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Why would this guy be paroled if they are sure he did it.
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Hmm it would be surprising if he's granted parole I think given he's a repeat offender who has breached his parole conditions in the past
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These stories seem to pop up every so often don't they, I wonder about it hhhmm
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These stories seem to pop up every so often don't they, I wonder about it hhhmm
Im not sure about this one either
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So it's not illegal to leave a child alone but it is an offence if they are at risk, the very bottom part of the screenshot clearly states what most people know anyway. Not sure how anyone can try to justify that as being a normal or common thing for parents to do

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The McCann's could have accidentally killed Madeleine. Watch the Netflix documentary, Kate refused to answer 70+ questions at the immediate stages of the investigation, a sniffer dog smelt blood in their room and in their hire car, and the most weird thing of all is the fact that whilst still on Portugal, they washed Madeleine's teddy! So many weird things that don't add up, they could have accidently drugged her on some sleeping tablets and gave her too much, they are doctors after all but she's a child, makes sense since she was crying the night before as she couldn't find them!
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The McCann's could have accidentally killed Madeleine. Watch the Netflix documentary, Kate refused to answer 70+ questions at the immediate stages of the investigation, a sniffer dog smelt blood in their room and in their hire car, and the most weird thing of all is the fact that whilst still on Portugal, they washed Madeleine's teddy! So many weird things that don't add up, they could have accidently drugged her on some sleeping tablets and gave her too much, they are doctors after all but she's a child, makes sense since she was crying the night before as she couldn't find them!
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but what about Madeleine's body then? since they never found anything
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The McCann's could have accidentally killed Madeleine. Watch the Netflix documentary, Kate refused to answer 70+ questions at the immediate stages of the investigation, a sniffer dog smelt blood in their room and in their hire car, and the most weird thing of all is the fact that whilst still on Portugal, they washed Madeleine's teddy! So many weird things that don't add up, they could have accidently drugged her on some sleeping tablets and gave her too much, they are doctors after all but she's a child, makes sense since she was crying the night before as she couldn't find them!

They didn’t do it....their only crime was to leave their 3 children alone in an unlocked apartment. A decision they must regret every day of their lives. They had the option of childcare...all their friends were equally guilty.
She was abducted.
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They didn’t do it....their only crime was to leave their 3 children alone in an unlocked apartment. A decision they must regret every day of their lives. They had the option of childcare...all their friends were equally guilty.

She was abducted.
With all due respect you dont know whether they did it or not. There was zero evidence that she was abducted where as there was some evidence to say she died in the apartment as indicated by the blood and cadaver dogs
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With all due respect you dont know whether they did it or not. There was zero evidence that she was abducted where as there was some evidence to say she died in the apartment as indicated by the blood and cadaver dogs

I remember thinking that they may have been guilty. Knowing how she had cried the night before when she woke and couldn’t find them...my first thoughts were that they may have given her something to make her sleep and maybe overdosed. However being doctors I’m sure they wouldn’t have done that. The blood they found wasn’t conclusive.
I know I don’t know...it’s simply my opinion. I know there was a window open causing a breeze. Either she’s wandered off and been abducted or someone got in. This other little girl in Germany wandered off and disappeared too...
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This story is still so crazy to me, in that I genuinely don't know what to think/believe actually happened that night. There is SO much that still doesn't add up but it's also possible that a lot of their timings/memory of specific details is off just because the whole thing is a blur. Like sure they shouldn't have left the kids there alone but they did and blaming the parents for that just doesn't really help the whole thing tbh.

I really just don't think somebody got in through the window and took her though. I can't help but feel like Gerry (idk about Kate tbh) had something to do with it But then so awful to think that if they genuinely didn't so I wouldn't want to make assumptions about it either.
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This story is still so crazy to me, in that I genuinely don't know what to think/believe actually happened that night. There is SO much that still doesn't add up but it's also possible that a lot of their timings/memory of specific details is off just because the whole thing is a blur. Like sure they shouldn't have left the kids there alone but they did and blaming the parents for that just doesn't really help the whole thing tbh.

I really just don't think somebody got in through the window and took her though. I can't help but feel like Gerry (idk about Kate tbh) had something to do with it But then so awful to think that if they genuinely didn't so I wouldn't want to make assumptions about it either.


