Riots / Protests [Merged threads]

[Maru]

Don't expect much rationality from rioters. You may as well ask how does destroying a high street help to stop the police from killing criminals.

Oh, I wouldn't expect it.

[MTVN]

A bit ironic that this is about migrants flooding into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources, etc... only for the "protesters" to flood into towns, ruining them, using up all the resources (emergency services particularly), etc.

But more on topic, I feel like rioter/looter mentality needs to be studied like we study any other criminal/culty behavior. It would be real interesting to know what kind of people these actually are. How these things are arranged. In the "normal" world, I'd like to know if I'm having a potential conversation with anyone regarding anything political, who or what element I'm actually dealing with. I can tell when someone is into "cult think", but harder to tell the kind of non-serious person who burns down buildings. And are these even people we run into on a regular basis whether it is offline and online? I'd like to know for myself, if who I am talking to, is this kind of special.

I don't think of TiBB as an oddball place (that kind, anyway). It's part of the "normal" world, just containing the more eccentric bits of active society. But I would like to know if any of you are knife-wielding axe murders in your spare time. /humor

The majority of them already had criminal records so you probably wouldn't spend much time with them unless you regularly fraternised with violent people and criminals (not that we should always ostracise people with records)

[arista]

Today a 19year old
was Jailed for 2 Years
He Chucked Metal Beer Kegs
at the Police car in Bristol


A 62-year-old was chucking bricks/wood at the police
at the Hotel with migrants.
Jailed for 2 years , as well.




More than 180 have been arrested


Ref: BBC1HD 6PM News.

[Parmy]

Grandfather jailed for shouting....

Whilst labour councillor still walks free for urging people to slice other peoples throats....


This is what the grandfather did..joey Steele and sherriff would have em all locked up and the key thrown away if they had their way.

https://youtu.be/-SeucMuZd4U?si=u793yWC5JfhHZTc4

[joeysteele]

Today a 19year old
was Jailed for 2 Years
He Chucked Metal Beer Kegs
at the Police car in Bristol


A 62-year-old was chucking bricks/wood at the police
at the Hotel with migrants.
Jailed for 2 years , as well.




More than 180 have been arrested


Ref: BBC1HD 6PM News.

Music to my ears.

ANYONE joining in those riots are guilty and warrant criminal records and the vast majority or even ALL in fact, custodial sentences.
They joined the rioters, they stayed while some carried out destructive actions and while some assaulted the police.
Not lifting a finger to stop that happening.

They aided and supported it.
Again I've absolutely no sympathy for them OR for any of the armchair individuals who try to make any excusing of any of them.

Mob rule of racism and prejudice must NEVER ever be allowed to succeed in this Country.
NEVER.

[bots]

the good news is that these yobs are either in jail or will think twice before doing the same again. That to me is exactly what the government intended and what the public expects

Tough on crime means exactly that

[joeysteele]

the good news is that these yobs are either in jail or will think twice before doing the same again. That to me is exactly what the government intended and what the public expects

Tough on crime means exactly that

Absolutely right
I agree.

[arista]

A 11-year-old
has been arrested.

For disorder in Middlesborough


Was just on SkyNewsHD

[Parmy]

A 11-year-old
has been arrested.

For disorder in Middlesborough


Was just on SkyNewsHD

A ringleader in starmers courts.

[Parmy]

61 assaults on emergency workers, mother stabbed in front of her kid all at notting hill carnival..

2tierkier says absolutely sod all....obviously the wrong type of people attacking them for starmer to get involved..

Disgusting pig.

[Cherie]

61 assaults on emergency workers, mother stabbed in front of her kid all at notting hill carnival..

2tierkier says absolutely sod all....obviously the wrong type of people attacking them for starmer to get involved..

Disgusting pig.

I heard on the news today she is still in a critical condition and might have to have her leg amputated, she got caught between two gangs, its incredible that nothing has been said about it by Khan either

[Vanessa]

I heard on the news today she is still in a critical condition and might have to have her leg amputated, she got caught between two gangs, its incredible that nothing has been said about it by Khan either

The Carnival isn't safe anymore. I told this to my friend as well. She wanted to go.

[arista]

The Criminal 12-year-old boy
was in court with his uncle.

But the Judge wants his Mother there?

The Mother is on holiday in Ibiza

So the Judge Adjourned the case
until Wednesday next week.

She will instruct the Mother to be there..................................

All media

[user104658]

The Criminal 12-year-old boy
was in court with his uncle.

