[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

Yes i personally dont do history at school however they teach other topics
which are probably far more relevant than the title of someone that has married into a royal family, its not like they can cover all world history in the 13 years your at school.

You think history lessons are not valuable. If so, it's a very blinkered life.

As for 13 years at school - they can certainly cover the basics - past and present. Funnily enough: I had 13 years of schooling too: and I learned what you think they can't cover these days, as well as cooking, sewing, even some woodwork as well as secretarial, classical - blah blah blah.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

You think history lessons are not valuable. If so, it's a very blinkered life.

As for 13 years at school - they can certainly cover the basics - past and present. Funnily enough: I had 13 years of schooling too: and I learned what you think they can't cover these days, as well as cooking, sewing, even some woodwork as well as secretarial, classical - blah blah blah.

I didn't say they weren't valuable I said in history they teach other things like the world wars. Not it as a subject itself.

It really depends on the subject choices people take. For example it may be that standards have dropped just because people aren't taking the difficult subjects. In my case i'm not the same and the majority of british teens so i don't really know enough to wonder why.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

I didn't say they weren't valuable I said in history they teach other things like the world wars. Not it as a subject itself.

It really depends on the subject choices people take. For example it may be that standards have dropped just because people aren't taking the difficult subjects. In my case i'm not the same and the majority of british teens so i don't really know enough to wonder why.

There has only been 2 World Wars, am I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that it was only 'touched upon' - and not gone into any depth.

Subject choices kick in at Secondary School. What about the other 50% of teaching that goes on prior to that. I was certainly taught history when I was about 8 or 9 - going back to Medieval times: how landowners became landowners, what tithes were, right up to local historical knowledge (and given that I studied in Scotland, England, Cyprus and Saudi Arabia - that applied to every school I attended). It wasn't just by chance that I was at a 'good' school.

[CharlieO]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

There has only been 2 World Wars, am I think I'm fairly safe in assuming that it was only 'touched upon' - and not gone into any depth.

Subject choices kick in at Secondary School. What about the other 50% of teaching that goes on prior to that. I was certainly taught history when I was about 8 or 9 - going back to Medieval times: how landowners became landowners, what tithes were, right up to local historical knowledge (and given that I studied in Scotland, England, Cyprus and Saudi Arabia - that applied to every school I attended). It wasn't just by chance that I was at a 'good' school.

Well i dont really know as im not an exam board or a history teacher but i do know they have to cover topics in depth. But i do agree with what you've previously said about people not wanting to do well or pushing themselves. im certainly not like that but i do know people who just seem to not care.

But im at quite a good school so what i think is bad would probably be nothing compared to a lot of teens in the uk.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by CharlieOsborne

Well i dont really know as im not an exam board or a history teacher but i do know they have to cover topics in depth. But i do agree with what you've previously said about people not wanting to do well or pushing themselves. im certainly not like that but i do know people who just seem to not care.

But im at quite a good school so what i think is bad would probably be nothing compared to a lot of teens in the uk.

You don't have to be a teacher or on an exam board though to have some basic overall knowledge of various aspects of history.

I'm not sure why or where much of the UK Educational system has gone wrong, but it's certainly not churning out many that the nation want to be proud of (note: that's my opinion, not a statement of fact!).

I agree with you Charlie, that there appears to be a tremendous amount of folk who simply 'don't care' and don't want to care either.

That said, there are a few Tibbers that really impress me with their knowledge and intellect on a variety of subjects - and some have astounded me learning of their 'young' ages: so it's not all bad!

Overall though: I don't see that being the norm.