[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

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Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

In what world is it okay to act like that at all, let alone when you're working in a public facing role?

Originally Posted by UserSince2005

You can’t even tell she’s trans, she looks better than most women on the street

You might be thinking of the actual woman? She doesn't identify as a woman, she uses they/them pronouns I think.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

Widespread entitlement, self-centredness and hyperindividualism are (ironically, given that these people are so often described as leftists) the inevitable outcomes of late-stage capitalism and consumerism. These mindsets didn't spring up out of thin air they were cultivated over decades ... just with some unexpected and unintended side effects.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Widespread entitlement, self-centredness and hyperindividualism are (ironically, given that these people are so often described as leftists) the inevitable outcomes of late-stage capitalism and consumerism. These mindsets didn't spring up out of thin air they were cultivated over decades ... just with some unexpected and unintended side effects.

Can't disagree there.

The way you phrased it isn't something about which I know a great deal. I can't really call my self "anti-capitalist", though I'm certainly against mass consumerism.

As you say, it is somewhat ironic that the behavior of self-proclaimed "leftists" are possibly the outcome of a free market, and that they seem incredibly pro-consumerism. The way some of them defend the latest mass-produced product excreted by Disney...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Can't disagree there.

The way you phrased it isn't something about which I know a great deal. I can't really call my self "anti-capitalist", though I'm certainly against mass consumerism.

As you say, it is somewhat ironic that the behavior of self-proclaimed "leftists" are possibly the outcome of a free market, and that they seem incredibly pro-consumerism. The way some of them defend the latest mass-produced product excreted by Disney...

The late 80's, all of the 90's and at least the first half of the 2010's was all about companies, politics, all sorts of people with vested financial interests pushing a narrative to kids and young people of;

"I am the best, I am the most important, I can be whatever I want, I can have whatever I want, I can have it all, the world is mine for the taking!"

And (cynically) that's because it was thought that those people would then be driven to productivity AND excessive spending within the consumer economy.

What they didn't expect but I think was somewhat inevitable, is that the NEXT generation (the ones who were BORN into that narrative) would have it so firmly embedded in their sense of self that they place importance on self/the individual in really extreme and often bizarre ways... and when you boil it right down... it was sparked by a late-stage capitalist idea that "self centred people will want to buy themselves more stuff".

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The late 80's, all of the 90's and at least the first half of the 2010's was all about companies, politics, all sorts of people with vested financial interests pushing a narrative to kids and young people of;

"I am the best, I am the most important, I can be whatever I want, I can have whatever I want, I can have it all, the world is mine for the taking!"

And (cynically) that's because it was thought that those people would then be driven to productivity AND excessive spending within the consumer economy.

What they didn't expect but I think was somewhat inevitable, is that the NEXT generation (the ones who were BORN into that narrative) would have it so firmly embedded in their sense of self that they place importance on self/the individual in really extreme and often bizarre ways... and when you boil it right down... it was sparked by a late-stage capitalist idea that "self centred people will want to buy themselves more stuff".

Well put. Like I said it's not something I know a lot about, and I haven't seen the argument expanded like that, only seen end stage capitalism being broadly blamed with no explanation

It used to be a joke/meme that people would write "**** capitalism" on their iPhone and their selfies would have a pile of Amazon boxes in the background, but while I've not seen anything quite as on the nose as that, I've seen things with similar levels of self-awareness.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Posie raised a good point in that a disturbing amount of adults act like their feelings should be front-and-centre, and have an incredibly entitled attitude.

In what world is it okay to act like that at all, let alone when you're working in a public facing role?


You might be thinking of the actual woman? She doesn't identify as a woman, she uses they/them pronouns I think.

t would make it easier all round for your average citizen if they made it, They/Them/It.