racist had typed it, when all it really was, was Liam trying to be funny but only looking childish.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don’t think Vanessa or anyone else on here (bar some trolls) believe this. I think this is the narrative that the extreme left push to try and diminish and demonise the very understandable point that others believe in.

Vanessa is an immigrant right? I am too and most of us who post on here who are deemed right wing extremists or racist or xenophobic come from very mixed backgrounds. Most of us aren’t posting just cause we see **** on the internet and get mind controlled by it, it’s things we have experienced in person

For a community that is so against judgment and labelling, the left sure does love to label anything that is not what they believe, racist or ignorant or xenophobic or transphobic etc

As someone who is queer and genuinely bang in the middle with my political beliefs, it’s sad to see that there are so many of my lgbt family members ready to attack and demonize someone just for having a different opinion

We know who the trolls are. We know they are ignorant and hateful. But not everyone who thinks they have a valid point is a piece of ****

You're entitled to believe what you like. Genuinely, but you can't pretend to be smack bang in the middle when your framing is "extreme left (who haven't done anything at all in this other than defend mosques and communities) Vs concerned citizens."

Being in immigrant doesn't absolve anything. All of us are immigrants. These lands were German and French. Then Roman and Vikings. The only issue is how many generations.

[user104658]

I posted the links. Believe what you want.

I'm certainly not going to look at a few stories and suddenly start fearing immigrants? It doesn't really matter if the stories are true or not. I hear horrendous stories about all sorts of people, every day, unfortunately.

Maybe that's it? Maybe you'd be less easily scared by stories about immigrants if you were aware of how many perfectly native perfectly British people are also absolute monsters.

It's not most people is the positive thing to know. Beyond that? It's not where people are from or what they look like that makes them scary.

[Parmy]

So by definition Xenophobia is an illness, the same as someone having a fear of clowns or wasps etc..

Surely they cant be discriminated against for that.

[Parmy]

You're entitled to believe what you like. Genuinely, but you can't pretend to be smack bang in the middle when your framing is "extreme left (who haven't done anything at all in this other than defend mosques and communities) Vs concerned citizens."

And vandalize equipment and threaten the reporters if they dont leave town, or attack a pub full of people enjoying an afternoons karaoke..dont forget those 2, I'm sure theres others as well.

Fairs fair

[user104658]

So by definition Xenophobia is an illness, the same as someone having a fear of clowns or wasps etc..

Surely they cant be discriminated against for that.

A phobia isn't an illness it's a firmly ingrained set of usually-incorrect beliefs either conscious or subconscious, that will have a root cause. In the case of xenophobia, that root cause is often "scary stories" and propaganda.

Also phobias are irrational fears and can be rationalised and if not removed, at least put in proper context.

Severe phobias will often involve a trauma response and that's a bit trickier to deal with, you can't just think your way out of trauma, HOWEVER it's extremely unlikely that the vast majority of xenophobia is trauma-based. It's indoctrinated.

[The Slim Reaper]

And vandalize equipment and threaten the reporters if they dont leave town, or attack a pub full of people enjoying an afternoons karaoke..dont forget those 2, I'm sure theres others as well.

Fairs fair

Nothing to do with the left at all. The only leftist presence I've seen at all, were the trade union and Antifa flags, outside the Liverpool mosque on Sunday evening.

I can be critical of the left, but not when they are a mirage.

[Vanessa]

I'm certainly not going to look at a few stories and suddenly start fearing immigrants? It doesn't really matter if the stories are true or not. I hear horrendous stories about all sorts of people, every day, unfortunately.

Maybe that's it? Maybe you'd be less easily scared by stories about immigrants if you were aware of how many perfectly native perfectly British people are also absolute monsters.

It's not most people is the positive thing to know. Beyond that? It's not where people are from or what they look like that makes them scary.
I've said that both sides are dangerous.

[Parmy]

Nothing to do with the left at all. The only leftist presence I've seen at all, were the trade union and Antifa flags, outside the Liverpool mosque on Sunday evening.

I can be critical of the left, but not when they are a mirage.

Antifa have been everywhere stocking up trouble. From Plymouth to bolton..and can be seen in some live feeds I've posted, and also outside the pub in birmingham...they were hurling bricks last night in plymouth, intact they were the first to start hurling bricks last night in plymouth, I posted the live link if you dont believe me.

[The Slim Reaper]

Antifa have been everywhere stocking up trouble. From Plymouth to bolton..can be seen in most live feeds I've posted.

Of course. Wouldn't surprise me if these race riots are an Antifa-led false flag.

[user104658]

In the context of almost every modern event, "right" and "left" have been almost entirely meaningless. They've become loose catch-all terms for a clear social division that has piss all to do with the classic 4-point political compass.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD

Said PM Starmer is to hold another Cobra Meeting
tonight.


And LBC News

Said in Belfast they are considering to use Water Cannon

[Parmy]

Please dont edit title again, my initial post was about two tier policing until you merged the threads..


Thank you.

[The Slim Reaper]

James please edit the thread title.

[Parmy]

SkyNewsHD

Said PM Starmer is to hold another Cobra Meeting
tonight.


And LBC News

Said in Belfast they are considering to use Water Cannon


He should be updating the public on the sudden muslim uprisings as well as the numbers arrested for rioting.

[Parmy]

James please edit the thread title.

I will just delete all my posts and you will all live in denial on the matter...:shrug:

My thread was about a peaceful protest that the police hijacked, and 2 tier policing is an intregal part of the discussion.. no matter what old scrotum face on lbc says.

[The Slim Reaper]

I will just delete all my posts and you will all live in denial on the matter...:shrug:

My thread was about a peaceful protest that the police hijacked, and 2 tier policing is an intregal part of the discussion.. no matter what old scrotum face on lbc says.

James please delete all parmy's posts :smug:

[Parmy]

Can slim be given a taste of the thread discussion ban stick James maybe for 24hours, he seems determined to derail the discussion hes joined half way through

[Oliver_W]

Both siding race riots is quite the take. Would one side be out there at all if the other wasn't rampaging through communities?

The horrible Muslims need to sit down and be quiet and let the coked up racists destroy their communities and assault their families, why can’t white people attempt to burn groups of people alive in peace?!
Aggression from either side is bad.

Attacking people unprovoked and gathering with weapons is never acceptable.

[The Slim Reaper]

Can slim be given a taste of the thread discussion ban stick James maybe for 24hours, he seems determined to derail the discussion hes joined half way through

James make it 48hrs to teach me a proper lesson.

[Vanessa]

Aggression from either side is bad.

