[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Neither is defensible, neither was self-defense. Self defense is action you have to take to stop an immediate and active attack. Going in swinging on someone who has backed down is retaliation. If someone is hitting you and you hit back to make them stop then you're defending yourself. If someone punches you in the face and then a few minutes later you walk over and punch them in the face, you're both guilty of assault.

‘Other passengers stand between the arguing parties and try to defuse the situation, while encouraging the two black commuters to leave the bus.

They do, but more angry words are exchanged before the pensioner jumps to his feet and appears to swing at the black passengers.

He is then punched several times, leaving him with a black eye and a bump on his head.‘

They were leaving, he got up to them and swung at them, they didn’t ‘go back’ to him.