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Old 06-03-2019, 10:53 AM #11
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Honestly I'm not desperate for people to believe it, though I personally do believe it. I'm just keen for people to look at the whole picture objectively and not with blinkers on, and not to automatically assume it must not have happened because he was never convicted. Several boys / men have now said it happened (read my above post) - more have said it happened than have defended him - and the FBI and police did find evidence - pictures for one, and a staff member who stated that she saw Jackson getting out of his shower with a boy is another - just not enough evidence to secure a conviction. I know many people put a lot of stock in that, but the legal system (for a good reason) is set up so that things must be proven beyond reasonable dount, which means that even if courts and juries think someone is "probably guilty" that's not enough for a guilty verdict, the proof has to be concrete and in this case he was very careful. It means nothing regarding whether or not his conduct was questionable.

There is in fact a brief snippet in the documentary of one of the jury members who makes it pretty clear that they found it all highly suspect - but had to return a not guilty verdict due to the lack of physical evidence.

Anyway... like I said, I'd just prefer if people could make up their own mind with full reasoning after actually watching it and reading up on the trials and other statements that are available, rather than just assuming. "He wasn't convicted so that's that!" is never going to be enough for me. I guess it's OK if it is for other people but there's no real point continuing to argue that one.
Which set of blinkers are those then, I see a lot of assumptions on both sides so such comments are dismissive and patronising. A proper legal conviction is totally relevant when slurring the name and reputation of someone who can no longer defend themselves. He was one of the most famous people in the world, one of the richest and eccentric and odd. A perfect target for such mud-slinging.

Like none of the accusers could possibly have anything to gain by lying. Too many unanswered questions so assume the worse. Unless they are looking for financial recompense what is there to gain for anyone in continuing to upset his family with what amounts to little more than gossip with many having ulterior motives for keeping that ball rolling.

Without a conviction let the dead rest in peace. What if all the the doubters are actually wrong, do you ever think of that?
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