[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Disagree with you !

People are trying to say MJ abandoned kids,these kids were NOT even his own children OMG . why not question the parenting of these kids .

Plus MJ was a dad and had his own kids to look after , plus he was extremely busy working ,either performing or going on tours as well as charity work. I honestly think some of these fans expected or wanted mj to spend 24/7 with them which is NOT possible !!! .

Wade's mother kept pushing herself and wade back into MJ's life ,she kept writing him letters and kept stalking him . But they've made it seem like MJ was the one pursuing them. Like I said it's easy to twist things when facts are ignored .

Absolutely right.
Superb post.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Absolutely right.
Superb post.

I listened to an interview MJ did a few years ago where he said he visited a children's hospital, the media accused him of ignoring the children even though he took Minnie & mickey mouse there to cheer them up . He knew he couldn't win whatever he did as the media was out to get him .

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I listened to an interview MJ did a few years ago where he said he visited a children's hospital, the media accused him of ignoring the children even though he took Minnie & mickey mouse there to cheer them up . He knew he couldn't win whatever he did as the media was out to get him .

Jimmy Saville used to visit children’s hospitals...treating the kids to outings ....

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Jimmy Saville used to visit children’s hospitals...treating the kids to outings ....

Paedophiles tend to be brazen in that way, I mean Jimmy Saville actually had a show that granted kids their wishes. . .

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Paedophiles tend to be brazen in that way, I mean Jimmy Saville actually had a show that granted kids their wishes. . .

I wish people would stop comparing Saville to MJ . Saville never stood trial whereas MJ did ,plus there was evidence to prove Saville was GUILTY .

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I wish people would stop comparing Saville to MJ . Saville never stood trial whereas MJ did ,plus there was evidence to prove Saville was GUILTY .

Why not?...the similarities are there. The wealth...the gifts...the adulation and fixation with children.
You were trying to make out MJ did so much for children and those in hospitals...it does not prove he is innocent.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Why not?...the similarities are there. The wealth...the gifts...the adulation and fixation with children.
You were trying to make out MJ did so much for children and those in hospitals...it does not prove he is innocent.

No,but court of law did

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Why not?...the similarities are there. The wealth...the gifts...the adulation and fixation with children.
You were trying to make out MJ did so much for children and those in hospitals...it does not prove he is innocent.

Wowww I wasn't using his charity work to excuse anything. I simply said he stood trial and was found INNOCENT , you can't label someone a "paedophile" just because you think he's weird .

He was highly investigated for years !!! . Had negative media coverage for years !! .

Nothing like Saville!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Why not?...the similarities are there. The wealth...the gifts...the adulation and fixation with children.

You were trying to make out MJ did so much for children and those in hospitals...it does not prove he is innocent.

MO of a paedophile, just like why paedophiles choose to become priests easy access to children and at the time so powerful you weren't allowed question them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Why not?...the similarities are there. The wealth...the gifts...the adulation and fixation with children.
You were trying to make out MJ did so much for children and those in hospitals...it does not prove he is innocent.

Doesn't prove he is a pedo either.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I wish people would stop comparing Saville to MJ . Saville never stood trial whereas MJ did ,plus there was evidence to prove Saville was GUILTY .

Exactly but sadly it seems MJs trial was a total waste of time.
So you mentioning a trial means nothing unfortunately
It's seen as a non event Goldheart.

To some he waas guilty, the law shouldn't hsve bothered with investigating him and not bother with Judge or a Jury.
So much for the law.

Then he's accused of abandoning this pair.
You raised he had his family.
It was fired back at you their abuse took place before his children was born.

That's the time frame of this pairs story.

It would never be considered,.why he spent less and less time with them.
Of the possible reason his own children came along and they were what mattered righty to him then.

You are totally right too in that MJ was in fact tried and cleared.
A world away from the Saville issue.

Good luck to you Goldheart however in your reasoning.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Exactly but sadly it seems MJs trial was a total waste of time.
So you mentioning a trial means nothing unfortunately
It's seen as a non event Goldheart.

To some he waas guilty, the law shouldn't hsve bothered with investigating him and not bother with Judge or a Jury.
So much for the law.

Then he's accused of abandoning this pair.
You raised he had his family.
It was fired back at you their abuse took place before his children was born.

That's the time frame of this pairs story.

It would never be considered,.why he spent less and less time with them.
Of the possible reason his own children came along and they were what mattered righty to him then.

You are totally right too in that MJ was in fact tried and cleared.
A world away from the Saville issue.

Good luck to you Goldheart however in your reasoning.

Yeah we're all going round in circles in appears . But I will continue to stick with facts just like you & Kaz as we a know these allegations make zero sense.

Exactly why bother with a court & law if people still think "no smoke without fire" .

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I wish people would stop comparing Saville to MJ . Saville never stood trial whereas MJ did ,plus there was evidence to prove Saville was GUILTY .

BOTH paedophiles so fine to be compared

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

BOTH paedophiles so fine to be compared

You said that about Cliff Richards Chuff,he was also found not guilty,it cant be the 'laws' fault all the time surely.

[Christmas Lights]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

BOTH paedophiles so fine to be compared

ONLY Saville WAS , but once again you enjoy jumping to conclusions about MJ & Cliff despite them both being cleared and no evidence being found to incriminate them .

In this society people are damned if they do and damned if they don't