Loads of thieves get in through windows .. it’s the main point of access isn’t it ?
Everyone locks doors but leave windows open... especially in hot climates .

The suspect has a history of house breaking as well as the other offences

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The suspect has a history of house breaking as well as the other offences

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I remember something about the window on the Crimewatch special they did. The last time they checked on the kids BEFORE she disappeared all the windows and shutters were all closed. Then Kate's version of events when she discovered Maddie gone was that the window was open with the "curtains fluttering in the breeze" or something to that effect, but the shutter on the window was inspected and would not remain up and in the open position without being held, and every time they lifted it, it would only fall back down.

It's been a few years since I watched it but there were definite inconsistencies to the window.

Edited to add: Or something about the shutter could only be lifted from the inside of the apartment.

They admitted the patio doors were left unlocked too, which baffled me.

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I remember something about the window on the Crimewatch special they did. The last time they checked on the kids BEFORE she disappeared all the windows and shutters were all closed. Then Kate's version of events when she discovered Maddie gone was that the window was open with the "curtains fluttering in the breeze" or something to that effect, but the shutter on the window was inspected and would not remain up and in the open position without being held, and every time they lifted it, it would only fall back down.

It's been a few years since I watched it but there were definite inconsistencies to the window.

Edited to add: Or something about the shutter could only be lifted from the inside of the apartment.

They admitted the patio doors were left unlocked too, which baffled me.


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I remember something about the window on the Crimewatch special they did. The last time they checked on the kids BEFORE she disappeared all the windows and shutters were all closed. Then Kate's version of events when she discovered Maddie gone was that the window was open with the "curtains fluttering in the breeze" or something to that effect, but the shutter on the window was inspected and would not remain up and in the open position without being held, and every time they lifted it, it would only fall back down.

It's been a few years since I watched it but there were definite inconsistencies to the window.

Edited to add: Or something about the shutter could only be lifted from the inside of the apartment.

They admitted the patio doors were left unlocked too, which baffled me.
Again only from memory I think kate said they broke in through the shutters on a phonecall home but then it was shown that the shutter were down, locked and undisturbed, locked.from the inside.
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Again only from memory I think kate said they broke in through the shutters on a phonecall home but then it was shown that the shutter were down, locked and undisturbed, locked.from the inside.


It seems extremely unlikely that IF they were gonna lie / cover up that they would say something that could easily be disproven - they are both intelligent people after all .


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I remember something about the window on the Crimewatch special they did. The last time they checked on the kids BEFORE she disappeared all the windows and shutters were all closed. Then Kate's version of events when she discovered Maddie gone was that the window was open with the "curtains fluttering in the breeze" or something to that effect, but the shutter on the window was inspected and would not remain up and in the open position without being held, and every time they lifted it, it would only fall back down.

It's been a few years since I watched it but there were definite inconsistencies to the window.

Edited to add: Or something about the shutter could only be lifted from the inside of the apartment.

They admitted the patio doors were left unlocked too, which baffled me.

The window at the front was open and I believe Madeleines bed was next to it. This was at the front of the apartment but there was a drop from the window to the ground. It’s been reported this guy is tall...but maybe he had an accomplice?
But yes the patio doors were left unlocked..
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The window at the front was open and I believe Madeleines bed was next to it. This was at the front of the apartment but there was a drop from the window to the ground. It’s been reported this guy is tall...but maybe he had an accomplice?
But yes the patio doors were left unlocked..
Yes, but I was talking about the comment Kate made about the curtains blowing in the breeze, which they can't have been with the shutters down, closed and locked.
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Oddly enough ...


There was a Portuguese lawyer on BBC yesterday who said that around the time in question -some bloke broke into an apartment in the middle of the night in the area but was noticed by the eldest girl ... he talked to the two sisters and left them alone !!
They told police that he had an accent like Dutch or German ..


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Yeah I don't remember all the details now either but I do remember thinking that it just didn't all add up

But still definitely possible that somebody did take her & maybe just their recollection of it isn't 100% which is also understandable.
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Interesting, so not brand new breaking news after all, there's a shock

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She probably was snatched, and Kate and Gerry have muddied the initial crime scene in their desperate panic at trying to make it seem like she wasn't neglected with the incorrect description of the crime scene, the lies about how often the kids were checked on.
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