Attacking people unprovoked and gathering with weapons is never acceptable.
Totally agree with you.

[Vanessa]

He should be updating the public on the sudden muslim uprisings as well as the numbers arrested for rioting.

That part is being ignored. So frustrating.

[Oliver_W]

He should be updating the public on the sudden muslim uprisings as well as the numbers arrested for rioting.

That part is being ignored. So frustrating.

But they're "protecting their communities", according to Liam.

[arista]

James please delete all parmy's posts :smug:


Why?

[GoldHeart]

Aggression from either side is bad.

Attacking people unprovoked and gathering with weapons is never acceptable.

:clap1:

I don't know how anyone can support this behaviour.

There's defending your community,and then there's going out provoking and looking for trouble.

I honestly feel sorry for any innocent person caught up in this angry mob of dumb angry violence, black ,white ,Asian etc . It sounds like some people are minding their own business...and are still getting targeted :umm2: .

[The Slim Reaper]

Why?

I will just delete all my posts and you will all live in denial on the matter...:shrug:

My thread was about a peaceful protest that the police hijacked, and 2 tier policing is an intregal part of the discussion.. no matter what old scrotum face on lbc says.

.

[bots]

Please dont edit title again, my initial post was about two tier policing until you merged the threads..


Thank you.

it seems to me that the police are being bombarded by missiles from all sides, so it's hardly 2 tier

[Vanessa]

:clap1:

I don't know how anyone can support this behaviour.

There's defending your community,and then there's going out provoking and looking for trouble.

I honestly feel sorry for any innocent person caught up in this angry mob of dumb angry violence, black ,white ,Asian etc . It sounds like some people are minding their own business...and are still getting targeted :umm2: .
Yes people who are minding their own business are also targeted.

[joeysteele]

Well the Muslim communities did not start this.

It was first a lie that a Muslim immigrant had killed those children.
Blatant lie and misinformation.

These mindless morons then took to Southport's streets.
Causing damage and violence even just as the relatives were grieving for their losses.

They've now made it a nationwide rioting happening, causing damage and violence even against the police.
Trying to get into Mosques or places housing asylum seekers to burn them down immaterial of any people in them.
Despite being told that the original information was wrong and lies.

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

I certainly don't blame both sides, that to me is trying to justify the original rioting probably.

I'm pleased it's being looked at that there possibly could be a terrorism crime scenario in this now.
Not a chance I'll express any sympathy for the morons who have started all this off hijacking murders of 3 children as a justification.
That's is sick and depraved.

Today should have been the relief in Southport for all the children hospitalised now going home.
Yet what there is, is these moronic rioters still taking to the streets in towns and cities, terrorising whatever community is in the area they're rioting.
Still committing violence against the Police.

Would I even want to have any support, understanding or defence of these mindless rioters.
NOT A CHANCE, I'd feel nothing but shame at myself if I did.
They're the real danger NOW on the streets of the UK.
Vile and despicable.

[Oliver_W]

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

How is targeting uninvolved people retaliation?

[joeysteele]

How is targeting uninvolved people retaliation?

Try to deflect all you may Oliver.

This week has turned into nothing but violence and hate by an attempt of frightening mob rule
By those WHO started it all.
These rioters.
You'll get no detracting or excusing of any of that from me.

[Oliver_W]

Try to deflect all you may Oliver.

This week has turned into nothing but violence and hate by an attempt of frightening mob rule
By those WHO started it all.
These rioters.
You'll get no detracting or excusing of any of that from me.

I'm not deflecting, both sides should be condemned when they commit violence.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, including those carrying out "retaliatory" attacks, who should be condemned just as hard.

[Vanessa]

I'm not deflecting, both sides should be condemned when they commit violence.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, including those carrying out "retaliatory" attacks, who should be condemned just as hard.

I couldn't agree more.
People who are just minding their own business are also being travelled and that's not fair.

[MTVN]

i want to know what the rioters and those that support them expect to achieve. The immigrants are here and they can't do anything about that now. What does attacking them and or the police and or property achieve?

It's not going to change the mind of the government. What may change the governments mind is peaceful protest against the government, If the numbers are big enough, maybe they will listen. Violence and destruction wont achieve anything

I think there's probably a few different explanations:

- the violence is an end in itself as an outlet for suppressed rage. Bit like football hooliganism
- it'll create an atmosphere of intimidation and fear for migrant communities and other races. Make them more reluctant to walk the streets, open businesses, stay in the country etc.
- some of the very hardcore Nazis genuinely want a race war and think this will advance that

They're not really interested in influencing government policy. Many of these rioters would be more than happy to see all our institutions crumble

[MTVN]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

[Oliver_W]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

:love:

[The Slim Reaper]

Well the Muslim communities did not start this.

It was first a lie that a Muslim immigrant had killed those children.
Blatant lie and misinformation.

These mindless morons then took to Southport's streets.
Causing damage and violence even just as the relatives were grieving for their losses.

They've now made it a nationwide rioting happening, causing damage and violence even against the police.
Trying to get into Mosques or places housing asylum seekers to burn them down immaterial of any people in them.
Despite being told that the original information was wrong and lies.

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

I certainly don't blame both sides, that to me is trying to justify the original rioting probably.

I'm pleased it's being looked at that there possibly could be a terrorism crime scenario in this now.
Not a chance I'll express any sympathy for the morons who have started all this off hijacking murders of 3 children as a justification.
That's is sick and depraved.

Today should have been the relief in Southport for all the children hospitalised now going home.
Yet what there is, is these moronic rioters still taking to the streets in towns and cities, terrorising whatever community is in the area they're rioting.
Still committing violence against the Police.

Would I even want to have any support, understanding or defence of these mindless rioters.
NOT A CHANCE, I'd feel nothing but shame at myself if I did.
They're the real danger NOW on the streets of the UK.
Vile and despicable.

Good post, Joey.

I hope now that the election is finished, we can get back to normal, my brother.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUUApbrXkAA_bE2?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

Great example of the Muslim community and one I am more familar with than yobs telling people to stay out

[Parmy]

it seems to me that the police are being bombarded by missiles from all sides, so it's hardly 2 tier

It's a shame they only face one way though.

[Parmy]

Great example of the Muslim community and one I am more familar with than yobs telling people to stay out

I 2nd that.

[Parmy]

A youtuber arrested for standing on a pavement after being told hes ok there..today, earlier on before any trouble..along with about 8 others I noticed before his arrest.


https://www.youtube.com/live/-v7aD82CzLA?si=JKx5u5Gn9JKMvlPN




2 tier policing.

