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Old 20-06-2018, 01:56 PM #1
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but why is it a racist joke?
he could have said that about any team from a country known for enterprising migrants
why not Polish team full of plumbers and builders? Idgi
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but why is it a racist joke?
Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.
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Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.
it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis
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it's about them doing two jobs, selling sunglasses in Spain and playing football for Senegal
enterprising migrants comes to mind, not skin colour
no, I don't get it, sorry sis
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You don't see where race comes into it?

So, he'd have used this joke alongside an image of ANY football team then, right?
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You don't see where race comes into it?

So, he'd have used this joke alongside an image of ANY football team then, right?
idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it
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idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it
As long as you don't think that because you don't see the issue that there isn't an issue.

But you don't seem to be be so that's fair enough.
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idk, if any nationalities sell wares in Marbella then yes
he could have cracked a joke about Polish players doing his bathroom too
I get there's an issue otherwise they'd be no backlash, but I just don't see it, can't help it
He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'
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He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'
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He didn't say it because beach sellers are always from Senegal though, he said it because beach sellers are pretty much always black. He probably would have said it about any African team

It's clearly disrespectful to take a pic of a team of professional footballers representing their country at the World Cup and basically say 'lol black guys, look like they should be selling sunglasses'
Is it not they wear colourful clothes and or footy tops?

And are always black?
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Because the punchline is based on being derogatory about Africans... based on them being African.
So what do you think should happen now?

Should the Police get involved?
Should the BBC fire him?
Should he be branded a racist for the rest of his days?
Should he give money to a charity?
Or now that he's apologised, shall we just move on?
Or something else?
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So what do you think should happen now?

Should the Police get involved?
Should the BBC fire him?
Should he be branded a racist for the rest of his days?
Should he give money to a charity?
Or now that he's apologised, shall we just move on?
Or something else?
I don't know nor do I care. Like I said, I don't think any offence was intended by him and like him.

I was responding to you claiming it's not a racist joke, when it is.

But you continue deflecting and moving the goalposts of the discussion. Carry on.

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I don't know nor do I care. Like I said, I don't think any offence was intended by him and like him.

I was responding to you claiming it's not a racist joke, when it is.

But you continue deflecting and moving the goalposts of the discussion. Carry on.
Did I claim it wasn't a racist joke? I thought I just said that we can't keep shouting racist every time a non White is the punchline.
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his twitter is such a mess

selling a box of pick and mix! only £15

and now this
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his twitter is such a mess

selling a box of pick and mix! only £15

and now this
I think those sweets are the business of the lady that won the apprentice.

15 notes for a few little sweets is highway robbery. You'd have to be made of money to purchase them.
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Did I claim it wasn't a racist joke? I thought I just said that we can't keep shouting racist every time a non White is the punchline.
Implying the joke doesn't deserve the racist tag?

If you thought it was racist you wouldn't have a problem with it being called such.
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