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Old 10-02-2023, 09:18 PM #1
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I've finished watching this now and it was fascinating. I think she's really become very detached and desensitised to the full horror of what ISIS did. She talks about going there as if it was a silly thing to do and describes it quite flippantly - 'we left, we went to ISIS, that was it' and stuff like that. All the bad things that happened just seen like they were a bit of an inconvenience.

The trauma she's gone through is massive - married off to a stranger at 15, all three of her kids dying, two other failed pregnancies, walking miles across the dessert when heavily pregnant, her best friends being blown up etc. And then she talked about seeing heads in bins and how that didn't faze her. She still doesn't really feel any guilt because she just said everything would have happened anyway and I think there's a lot of things she hasn't admitted. You don't stay in ISIS for four years without seeing and probably doing some pretty awful things.
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I've finished watching this now and it was fascinating. I think she's really become very detached and desensitised to the full horror of what ISIS did. She talks about going there as if it was a silly thing to do and describes it quite flippantly - 'we left, we went to ISIS, that was it' and stuff like that. All the bad things that happened just seen like they were a bit of an inconvenience.

The trauma she's gone through is massive - married off to a stranger at 15, all three of her kids dying, two other failed pregnancies, walking miles across the dessert when heavily pregnant, her best friends being blown up etc. And then she talked about seeing heads in bins and how that didn't faze her. She still doesn't really feel any guilt because she just said everything would have happened anyway and I think there's a lot of things she hasn't admitted. You don't stay in ISIS for four years without seeing and probably doing some pretty awful things.

So what is your opinion after watching ~ we don't want her back ?
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I think she doesn't really have any remorse and still doesn't understand that she did much wrong. I'm not even sure she thinks ISIS did that much wrong. That makes her very dangerous still and she'd need to be subject to a lot of monitoring and should serve some prison time here.

The only thing in her defence is that she has been through massive trauma so that would have a very lasting effect and partly explain why she comes across so emotionless. I do feel some sympathy for losing three children as well. I don't think depriving her of her citizenship and making her stateless for life was right either, I think she is the UK's responsibility even if we don't like it
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I think she doesn't really have any remorse and still doesn't understand that she did much wrong. I'm not even sure she thinks ISIS did that much wrong. That makes her very dangerous still and she'd need to be subject to a lot of monitoring and should serve some prison time here.

The only thing in her defence is that she has been through massive trauma so that would have a very lasting effect and partly explain why she comes across so emotionless. I do feel some sympathy for losing three children as well. I don't think depriving her of her citizenship and making her stateless for life was right either, I think she is the UK's responsibility even if we don't like it


I agree with this, we cant have it both ways deport those we dont want and keep citizens out we dont want, she should be here, but in prison
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I agree with this, we cant have it both ways deport those we dont want and keep citizens out we dont want, she should be here, but in prison
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Not in prison. In schools talking about her ordeal would be better.



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