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Simple is better and this way Aaron doesn't need to worry about the others sticking to their agreement.
But your method doesn't address the £15k (£14.5k for Pyramids sake!) Jay said Aaron could have, does it?
 
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Am I missing something here?! What business is it of mine or anyone else what the hell the HMs do or don't do with the money. I couldn't give a rat's behind what they do and I would not think any the less of any of them TBH if they all just decided to hang on to what they've got. At least Aaron won his fair and square, the rest of the money was down to a lucky dip not to winning the money on merit. Though perhaps Alex could shove a few quid Tom's way seeing as how he was her best friend in the house

I'm sick and tired of people bleating on and on about it. I guarantee that if Jay had won, the Anti Aaron brigade would not be whining about it at all.
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But your method doesn't address the £15k (£14.5k for Pyramids sake!) Jay said Aaron could have, does it?
Oh when he switched the names on the board?
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A couple of posts up, I'd already addressed the £500 figures, this was just a quick run through of the process required.
i know but you know what the forum is like - and as you said, it needs to be spelled out.... but correctly and accurately.

The laughable thing is - about all of us here - we're all arguing about something that none of us know about , we don't know what the Aaron/Jay are doing, we don't know exactly how the 5 way split is actually being split.....

It's been done to deal - and all based on thing we don't know.

Besides which, Aaron won the money fair and square. It upto him to do with it what he wants - but I'd like to think that if he splits it with Jay, that both he and Jay will announce that Aaron has given the said Charity the cheque - on Jay's behalf.

Now THAT would be simple!
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But your method doesn't address the £15k (£14.5k for Pyramids sake!) Jay said Aaron could have, does it?
Actually....it is £9500 after the 5 way split... And it's Aaron's because Jay said Aaron could have it, that Jay didn't want it.

Sorry sorry!!

See what I mean though... how it all gets far too involved.
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Actually....it is £9500 after the 5 way split... And it's Aaron's because Jay said Aaron could have it, that Jay didn't want it.

Sorry sorry!!

See what I mean though... how it all gets far too involved.
No don't see what you mean. Jay made a statement when he was pissed off and Aaron was not in the room. Shaking a man's hand and agreeing to split the money are totally different things. If you can't tell the difference you need help. By the way to play along with your line of thinking then BB should just donate the money to charity because Aaron said he did not want the money he just wanted to win.
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The laughable thing is - about all of us here - we're all arguing about something that none of us know about , we don't know what the Aaron/Jay are doing, we don't know exactly how the 5 way split is actually being split.....

It's been done to deal - and all based on thing we don't know.

Besides which, Aaron won the money fair and square. It upto him to do with it what he wants - but I'd like to think that if he splits it with Jay, that both he and Jay will announce that Aaron has given the said Charity the cheque - on Jay's behalf.

Now THAT would be simple!
You should definitely read this a couple times. You post more inaccurate information on here than any FM. (maybe more than all combined)
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You should definitely read this a couple times. You post more inaccurate information on here than any FM. (maybe more than all combined)

did you come on here just to personally throw insults around, to attack me? if so, please take it off the board - my pm box accepts messages. This thread is to discuss the housemates, it's not here to be rude and insult other members. Thanks

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Looks like Jay has mentioned it in a radio interview with Express FM I think, Jay's retweeted:

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You tube clip of @Aaronspoppets & @RealJayMcKray agreeing to split the winnings b4 winner announced! Jay is gonna donate his 25k to charity!

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Just interviewed @cliffe1 @RealJayMcKray from Big Bro - great couple - a house real deal - & Jay told us Aaron still hasn't shared the cash

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Right replies to the Big Brother cash-gate have been overwhelming..what I'll do is clip up the audio..and you guys can listen for yourselves

EDIT - Link to audio from the interview http://audioboo.fm/boos/548451-big-b...nners-cash-pot
A bit premature tbh spouting ones mouth off on radio programmes, when everything is being sorted. Nothing short of manipulation, Rome wasnt built in a day.
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A bit premature tbh spouting ones mouth off on radio programmes, when everything is being sorted. Nothing short of manipulation, Rome wasnt built in a day.
yes, Jay is all nice one minute, then gobbing off lies the next, then trying to tweet his way out of the hole he digs.

