[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Sorry I forgot - you’re the only one here with any understanding of such issues, despite not even being a parent. If it’s better for the children to be with their parents then fine but maybe an adult environment with many unknown adults, some or many of whom may be less than caring paternal types, was considered an even less suitable environment for them - I dont’t know as I am not privy to that information - but then again neither are you.

You seem to be assuming quite a lot based on your obvious hatred of Trump. I have no strong opinion on him one way or the other so don’t just assume things.

Who is being ejected from their country - if illegal it is not their country. If you mean the country they are choosing to leave who is ejecting them?

I am not dehumatising anyone because you say so (emotive language again) but I also care about the rights of the legal citizens of America who have a right to be concerned about open borders and undocumented people entering their country and the safety issues they could pose to others. If you don’t think dubious characters can’t or don’t pose as caring families you are very naive. America has many South American criminal gangs and drug lords in its midst - do you think they are all legal citizens and pose no threat to everyone else. Why would they want more of the same. People have to be assessed and processed for the safety of all.

You don't need to be a parent to have common sense, or empathy.

YouRe essentially making up justifications for this brand of cruelty by saying that children were at risk with their parents and the tried and true previous method of handling immigrant families. You are not protecting children by ripping them from their parents' arms and forcing them into an unknown situation without a support network of any kind.

I'm privvy to the reports that come up, to the audio evidence that you are ignoring that proves the abuse that goes on in these places.

Of course you have a strong view on Trump, he is right wing and you've shown in the past that you struggle to differentiate between different kinds of right wing because you think it's all the same when it's not. It's why you basically try to turn every thread about the right wing (or even unrelated threads) into a Left vs Right situation. There are different right leaning factions with different beliefs. Trump represents an extreme that a lot of other right wing people disagree with. You don't have to go into every thread and screech about the left in order to defend the right.

As for the whole ejection thing, you tell me. I was commenting on a weird line from your own post that you still haven't cleared up.

You're not dehumanising people just because I say so, it's apparent in your words and attitude. You can keep banging on about emotive language but you aren't going to paint over what's happening no matter how hard you try. It is child abuse and you think it's acceptable to put families through that in order to stop....Drug lords? Good ****ing god.

2,000 children in a matter of months, are you saying that is acceptable in order to combat an unrealistic threat? As TS said, the example of gang members is just a way to paint in broad strokes and criminalise an entire race, thus dehumanising them.