[vesavius]

..While Tejah holds court voicing her opinions on the other group to her select crowd, influencing nominations..

What is the actual difference between her and Sam etc?

Past self superiority and a lack of self awareness, I mean?

[ebandit]

...............in last nights HL's there was so much talk about nominations/talk that could influence another HM's choice of whom to nominate..

Mark L

[MTVN]

Teja was calling out the bullies, very righteous of her

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Teja was calling out the bullies, very righteous of her

She was literally trying to get the all the others to turn on a small group of three and negatively imaging those three to poison the others against them.

I don't even like Sam etc but it was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

I kind of hate big groups picking out smaller ones for character assassination. Felt very mean girls.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by vesavius

She was literally trying to get the all the others to turn on a small group of three and negatively imaging those three to poison the others against them.

I don't even like Sam etc but it was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

I kind of hate big groups picking out smaller ones for character assassination. Felt very mean girls.

You must be having a laugh, Teja was just making sure everyone's eyes were fully open to the real mean girls and everyone agreed so that speaks for itself

Teja probably the most perceptive one in there actually despite being the youngest

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

She was literally trying to get the all the others to turn on a small group of three and negatively imaging those three to poison the others against them.

I don't even like Sam etc but it was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

I kind of hate big groups picking out smaller ones for character assassination. Felt very mean girls.

…from the conversation in livefeed yesterday, I would say that from inside the house and looking in on…it’s not really a ‘small group situation’ and that became really clear yesterday for me when Caroline herself said…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/part of a conversation which reveals Ed to be very aware of the power weights of the house…I think that’s a realisation that Teja and others are now beginning to fully realise…

[Ammi]

…we are more powerful than we’ve ever been……those are Caroline’s own words and those words aren't speaking for herself only and that she’s bought some power in immunity for two weeks and the save and replace ‘power’…she’s clearly speaking as a ‘we’ in terms of making reference to a power group…

[Beso]

Zelah needs to tell Cameron it was Sam who started the story about him going from group to group to set the record straight and also to take the blame away from Caroline. And Elsa needs kicked out for allowing it to sway her vote.

[caprimint]

I cannot stand Teja and her ****ing miss know it all attitude

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…from the conversation in livefeed yesterday, I would say that from inside the house and looking in on…it’s not really a ‘small group situation’ and that became really clear yesterday for me when Caroline herself said…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/part of a conversation which reveals Ed to be very aware of the power weights of the house…I think that’s a realisation that Teja and others are now beginning to fully realise…

I think that 'I feel powerful' or whatever quote has probably been taken out of context and is being used to do a lot of heavy lifting. Have you got a clip of it or something so we can see it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I think that 'I feel powerful' or whatever quote has probably been taken out of context and is being used to do a lot of heavy lifting. Have you got a clip of it or something so we can see it?

…it was in the livefeed vid yesterday from Yazzfetto…let me find the vid then I’ll have to try to find the placement of the ‘scene’……there was some reference to it on the live show last night also /…I can’t recall which part of it they showed, though…it wasn’t the whole conversation but I don’t know if it showed the bit I’m recalling….

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You must be having a laugh, Teja was just making sure everyone's eyes were fully open to the real mean girls and everyone agreed so that speaks for itself

So, her attempting to brigade the rest of the house against a small group of three is her being righteous and good and not being a mean girl? Hrm, not sure on that take.

Can someone explain to me all the power that you all seem to think Sam's little group have? The power to bully and control the entire house, I mean? I just cannot see it.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it was in the livefeed vid yesterday from Yazzfetto…let me find the vid then I’ll have to try to find the placement of the ‘scene’……there was some reference to it on the live show last night also /…I can’t recall which part of it they showed, though…it wasn’t the whole conversation but I don’t know if it showed the bit I’m recalling….

I didn't see anything in the HL show that justifies how much it is being overworked though.

I would love to see it in it's entirety. Thanks

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I didn't see anything in the HL show that justifies how much it is being overworked though.

