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Old 03-08-2011, 10:04 AM #11
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Just listen to yourself. Are you suggesting that homosexuals are the only people in the world who have multiple partners? Or have heterosexual couples not had multiple partners?
No. You said that. You made this 'get it straight' sounding post like you were tired of fooling around. You came on with this 'get to reality check' tone.
But what did you do?
You then pretended I had made a post somehow saying that only homosexuals had multiple-partners.
I said NOTHING like that.

So why are you using a 'drop the BS' tone and then go for that kind of sneaky manipulation, false attribute, subject-changing gaming?

What I did was tell you there are serious studies showing an astonishing promiscuity among homosexuals.
This is not my 'opinion'. this is studies like this:

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Prior to the AIDS epidemic, a 1978 study found that 75 percent of white, gay males claimed to have had more than 100 lifetime male sex partners: 15 percent claimed 100-249 sex partners; 17 percent claimed 250-499; 15 percent claimed 500- 999; and 28 percent claimed more than 1,000 lifetime male sex partners. Levels of promiscuity subsequently declined, but some observers are concerned that promiscuity is again approaching the levels of the 1970s.
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an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners
Did you notice neither of these studies were trying to tell you 'Heterosexuals NEVER have ANY promiscuity'?
Did you notice that there is no logical implication of this?
Since you are making 'Drop the Nonsense' posts I want you to see this clearly.

Now this does militate against the idea that gays are simply a 'parallel' to heterosexuals (in the sense of long-term relationships such as marriage).

Again, since you are interested in 'get off the BS' straight-talking facts here is an interesting study:
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The 2003-2004 Gay/Lesbian Consumer Online Census surveyed the lifestyles of 7,862 homosexuals. Of those involved in a "current relationship," only 15 percent describe their current relationship as having lasted twelve years or longer, with five percent lasting more than twenty years.[4] While this "snapshot in time" is not an absolute predictor of the length of homosexual relationships, it does indicate that few homosexual relationships achieve the longevity common in marriages.
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· The Dutch study of partnered homosexuals, which was published in the journal AIDS, found that men with a steady partner had an average of eight sexual partners per year

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· In The Male Couple, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison reported that, in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting from one to thirty-seven years:

Only seven couples have a totally exclusive sexual relationship, and these men all have been together for less than five years. Stated another way, all couples with a relationship lasting more than five years have incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity in their relationships
So these are studies that would suggest 'gay marriage' is not some kind of 'parallel' (in meaning, in monogamy, in numbers of 'affairs, in lenght of terms etc).
So what?
Why do you say this is an 'irrational fear' of homosexuals to report these studies?
Since you need to make 'clear the air' and 'get to the reality' point I would like you to lay down step-by-step hard logic showing how this is 'homophobic' (whatever that means)?

Feel free to lay down the harsh reality anytime. Try to do this while addressing the actual topic and not 'what other people do'.
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