But the Judge wants his Mother there?

The Mother is on holiday in Ibiza

So the Judge Adjourned the case
until Wednesday next week.

She will instruct the Mother to be there..................................

All media

12 year old in court, not a parent in sight, one on their jollies in Ibiza.

Stick them in jail not the kid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Criminal 12-year-old boy
was in court with his uncle.

But the Judge wants his Mother there?

The Mother is on holiday in Ibiza




https://static.standard.co.uk/2024/08/30/13/02/Angela-Rayner.jpg?width=700&auto=webp&quality=75

[Parmy]

I think that's the embarrassing Aunt, CD.

[Livia]

Labour politician Ed Milliband threatened with death by a white man - man jailed for 3 years.

Reform candidate Simon Danczuk threatened with death by Muslim man - no action taken.

Two tier Keir.

[arista]

Labour politician Ed Milliband threatened with death by a white man - man jailed for 3 years.

Reform candidate Simon Danczuk threatened with death by Muslim man - no action taken.

Two tier Keir.


Yes not looking
good

[Kate!]

Labour politician Ed Milliband threatened with death by a white man - man jailed for 3 years.

Reform candidate Simon Danczuk threatened with death by Muslim man - no action taken.

Two tier Keir.

Sadly this does not surprise me. 😕

[Parmy]

Loads of these "rioters" need released immediately. Rhe ridiculousness of at all is absurd

You have kids throwing stones at police with their massive riot shields. Many caught up in the spur of the moment, enraged by the events that caused all of it to transpire. Its ridiculous when you have as many officers being attacked at notting hill, by people with no grudges, people at a carnival, full of enjoyment. Attacking police, stabbing fellow carnival goers, sexually assaulting women all snuck under the carpet by Kahn and the labour government, quietly hoping it all just becomes a forgotten memory until next year.

Poor old isa, the bin pusher of leeds, sat remorseful wearing her porridge, as her time passes by slowly towards the next carnival she has to be humiliated by. Sitting crying in her cell, sent there by a government hellbent on coming down hard on anything more right than themselves, just to prove a point that behaviour like that wont be tolerated. Or at least not from enraged white people.

We wont see anymore riots, what we will see next year is more stabbings at notting hill, more sexuall assaults, and more attacks on the police that dont have riot shields.

[arista]

The Conservative Councillor's
wife has pleaded guilty
for her post online
saying burn the hotels down.............

[arista]

[Poor old isa, the bin pusher of leeds, sat remorseful]

Yes the Evidence was recorded forever
on TV news


She must do her time in Jail.

[GoldHeart]

Labour politician Ed Milliband threatened with death by a white man - man jailed for 3 years.

Reform candidate Simon Danczuk threatened with death by Muslim man - no action taken.

Two tier Keir.

And people wonder why there's a double standards:bored: , I don't care people's politics beliefs or background...but if both send death threats then surely both should face the same punishment/ consequences... like why is that so hard for this tone deaf government to comprehend .

[arista]

The Criminal 12-year-old boy
was in court with his uncle.

But the Judge wants his Mother there?

The Mother is on holiday in Ibiza

So the Judge Adjourned the case
until Wednesday next week.

She will instruct the Mother to be there..................................

All media


Many are asking why not ask for his Dad
to be there


To attend next Wednesday
she will have to Fly back to the UK
reports are saying

[Livia]

And people wonder why there's a double standards:bored: , I don't care people's politics beliefs or background...but if both send death threats then surely both should face the same punishment/ consequences... like why is that so hard for this tone deaf government to comprehend .

Exactly. The least we should be able to expect is even handedness.

[Parmy]

Ooo dont push me.....

Former soldier Peter Beard, 43, was sentenced to two-and-a-half years after pushing aggressively at police as they tried to protect a hotel housing asylum seekers. The judge called his case "astonishing"

[arista]

The Thug who pushed the
Fire in the bin at the Hotel.

Jailed for
9 years

Thomas Birly his name


SkyNewsHD Live

[joeysteele]

The Thug who pushed the
Fire in the bin at the Hotel.

Jailed for
9 years

Thomas Burly his name


SkyNewsHD Live

Excellent to see.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ex-Labour councillor Ricky Jones pleads not guilty over 'cut their throats'
speech during riots

https://static.standard.co.uk/2024/08/08/13/58/RICKY-JONES-website-scaled-e1685007366233-600x600-c-default.jpg?trim=60,0,165,0&quality=75&auto=webp&width=1000

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty-cut-throats-riots-fascists-disorder-b1180481.html

[Parmy]

The Thug who pushed the
Fire in the bin at the Hotel.