I would love to see it in it's entirety. Thanks

…the part I’m referring to is around 4:20-4:30 if you want to tune in there but obviously for full context, watch from the beginning…?…I have to say that I didn’t go on to listen to other conversation with other housemate because I got distracted…(…as always…)…what it indicates to me though is that Caroline isn’t speaking for herself as an individual/she is speaking as part of a group and she isn’t seeing that as a small group, she’s feeling the power that her group has within the house…and that I’m thinking is what Teja is seeing and was referring to…say what you see/type thing…

Youtube video

[Ammi]

…Caroline also showed the power of voice/sound and volume when she screamed….’more wine please…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’….…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…the part I’m referring to is around 4:20-4:30 if you want to tune in there but obviously for full context, watch from the beginning…?…I have to say that I didn’t go on to listen to other conversation with other housemate because I got distracted…(…as always…)…what it indicates to me though is that Caroline isn’t speaking for herself as an individual/she is speaking as part of a group and she isn’t seeing that as a small group, she’s feeling the power that her group has within the house…and that I’m thinking is what Teja is seeing and was referring to…say what you see/type thing…

Youtube video

Thanks for taking the time to find that, I appreciate it.

"... Me and Nancy were on the last ebb of our life.. We were sat down together outside ostracised, no one wanted to know us, then by a little tiny chance things changed and now we are more powerful than we have ever been."

So she is comparing her position now to being on zero, which I don't think is the same as her claiming that they have all the power in that house.

She goes on to talk about it being because the clique that ruled the house has been broken up (Fey was the glue there, clearly) and that there aren't any cliques right now, that the big one was dismantled by 'us not even doing anything'.

I don't think she is crowing about their overpowering strength over the house in this clip, I think that she is saying that her and Nancy now have a fighting chance because the big clique that was dictating things has gone and that they have come back from the edge.

TBH, I see zero problems with anything she says here.

IMO, what Tejah is trying to do is rebuild that old clique again and put Caroline and Nancy on the outside again.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Thanks for taking the time to find that, I appreciate it.

"... Me and Nancy were on the last ebb of our life.. We were sat down together outside ostracised, no one wanted to know us, then by a little tiny chance things changed and now we are more powerful than we have ever been."

So she is comparing her position now to being on zero, which I don't think is the same as her claiming that they have all the power in that house.

She goes on to talk about it being because the clique that ruled the house has been broken up (Fey was the glue there, clearly) and that there aren't any cliques right now, that the big one was dismantled by 'us not even doing anything'.

I don't think she is crowing about their overpowering strength over the house in this clip, I think that she is saying that her and Nancy now have a fighting chance because the big clique that was dictating things has gone and that they have come back from the edge.

TBH, I see zero problems with anything she says here.

IMO, what Tejah is trying to do is rebuild that old clique again and put Caroline and Nancy on the outside again.

…yeah, I appreciate that there was conversation before her power group claims…but those feel as though they were referencing from earlier times in the house/they’re not referring to the here and now and whichever housemates being referred to, I would say arent all there now anyway…Fey, being the obvious one…part of her ‘story’ is past tense and obviously just her perspective and part is present tense…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/…which really …(…by Caroline’s own words and thoughts …)…isn’t feeling a small group with any vulnerabilities etc…but a group of much power …whereas, for me…Teja was speaking from a position of that vulnerability of the awareness of a ‘group power’ in the house…and speculating whether there was any nominating/voting awareness happening…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, I appreciate that there was conversation before her power group claims…but those feel as though they were referencing from earlier times in the house/they’re not referring to the here and now and whichever housemates being referred to, I would say arent all there now anyway…Fey, being the obvious one…part of her ‘story’ is past tense and obviously just her perspective and part is present tense…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/…which really …(…by Caroline’s own words and thoughts …)…isn’t feeling a small group with any vulnerabilities etc…but a group of much power …whereas, for me…Teja was speaking from a position of that vulnerability of the awareness of a ‘group power’ in the house…and speculating whether there was any nominating/voting awareness happening…

Well, if you was part of a big safe powerful clique (under Chairman Fey) and all of a sudden that is gone and scattered, you would def feeling vulnerable so I do agree Tejah is feeling that.