[Parmy]

1min 30 seconds into this new video, a masked antifa member throws a bottle at people, right in front of a policeman.The copper grabs him and is pinned by 2 other coppers. They let him go, didnt even remove his mask for the cameras.


2 tier policing.

https://youtu.be/iT-nN-x5jIs?si=cRvRBXZ1-mOspZJv
@parmysmythbusters.

[GoldHeart]

1min 30 seconds into this new video, a masked antifa member throws a bottle at people, right in front of a policeman.The copper grabs him and is pinned by 2 other coppers. They let him go, didnt even remove his mask for the cameras.


2 tier policing.

https://youtu.be/iT-nN-x5jIs?si=cRvRBXZ1-mOspZJv
@parmysmythbusters.

I'm not sitting through a 1 hour video Parm, I fast forwarded to the guy in a pink shirt getting knocked down by a police shield.

[Parmy]

I'm not sitting through a 1 hour video Parm, I fast forwarded to the guy in a pink shirt getting knocked down by a police shield.

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.

[GoldHeart]

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.

Well this will only bite the police in their bum ,if they're treating people differently :bored:.

Anyone kicking off causing disruption & violence should all be treated the same.

[GoldHeart]

Ok tried watching the first 3 mins of the video parmnion , I noticed a cop handing something to his hand ..I don't know what this is either :conf:. I heard the chanting,and glass breaking.

[Parmy]

Ok tried watching the first 3 mins of the video parmnion , I noticed a cop handing something to his hand ..I don't know what this is either :conf:.



It's two tier policing. At best.

[user104658]

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.

"Antifa member" - I couldn't see his membership card Parmy can you point that out?

[Parmy]

"Antifa member" - I couldn't see his membership card Parmy can you point that out?


You figure it out.

https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/news/plymouth-news/anti-fascist-group-cornwall-confront-9461691

[Alf]

How about this for an answer:

Media companies have regurgitated these anti-Muslim/immigration talking points, often fed to them by politicians, so why would they be open to the media coming into their communities now, just to rubber neck at the violence?

Jonathan Ashworth made a completely racist comment about sending people back to Bangladesh (as was Starmer, by the way) in the run up to the election, and you wonder why he might not be welcome?He found out that the myth of no go zones really do exist

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/17/88225667-0-image-m-11_1722963169042.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/16/88223357-0-image-a-22_1722959788411.jpg

[Vanessa]

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.
Yes I did see that. I wonder what that was that he handed him :suspect:

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes I did see that. I wonder what that was that he handed him :suspect:

I think the policeman reported on the news that it was a note that said, and I quote "The streets must flow with the blood of the infidels. Loving the 2 tiered policing, lock all the honkys up and keep up the good work. Allahu Akbar"

[Parmy]

I'm sure I've seen every active member of TIBB in the first 45 minutes of this video. (A unique look at the afternoon in Nottingham city centre) interviews on both sides for 45 minutes. Then the bombshell hits.

Fast forward to the 44 minute mark to see the real cause of the start of large scale trouble.


Thia guy is independent..just like me.

https://youtu.be/H-S8H4FZWU8?si=du6H9N_-ae2NqjTB

Ps. I thought of sherriff and goldheart when the black and white dreadlocked couple were interviewed.

No violence for the first 45 minutes.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUU0_QpXUAEtQXr?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-eabcfb0d-070b-4fd6-9408-425b7a978a9b.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-820df61c-8d01-4edd-baa9-af846a7303e4.png

[user104658]

James to join the crackdown on the Social Media Sewer by having a scrub of the TiBB Toilet?

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/d321/live/be9a5870-5439-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/21/88234317-0-image-m-6_1722975743274.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/d3d7/live/6a912c30-543a-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

[arista]

SkyNewsHD had a Clip
F. The Jews shouted by a Muslim Man on a Bike.

The Lady Reporter apologised right away.

But the Tweet got deleted


Was debated on GBnewsHD "headliners"
One Hour ago

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/5e6c/live/526c1280-543c-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/acf0/live/df46ac60-5437-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/d171/live/4fe145c0-5438-11ef-b2d2-cdb23d5d7c5b.jpg.webp

[arista]

Elon attacking Starmer again

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[The Slim Reaper]

James to join the crackdown on the Social Media Sewer by having a scrub of the TiBB Toilet?

I know this is tongue in cheek (to a degree :laugh:), but I think there has always been a denial that these attitudes really existed on here, minus the trolling. I hope now that the forum has gone full mask off, that there is some quiet reflection.

[arista]

I know this is tongue in cheek (to a degree :laugh:), but I think there has always been a denial that these attitudes really existed on here, minus the trolling. I hope now that the forum has gone full mask off, that there is some quiet reflection.


Slim
Labour gets Tougher?

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-f758fd9a-1e62-4378-8db8-557a8fdadd89.png

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/18/88226119-0-image-a-31_1722963913820.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/19/88143493-13715181-A_car_burns_after_being_overturned_during_an_anti_ immigration_pr-a-145_1722969485246.jpg



Monday why pick on that car?

Was it an easy size?

[arista]

Great Report on SkyNewsHD

Showed Birmingham
with loads of Armed Muslims
(Armed with metal poles etc)


They thought there was going to be an attack.
there was not.


But People are asking why Police left them Armed
with Metal poles????????

[Mystic Mock]

https://twitter.com/lowles_nick/status/1820705101129846951?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Are these people feeling okay?:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

I'm pleased to learn that someone on Facebook has been charged over Facebook posts deemed to be inciting racial hatred.

GOOD.

This should be looked at more, get at the armchair racists too.

This rioting started from lies and misinformation against Muslims.
It was lies .

Anyone supporting or defending these mindless rioters are just helping enable them.
Good ALL social media outlets should be being looked at very carefully as to what is posted and by whom.

What did they exactly say?

[Mystic Mock]

Far right not necessarily, racist not entirely.

Xenophobic yes. Anyone spreading fear and scare stories about immigrants in the last few days is 100% being xenophobic.

Xenophobia
noun
1) A fear of strangers or foreigners.
2) A strong antipathy or aversion to strangers or foreigners.
3) A fear of foreigners or strangers.


Can you refute the above definition? You've expressed being fearful... you've made it clear who/what you are afraid of. That's it... that's the whole definition.

There's a common misconception that "xenophobic" and "racist" are synonymous -- I actually recall having quite a heated discussion about the distinction on this very forum several years ago. They're not the same thing.

Someone who is racist will no doubt be a xenophobic.

Someone who is xenophobic will almost certainly say things that are either intentionally or unintentionally racist.