Jailed for
9 years

Thomas Burly his name


SkyNewsHD Live



Yes, these are the ones that need jailed..

[Parmy]

Ex-Labour councillor Ricky Jones pleads not guilty over 'cut their throats'
speech during riots

https://static.standard.co.uk/2024/08/08/13/58/RICKY-JONES-website-scaled-e1685007366233-600x600-c-default.jpg?trim=60,0,165,0&quality=75&auto=webp&width=1000




https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty-cut-throats-riots-fascists-disorder-b1180481.html



Lies lies lies(typical labour)..we all saw and heard you...lock him up.

[arista]

Ex-Labour councillor Ricky Jones pleads not guilty over 'cut their throats'
speech during riots

https://static.standard.co.uk/2024/08/08/13/58/RICKY-JONES-website-scaled-e1685007366233-600x600-c-default.jpg?trim=60,0,165,0&quality=75&auto=webp&width=1000

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/labour-councillor-ricky-jones-not-guilty-cut-throats-riots-fascists-disorder-b1180481.html


No
he is Guilty he said LIVE on TV news

[bots]

pleading not guilty when there is hard evidence to the contrary only increases the punishment they receive when found guilty

[Crimson Dynamo]

pleading not guilty when there is hard evidence to the contrary only increases the punishment they receive when found guilty

I presume his consul will lead with " it was a metaphor"

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GW7_3mmWgAAanuH?format=jpg&name=small

https://dailysceptic.org/2024/09/07/cost-of-furnishing-asylum-seeker-flats-with-satellite-tv-too-sensitive-to-be-released-says-watchdog/

[Cherie]

The Metropolitan Police “didn’t get everything right” and could have made arrests sooner when policing recent large-sale protests, the force’s assistant commissioner has said.

Matt Twist, who is responsible for protest and public order policing across London, also said the force used an “infinite number of tiers of policing” in response to criticisms of the Met adopting a ‘two-tier’ stance.

In an interview with think tank Policy Exchange in May, Matt Twist said: “When we look back at the policing of protests over the last eight months, we know we didn’t get everything right – particularly in the early stages in October.

“On occasion we did not move quickly to make arrests, for example the man chanting for ‘Jihad’ which was a decision made following fast time advice from lawyers and the CPS.

“We are now much more focused on identifying reasonable grounds for arrest, acting where needed, and then investigating, so in these circumstances its very likely arrests would be made more quickly now.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/met-police-gaza-protests-arrests-london-policing-just-stop-oil-b1180819.html


Nice to see them admitting what we could all see with our own eyes, although this interview was last May and is only surfacing now?

[arista]

The 12-year-old boy's Mother did not return
from Ibiza to yesterday's court hearing.

The Judge should Charge the Lad

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-09-11/mum-of-riot-boy-12-to-appear-in-court-after-missing-sons-hearing-for-ibiza

[Oliver_W]

Matt Twist, who is responsible for protest and public order policing across London, also said the force used an “infinite number of tiers of policing” in response to criticisms of the Met adopting a ‘two-tier’ stance.

So it was true that they didn't have two tiers - but many more!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jonathan Hall is right. A lack of swift clarity on the facts on the ground is a
dereliction of duty

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Author%20photos/Nigel%20Farage%20Aug%202021-xlarge.png?imwidth=100

By MP Nigel Farage

Six weeks on from the Southport attack in which three children were killed and a further eight were injured, along with two adults, sense is beginning to prevail. Jonathan Hall KC, the independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, gave a speech at a conference organised by the Counter Extremism Group think tank. In it, he spoke out against the danger of an “information vacuum” following such an atrocity.

Hall said: “One of the problems and the consequences of the Southport attack was that there was an information gap, a vacuum, which was filled with false speculation”. He added: “I personally think that more information could have been put out safely without comprising potential criminal proceedings”.

In taking this position, he was joined by another eminent lawyer, Lord Carlile of Berriew, who is a former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation. Carlile said “I think we should get out more information if we possibly can. We have learned from these events that when somebody is arrested, and there was a potential issue like this arising, the police probably need to tell the media who has been arrested and what their background is.”

I have no doubt that millions of others in Britain would agree with the common sense approach of Hall and Carlile. I know that I do, which is why I posted a video the day after the attack which was very much aligned with their opinion. It is worth repeating what I said in it, for as a result of it, I have been blamed personally for the riots which followed.

