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It's ridiculous scare tactics, A lot of people migrate to other countries yes but for this to happen there'd have to be a mass exodus of white people. I didn't take this seriously at all, it's a silly article. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he was a daily mail reader
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It's ridiculous scare tactics, A lot of people migrate to other countries yes but for this to happen there'd have to be a mass exodus of white people. I didn't take this seriously at all, it's a silly article. I wouldn't be surprised to find out he was a daily mail reader
I think it's simply a hypothetical prediction of the exponential birthrate of immigrants who, in the view of the author, tend to have larger families than that of white Britons. At the end of the day it's simply the opinion of one "expert" - but trying to squash the views of concerned white Britons by accusing them of racism for daring to want to debate this issue is counterproductive, since it only fosters suspicion and resentment. Far better to debate it openly and seriously with all parties.

One point I would make is that, in my experience, it isn't only white Britons who are concerned about the burgeoning population and rapidly changing face of Britain, but Britons from all ethnicities, especially those who are second and third generation immigrants who have been here for decades. Are they racist also for voicing their concern?
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I think it's simply a hypothetical prediction of the exponential birthrate of immigrants who, in the view of the author, tend to have larger families than that of white Britons. At the end of the day it's simply the opinion of one "expert" - but trying to squash the views of concerned white Britons by accusing them of racism for daring to want to debate this issue is counterproductive, since it only fosters suspicion and resentment. Far better to debate it openly and seriously with all parties.

One point I would make is that, in my experience, it isn't only white Britons who are concerned about the burgeoning population and rapidly changing face of Britain, but Britons from all ethnicities, especially those who are second and third generation immigrants who have been here for decades. Are they racist also for voicing their concern?
When pray do tell did I call him racist? Instead of attacking me on points that don't exist try and argue what's there...if you can.

I jusst think it's ridiculous and unlikely unless there was a mass Exodus or white people suddenly became infertile. Unless the families that are immigrating here are about the same ammount as the population of Luxembourg I can't see it happening . There'd need to be some sort of event to kickstart it really, it's not something that would occur naturally in that short amount of time.
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When pray do tell did I call him racist? Instead of attacking me on points that don't exist try and argue what's there...if you can.

I jusst think it's ridiculous and unlikely unless there was a mass Exodus or white people suddenly became infertile. Unless the families that are immigrating here are about the same ammount as the population of Luxembourg I can't see it happening . There'd need to be some sort of event to kickstart it really, it's not something that would occur naturally in that short amount of time.

I didn't actually say that YOU were accusing anyone of racism - I was actually pointing out that the views expressed in the article were merely those of one so called "expert". I absolutely agree that there is a degree of scaremongering going on, but the point I was making is that by surpressing legitimate debate by pooh poohing people's concerns is counterproductive - far better to just allow people to voice their concerns and put them straight with actual facts and figures.

Even if it were the case that white Britons WILL be a minority in this country in 50 odd years, the fact is that in the article, the intervening half century of change, adaptation and assimilation that would have to take place, has largely been disregarded as if it were irrelevant.
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I didn't actually say that YOU were accusing anyone of racism - I was actually pointing out that the views expressed in the article were merely those of one so called "expert". I absolutely agree that there is a degree of scaremongering going on, but the point I was making is that by surpressing legitimate debate by pooh poohing people's concerns is counterproductive - far better to just allow people to voice their concerns and put them straight with actual facts and figures.

Even if it were the case that white Britons WILL be a minority in this country in 50 odd years, the fact is that in the article, the intervening half century of change, adaptation and assimilation that would have to take place, has largely been disregarded as if it were irrelevant.
Oh okay, I getcha, sorry for taking a sarky tone.

I just don't think it can happen over such a short amount of time naturally, I think EVENTUALLY we'll have a more balanced ratio of races in the UK due to interracial relationships and such which is far from a bad thing. I can't see a change happening in 50 years though, it's too short for a natural change to occur.
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