But there is a subtle distinction in the reasoning.

(Either way it's bad reasoning)

I've always thought the difference between Xenophobia and Racism was that Xenophobia isn't really a prejudice against the colour of the victim's skin, but purely on their nationality.

[Mystic Mock]

He found out that the myth of no go zones really do exist

Tbf there are white no go zone areas in this country too.

[Mystic Mock]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GUU0_QpXUAEtQXr?format=jpg&name=900x900

:umm2:

[joeysteele]

What did they exactly say?

I don't know Mock.
I have nothing to do with Facebook myself
I can't bear it, there's some real crazy people on there

It's part of a criminal case though and he's been charged.
It was stated on the news it was in relation to inciting racial hatred.

Social media does need looking at, intelligence investigators should be able to identify those who veil their racism and who also do veiled justification of these criminal rioters too.
Bringing criminal, violent and racist disorder to the streets of the UK and assaulting the Police in the process.
Anyone supporting it in any shape or form, is helping aiding and abetting it in my opinion.

[Cherie]

:umm2:

what was the false information that would make her post that? unbelievable hope whoever has their kids with her takes them off her

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know Mock.
I have nothing to do with Facebook myself
I can't bear it, there's some real crazy people on there

It's part of a criminal case though and he's been charged.
It was stated on the news it was in relation to inciting racial hatred.

Social media does need looking at, intelligence investigators should be able to identify those who veil their racism and who also do veiled justification of these criminal rioters too.
Bringing criminal, violent and racist disorder to the streets of the UK and assaulting the Police in the process.
Anyone supporting it in any shape or form, is helping aiding and abetting it in my opinion.

Well if he has said something similar to what the Tory guy's Wife has said, then he needs locking up imo.

[Mystic Mock]

what was the false information that would make her post that? unbelievable hope whoever has their kids with her takes them off her

She's very clearly lying, and unfortunately I do have to agree with your point at the end, because we can't be having children getting radicalized by their own parents.

[Alf]

Two tier

From the horses mouth

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[GoldHeart]

Two tier

From the horses mouth

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I really hope all this ends soon , I wish we'd get back to some form of normality.

[Vanessa]

Two tier

From the horses mouth

1820881508413899082
I knew it. This is why they don't go to Birmingham. It's one of their no go zones
Not to worry, I'm not in a hurry to go there.
But I feel sorry for those living there. They have no choice.

[Vanessa]

I really hope all this ends soon , I wish we'd get back to some form of normality.

Sone cities are on go zones areas for the police. I also don't go there. I don't feel comfortable and now I know why.

[Mystic Mock]

I really hope all this ends soon , I wish we'd get back to some form of normality.

Same here.

[arista]

Typical of GMBHD itv

Had a live debate of shutting down internet

But it was 2 women?

Put a Man in there


I am not anti Women/
But ITV used 2 women making it a silly debate

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[joeysteele]

Same here.

Social media is fuelling it as much as anything else.

There's now being made known that lawyers who work with asylum seekers as well as doing their other work.
Are now learning the lawyers names and addresses are being shared with these moronic criminals.
For them to target too with their violence and destructive disruption.

Anyone supporting in any veiled way these creatures on the streets.
Are indirectly aiding and abetting as to mob rule.

I really hope terrorism is made part of probable charges on this.

The only people in my view who should NOT be walking the streets of the UK are these moronic destructively violent criminal rioters.
Anyone I come across making veiled justification for them at all, if I know them,they'll be lost to me for life.

Social media and what people are saying on it does need at this time much stronger investigation in my view now.

[Alf]

Social media is fuelling it as much as anything else.

There's now being made known that lawyers who work with asylum seekers as well as doing their other work.
Are now learning the lawyers names and addresses are being shared with these moronic criminals.
For them to target too with their violence and destructive disruption.

Anyone supporting in any veiled way these creatures on the streets.
Are indirectly aiding and abetting as to mob rule.

I really hope terrorism is made part of probable charges on this.

The only people in my view who should NOT be walking the streets of the UK are these moronic destructively violent criminal rioters.
Anyone I come across making veiled justification for them at all, if I know them,they'll be lost to me for life.

Social media and what people are saying on it does need at this time much stronger investigation in my view now.You are the villian character from George Orwell's 1984.

If only you could be as angry at a cold bloodied child murderer than you are at people having the freedom to speak their mind.

[arista]

You are the villian character from George Orwell's 1984.

If only you could be as angry at a cold bloodied child murderer than you are at people having the freedom to speak their mind.


Great Film.

[joeysteele]

You are the villian character from George Orwell's 1984.

If only you could be as angry at a cold bloodied child murderer than you are at people having the freedom to speak their mind.

Don't talk nonsense.
I hate all child murderers.
Have never said anything different on here in 13 years.

This isn't about child murders.
That despicable horror was disgracefully hijacked on LIES and misinformation by these criminal rioters.

[arista]

[hijacked on LIES and misinformation by these criminal rioters.]

Yes Joey,
good point

[Alf]

[hijacked on LIES and misinformation by these criminal rioters.]

Yes Joey,
good pointIt's an awful point.

[Vanessa]

They can't shut down social media. This isn't the Soviet Union.

[Vanessa]

Social media is fuelling it as much as anything else.

There's now being made known that lawyers who work with asylum seekers as well as doing their other work.
Are now learning the lawyers names and addresses are being shared with these moronic criminals.
For them to target too with their violence and destructive disruption.

Anyone supporting in any veiled way these creatures on the streets.
Are indirectly aiding and abetting as to mob rule.

I really hope terrorism is made part of probable charges on this.

The only people in my view who should NOT be walking the streets of the UK are these moronic destructively violent criminal rioters.
Anyone I come across making veiled justification for them at all, if I know them,they'll be lost to me for life.

Social media and what people are saying on it does need at this time much stronger investigation in my view now.
It plays a part, but you can't blame it all on social media.
Anyone carrying weapons needs to be stopped, no matter what race or background.
And this is clearly not happening.
For example : they arrested an old man for comments he made on facebook. But didn't arrest the people carrying machetes and swords. :umm2:

[Liam-]

Someone involved in the attack outside of that pub has been arrested and charged for it, can we stop pretending that white people are victims of an uneven justice system now?

[Alf]

They can't shut down social media. This isn't the Soviet Union.Well you'd like to think that. But Joey, the home secretary and that communist on the ITV clip that Arista posted, are calling for things that just a decade ago we'd have been condeming China for doing.

[Alf]

Someone involved in the attack outside of that pub has been arrested and charged for it, can we stop pretending that white people are victims of an uneven justice system now?What are all their names?