Having expressed my horror at what had happened, I noted that Sir Keir Starmer was heckled when he visited the town. I then said: “It shows you how unhappy the public are with the state of law and order in our country. I have to say there are one or two questions. Was this guy being monitored by the security services? Some reports say he was, others are less sure. The police say it’s a non-terror incident, just as they said the stabbing of an Army Lieutenant Colonel in uniform on the streets of Kent the other day was a non-terror incident.

I just wonder whether the truth is being withheld from us. I don’t know the answer to that, but I think it is a fair and legitimate question.” I also spoke with Valdo Calocane in mind. He killed three people in Nottingham in June 2023. It later came to light that he had a history of mental illness and was known to the authorities. Only last month it emerged that a doctor warned three years before the attacks that Calocane’s illness was so acute he could “end up killing someone.”

As a result of misinformation about the Southport attacker that appeared online – which had nothing to do with me – the riots there spread to other parts of the country.

In no way did I – or do I – condone that mindless thuggery. But children had been massacred. Members of the public were angry and fearful. As Lord Carlile has said, institutions had a responsibility to provide some details about the attacker in order to counter the internet rumours that helped to trigger the violence. This information could have been released in a way that did not compromise any future criminal trial.

Instead, the public was kept in the dark. So was every media outlet. The only facts that anybody officially had to go on came via the bland statement (which has never been updated) put out by Merseyside Police on the evening of the attack, in which the force said a 17-year-old male who was born in Cardiff had been arrested. Three days after the attack, on 1 August, the suspect was named publicly for the first time as Axel Muganwa Rudakubana, after a judge at Liverpool Crown Court lifted reporting restrictions. But doesn’t this lack of swift clarity now look like a major dereliction of duty?

Incredibly, as the riots took hold, many prominent individuals in politics and the media chose to leap on the fact that I had asked those perfectly legitimate questions in my video. In doing so, they set up a ludicrous narrative which blamed me personally for inciting the disorder.

But with two legal experts now implying that the type of information which I asked about should have been forthcoming straight away, I wonder what Tom Tugendhat, James O’Brien, Trevor Phillips and the others who criticised me think now. Or do they disagree with the assessment of Hall and Carlile?

My view is that Sir Keir Starmer – who, as he never tires of telling us, was the tough guy Director of Public Prosecutions for five years - bears a heavy responsibility for not ensuring that some authority was candid with the public at the earliest opportunity. For one thing, the information vacuum that had been created could have been filled by it being made clear that the perpetrator was not a Muslim, as had been rumoured online. Instead, nothing was added to that bland police statement. Starmer did make a speech from Downing Street about what had gone on in Southport, but he merely warned people not to prejudice the forthcoming prosecution.

Does he really think the public didn’t have a right to know more about a crime like this? Is that a healthy state of affairs? Isn’t it the case that the active decision to keep the facts about the Southport killer from the public inflamed tensions?

The boot is on the other foot now. The refusal to brief the media in a sensible way about the Southport attacker was an unforgivable mistake. Even Lord Carlile – a friend of Sir Keir Starmer – thinks so.

For this reason it is absolutely necessary that Starmer is forced to explain why he thought it was a good idea for key information about the Southport attack to be withheld from the public. I, for one, will be doing my best to hold him to account on this.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/09/12/official-silence-southport-attack-public-deserve-truth/

[arista]

The 12-year-old boy's Mother did not return
from Ibiza to yesterday's court hearing.

The Judge should Charge the Lad

https://www.itv.com/news/granada/2024-09-11/mum-of-riot-boy-12-to-appear-in-court-after-missing-sons-hearing-for-ibiza




Update:

[12-year-old boy, who hit the headlines
because his mother chose to fly to Ibiza
for a holiday the day before
he was due in court.

District Judge Joanne Hirst ordered her
to appear at Manchester Magistrates’ Court after
her sunshine break,
where she ordered her to pay £1,200 compensation
and go on a parenting course.]



[The boy was given a 12-month referral
order after admitting two counts of violent disorder,
a measure designed to prevent
him committing further crimes.

“Sometimes the state, I’m afraid, has to intervene,”
Mr Parkinson said.

“And the consequence of an intervention like
the 12-year-old is a referral order,
which would then mean that rehabilitation can
take place and we can divert them from
the path of criminality.
“That’s the objective with youngsters,
not to criminalise them, it’s to put them on the right path.

