[Crimson Dynamo]

So if I am correct the boys stole Kerry's mattress (or pretended to) and she said that this act was gay

Or indeed they were both gay for stealing a mattress?

Is stealing a mattress some sort of euphemism,?

I'm confused

[Abra]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

So if I am correct the boys stole Kerry's mattress (or pretended to) and she said that this act was gay

Or indeed they were both gay for stealing a mattress?

Is stealing a mattress some sort of euphemism,?

I'm confused

She wasn't saying they are literally gay, she was using "gay" in the place of saying "that's bad" or "I don't like that", it's a phrase that was commonly used by teenagers in the 2000's and became a sort of accepted and normalised homophobic remark under the guise of it being "harmless".

[Beso]

You gays should use the proper words for being gay to stop the confusion.

[thesheriff443]

This was only a problem because it was aired on tv And not covered by bird song
Bb then had to take action by calling Kerry to the diary room and warning her it was inappropriate and against the rules
She then apologised and it’s over and done with

[GoldHeart]

It's funny how BB left in her trying to get sympathy with " oh pick on the disabled woman" , why not show the full conversation.

[Alf]

So the LGBTQXYZ Nazi Police are coming after people's basic freedoms yet again.

The LGBTQ movement is such an authoritarian movement. That's undeniable, it's plain to see right here if this is true. No wonder the older homosexuals don't want anything to do with it.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Alf

So the LGBTQXYZ Nazi Police are coming after people's basic freedoms yet again.

The LGBTQ movement is such an authoritarian movement. That's undeniable, it's plain to see right here if this is true. No wonder the older homosexuals don't want anything to do with it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Abra

And they're ageist.

[Abra]

Originally Posted by Alf

And they're ageist.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Abra

At least he knows its a cloud, the gen z's would not have a scooby doo as they never look up from their iphone 13's

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Alf

So the LGBTQXYZ Nazi Police are coming after people's basic freedoms yet again.

The LGBTQ movement is such an authoritarian movement. That's undeniable, it's plain to see right here if this is true. No wonder the older homosexuals don't want anything to do with it.

I don’t think this is about LGBTQ+ as such, but about using language appropriate to the 2020s.

As such, the same sort of arguments would exist, no matter what minority or suppressed group was being insulted.

That’s why there were debates about whether Zak comments were sexist, and why the racist use of the ‘n*****’ word or ‘P***’ word would be offensive today, even though they were freely used on TV in the 1970s.

The reality of the times is that the use of the word ‘gay’ as a way of insulting people is publicly acknowledged as homophobic language, even if the person using it doesn’t recognise or mean it as such, and even if some people watching don’t take offence to it. The fact is, if the word wasn’t perceived as homophobic, BB wouldn’t have felt the need to reprimand Kerry and demand that she issue an apology.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don’t think this is about LGBTQ+ as such, but about using language appropriate to the 2020s.

As such, the same sort of arguments would exist, no matter what minority or suppressed group was being insulted.

That’s why there were debates about whether Zak comments were sexist, and why the racist use of the ‘n*****’ word or ‘P***’ word would be offensive today, even though they were freely used on TV in the 1970s.

The reality of the times is that the use of the word ‘gay’ as a way of insulting people is publicly acknowledged as homophobic language, even if the person using it doesn’t recognise or mean it as such, and even if some people watching don’t take offence to it. The fact is, if the word wasn’t perceived as transphobic, BB wouldn’t have felt the need to reprimand Kerry and demand that she issue an apology.

tbf though I do think there's a difference here, it wasn't the words Zak was using that was sexist, it was the ideas he was expressing (in jest or not) that women are second class citizens to men (ie. people don't listen to you because you're a woman, come over here and do what you're told like a good girl etc) Was he joking or does he really think that, I don't know but I can guarantee if you "joked" that white people are more important than black people nobody would be saying "ah but it's just a joke"

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

...I can guarantee if you "joked" that white people are more important than black people nobody would be saying "ah but it's just a joke"

I would if it was clearly just a joke.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I would if it was clearly just a joke.

Most people then..

[Northern Monkey]

I do agree about the edit though, deffo not something that should be hidden. Definite bias, and Kerry is doing my tits in now ,so if she did get kicked

[Jordan.]

She shouldn't be kicked out the back door. She deserves to know she is disliked and evicted by the public.

[Beso]

I'm loving kelly and hallies dynamics together to be honest.

[Glenn.]

She’s just a very stupid unintelligent woman and if you don’t agree that what she’s said is problematic then you’re just as unintelligent as she is imo

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

She’s just a very stupid unintelligent woman and if you don’t agree that what she’s said is problematic then you’re just as unintelligent as she is imo

I'm not gonna get into personal attacks over a TV show.

[Glenn.]

I wasn’t being personal with anyone on here.

[Beso]

And dont presume I'm straight either abra you've been here 5 minutes and know nothing about me.

[Babayaro.]

It’s a strange one. Would I say Kerry is a homophobe after saying that? No, probably not. Is she incredibly ignorant? Yes. She should know better than to so casually blurt out something like that.