[Vanessa]

Well you'd like to think that. But Joey, the home secretary and that communist on the ITV clip that Arista posted, are calling for things that just a decade ago we'd have been condeming China for doing.
People can use VPN to get round to it.
They would have to shut down the whole internet system and that would have massive implications.

[arista]

Well you'd like to think that. But Joey, the home secretary and that communist on the ITV clip that Arista posted, are calling for things that just a decade ago we'd have been condeming China for doing.


I post hundreds of clips


Which clip Alf?


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[Parmy]

It's all very easy criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

[Vanessa]

It's all very ready criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

I agree. He isn't showing any empathy for the victims of that crime.
Maybe as a lawyer he's got that attitude.
But if you want to win over the public you need to show that you're actually interested in them.
Worse of all he only mentions protecting the muslim community.
What about all the other communities living here in the UK or they don't matter?

[arista]

It's an awful point.

Only to you

[Livia]

It's all very easy criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

I agree with this. If you haven't experienced a complete takeover of your area by Muslims, you really have nothing to say.

[Mystic Mock]

You are the villian character from George Orwell's 1984.

If only you could be as angry at a cold bloodied child murderer than you are at people having the freedom to speak their mind.

Giving people's details away on Social Media to incite violence against them is more than "speaking their mind" imo.

I'm with Joey on that personally.

[Mystic Mock]

Great Film.

I do agree.:laugh:

[arista]

I do agree.:laugh:


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[Vanessa]

But banning social media completely? I'm against it.
It will be like North Korea. You only know what they want you to know.

[Mystic Mock]

It's all very easy criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

I'll be honest and say that you make some fair points, especially speaking from my perspective, my area is largely a very elderly white Christian zone so there's not loads of Muslims where I live (although we did ironically have a Muslim family that used to be our neighbours a couple of years ago, they were really friendly imo) but ultimately it's one family that I have interacted with from the Muslim community since I've been in my teen/adult years.

My point being that I don't necessarily have the same experiences as a lot of these people that you're on about with the Muslim community.

However that still doesn't justify some people trying to burn migrants alive at one of the Holiday Inn's (I think it was in Tamworth ironically) which is where I fail to have sympathy for those individuals that tried to execute that plan.

[Livia]

Social media has done more harm than good imo. It's a new thing, people managed to be ****s to each other before social media, they can ban it for me.

[Mystic Mock]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71seIyPAzbL.__AC_SX300_SY300_QL70_ML2_.jpg



[John Hurt,
Richard Burton,
Gregory Fisher,
Andrew Wilde,
Suzanna Hamilton,
James Walker,
Cyril Cusack,
Phyllis Logan,
Michael Bradford,
David Trevena]

INGSOC.:flutter:

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/esherukwaku/status/1820757733538201614?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Parmy]

I can't really speak for tamworth, but rotherham, when they set fire to the bin, the rioters had already been in the hotel after smashing the windows and doors. What did they do when they got inside, did the go hunting immigrants to lynch? No, all they did was nick 4 chairs and 2 fire extinguishers to use against the police. The bin was then set on fire and pushed against the window of the room they had just left which was now full of police. The police stood by and let the flames fizzle out. The police were thier target, not the immigrants in the rooms upstairs.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/esherukwaku/status/1820757733538201614?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ


Liam that needs its own thread

[arista]

58year old, Fella
Jailed for 3 Years for Violent disorder


All media

[Parmy]

https://twitter.com/esherukwaku/status/1820757733538201614?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

They might if the left wing labour run council does nothing about it.

[Parmy]

No he doesn't raise some good points, it's the same load of racist nonsense that is spouted on this forum ad nauseum.

Never set foot in these areas, have you.

[Liam-]

58year old, Fella
Jailed for 3 Years for Violent disorder


All media

That’s more like it

[The Slim Reaper]

Never set foot in these areas, have you.

I live in Birmingham, the scariest Muslim city allah ever created.

[arista]

That’s more like it


And 2 Others Jailed Today


They should show them

[arista]

I live in Birmingham, the scariest Muslim city allah ever created.


Watch your back

[arista]

CPS was just
Live outside Liverpool Crown court

[Livia]

Liam that needs its own thread

Oh leave him, Arista, whataboutery is all he's got.

[arista]

Today Possible Riots


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/11/88256509-13717363-image-a-32_1723025972232.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

Watch your back

Why? I've not had one single problem with a Muslim in the entire time I've lived in the city. Not. One.

[arista]

Why? I've not had one single problem with a Muslim in the entire time I've lived in the city. Not. One.


OK

[arista]

Social Media Post.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/21/88233821-0-image-a-1_1722976084957.jpg


Thats why Slim
I said watch your back

[The Slim Reaper]

Social Media Post.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/21/88233821-0-image-a-1_1722976084957.jpg


Thats why Slim
I said watch your back

Thank you for warning me about the racist far right, Arista. I appreciate your concern, so I'll definitely watch my step around the racists.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/21/88233761-0-image-a-2_1722976087853.jpg

[Livia]

These ridiculous morons have put the discussion back years. That's assuming we're ever allowed to have a discussion.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/01/88242465-13716061-image-a-37_1722989748458.jpg


Monday Holiday Inn
Injured Officer Saved

[The Slim Reaper]

These ridiculous morons have put the discussion back years. That's assuming we're ever allowed to have a discussion.

You never want to discuss anything. Most of your posts are one or 2 lines, that never offer anything beyond some attempted quip or putdown.

[arista]

You never want to discuss anything. Most of your posts are one or 2 lines, that never offer anything beyond some attempted quip or putdown.


Slim

It is great to have brief posts


You Punk Bully

[Livia]

You never want to discuss anything. Most of your posts are one or 2 lines, that never offer anything beyond some attempted quip or putdown.

I wasn't talking about discussing it on TiBB. In any case, I don't want to discuss anything with you. Please stop replying.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/01/88242469-13716061-image-a-38_1722989788102.jpg

Monday Holiday Inn Express

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim

It is great to have brief posts


You Punk Bully

I agree and I also make a lot of short posts. But if I want to discuss something, then it would take at least a couple of paragraphs.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/06/16/88223207-13715079-image-m-2_1722959515296.jpg


[Armchair thug is first to be convicted for
Facebook posts trying to stir up racial hatred
during riots: 'Family man', 28, faces jail
after urging mob to 'smash the F' out of
migrant hotel while sat at home with broken heel]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13715079/first-conviction-riot-facebook-posts.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13715079/first-conviction-riot-facebook-posts.html

[Parmy]

I live in Birmingham, the scariest Muslim city allah ever created.