“We have people who are specially trained around
youth work, because it’s important we do make
the right decisions.”]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

[arista]

The 14-year-old, who was on the Riot
was marched to the police station by his parents,
is sent home to them?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-13879959/Boy-caught-riots-not-prosecuted-stern-telling-parents--DPP.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

60 days now and we have been told zero about motive etc why children were stabbed

5 weeks and the vermin men who attacked policewomen at Manchester airport have not been charged


do you ever wonder why?

[The Slim Reaper]

60 days now and we have been told zero about motive etc why children were stabbed

5 weeks and the vermin men who attacked policewomen at Manchester airport have not been charged


do you ever wonder why?

Is it something to do with brown people getting preferential treatment and honkys being regarded as 55th class citizens?

[The Slim Reaper]

Update:

12-year-old boy, who hit the headlines
because his mother chose to fly to Ibiza
for a holiday the day before
he was due in court.



Was the 12 year old a concerned parent?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is it something to do with brown people getting preferential treatment and honkys being regarded as 55th class citizens?

put the culture war aside son

children died

[The Slim Reaper]

put the culture war aside son

children died

Do you honestly have no concept of the fact you're actually the one doing constant culture war stuff? C'mon; there's no way you can't see it.

[user104658]

put the culture war aside son

children died

:joker: :joker: Using the deaths of children as ammo in a culture war and then accusing other people of not putting a culture war aside to focus on the deaths of the same children. Absolute fking clown, this place really is genuinely unusable these days. Mind-boggling. :skull:.

[Parmy]

:joker: :joker: Using the deaths of children as ammo in a culture war and then accusing other people of not putting a culture war aside to focus on the deaths of the same children. Absolute fking clown, this place really is genuinely unusable these days. Mind-boggling. :skull:.

You are describing what starmer did.

[user104658]

You are describing what starmer did.

Sure. I didn't know Kier Starmer was on TiBB is that a new development?

[Livia]

60 days now and we have been told zero about motive etc why children were stabbed

5 weeks and the vermin men who attacked policewomen at Manchester airport have not been charged


do you ever wonder why?

For the same reason the Rochdale rapists continued for sooooo long.

[arista]

Was the 12 year old a concerned parent?

No his uncle was with him the first time,

His Mother has got a Mega fine


The Kid walks free

[Parmy]

4 leeds rioters sentenced to 30 years between them..MUST SERVE HALF SENTENCE BEFORE LET OUT ON LICENCE. 3 get nine years, 1 gets 3.

https://youtu.be/n-O1m2NiP0c?si=XshKhTzMtytCuSdE

[Oliver_W]

4 leeds rioters sentenced to 30 years between them..MUST SERVE HALF SENTENCE BEFORE LET OUT ON LICENCE. 3 get nine years, 1 gets 3.

https://youtu.be/n-O1m2NiP0c?si=XshKhTzMtytCuSdE

I'm guessing they caused a lot of criminal damage, and/or injured a lot of people?

[The Slim Reaper]

More likely that they were just concerned.

[Parmy]

I'm guessing they caused a lot of criminal damage, and/or injured a lot of people?

Yes..they set a bus on fire, and fuelled the flames with rubbish bins. Nobody was injured though, and the police had already fled the scene.

[user104658]

Yes..they set a bus on fire, and fuelled the flames with rubbish bins. Nobody was injured though, and the police had already fled the scene.

So arson then, for which a quick google says 8 - 12 years is not uncommon. :shrug: sounds like the sentencing was about right.

[Parmy]

So arson then, for which a quick google says 8 - 12 years is not uncommon. :shrug: sounds like the sentencing was about right.



They should have got the full 12 because they didn't really have a reason to riot.

[arista]

In Finland
BBC reporter
confronts Neo-Nazi who gave
UK rioters arson tips

Video on this link
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp8l9gpp8yro


[The BBC has confronted a neo-Nazi in Finland
who shared online instructions on how
to commit arson with UK rioters
during the summer.

The 20-year-old was an administrator
in the Southport Wake Up group on the
Telegram messaging app, where he was known as
“Mr AG”. He posted the arson manual,
which was pinned to the top of the group chat.

In late July and early August, the group was key
in helping to organise and provoke protests
that turned to violence in England and
Northern Ireland.

We tracked Mr AG - whose real name is
Charles-Emmanuel Mikko Rasanen - to an apartment
on the outskirts of the Finnish capital, Helsinki.

