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Originally Posted by vesavius

She was literally trying to get the all the others to turn on a small group of three and negatively imaging those three to poison the others against them.

I don't even like Sam etc but it was a bit uncomfortable to watch.

I kind of hate big groups picking out smaller ones for character assassination. Felt very mean girls.

…from the conversation in livefeed yesterday, I would say that from inside the house and looking in on…it’s not really a ‘small group situation’ and that became really clear yesterday for me when Caroline herself said…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/part of a conversation which reveals Ed to be very aware of the power weights of the house…I think that’s a realisation that Teja and others are now beginning to fully realise…

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…we are more powerful than we’ve ever been……those are Caroline’s own words and those words aren't speaking for herself only and that she’s bought some power in immunity for two weeks and the save and replace ‘power’…she’s clearly speaking as a ‘we’ in terms of making reference to a power group…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…from the conversation in livefeed yesterday, I would say that from inside the house and looking in on…it’s not really a ‘small group situation’ and that became really clear yesterday for me when Caroline herself said…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/part of a conversation which reveals Ed to be very aware of the power weights of the house…I think that’s a realisation that Teja and others are now beginning to fully realise…

I think that 'I feel powerful' or whatever quote has probably been taken out of context and is being used to do a lot of heavy lifting. Have you got a clip of it or something so we can see it?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I think that 'I feel powerful' or whatever quote has probably been taken out of context and is being used to do a lot of heavy lifting. Have you got a clip of it or something so we can see it?

…it was in the livefeed vid yesterday from Yazzfetto…let me find the vid then I’ll have to try to find the placement of the ‘scene’……there was some reference to it on the live show last night also /…I can’t recall which part of it they showed, though…it wasn’t the whole conversation but I don’t know if it showed the bit I’m recalling….

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it was in the livefeed vid yesterday from Yazzfetto…let me find the vid then I’ll have to try to find the placement of the ‘scene’……there was some reference to it on the live show last night also /…I can’t recall which part of it they showed, though…it wasn’t the whole conversation but I don’t know if it showed the bit I’m recalling….

I didn't see anything in the HL show that justifies how much it is being overworked though.

I would love to see it in it's entirety. Thanks

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I didn't see anything in the HL show that justifies how much it is being overworked though.

I would love to see it in it's entirety. Thanks

…the part I’m referring to is around 4:20-4:30 if you want to tune in there but obviously for full context, watch from the beginning…?…I have to say that I didn’t go on to listen to other conversation with other housemate because I got distracted…(…as always…)…what it indicates to me though is that Caroline isn’t speaking for herself as an individual/she is speaking as part of a group and she isn’t seeing that as a small group, she’s feeling the power that her group has within the house…and that I’m thinking is what Teja is seeing and was referring to…say what you see/type thing…

Youtube video

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…Caroline also showed the power of voice/sound and volume when she screamed….’more wine please…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’….…

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…the part I’m referring to is around 4:20-4:30 if you want to tune in there but obviously for full context, watch from the beginning…?…I have to say that I didn’t go on to listen to other conversation with other housemate because I got distracted…(…as always…)…what it indicates to me though is that Caroline isn’t speaking for herself as an individual/she is speaking as part of a group and she isn’t seeing that as a small group, she’s feeling the power that her group has within the house…and that I’m thinking is what Teja is seeing and was referring to…say what you see/type thing…

Youtube video

Thanks for taking the time to find that, I appreciate it.

"... Me and Nancy were on the last ebb of our life.. We were sat down together outside ostracised, no one wanted to know us, then by a little tiny chance things changed and now we are more powerful than we have ever been."

So she is comparing her position now to being on zero, which I don't think is the same as her claiming that they have all the power in that house.

She goes on to talk about it being because the clique that ruled the house has been broken up (Fey was the glue there, clearly) and that there aren't any cliques right now, that the big one was dismantled by 'us not even doing anything'.

I don't think she is crowing about their overpowering strength over the house in this clip, I think that she is saying that her and Nancy now have a fighting chance because the big clique that was dictating things has gone and that they have come back from the edge.

TBH, I see zero problems with anything she says here.

IMO, what Tejah is trying to do is rebuild that old clique again and put Caroline and Nancy on the outside again.

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Originally Posted by vesavius

Thanks for taking the time to find that, I appreciate it.

"... Me and Nancy were on the last ebb of our life.. We were sat down together outside ostracised, no one wanted to know us, then by a little tiny chance things changed and now we are more powerful than we have ever been."

So she is comparing her position now to being on zero, which I don't think is the same as her claiming that they have all the power in that house.

She goes on to talk about it being because the clique that ruled the house has been broken up (Fey was the glue there, clearly) and that there aren't any cliques right now, that the big one was dismantled by 'us not even doing anything'.

I don't think she is crowing about their overpowering strength over the house in this clip, I think that she is saying that her and Nancy now have a fighting chance because the big clique that was dictating things has gone and that they have come back from the edge.

TBH, I see zero problems with anything she says here.

IMO, what Tejah is trying to do is rebuild that old clique again and put Caroline and Nancy on the outside again.

…yeah, I appreciate that there was conversation before her power group claims…but those feel as though they were referencing from earlier times in the house/they’re not referring to the here and now and whichever housemates being referred to, I would say arent all there now anyway…Fey, being the obvious one…part of her ‘story’ is past tense and obviously just her perspective and part is present tense…’we are more powerful than we’ve ever been…’…/…which really …(…by Caroline’s own words and thoughts …)…isn’t feeling a small group with any vulnerabilities etc…but a group of much power …whereas, for me…Teja was speaking from a position of that vulnerability of the awareness of a ‘group power’ in the house…and speculating whether there was any nominating/voting awareness happening…