Point proven

[Livia]

They've not had any delays naming the violent white rioters.

[user104658]

But banning social media completely? I'm against it.
It will be like North Korea. You only know what they want you to know.

Don't ban social media, ban the social media algorithms that create content rabbit-holes. That's the major problem -- especially because a lot of people aren't even aware that this is how social media works. Free speech is fine, manipulated social narratives have nothing to do with free speech.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/12/88258753-0-image-m-22_1723030391874.jpg

[Self-pity of far-right thugs who brought chaos
to Britain's streets: ANOTHER rioter cries
in court and haulier, 58,
who punched cops says he's a 'fool'
as he's jailed for three years with
dozens facing justice today]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13718175/Rioters-charged-appear-court-protesters.html


120 have been Charged so far

Over 300 to go

[user104658]

Remember when there was a narrative that it was teenage scamps causing most of the chaos and then, shock and great surprise, it turned out to be drunk middle aged men, tomato faces glowing like beacons to indicate their sky high blood pressure.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's all very easy criticising these rioters sitting at home with not one muslim in your street, unlike the places that has seen the worst violence. These residents have suffered years and years of forced integration. Communities from the poorest areas of the uk, when all they had to get by was a sense of community spirit. S community spirit that's been eroded away by integrating people who dont even want to integrate, into their communities.

When we hear of rape, and fear of walking the street, these are the voices we've heard, the people going through it, the voices shut down for being racist by people sitting comfortable and warm in their nice houses, with their nice jobs and nice futures to look forward to.


Then we have a man in charge, a man who labelled the voices as far right, further alienating them from society. A man who visited southport to lay a wreath and shake hands with the emergency service first responders. Mo mention of visiting families of the children, no mention of the real people who were first at the scene, the public. No he mentions the emergency services only so he can make a very bold claim that the first officers to respond to the tragic killings were then subjected to missiles and abuse from the rioters.. really, a police force under your government sent those officers back out to work after witnessing such horrors!!

Do ask yourselves this!

Why hasnt he visited the families yet, is it because they may have sympathy with the rioters, their neighbours, and don't want him anywhere near them. Or
something else!

1) The fact you think having a Muslim in your street would offer a a new perspective on race rioters.

2) The fact you think integration with Muslim communities is a bad thing that needs to be forced.

3) the fact you think Muslims are incapable of community spirit.

4) The fact you link Muslims with rape and fear.

I'm happy to have a conversation with you about these points if you wish.

[GoldHeart]

Giving people's details away on Social Media to incite violence against them is more than "speaking their mind" imo.

I'm with Joey on that personally.

Yeah isn't that doxxing and illegal.

[The Slim Reaper]

Point proven

How does that prove your point? I know white, brown, and black Muslims. I know the very people you are claiming I don't know, and I still don't want to kill them.

[user104658]

Yeah isn't that doxxing and illegal.

I may be wrong but I don't think linking a photograph to a name is considered doxxing (i.e. seeing a picture of someone and putting a name to the face).

Posting personal details without consent is doxxing. I'm fairly sure putting a "name to a face" is not considered doxxing though - so if a clear picture of someone is online, e.g. someone rioting, you can say "Oh that's a picture of [full name]".

If you said "That's [full name] from [street, town]" that would be doxxing.

It's also doxxing to put a picture or real name to an anonymous account if that person hasn't already done so themselves.

[Parmy]

How does that prove your point? I know white, brown, and black Muslims. I know the very people you are claiming I don't know, and I still don't want to kill them.

It proves you havnt set foot in the areas I specified.. saying you live in birmingham means **** all

[Parmy]

Slim the gang rapes and grooming of british white kids In the area of rotherham, probably the worst hit area for the riots, by members of the muslim community, has stopped any chance of a community being built where the 2 sides can show any sort of community spirit in the poorest of areas. Which are the ones being forced to integrate..

That's not racist to say, nor is it saying muslims cant show community spirit..I said there once was a community spirit in those areas, but now the 2 cant community spirit together...

[user104658]

It proves you havnt set foot in the areas I specified.. saying you live in birmingham means **** all

Which is it though. Does it prove he hasn't set foot in those areas, or does it mean **** all? If the latter is true then it can't possibly prove anything either way.

[Parmy]

Which is it though. Does it prove he hasn't set foot in those areas, or does it mean **** all? If the latter is true then it can't possibly prove anything either way.

It means he hasnt worn the shoes of the people hes expecting to have to just get on with it.

[Parmy]

And you are just as bad TS..you get clever and cocky spouting about tomato faces and flag waving hump buckets...

If you yourself have ever ventured into a muslim families household you would soon notice their nations flags hanging in every room.

People are a lot more similar than you think.

[user104658]

Slim the gang rapes and grooming of british white kids In the area of rotherham, probably the worst hit area for the riots, by members of the muslim community, has stopped any chance of a community being built where the 2 sides can show any sort of community spirit in the poorest of areas. Which are the ones being forced to integrate..

That's not racist to say, nor is it saying muslims cant show community spirit..I said there once was a community spirit in those areas, but now the 2 cant community spirit together...

Stating that a community can't be built inclusive of any Muslim people whatsoever because of the actions (albeit, absolutely horrendous actions) of one group of Muslim people is... definitely racism. It really quite succinctly describes exactly what racism, and racial profiling, is.

The shocking mishandling of that situation by local councils and police (mostly not Muslims) is the main issue here also as I've said before -- disgustingly, unfortunately, tragically -- grooming and pimping gangs of every colour and creed exist in every large town and city in the UK. Gangs of white people groom and pimp teenage girls Parmy. You might not like to believe that "folks that look like us" can be as monstrous as "folks who look like them" but I'm afraid we don't live in a very nice world and it's full of dangerous, disgusting blokes in every shade.

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim the gang rapes and grooming of british white kids In the area of rotherham, probably the worst hit area for the riots, by members of the muslim community, has stopped any chance of a community being built where the 2 sides can show any sort of community spirit in the poorest of areas. Which are the ones being forced to integrate..

That's not racist to say, nor is it saying muslims cant show community spirit..I said there once was a community spirit in those areas, but now the 2 cant community spirit together...

I agree. the grooming gangs are fcuking heinous, but they don't represent all Muslims. In the same way all white grooming gangs don't make you or I paedophile groomers. The biggest PDF ring in Birmingham was smashed wide open recently. All white people. Patriots of Birmingham didn't feel the need to "protect are wimin and kids" - which in itself is dripping with the same misogyny they're protesting against. Women are not property for any group of people. They do not belong to us, and are not our women.