It was from here, more than 1,000 miles
away from Southport, that the neo-Nazi
took a prominent online role during the UK riots.]

[Oliver_W]

They should have got the full 12 because they didn't really have a reason to riot.

That shouldn't come into it, because it suggests there are valid "reasons" to riot and set fires.

[Parmy]

That shouldn't come into it, because it suggests there are valid "reasons" to riot and set fires.

Well there is, isnt there?

[Oliver_W]

Well there is, isnt there?

Like?

[user104658]

Well there is, isnt there?

Protest yes, some civil unrest you could argue yes, something as serious as arson... no. If you deliberately set an uncontrolled fire you are recklessly endangering the lives of bystanders and firefighters. You have no control at all over the scale of it. Unlike, let's say, smashing a few car windows... or stealing a few pairs of shoes... or even physical fighting... fire spreads unpredictably and takes on a life of its own. That's why arson is such a serious charge (over other forms of destruction and vandalism).

[Crimson Dynamo]

Did they charge the 2 blokes who set fire to the bus in Leeds?

[Parmy]

Like?

Government corruption...continued terrorism by illegal immigrants. Starvation of the population, government taking from the poor to feed the rich.

[Parmy]

Did they charge the 2 blokes who set fire to the bus in Leeds?

Yes, that's who I'm talking about..4 of them got 30 years between them..

[Parmy]

Protest yes, some civil unrest you could argue yes, something as serious as arson... no. If you deliberately set an uncontrolled fire you are recklessly endangering the lives of bystanders and firefighters. You have no control at all over the scale of it. Unlike, let's say, smashing a few car windows... or stealing a few pairs of shoes... or even physical fighting... fire spreads unpredictably and takes on a life of its own. That's why arson is such a serious charge (over other forms of destruction and vandalism).




I could argue its also an effective way of getting what you want considering the4 children were returned to the parents 3 days later

[user104658]

I could argue its also an effective way of getting what you want considering the4 children were returned to the parents 3 days later

I would counter-argue that this is simply evidence that it was all an over-reaction and a destructive waste of time.

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Daily Express leads with an interview
with a 13-year-old girl who was sentenced for
violent disorder after taking part
in a riot this summer.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e66d5864-4ad3-4d38-b020-b3076e698e53.png

[user104658]

I sort of agree that if it was just destruction of property/vandalism etc then a criminal record at 13 is harsh, kids that age have no real concept of these consequences.

That said - if it's more than that and she physically harmed/assaulted anyone then :shrug: criminal record is warranted.

[Parmy]

Former labour councillor ricky jones..the butcher of walthamstow, who wants to cut throats.

His trial has been fast tracked to January 20th next year..he has been released on bail.

[arista]

Former labour councillor Ricky Jones..the butcher of walthamstow, who wants to cut throats.

His trial has been fast tracked to January 20th next year..he has been released on bail.



That is so wrong

[Parmy]

That is so wrong

Its not, he was released earlier today.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Southport ‘attacker’ charged with having Al-Qaeda material and
making ricin poison

Axel Rudakubana, 18, who is alleged to have carried out a knife attack in July,
has been charged with an offence under the Terrorism Act


:bored:

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/25a681009367ef09711e76a90cd1a901d1bf8579/0_29_1158_695/master/1158.jpg?width=465&dpr=1&s=none&crop=none


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/10/29/southport-murder-accused-charged-terror-offence/

[arista]

Yes Poxy Terrorist/



Charge him again.

[Crimson Dynamo]

08.58 on....


:idc:

the MSM doing the work of the we all know who...

and now we get today's info...


you could not make it up

Thank goodness we have people like Nigel


obbGRBYbBmU

[Cherie]

who could have foreseen that a guy who targetted young children at a dance class was a terrorist

[Oliver_W]

If I were a more cynical person, I might wonder about the timing of these details being released, in relation to the Budget ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looking forward to how the MSM spin this tomorrow

[OnTheRight]

Looking forward to how the MSM spin this tomorrow

"He was a lovely bloke, loved his football" :rolleyes:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nigel Farage says there is so much more we are not being told about Southport.

“All I can say is I know a hell of a lot more than the British public know”

“I’ve been completely silenced”

“We are witnessing one of the biggest coverups we’ve ever seen in our lives”

https://x.com/Xcellent78/status/1858081652498440435


Konstantin Kisin@KonstantinKisin
I really hope that the rumours I am hearing about what happened in Southport
aren't true. Because if they are, this will not end well.
(posted today)...

