[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The other ironic thing is that the issues woman have are not about transwomen at all but about predatory men who will seek to take advantage of loopholes whether that be financial or otherwise

most people really don't care how others choose to live their lives, we are too busy with our own

Most people yes, except the homophobics, transphobics etc who always have something really negative to say about those people and base their stereotypes or fears on a few "bad" cases (ie transwomen issue in unisex toilets etc) unfortunately.
Hence education is key, and that applies to all communities really.

That's a shame really. Thankfully it's not most people, but it still hurts targeted communities, specifically when social media amplifies those phobic voices. It's a tough daily struggle.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Most people yes, except the homophobics, transphobics etc who always have something really negative to say about those people and base their stereotypes or fears on a few "bad" cases (ie transwomen issue in unisex toilets etc) unfortunately.
Hence education is key, and that applies to all communities really.

That's a shame really. Thankfully it's not most people, but it still hurts targeted communities, specifically when social media amplifies those phobic voices. It's a tough daily struggle.

I do get this point, and agree some use it that way.

I feel sometimes feminists are written off with these people though for using examples of 'obvious conclusions' that they warned of(ie abusive men who claim to be trans, NOT transpeople) as..well we said it would happen, here is an example. And another. And another. And another. After being told it would NEVER HAPPEN and that to even consider it happening was manhating.

I think theres a world of difference between 'look, here is an example of what we said, and why that example slipped through the net so to speak' and 'look, this one transperson doing this means all are transpeople are bad!!!'

Though the difference is often..ignored. And made out to be the same thing. Sometimes purposely in honesty, though not always. Not sure if am explaining that right though..

Nuance.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Most people yes, except the homophobics, transphobics etc who always have something really negative to say about those people and base their stereotypes or fears on a few "bad" cases (ie transwomen issue in unisex toilets etc) unfortunately.
Hence education is key, and that applies to all communities really.

That's a shame really. Thankfully it's not most people, but it still hurts targeted communities, specifically when social media amplifies those phobic voices. It's a tough daily struggle.

Yes it can be a struggle for many including women so don't write off our struggles, its not a competition, some straight men are struggling as well, labelling people as big terfs or whatever is not the way to end struggles, its just creates tension, animosity and more struggle