If you think any religion, race, or location makes any group more susceptible to these issues, then you're sadly mistaken

[Parmy]

Stating how people of the poor areas of rotherham who are living with it are feeling, is not racist..

[The Slim Reaper]

And you are just as bad TS..you get clever and cocky spouting about tomato faces and flag waving hump buckets...

If you yourself have ever ventured into a muslim families household you would soon notice their nations flags hanging in every room.

People are a lot more similar than you think.

Do you think the Galahads in Benidorm hang the St George in their living rooms, because anyone who's ever been to these areas of other countries populated by British immigrants, knows all too well the truth.

[user104658]

It means he hasnt worn the shoes of the people hes expecting to have to just get on with it.

He didn't elaborate on that so it doesn't prove anything or mean anything. I will agree that saying "I live in Birmingham" certainly isn't proof that he DOES have experience of that integration on its own as a statement... but it certainly doesnt prove that he doesn't, either.

And you are just as bad TS..you get clever and cocky spouting about tomato faces and flag waving hump buckets...

If you yourself have ever ventured into a muslim families household you would soon notice their nations flags hanging in every room.

People are a lot more similar than you think.

It's not about the flags it's about the reason for flying them and the symbolism Parmy. The flag of England and increasingly the Union Jack has become associated with a certain political statement. The Cross for decades, Union Jack is more recent (roughly since Brexit tbh). I said in another thread I actually think it's sad that that has happened - that association shouldn't be there - I don't think anything of people flying a Saltire, or a Stars & Stripes, or really the flags of most nations, and people SHOULD be able to do that without the unfortunate associations with bigotry.

It's no one's fault but the people who hijacked those flags for their political purposes though.

[The Slim Reaper]

It means he hasnt worn the shoes of the people hes expecting to have to just get on with it.

I had a flat in Moseley, which is right next door to spark brook, and a 5 minute walk from the balti triangle, one of the main areas of Muslim population in Birmingham. Most of my street (church road, B13) was Muslim.

[Parmy]

So labelling anyone who is proud enough to actually feel enough pride in england that they would hang a st Georges cross as right wing, just have to get on with it or take it down because it's been hijacked by the far right, and the racists?

Well surely if thats the case, the majority of law abiding muslims just have to get on with the hatred aimed at them cause some of them gang rape kids..



Anyway, what I will say is , if my words are racist then i apologise it is not my intent.

I will also say I've been in over 1000 muslim households, and as i have previously stated on TIBB, i would rather be in them, helping them than the household of an Englishman.

[The Slim Reaper]

So labelling anyone who is proud enough to actually feel enough pride in england that they would hang a st Georges cross as right wing, just have to get on with it or take it down because it's been hijacked by the far right, and the racists?

Well surely if thats the case, the majority of law abiding muslims just have to get on with the hatred aimed at them cause some of them gang rape kids..



Anyway, what I will say is , if my words are racist then i apologise it is not my intent.

I will also say I've been in over 1000 muslim households, and as i have previously stated on TIBB, i would rather be in them, helping them than the household of an Englishman.

I didn't say it was racist to display a st george. You said all Muslims have flags of their own countries in their homes. So I was just pointing out, that English people who are immigrants (not ex pats) in other countries, also have flags of their own country.

Exactly the same thing, yet one is failure to integrate, the other is pride. Do you not see how that's racist? Even though you don't intend to be racist, inherent or subconcious racism can still exist.

[user104658]

So labelling anyone who is proud enough to actually feel enough pride in england that they would hang a st Georges cross as right wing, just have to get on with it or take it down because it's been hijacked by the far right, and the racists?

Depends why they're hanging it, doesn't it. Usually you can tell the difference, and we're allowed to say "you're full of ****" when people try the smirking plausible deniability angle. They can say they're not trying to send an "immigrants out" message but no one is compelled to believe that. There are usually other signs :umm2:.

[Parmy]

I had a flat in Moseley, which is right next door to spark brook, and a 5 minute walk from the balti triangle, one of the main areas of Muslim population in Birmingham. Most of my street (church road, B13) was Muslim.

I'm assuming they were already there and you chose to rent that flat, rather than you already being there and all of them moving next to you:shrug:

[Parmy]

I never said having a flag of their country of origin hanging in their houses was them failing to integrate..I was actually using that example to show the 2 sides have more similarities than people think they do.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm assuming they were already there and you chose to rent that flat, rather than you already being there and all of them moving next to you:shrug:

Even worse, I bought a flat on that road, knowing that Muslims lived there already.

Either Muslims are the problem, or they aren't. The fact that they move somewhere should be neither here nor there, and is more text book racism. My white area is being ruined by the brown faces.

If you want to know why these areas are run down, it's because of decades of complete underfunding and neglect by successive governments, purposefully transferring wealth from the poor and working classes, up to the super wealthy and corporations. Again, absolutely nothing to do with Muslims.

[The Slim Reaper]

I never said having a flag of their country of origin hanging in their houses was them failing to integrate..I was actually using that example to show the 2 sides have more similarities than people think they do.

Ok, that's fair. I misunderstood.

[Zizu]

Slim the gang rapes and grooming of british white kids In the area of rotherham, probably the worst hit area for the riots, by members of the muslim community, has stopped any chance of a community being built where the 2 sides can show any sort of community spirit in the poorest of areas. Which are the ones being forced to integrate..

That's not racist to say, nor is it saying muslims cant show community spirit..I said there once was a community spirit in those areas, but now the 2 cant community spirit together...


The thing I dont understand about the grooming gangs with dozens of Asian men from the same community preying on white schoolgirls is…. why their own community/ people / families/ friends in general and the religion leaders let them carry on doing it for years ( often until they are caught and prosecuted) .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Parmy]

I also never said that muslims moving to those areas ran it down, I had already stated they are the poorest areas.

I think we've ran our course now...sorry if I've offended anyone, I'm not the best at wording stuff.


Let's just say the minority on both sides has ****ed it all up for the majority who just want a peaceful life.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/14/88263867-0-image-m-1_1723038648804.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/13/88258697-13718769-Businesses_are_boarded_up_in_North_Finchley_North_ London_today_a-a-37_1723035385774.jpg

[Businesses are boarded up in North Finchley, North London,
today ahead of planned protests]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/13/88258825-13718769-Shops_in_Bristol_board_up_their_windows_today_amid _fears_over_pl-a-39_1723035392475.jpg

[Shops in Bristol board up their windows today
]amid fears over planned demonstrations]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/07/09/88253051-13717363-image-a-16_1723019226604.jpg

[user104658]

TBH I think there is something psychologically different about choosing to fly your home country's flag on your wall (indoors) when you're an expat living in another country, and choosing to do so when you still live in that country. I can see myself having a Scotland flag on the wall if I moved to Australia. I wouldn't have one on my wall... here in Scotland.