It is exactly the behaviour he displayed in the house -and so it continues now he is out.
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No don't see what you mean. Jay made a statement when he was pissed off and Aaron was not in the room. Shaking a man's hand and agreeing to split the money are totally different things. If you can't tell the difference you need help. By the way to play along with your line of thinking then BB should just donate the money to charity because Aaron said he did not want the money he just wanted to win.
Aaron made the agreement for the £30/20 split when he was drunk. Jay said Aaron could have his money because Jay didn't want it at all.

Being in a bad mood does not escape your responsibilities. If Jay is asking people to watch their agreement on YT, then he also needs to remember that he promised £15k to Aaron in front of a million people.

Aaron did just want to win, but he didn't say "if I win, then person x" can have the money. The by product of Aaron winning was the prize money, not the other way around.
 
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Aaron made the agreement for the £30/20 split when he was drunk. Jay said Aaron could have his money because Jay didn't want it at all.

Being in a bad mood does not escape your responsibilities. If Jay is asking people to watch their agreement on YT, then he also needs to remember that he promised £15k to Aaron in front of a million people.

Aaron did just want to win, but he didn't say "if I win, then person x" can have the money. The by product of Aaron winning was the prize money, not the other way around.
They didn't agree on that though, he swapped the names and Aaron later swapped them back, further reinforcing the fact that they hadn't agreed on the deal - Justsayin'
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Aaron made the agreement for the £30/20 split when he was drunk. Jay said Aaron could have his money because Jay didn't want it at all.

Being in a bad mood does not escape your responsibilities. If Jay is asking people to watch their agreement on YT, then he also needs to remember that he promised £15k to Aaron in front of a million people.

Aaron did just want to win, but he didn't say "if I win, then person x" can have the money. The by product of Aaron winning was the prize money, not the other way around.
If it is regarded that Aaron was drunk, that is concluded as being not in control of his actions or thoughts then and therefore, the agreement in nul and void. Now, I'll play fair here and apply this same logic therefore to when Jay said Aaron could have his money - since Jay had been drinking that night. Let's say Jay was drunk, same rules apply.

So it's back to the Winner Take All re the £50k, with the other £50k being split as the 5 winners agreed upon.
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i know but you know what the forum is like - and as you said, it needs to be spelled out.... but correctly and accurately.

The laughable thing is - about all of us here - we're all arguing about something that none of us know about , we don't know what the Aaron/Jay are doing, we don't know exactly how the 5 way split is actually being split.....

It's been done to deal - and all based on thing we don't know.

Besides which, Aaron won the money fair and square. It upto him to do with it what he wants - but I'd like to think that if he splits it with Jay, that both he and Jay will announce that Aaron has given the said Charity the cheque - on Jay's behalf.

Now THAT would be simple!
Good idea re the charity, things will be sorted in good time, I cant believe that anyone would still want to make trouble when none of them have the money (I believe). All speculation and we only saw a bit of that clip, what else was said? If Jay thought that Aaron thought he wouldnt win, then why did he suggest it, remember Aaron only said that had Harry and him won they would split the money, this was when the winnings were 100k. Jay took the converstaion up from there. The fact that he said 30/20 showed that Jay thought he was going to win, he wasnt forced into suggesting the figures.
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They didn't agree on that though, he swapped the names and Aaron later swapped them back, further reinforcing the fact that they hadn't agreed on the deal - Justsayin'
It doesn't really matter though, does it? Jay said Aaron could have it as he didn't want it. There is no deal to be made. If I say "Niamh, I don't want my car, you can have it", then we don't have to shake hands on it. I just drop the car round to yours, give you the paperwork and Keys, and you've got yourself a car. No deal is ever made in this instance.

For the record, I don't know where I would need to drop the car, and it's definitely not me in the parked car across the road with the binoculars and long mac.
 
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If it is regarded that Aaron was drunk, that is concluded as being not in control of his actions or thoughts then and therefore, the agreement in nul and void. Now, I'll play fair here and apply this same logic therefore to when Jay said Aaron could have his money - since Jay had been drinking that night. Let's say Jay was drunk, same rules apply.

So it's back to the Winner Take All re the £50k, with the other £50k being split as the 5 winners agreed upon.
I thought Jay did the switch during the following day? However, I think your reasoning is sound. Split the £50k, winner gets the other £50k.

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It doesn't really matter though, does it? Jay said Aaron could have it as he didn't want it. There is no deal to be made. If I say "Niamh, I don't want my car, you can have it", then we don't have to shake hands on it. I just drop the car round to yours, give you the paperwork and Keys, and you've got yourself a car. No deal is ever made in this instance.