[Livia]

We're not being told the whole story for the same reason we were not told the whole story about Rotherham and all the police and council cover-ups.

[user104658]

Nigel Farage says there is so much more we are not being told about Southport.

“All I can say is I know a hell of a lot more than the British public know”


"Trust me bro" is not a mature discussion point Nigel. Speak your truth or don't drop meaningless breadcrumbs. It's designed to prompt prejudiced guesswork, as people will of course "assume they know what he isn't saying".

See example:

We're not being told the whole story for the same reason we were not told the whole story about Rotherham and all the police and council cover-ups.

[arista]

We're not being told the whole story for the same reason we were not told the whole story about Rotherham and all the police and council cover-ups.



It would effect the General Election Votes

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its all over social media now..

[Oliver_W]

Its all over social media now..

Any actual details?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Any actual details?

Have a look on X - Southport is trending massively

plenty of very similar posts.......

[Oliver_W]

Have a look on X - Southport is trending massively

plenty of very similar posts.......

Yup, lots of people saying there's been something covered up. No people saying what.

[user104658]

Yup, lots of people saying there's been something covered up. No people saying what.

"Everyone on X" is saying that something happened Oliver - what more proof of nefarious left wing evil cover up do you need?

Let me be clear here.

Its not just one person on X.

Its loads of people. Multiple. :worry:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Politics · Trending
Southport
99.5K posts

[Oliver_W]

Politics · Trending
Southport
99.5K posts


So naturally there's lots of material to choose from, to show what has been covered up.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So naturally there's lots of material to choose from, to show what has been covered up.

Its like the 4th reply to Konstantin Kisin's post today

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GciBbRaXAAA1PTB?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcjADYDWoAAxfB4?format=jpg&name=small

[Livia]

Well, that killed the conversation stone dead, didn't it.

[user104658]

"He was involved in the perpetrator's dad's case in 2003! Treason!!"

Stop it.

[Oliver_W]

That's the thing they were apparently covering up? Really?

[MTVN]

The Keir claim has been community noted

1858128994694045907

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is it taking so long to bring this man to justice?

[user104658]

Why is it taking so long to bring this man to justice?

Do you want the real answer or the Social Outrage Friendly answer?

I can do both I suppose.

Outrage answer: Two tier Kier reee!!! If it was your white nan she'd have been hung three weeks ago for stealing a loaf of bread!

Actual answer: Overstretched system, decade and a half of austerity, plus legal proceedings take time even under ideal circumstances.

The 2nd one is probably too boring for the internets though?

[Parmy]

Peter lynch interview.

https://youtu.be/xX9NsA-wliI?si=BdSbEQudMLuC-9Wk

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do you want the real answer or the Social Outrage Friendly answer?

I can do both I suppose.

Outrage answer: Two tier Kier reee!!! If it was your white nan she'd have been hung three weeks ago for stealing a loaf of bread!

Actual answer: Overstretched system, decade and a half of austerity, plus legal proceedings take time even under ideal circumstances.

The 2nd one is probably too boring for the internets though?

Your 2nd answer is pure MSM Kool aid

but thanks for playing

[user104658]

Your 2nd answer is pure MSM Kool aid

but thanks for playing

I'll take it over braindead 12 year old rage bait :joker:

pure MSM Kool aid

Out of interest, how do you actually post phrases like this with a straight face? Or maybe it's with an angry wee face :mad:

[arista]

Evil Rioter Jailed for 9 years

[A man who tried to set fire to a
hotel housing asylum seekers has
been jailed for nine years,
the joint-longest prison sentence
in connection with the UK's summer of riots.

Levi Fishlock smashed windows and stoked
a flaming bin at the Holiday Inn Express
in Manvers, Rotherham, during a spate
of disorder on 4 August.



Fishlock, 31, of Sheffield Road, Barnsley,
initially denied violent disorder and arson
with intent to endanger life but later pleaded
guilty to the charges.

Jailing him, the Recorder of Sheffield,
Judge Jeremy Richardson KC, said: "This is one
of the worst cases of its kind stemming from
the Rotherham disorder."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c878p3l93rqo

[The Slim Reaper]

Evil Rioter Jailed for 9 years

[A man who tried to set fire to a
hotel housing asylum seekers has
been jailed for nine years,
the joint-longest prison sentence
in connection with the UK's summer of riots.

Levi Fishlock smashed windows and stoked
a flaming bin at the Holiday Inn Express
in Manvers, Rotherham, during a spate
of disorder on 4 August.