I don't think it necessarily means anything but it would definitely make me question what message is being sent.

If I see a Union Jack on a Scottish house I immediately think it's a Unionist message. If I see a Saltire I assume it's a pro-indy statement. When I see a Union Jack in England... pre-2017 I'd have assumed just a Royalist type, post 2017 I unfortunately automatically go to Brexiteer.

Sometimes those assumptions will be wrong but human beings are pattern-seekers. It'll often be correct.

[Cherie]

At least the sentences are harsh so that should be a deterrent

I used to live in Walthamstow, not sure why in particular a march is going through there? Its been regenerated and is pretty upmarket now so its strange, surely they should be marching on Downing Street:shrug:

[user104658]

I used to live in Walthamstow, not sure why in particular a march is going through there? Its been regenerated and is pretty upmarket now so its strange, surely they should be marching on Downing Street:shrug:

Public transport is expensive Cherie :nono:. And if they walk all that way they'll be too tired to smash up Wetherspoons.

[Cherie]

Public transport is expensive Cherie :nono:. And if they walk all that way they'll be too tired to smash up Wetherspoons.

I wonder how well attended they will be now (a) they have given the locations they are attacking...I mean demonstrating in, I would expect a big police presence unless is a red herring and (b) now prison sentences are being handed down

[Niamh.]

TBH I think there is something psychologically different about choosing to fly your home country's flag on your wall (indoors) when you're an expat living in another country, and choosing to do so when you still live in that country. I can see myself having a Scotland flag on the wall if I moved to Australia. I wouldn't have one on my wall... here in Scotland.

I don't think it necessarily means anything but it would definitely make me question what message is being sent.

If I see a Union Jack on a Scottish house I immediately think it's a Unionist message. If I see a Saltire I assume it's a pro-indy statement. When I see a Union Jack in England... pre-2017 I'd have assumed just a Royalist type, post 2017 I unfortunately automatically go to Brexiteer.

Sometimes those assumptions will be wrong but human beings are pattern-seekers. It'll often be correct.

I think anywhere outside of the US flying your country's flag in or on your home is a bit odd while still in that country (unless it's for some occasion) Here in Ireland you'd be much more likely to see county flags hung from houses as more of a GAA thing

[Cherie]

I think anywhere outside of the US flying your countries flag in or on your home is a bit odd while still in that country (unless it's for some occasion) Here in Ireland you'd be much more likely to see county flags hung from houses as more of a GAA thing

Mr C was clearing out the garage yesterday and found two of those red and white not sure what you would call them .... threads....from some final we attended years ago, we dont have an Irish flag though :laugh:

[Parmy]

Perhaps it gives a sense of home when flying the flag abroad.

The Muslim households dont just fly normal flags, they go full on tapestry mode, some really elaborate designing on them. I always asked which country is it, and was always met with a friendly reply.

[Niamh.]

Mr C was clearing out the garage yesterday and found two of those red and white not sure what you would call them .... threads....from some final we attended years ago, we dont have an Irish flag though :laugh:

We have an Irish flag from when Luke was in a Karate competition a few years ago and there were a few different countries competing, we never hung it at home anywhere though :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Perhaps it gives a sense of home when flying the flag abroad.

The Muslim households dont just fly normal flags, they go full on tapestry mode, some really elaborate designing on them. I always asked which country is it, and was always met with a friendly reply.

Well that makes more sense

[bots]

I have some things symbolic of Scotland in the house, but nothing close to a blinking great flag :laugh:

[Cherie]

I have some things symbolic of Scotland in the house, but nothing close to a blinking great flag :laugh:

Admit it you are wrapped in a Union Jack right now

[Niamh.]

Mr C was clearing out the garage yesterday and found two of those red and white not sure what you would call them .... threads....from some final we attended years ago, we dont have an Irish flag though :laugh:

https://www.mckeeversports.ie/cdn/shop/files/PLAITS-red-white-chest.jpg?v=1685440153

[smudgie]

I have Union Jack bunting, metres of it.
Intended to put it up in the kitchen but it’s still in the wrapper.
Also had/have some cushions with it on as well.:shrug:

[bots]

I have Union Jack bunting, metres of it.
Intended to put it up in the kitchen but it’s still in the wrapper.
Also had/have some cushions with it on as well.:shrug:

:fist: :laugh:

[Oliver_W]

The thing I dont understand about the grooming gangs with dozens of Asian men from the same community preying on white schoolgirls is…. why the community in general and the religion leaders let them carry on doing it for years ( often until they are caught and prosecuted) .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Maybe they don't see the behaviour as bad?

[Oliver_W]

1821081813860671503

:love:

#TwoTier

[user104658]

"The arrest of the 46-year-old relates to violent disorder outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Yardley"

:skull: :skull: Gammon-tales, awoo-oo.

[Parmy]

Slim that post you said was the same old racist nonsense...

Fancy discussing the further points I made about jeffrey?

[Oliver_W]

"The arrest of the 46-year-old relates to violent disorder outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Yardley"

:skull: :skull: Gammon-tales, awoo-oo.

Gammon? It was the Asian man with the weapon.

[arista]

I have Union Jack bunting, metres of it.
Intended to put it up in the kitchen but it’s still in the wrapper.
Also had/have some cushions with it on as well.:shrug:


How Nice

[arista]

Gammon? It was the Asian man with the weapon.



Yes Oliver
sort out SB...............

[arista]

12 Men now convicted

[user104658]

Gammon? It was the Asian man with the weapon.

I was referring to: "violent disorder outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Yardley"

One of the most Farage-coded sentences I've ever seen

[Oliver_W]

I was referring to: "violent disorder outside The Clumsy Swan pub in Yardley"

One of the most Farage-coded sentences I've ever seen
How else would you describe the man's conduct?

[Cherie]

I have Union Jack bunting, metres of it.
Intended to put it up in the kitchen but it’s still in the wrapper.
Also had/have some cushions with it on as well.:shrug:

poor King Charles

[Cherie]

https://www.mckeeversports.ie/cdn/shop/files/PLAITS-red-white-chest.jpg?v=1685440153

thats the one, suprised the moths haven't had it away :laugh:

[Gusto Brunt]

Derek Drummond should have got 20 years. Him and anyone else who assault the police and frighten the public, smash and burn property.