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Originally Posted by joeysteele
They are not more valid, where do I say that?
That is exactly what I was saying.
However in the post I responded to that post that does not say anywhere in there any acknowledgement of an opposing view.
Where on earth though did I say my findings were any more valid than Kirk's, it was merely another take on actual leave voters and voting.
What is sure however,in my view,is that neither him, you or I can be sure that 'everyone' who voted leave, voted for 'all' the same reasons or even just one reason.
They voted to leave yes, the make up of leaving is an entirely different thing.
By the way, there's been plenty of abuse thrown at remain voters on here too, very unpleasantly too at times.
Very much directly against myself personally as well.
Leave actually does not have a monopoly on that happening either.
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It seems we agree that many leave voters made an informed and researched decision just as many didn't.
You began your post with -
"I actually totally have to disagree that informed decisions were made in voting, on both sides too, although those voting remain knew things would probably go on as before."
And then continued with examples of people you know who voted leave without any or many actual reasons.
Maybe if you'd said 'I actually totally have to disagree that informed decisions were made in voting FROM SOME leave voters' then I wouldn't have misunderstood your meaning.
Kirks post didn't have any acknowledgement of an opposing view because he was giving a rebuttal with examples of leavers who he knows to a post which was covertly implying 'Joe public'(people who voted leave) were uninformed idiots who were about to get some big shock or 'kick in the nads'.
The rest of your post I agree with.Although i haven't seen you abused Personally it may have happened.