Fishlock, 31, of Sheffield Road, Barnsley,
initially denied violent disorder and arson
with intent to endanger life but later pleaded
guilty to the charges.

Jailing him, the Recorder of Sheffield,
Judge Jeremy Richardson KC, said: "This is one
of the worst cases of its kind stemming from
the Rotherham disorder."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c878p3l93rqo

He's not evil, he's just really, really, concerned.

[arista]

He's not evil, he's just really, really, concerned.


He attacked the Police
he was filmed


9years in jail


Outright Thug

[The Slim Reaper]

He attacked the Police
he was filmed


9years in jail


Outright Thug

Like I said, he was really, really, really, concerned.

[Parmy]

Evil Rioter Jailed for 9 years

[A man who tried to set fire to a
hotel housing asylum seekers has
been jailed for nine years,
the joint-longest prison sentence
in connection with the UK's summer of riots.

Levi Fishlock smashed windows and stoked
a flaming bin at the Holiday Inn Express
in Manvers, Rotherham, during a spate
of disorder on 4 August.



Fishlock, 31, of Sheffield Road, Barnsley,
initially denied violent disorder and arson
with intent to endanger life but later pleaded
guilty to the charges.

Jailing him, the Recorder of Sheffield,
Judge Jeremy Richardson KC, said: "This is one
of the worst cases of its kind stemming from
the Rotherham disorder."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c878p3l93rqo



Justified.

Unlike most of the others.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The court finally gets underway as Axel Muganwa Rudakubana makes an appearance,
again hiding his face.

The charges are read out and he refuses to enter pleas.

The judge enters not guilty pleas on his behalf.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfFpNUGXoAA3bSJ?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

If they have these ‘people’ doing disgraceful things on clear video footage I wouldn’t even bother with a trial as they are so obviously guilty .


Let a judge and a few advisors sentence them

Save a fortune

[Cherie]

Justified.

Unlike most of the others.

absolutely, no concern here at all

[Cherie]

The court finally gets underway as Axel Muganwa Rudakubana makes an appearance,
again hiding his face.

The charges are read out and he refuses to enter pleas.

The judge enters not guilty pleas on his behalf.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfFpNUGXoAA3bSJ?format=jpg&name=small

Those families, the shock will have worn off now and reality is kicking in, and that bastard is hiding behind mental health

[Oliver_W]

The court finally gets underway as Axel Muganwa Rudakubana makes an appearance,
again hiding his face.

The charges are read out and he refuses to enter pleas.

The judge enters not guilty pleas on his behalf.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GfFpNUGXoAA3bSJ?format=jpg&name=small

If he didn't speak, why not take that as a non-denial, plea of Guilty? Why waste time and money on a trial in cases like this?

[Cherie]

If he didn't speak, why not take that as a non-denial, plea of Guilty? Why waste time and money on a trial in cases like this?

why has he not got anyone representing him

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hopefully he will not survive very long in prison

[user104658]

If they have these ‘people’ doing disgraceful things on clear video footage I wouldn’t even bother with a trial as they are so obviously guilty .


Let a judge and a few advisors sentence them

Save a fortune

Thankfully due legal process is followed regardless as this isn't the Wild Wild West.

If he didn't speak, why not take that as a non-denial, plea of Guilty? Why waste time and money on a trial in cases like this?

I'm sure you'll actually understand why silence can't be taken as an admission of guilt, and shouldn't be legally considered one. That said, I thought "no plea entered" was possible in the UK so I don't know why it was taken as a not guilty plea, either, unless that's from a previous statement or something.

Note that in both of the above I'm not being "on his side", he obviously deserves to be locked away forever. Nor am I actually a huge fan of our legal system. But, let's not just throw out the established rules in a fit of rage without pausing to think.

[Zizu]

https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1933227784941236615?s=46


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[Parmy]

Only decent documentary channel 4 have done for a while.


Covers the beginning of the thread well.

https://youtu.be/aENoODzRhZ0?si=OLhX8O2glcunjzae

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets see how many white middle-aged libtard women apply

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G7JtRJ1WYAA9GmJ?format=jpg&name=small

[Livia]

How about a campaign to offer a room to a homeless person? There are probably plenty in York.

[arista]

Lets see how many white middle-aged libtard women apply

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G7JtRJ1WYAA9GmJ?format=jpg&name=small


They would want to know
how much Cash they would be paid,
by the Labour Party Government
for helping them...........

[Parmy]

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1BEq2YjgeS/