[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it wasn’t just, have you seen a doctor…there was also the suggestion that she talk to a priest…?…why would she talk to a priest if she’s thought to be ‘mental’…and if ‘demons’ aren't believed in then surely God would not be believed in either…God/Devil…angels/demons all go hand in hand …

…I personally would never question Elsa in terms of what she believes she sees and experiences…I know that it has no relevance in terms of what others believe but I’ve worked with too many cared for children/adopted children and know that their traumas can manifest in so many ‘unbelievable’ ways…the mind is all powerful in forming and transforming terrifying experiences into ‘forms’ that it can understand and for children, obviously demons are something they fear and understand as ‘bad’….anyways, this is just a reality show, isn’t it….and anything that I have experienced in life in terms of children with trauma isn’t relevant…there are many papers written and this is only one link if there is any further thought …. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24647210/


…what I do feel is that Elsa isn’t someone who should have been put into the BB house, this isn’t the place for this and all of her behaviour/including her strong immediate attachment to Marcus has absolutely reinforced that…I have no idea what psych evaluation BB are using but it feels to me that it’s very much broken…

There could be an argument for schizophrenia, hallucinations but also.


If she's thought to mental she can still talk to a priest or pastor I believe as they pray for them aswell as advice to seek medical support if needed.


Jenny was just condescending.



That's the thing, religiously if there's a God as some believe that means angels, demons, hell and heaven exist so if people are tolerant of things like sex changes and many other things they can also try to be less condescending in these areas. Just my thoughts lol. It looks even more hypocritical when the very same people mocking her will celebrate the concept in a few days

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

It's actually quite a phenomenon amongst religious circles. Incubus, sucubus. Even satanists believe they can see or summon demons.

You've got religion and mythology mixed up.

[Vicky.]

Jenny was correct, Elsa is either attention seeking or mentally ill

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Beso

You've got religion and mythology mixed up.

Perhaps religious people don't call it succubus or incubus but I've seen Christians pray against spirits and demons that sleep with people.

Spirit husband they call it maybe

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

In any case it would naturally scare people that are not that way inclined so I agree Elsa had to know her audience. Perhaps the best thing would have been for her to go to the diary room to ask for someone to pray with her rather than expecting them to understand lol. Wonder if Richard understands. They don't show him

[caprimint]

So glad somebody actually spoke up about her insanity instead of encouraging her, how embarrassing

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Beso

You've got religion and mythology mixed up.

Christianity acknowledges mysticism but it also tends to suggest getting as far away as possible from it. From that POV, Jenny would be understandably spooked.

In the US, traditional religion is brought in by dabblers all the time.

Catholicism in the Hispanic world more openly embraces mysticism. Thus there are a higher number of converts to a religion like Santeria, where the saints are still heavily worshipped alongside Orishas. So yes, still witchcraft.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sneak Peak from tonight's show

Elsa goes up in everyone's opinion

Spoiler:

[Beso]

If they are real the vast majority will be Catholics.

[bots]

who is the new housemate spotted in the kitchen

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

I agree with this. It was so patronising "have you seen a doctor?" Imagine any other context there would be ofcom complaints. Infact some people say the whole trans agenda is a mental illness also. Imagine if that was said to Zelah

The "Have you seen a Dr?" line is funnier than not because depending on the doctor one finds here they will embrace it entirely.

Much of the newfangled modern psych **** coming out of the US is closely tied to the explosion of woo in those fields. I have my own beliefs for sure but I can also see the serious harm it is doing to vulnerable minds.

New Age attracts the mentally unstable, that's just a given. That's why it is all over the psych field now (commercial interest), and even some practitioners. A friend who is still very fragile had an enabling therapist that claimed that him and his soon to be divorced very abusive ex wife that he was clinging to were actually mega soulmates. And blamed things like energy lines being drawn between them and it being physically impossible for him to detach. They were also bringing up past lives and other psychic input during therapy and yes that is something that is often happening in psych but I have never seen it discouraged. And why would patents discourage therapy that affirms they are actually quite special? How many now proclaim they are "empaths" and use it to describe to describe their own psych?

It is about customer satisfaction and the commercial aspects muddy it here as having a medical carousel of therapy and drugs is not only profitable but almost treated like a replacement for religion for some people. So because belief systems can be so easily filtered through these therapy methods, it's an excellent way for anyone to use that to push an agenda.

So I am not surprised we are at the point that someone like Elsa walk the Earth with either no pushback or self-awareness. I like Elsa all said and done, but she is not saying anything I don't hear in the US. Her beliefs are more mainstream than not.

[Gusto Brunt]

I think I only watched about 20 minutes of last night's show.

The rest I fast forwarded.

The Demon/ghosts thing was so boring.

I don't believe in ghosts anyway.