For the record, I don't know where I would need to drop the car, and it's definitely not me in the parked car across the road with the binoculars and long mac.
True but If I said "No, Mr. H Christ I don't want your car" (which is what Aaron effectively did by swapping the names back to their original place then the offer is voided...........imo
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Aaron came up with the idea to split it because he obviously thought Jay was going to win. Jay being Jay and not giving a **** over the money clearly agreed.

Aaron should and imo will keep his word. All his fans saying Jay should get stuffed would be crying themselves to sleep if it was vice versa right now lol.
We have to remember all the Aaron bashers who said that if they were the other 4 they wouldnt give Aaron a penny, what goes round comes around. All this speculation when things are yet to be sorted.
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Good idea re the charity, things will be sorted in good time, I cant believe that anyone would still want to make trouble when none of them have the money (I believe). .
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It doesn't really matter though, does it? Jay said Aaron could have it as he didn't want it. There is no deal to be made. If I say "Niamh, I don't want my car, you can have it", then we don't have to shake hands on it. I just drop the car round to yours, give you the paperwork and Keys, and you've got yourself a car. No deal is ever made in this instance.

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Everyone lives another day.
Jay and his mother have stirred trouble up though, both my means of her interview with her local rag, the NorthernChronicle or summit...and him by way of his remarks on the radio interview. That's why all hell is breaking loose!!

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Nope: Aaron changed it back after Jay I think had gone to bed having had his rant. (though happy to take that back if that wasn't the case, but am 99% sure it was)
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Aaron made the agreement for the £30/20 split when he was drunk. Jay said Aaron could have his money because Jay didn't want it at all.

Being in a bad mood does not escape your responsibilities. If Jay is asking people to watch their agreement on YT, then he also needs to remember that he promised £15k to Aaron in front of a million people.

Aaron did just want to win, but he didn't say "if I win, then person x" can have the money. The by product of Aaron winning was the prize money, not the other way around.
How do you know he was drunk? I find it unlikely considering it took place a couple of hours before the final
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Was it? I have all my timings off kilter then. I thought it was late on the Thurs night/Fri morning?

If I'm wrong about that, then I'm wrong. Hands up.
 
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Fair point...about them being drunk.... Aaron's having a mug of tea here..... here's the vid which is Day 64.



Now.... listen carefully to what Aaron says ... Harry and I agreed to split.....but that was when it was £100k. JAY was the one who jumped right on this the second Aaron said this. Jay goes on about it several times, he didn't miss the opportunity and Jay clearly says 20/30. (Coz I truly believe Jay thought he was going to win). He also refers to "If we come 3rd or 4th, it's £15?? each...not quite getting what he means there though?)

You see Aaron hesitate, and see the expression on his face......

Sorry... this again was highly manipulated by Jay - for his own benefit.

I know you won't agree, I don't expect you to, but that's my view.

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Was it? I have all my timings off kilter then. I thought it was late on the Thurs night/Fri morning?

If I'm wrong about that, then I'm wrong. Hands up.
Well it was the last video uploaded to FB before all the best bits one and like Pyramid says below it says Day 64 so I guess it was final night

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Fair point...about them being drunk.... Aaron's having a mug of tea here..... here's the vid which is Day 64.



Now.... listen carefully to what Aaron says ... Harry and I agreed to split.....but that was when it was £100k. JAY was the one who jumped right on this the second Aaron said this. Jay goes on about it several times, he didn't miss the opportunity and Jay clearly says 20/30. (Coz I truly believe Jay thought he was going to win). He also refers to "If we come 3rd or 4th, it's £15?? each...not quite getting what he means there though?)

You see Aaron hesitate, and see the expression on his face......

Sorry... this again was highly manipulated by Jay - for his own benefit.

I know you won't agree, I don't expect you to, but that's my view.
Well Aaron starts off the discussion about splitting the money and then Jay just takes up the conversation and says he'd be happy to do that and Aaron nods along. You could say he was looking hesitant there but he looked pretty sure when Jay went to clarify saying "shall we do that then?" and Aaron gives a confident "yep" and shakes his hand

If Jay thought he was going to win why would he offer the deal to split the money in the first place? And I think he was saying that if it was 1st/4th they could do 35/15 or something but I'm not really sure myself
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