Which is why she is desperately trying to rebuild it by othering that small group of three (really just two... Carol and Nancy) once more by trying to unify the house against and on pushing Carol and Nancy out again.

It's not that they Carol and Nancy have more power than her, it's just that she feels threatened by them having any power at all.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Well, if you was part of a big safe powerful clique (under Chairman Fey) and all of a sudden that is gone and scattered, you would def feeling vulnerable so I do agree Tejah is feeling that.

Which is why she is desperately trying to rebuild it by othering that small group of three (really just two... Carol and Nancy) once more by trying to unify the house against and on pushing Carol and Nancy out again.

It's not that they Carol and Nancy have more power than her, it's just that she feels threatened by them having any power at all.

…well Caroline feels that her group is powerful because she said so……I honestly don’t personally think that Teja ever felt safety or power or any similar thing with Fey, I feel as a very young lady…she looked up to her possibly as someone she felt could relate to in terms of views/mindsets….so I feel that any loss of Fey would have been and felt more on a personal level…and maybe an older sister type vibe…/…which also seems to be how she views Elsa so I think that was a ‘stepping into’ role as well that Elsa has assumed…I think that Teja’s words/conversation was one of genuine concern that there may be a ‘voting clique’ …a possible ‘power’ that she definitely needed to voice…

…anyway I’m going to just leave that there because I’m exhausted with thinking about BB stuff…and I so hate it when we argue…(..not that we are arguing, that was just a quip…)…you have a great afternoon and stay cool…..

[Ammi]

…actually Big V, I went to quickly post today’s Sneak Peek in the thread and it’s strangely the bit we’re talking about……I do agree with Teja and her own perception of Caroline/Richard in that Caroline is seeing Richard more as an anti Christ and it has to the point now when it’s just become very mean in her behaviour toward him…giving you the very first sneak peek at the sneak peek…ciao, ciao…

Youtube video

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…well Caroline feels that her group is powerful because she said so……I honestly don’t personally think that Teja ever felt safety or power or any similar thing with Fey, I feel as a very young lady…she looked up to her possibly as someone she felt could relate to in terms of views/mindsets….so I feel that any loss of Fey would have been and felt more on a personal level…and maybe an older sister type vibe…/…which also seems to be how she views Elsa so I think that was a ‘stepping into’ role as well that Elsa has assumed…I think that Teja’s words/conversation was one of genuine concern that there may be a ‘voting clique’ …a possible ‘power’ that she definitely needed to voice…

…anyway I’m going to just leave that there because I’m exhausted with thinking about BB stuff…and I so hate it when we argue…(..not that we are arguing, that was just a quip…)…you have a great afternoon and stay cool…..

"more powerful than ever before" when she preceded that by saying that she had zero power before.

Def not arguing here, sorry if I made you feel that way that wasn't the intention. I just enjoy chatting about the show

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…actually Big V, I went to quickly post today’s Sneak Peek in the thread and it’s strangely the bit we’re talking about……I do agree with Teja and her own perception of Caroline/Richard in that Caroline is seeing Richard more as an anti Christ and it has to the point now when it’s just become very mean in her behaviour toward him…giving you the very first sneak peek at the sneak peek…ciao, ciao…

Youtube video

See, I don't disagree that Carol can be mean, I am just not willing to see everything that she does as that. I think I am more charitable towards her than most here though even if I don't actually like her much.

I think Tejah has a very skewed perception of it all and i think she is further twisting it in order to rally the other against the 'little group'.

She want's the safety of her big clique back and she thinks she can get that by putting Carol and Nancy on the outside again and using them as a rallying point if she demonises them enough.

It's all very nasty playground politics stuff, tbh.

I know Carol can be mean, but this is Tejah being mean.